PROBLEM GETTING SCOPE TO MOVE


Todd Gross <toddg@...>
 

Okay, I ran into a problem..

I have no problem with the mike (if I speak up) or the running of Digital
Sky Voice, but once hooked up to the scope, nothing happened. (scope did
not move, program functioned as if it had) I suspect the cable. I tried
both COM1 and COM2 settings in HARDWARE PREFERENCES.

The cable I used as serial, but was called "Mouse extention cable" Is it
possible the pins were reversed
(as a further illustration, I had to unscrew the little bolts (studs?) on
either side of the mail connector, because it was expecting to be "screwed
into".. which is why I'm suspecting that that may have been the culprit..
but I had thought it would work, so I am confused)



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howard lazarus <lazhow@...>
 

Hi Todd;
Once had the same problem. First of all are you presetting your scope, that
is, are you polar or two star aligning prior to utilizing the program????
Two, I too had to remove the side studs from the connector. Three, are you
plug in( all connections made) and program on when you are setting up. If you
use the keypad to align, the program, should be on and then just hit link
totelescope.I use the keypad for aligning and never rely on the program for
aligning.
So program must be on...set using keupad ..then hit link to telescope and go
to any program on the program. I always go to a star to check centering of the
scope.
Your pins are not reversed, I believe this is a bug in the program that we
must brought to Charles for correction.I hope I was of some little help, but
the same thing also happened to me..
Very best
Howard L

Todd Gross wrote:

Okay, I ran into a problem..

I have no problem with the mike (if I speak up) or the running of Digital
Sky Voice, but once hooked up to the scope, nothing happened. (scope did
not move, program functioned as if it had) I suspect the cable. I tried
both COM1 and COM2 settings in HARDWARE PREFERENCES.

The cable I used as serial, but was called "Mouse extention cable" Is it
possible the pins were reversed
(as a further illustration, I had to unscrew the little bolts (studs?) on
either side of the mail connector, because it was expecting to be "screwed
into".. which is why I'm suspecting that that may have been the culprit..
but I had thought it would work, so I am confused)

thanks!
-Todd

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Todd Gross <toddg@...>
 

what is Charle's email? I did do all of the things you mentioned below to
no avail.
Are you SURE you had to be aligned through the keypad first?

Anyone else try it yet?



At 08:56 AM 6/16/99 -0400, howard lazarus wrote:
Hi Todd;
Once had the same problem. First of all are you presetting your scope, that
is, are you polar or two star aligning prior to utilizing the program????
Two, I too had to remove the side studs from the connector. Three, are you
plug in( all connections made) and program on when you are setting up. If you
use the keypad to align, the program, should be on and then just hit link
totelescope.I use the keypad for aligning and never rely on the program for
aligning.
So program must be on...set using keupad ..then hit link to telescope and go
to any program on the program. I always go to a star to check centering of
the
scope.
Your pins are not reversed, I believe this is a bug in the program that we
must brought to Charles for correction.I hope I was of some little help, but
the same thing also happened to me..
Very best
Howard L

Todd Gross wrote:

Okay, I ran into a problem..

I have no problem with the mike (if I speak up) or the running of Digital
Sky Voice, but once hooked up to the scope, nothing happened. (scope did
not move, program functioned as if it had) I suspect the cable. I tried
both COM1 and COM2 settings in HARDWARE PREFERENCES.

The cable I used as serial, but was called "Mouse extention cable" Is it
possible the pins were reversed
(as a further illustration, I had to unscrew the little bolts (studs?) on
either side of the mail connector, because it was expecting to be "screwed
into".. which is why I'm suspecting that that may have been the culprit..
but I had thought it would work, so I am confused)

thanks!
-Todd

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Todd Gross <toddg@...>
 

Hi Howard and everyone!!

Well, I did some checking, and this "extention" cable does appear to be the
right animal. Christine
suggested that perhaps my computer wasn't allowing the serial port to be
active or something, as it was expecting a mouse, and suggested I order a
serial port on an PCMIA card, which I did. At least that way, I'll know
which serial port is which when I plug it in. I'm supposed to receive that
in the mail tomorrow or Friday.

I find it very curious though, that they went with female DB9 connectors
that require a male input, because in checking .. even with CABLES TO GO..
that means one HAS TO unscrew the lugs?

Has anyone else tried this w/o having to unscrew the lugs?

Just an update of where I stand

1. I did everything right, but can't get the scope to slew via the software
even though it states
"OBJECT ACK-QUIRED"


At 08:56 AM 6/16/99 -0400, howard lazarus wrote:
Hi Todd;
Once had the same problem. First of all are you presetting your scope, that
is, are you polar or two star aligning prior to utilizing the program????
Two, I too had to remove the side studs from the connector. Three, are you
plug in( all connections made) and program on when you are setting up. If you
use the keypad to align, the program, should be on and then just hit link
totelescope.I use the keypad for aligning and never rely on the program for
aligning.
So program must be on...set using keupad ..then hit link to telescope and go
to any program on the program. I always go to a star to check centering of
the
scope.
Your pins are not reversed, I believe this is a bug in the program that we
must brought to Charles for correction.I hope I was of some little help, but
the same thing also happened to me..
Very best
Howard L

Todd Gross wrote:

Okay, I ran into a problem..

I have no problem with the mike (if I speak up) or the running of Digital
Sky Voice, but once hooked up to the scope, nothing happened. (scope did
not move, program functioned as if it had) I suspect the cable. I tried
both COM1 and COM2 settings in HARDWARE PREFERENCES.

The cable I used as serial, but was called "Mouse extention cable" Is it
possible the pins were reversed
(as a further illustration, I had to unscrew the little bolts (studs?) on
either side of the mail connector, because it was expecting to be "screwed
into".. which is why I'm suspecting that that may have been the culprit..
but I had thought it would work, so I am confused)

thanks!
-Todd

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RCK <rkuberek@...>
 

No, I had to unscrew the lugs and it all worked fine.

Bob K.


Todd Gross wrote:

Hi Howard and everyone!!

Well, I did some checking, and this "extention" cable does appear to be the
right animal. Christine
suggested that perhaps my computer wasn't allowing the serial port to be
active or something, as it was expecting a mouse, and suggested I order a
serial port on an PCMIA card, which I did. At least that way, I'll know
which serial port is which when I plug it in. I'm supposed to receive that
in the mail tomorrow or Friday.

I find it very curious though, that they went with female DB9 connectors
that require a male input, because in checking .. even with CABLES TO GO..
that means one HAS TO unscrew the lugs?

Has anyone else tried this w/o having to unscrew the lugs?

Just an update of where I stand

1. I did everything right, but can't get the scope to slew via the software
even though it states
"OBJECT ACK-QUIRED"

At 08:56 AM 6/16/99 -0400, howard lazarus wrote:
Hi Todd;
Once had the same problem. First of all are you presetting your scope, that
is, are you polar or two star aligning prior to utilizing the program????
Two, I too had to remove the side studs from the connector. Three, are you
plug in( all connections made) and program on when you are setting up. If you
use the keypad to align, the program, should be on and then just hit link
totelescope.I use the keypad for aligning and never rely on the program for
aligning.
So program must be on...set using keupad ..then hit link to telescope and go
to any program on the program. I always go to a star to check centering of
the
scope.
Your pins are not reversed, I believe this is a bug in the program that we
must brought to Charles for correction.I hope I was of some little help, but
the same thing also happened to me..
Very best
Howard L

Todd Gross wrote:

Okay, I ran into a problem..

I have no problem with the mike (if I speak up) or the running of Digital
Sky Voice, but once hooked up to the scope, nothing happened. (scope did
not move, program functioned as if it had) I suspect the cable. I tried
both COM1 and COM2 settings in HARDWARE PREFERENCES.

The cable I used as serial, but was called "Mouse extention cable" Is it
possible the pins were reversed
(as a further illustration, I had to unscrew the little bolts (studs?) on
either side of the mail connector, because it was expecting to be "screwed
into".. which is why I'm suspecting that that may have been the culprit..
but I had thought it would work, so I am confused)

thanks!
-Todd

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RCK <rkuberek@...>
 

Todd,

One other thing you have probably already thought of. To test your cable
and port, you might want to see if you can run a different serial device
on that (other than the mouse, for which you should have a special mouse
port anyway). On my machine I have a conflict on the port and can only
run one serial device at a time. This means that I can run my HP/PC or,
the AP mount, but not both. Previously, I had a situation where the PCMCIA
modem was using the port and had to be turned off from the Windows Control
Panel prior to using ANY other serial device.

Bob K.


Todd Gross wrote:

Hi Howard and everyone!!

Well, I did some checking, and this "extention" cable does appear to be the
right animal. Christine
suggested that perhaps my computer wasn't allowing the serial port to be
active or something, as it was expecting a mouse, and suggested I order a
serial port on an PCMIA card, which I did. At least that way, I'll know
which serial port is which when I plug it in. I'm supposed to receive that
in the mail tomorrow or Friday.

I find it very curious though, that they went with female DB9 connectors
that require a male input, because in checking .. even with CABLES TO GO..
that means one HAS TO unscrew the lugs?

Has anyone else tried this w/o having to unscrew the lugs?

Just an update of where I stand

1. I did everything right, but can't get the scope to slew via the software
even though it states
"OBJECT ACK-QUIRED"

At 08:56 AM 6/16/99 -0400, howard lazarus wrote:
Hi Todd;
Once had the same problem. First of all are you presetting your scope, that
is, are you polar or two star aligning prior to utilizing the program????
Two, I too had to remove the side studs from the connector. Three, are you
plug in( all connections made) and program on when you are setting up. If you
use the keypad to align, the program, should be on and then just hit link
totelescope.I use the keypad for aligning and never rely on the program for
aligning.
So program must be on...set using keupad ..then hit link to telescope and go
to any program on the program. I always go to a star to check centering of
the
scope.
Your pins are not reversed, I believe this is a bug in the program that we
must brought to Charles for correction.I hope I was of some little help, but
the same thing also happened to me..
Very best
Howard L

Todd Gross wrote:

Okay, I ran into a problem..

I have no problem with the mike (if I speak up) or the running of Digital
Sky Voice, but once hooked up to the scope, nothing happened. (scope did
not move, program functioned as if it had) I suspect the cable. I tried
both COM1 and COM2 settings in HARDWARE PREFERENCES.

The cable I used as serial, but was called "Mouse extention cable" Is it
possible the pins were reversed
(as a further illustration, I had to unscrew the little bolts (studs?) on
either side of the mail connector, because it was expecting to be "screwed
into".. which is why I'm suspecting that that may have been the culprit..
but I had thought it would work, so I am confused)

thanks!
-Todd

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Todd Gross <toddg@...>
 

Anyone out there other than Howard that has tried this thing?

I got it running, my laptop was set to COM4 !!!!!!!!!!!


It's cloudy, so I don't know how well it works.. but it definitely works,
voice and all

At 08:56 AM 6/16/99 -0400, howard lazarus wrote:
Hi Todd;
Once had the same problem. First of all are you presetting your scope, that
is, are you polar or two star aligning prior to utilizing the program????
Two, I too had to remove the side studs from the connector. Three, are you
plug in( all connections made) and program on when you are setting up. If you
use the keypad to align, the program, should be on and then just hit link
totelescope.I use the keypad for aligning and never rely on the program for
aligning.
So program must be on...set using keupad ..then hit link to telescope and go
to any program on the program. I always go to a star to check centering of
the
scope.
Your pins are not reversed, I believe this is a bug in the program that we
must brought to Charles for correction.I hope I was of some little help, but
the same thing also happened to me..
Very best
Howard L

Todd Gross wrote:

Okay, I ran into a problem..

I have no problem with the mike (if I speak up) or the running of Digital
Sky Voice, but once hooked up to the scope, nothing happened. (scope did
not move, program functioned as if it had) I suspect the cable. I tried
both COM1 and COM2 settings in HARDWARE PREFERENCES.

The cable I used as serial, but was called "Mouse extention cable" Is it
possible the pins were reversed
(as a further illustration, I had to unscrew the little bolts (studs?) on
either side of the mail connector, because it was expecting to be "screwed
into".. which is why I'm suspecting that that may have been the culprit..
but I had thought it would work, so I am confused)

thanks!
-Todd

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howard lazarus <lazhow@...>
 

Hi Todd;
It is a very nice concept but I find that the difficulty in it's use is one of
setup. The mike alone without the computer screen within sight is a difficult task
until one learns the program front and back. Also without the screen nearby on
does not know the suggested objects that the program will yield unless one just
wishes to say "next" AND THEN WHATEVER COMES UP IS THE OBJECT TO BE VIEWED. The
fun part of the program is the IDENTIFY....however, at times I doubted it's
accuracy.
Also I added external speakers to my laptop(cost about $20.00) for with all the
noise from the outside the laptop speakers were just not loud enough...another
setup problem.
For me and just speaking for me the right setup is one of a semi permenent
nature..that is having a pier which you know I do use and setting up the computer
some 15 feet away yet still within a reasonable sight range and using the mike
under those type of conditions.
The truth of the matter is I now use the program to get and setup on hard copy a
observing program for the evening and use exclusively the keypad which BTW I
really enjoy the best.
Glad you did get the program working as I know you would...enjoy...stay well
Regards
Howard L
Todd Gross wrote:

Anyone out there other than Howard that has tried this thing?

I got it running, my laptop was set to COM4 !!!!!!!!!!!

It's cloudy, so I don't know how well it works.. but it definitely works,
voice and all

At 08:56 AM 6/16/99 -0400, howard lazarus wrote:
Hi Todd;
Once had the same problem. First of all are you presetting your scope, that
is, are you polar or two star aligning prior to utilizing the program????
Two, I too had to remove the side studs from the connector. Three, are you
plug in( all connections made) and program on when you are setting up. If you
use the keypad to align, the program, should be on and then just hit link
totelescope.I use the keypad for aligning and never rely on the program for
aligning.
So program must be on...set using keupad ..then hit link to telescope and go
to any program on the program. I always go to a star to check centering of
the
scope.
Your pins are not reversed, I believe this is a bug in the program that we
must brought to Charles for correction.I hope I was of some little help, but
the same thing also happened to me..
Very best
Howard L

Todd Gross wrote:

Okay, I ran into a problem..

I have no problem with the mike (if I speak up) or the running of Digital
Sky Voice, but once hooked up to the scope, nothing happened. (scope did
not move, program functioned as if it had) I suspect the cable. I tried
both COM1 and COM2 settings in HARDWARE PREFERENCES.

The cable I used as serial, but was called "Mouse extention cable" Is it
possible the pins were reversed
(as a further illustration, I had to unscrew the little bolts (studs?) on
either side of the mail connector, because it was expecting to be "screwed
into".. which is why I'm suspecting that that may have been the culprit..
but I had thought it would work, so I am confused)

thanks!
-Todd

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