Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights


Roland Christen
 

oops, I see you have VP02-08 already.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

So a couple of things would be good to know:

1) the serial number of the mount
2) the direction of the oscillation (most likely RA I'm guessing)

You can send this to my e-mail direct and we can go from there: chris1011@...
I'll be leaving for Christmas eve dinner in a few minutes, and tomorrow we are not here, but I will get back to you first thing Monday. We'll get it sorted out. Probably a simple setting and also you may want to load the latest version P02-08 into the CP5.

Roland Christen
Astro-Physics Inc.



-----Original Message-----
From: deonb <deonb@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 7:10 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 08:20 AM, Roland Christen wrote:
Well, posting to CN won't fix things. If the poster contacts us, we can patch into his controller, see what version of software he has and the settings, and actually watch it do the tracking. I don't understand why people post problems on CN without first contacting the manufacturer.
I'm the dope who originally posted this on CN :). I wasn't specifically posting it as a problem. It was more like a "hey cool, this mount can track for 10 minutes at 2800mm without guiding!", and "here's what I did" post. I loaded more counterweights than the specs of the mount originally so I didn't think there was anything to fix.

I do now... 

It seems that there is a some positions that if I slew my mount there, it goes into an infinite "oscillation" mode. I can physically see the scope move back-and-forth a few millimeters about once a second, and it will keep doing that even if I stop tracking completely. It stops though if I park the mount in that position.

I'm running directly through the ASCOM driver v5.30.10 connecting via USB. (I'm still learning APCC). 

The mount firmware is VCP5-P02-08. The encoder firmware is A02-08.

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


deonb
 

Thanks Roland,

I sent the mount info in email.

The direction of oscillation is RA.


Don Anderson
 

Wow! Just setting it up must have been quite a chore. I suppose you have to wash dishes for a week after taking this picture.
Merry Christmas to you and Marg and the rest of the crew at AP.
Regards

Don Anderson


On Thursday, December 24, 2020, 05:04:19 p.m. MST, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Well, I couldn't resist. Here's a pix of the setup with the caveat of WHAT NOT TO DO!

It's a 155EDF on top of a 160EDF, each has CCD cameras and Quad TCC hand grenades. The two scopes weigh ... I don't really know. The goodie bag on the end of the counterweight shaft holds another 10lb weight because I ran out of shaft length. Total cwt = 3x 14lb plus 5x 10lb plus 1x 5lb. (yes it tracks and slews just fine, but a bit boingy if you bang on it).
I set this up to test the QuadTCC with the 155EDF scope for a customer request, but didn't want to disturb my 160 setup which I am using for a winter imaging project.

Do Not try this at home upon pain of death from Marj!!! (my death mostly) Disappointed

Rolando






-----Original Message-----
From: chris1011@...
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Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 1:33 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

Marj has forbidden me from taking a pix of this setup! Upon pain of death and worse. Flushed

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Marcelo Figueroa via groups.io <marfig1970@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 12:32 PM, Roland Christen wrote:
Right now I have my Mach2 loaded with two 6" refractors, one on top the other, and all the heavy camera gear and counterweights galore, which is in the no-no zone. Just to make sure that these kinds of loads work in a stable and accurate manner (and because I like to do crazy stuff)  Stuck out tongue closed eyes

We want a picture of that! :D

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Roland Christen
 

Ok, we'll get back to you and take a look at your mount.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: deonb <deonb@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

Thanks Roland,

I sent the mount info in email.

The direction of oscillation is RA.

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


 

Roland sets up something similar during the indoor final testing phase for each Mach2GTO. It is a bit of a chore, but has deepened his understanding of this mount.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Anderson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 11:45 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

 

Wow! Just setting it up must have been quite a chore. I suppose you have to wash dishes for a week after taking this picture.

Merry Christmas to you and Marg and the rest of the crew at AP.

Regards

 

Don Anderson

 

 

On Thursday, December 24, 2020, 05:04:19 p.m. MST, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:

 

 

Well, I couldn't resist. Here's a pix of the setup with the caveat of WHAT NOT TO DO!

 

It's a 155EDF on top of a 160EDF, each has CCD cameras and Quad TCC hand grenades. The two scopes weigh ... I don't really know. The goodie bag on the end of the counterweight shaft holds another 10lb weight because I ran out of shaft length. Total cwt = 3x 14lb plus 5x 10lb plus 1x 5lb. (yes it tracks and slews just fine, but a bit boingy if you bang on it).
I set this up to test the QuadTCC with the 155EDF scope for a customer request, but didn't want to disturb my 160 setup which I am using for a winter imaging project.

 

Do Not try this at home upon pain of death from Marj!!! (my death mostly) Disappointed

 

Rolando

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: chris1011@...
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 1:33 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

Marj has forbidden me from taking a pix of this setup! Upon pain of death and worse. Flushed

 

Rolando

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcelo Figueroa via groups.io <marfig1970@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 12:32 PM, Roland Christen wrote:

Right now I have my Mach2 loaded with two 6" refractors, one on top the other, and all the heavy camera gear and counterweights galore, which is in the no-no zone. Just to make sure that these kinds of loads work in a stable and accurate manner (and because I like to do crazy stuff)  Stuck out tongue closed eyes


We want a picture of that! :D


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


deonb
 

Not sure whether or not I should post the resolution back here, but Roland was able to help me out, and it works great now without any oscillation.


Ray Gralak
 

Not sure whether or not I should post the resolution back here, but Roland was able to help me out, and it works great
now without any oscillation.
That's great to hear!

BTW, it would be nice to also post on CN that the issue has been resolved.

-Ray Gralak
Author of PEMPro
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of deonb
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 2:29 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

Not sure whether or not I should post the resolution back here, but Roland was able to help me out, and it works great
now without any oscillation.