Deep Helix


Roland Christen
 

Here is another deep sky image taken at our remote observatory in Chile by our Howard Hedlund and Dave Jurasevich duo:

https://astrob.in/xkso06/0/

Rolando

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christian viladrich
 

Amazing !!

Christian

Le 30/03/2022 à 15:29, Roland Christen via groups.io a écrit :
Here is another deep sky image taken at our remote observatory in Chile by our Howard Hedlund and Dave Jurasevich duo:


Rolando

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Erkaslan Aygen
 

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 05:26 PM, christian viladrich wrote:

Amazing !!

Christian

Le 30/03/2022 à 15:29, Roland Christen via groups.io a écrit :
Here is another deep sky image taken at our remote observatory in Chile by our Howard Hedlund and Dave Jurasevich duo:
 
 
Rolando

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 Just amazing, very well done. A masterpiece !!!!


Geoff Smith
 

Lost for words at this incredible picture.
Geoff


Mike Stephens
 

Hi there Rolondo - I would love to see any pics of ur observatory in Chile. rgds & tnx, Mike

PS- Nice Shot. Way to go Howard and Dave! 


Roland Christen
 

Here ya go: http://lascampanasremote.org/observatory/

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Stephens <mikestephens-milkeycorp@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2022 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

Hi there Rolondo - I would love to see any pics of ur observatory in Chile. rgds & tnx, Mike

PS- Nice Shot. Way to go Howard and Dave! 

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Mike Stephens
 

Thank you Rolondo - I can only imagine how crazy good the weather & skies are at Las Capmanas.
Is there a specific reason u use Win 7 on ur Primary Computer?
congrats & tnx agn, Mike


Donald Brannan
 

Beautiful!

On Mar 30, 2022, at 10:29 AM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:

Here is another deep sky image taken at our remote observatory in Chile by our Howard Hedlund and Dave Jurasevich duo:


Rolando

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Roland Christen
 

I did not install the Windows computer - left that up to another person. The system was installed about 9 years ago, but still going strong. The only thing wrong now is a layer of dust on the front corrector of the 12" Mak. It has never been cleaned. The mount has had no maintenance either. If it wasn't for Covid, I would probably have traveled down there for some upgrades to the software and general maintenance.

Skies down there are very good and very transparent. Seeing is sub-arc sec most of the time.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Stephens <mikestephens-milkeycorp@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2022 6:54 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

Thank you Rolondo - I can only imagine how crazy good the weather & skies are at Las Capmanas.
Is there a specific reason u use Win 7 on ur Primary Computer?
congrats & tnx agn, Mike

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Howard Ritter
 

The remote scope is mouth-watering, Roland! Thanks for posting the link.

It seems to me that the cost of constructing such a large and robust building in that remote and forbidding place, laying the electricals to it, equipping it with the support electronics, and so on, must outweigh the cost of the the current scope it houses by a factor of several. Or 10. If you don’t mind an indelicate and intrusive question: After committing whatever level of funding to the cause, why stop at 12”? Why not go 10% higher and double the aperture, twice the bang for only a little more buck? That place looks like it wants the 24” PlaneWave on an el Capitan that you showed at NEAF!

—howard

On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:45 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Stephens <mikestephens-milkeycorp@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2022 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

Hi there Rolondo - I would love to see any pics of ur observatory in Chile. rgds & tnx, Mike

PS- Nice Shot. Way to go Howard and Dave! 

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Roland Christen
 

The facility was built by the Carnegie foundation and sat idle for a while. We were invited to put a scope up at one end of the building. For us it was a good opportunity to set up a remote observatory so we could test out our systems and software in actual use. As far as the scope, there's nothing more rugged than a Mak-Cass. No moving mirrors, no flexing of the optical path, mirrors totally enclosed so the coatings don't degrade. It eliminates a lot of variables when you want to develop control software for remote operation.

The building has a second 1600 mount with a 300mm Takahashi RC that is used in several research projects. It is also being readied for a third scope of 20" aperture, again for research.

We have a number of other mount installations around the world with 20" RCs that are doing professional work (not taking pretty pictures). We have learned a lot about what works and what to avoid, and this is our primary purpose. Taking pretty pictures is just the icing on the cake.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Ritter via groups.io <howard.ritter@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2022 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

The remote scope is mouth-watering, Roland! Thanks for posting the link.

It seems to me that the cost of constructing such a large and robust building in that remote and forbidding place, laying the electricals to it, equipping it with the support electronics, and so on, must outweigh the cost of the the current scope it houses by a factor of several. Or 10. If you don’t mind an indelicate and intrusive question: After committing whatever level of funding to the cause, why stop at 12”? Why not go 10% higher and double the aperture, twice the bang for only a little more buck? That place looks like it wants the 24” PlaneWave on an el Capitan that you showed at NEAF!

—howard

On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:45 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Stephens <mikestephens-milkeycorp@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2022 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

Hi there Rolondo - I would love to see any pics of ur observatory in Chile. rgds & tnx, Mike

PS- Nice Shot. Way to go Howard and Dave! 

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


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Astro-Physics


Jeff B
 

And a tasty icing too.  

Thanks for posting them!

Jeff

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 11:29 AM Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
The facility was built by the Carnegie foundation and sat idle for a while. We were invited to put a scope up at one end of the building. For us it was a good opportunity to set up a remote observatory so we could test out our systems and software in actual use. As far as the scope, there's nothing more rugged than a Mak-Cass. No moving mirrors, no flexing of the optical path, mirrors totally enclosed so the coatings don't degrade. It eliminates a lot of variables when you want to develop control software for remote operation.

The building has a second 1600 mount with a 300mm Takahashi RC that is used in several research projects. It is also being readied for a third scope of 20" aperture, again for research.

We have a number of other mount installations around the world with 20" RCs that are doing professional work (not taking pretty pictures). We have learned a lot about what works and what to avoid, and this is our primary purpose. Taking pretty pictures is just the icing on the cake.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Ritter via groups.io <howard.ritter=mac.com@groups.io>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2022 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

The remote scope is mouth-watering, Roland! Thanks for posting the link.

It seems to me that the cost of constructing such a large and robust building in that remote and forbidding place, laying the electricals to it, equipping it with the support electronics, and so on, must outweigh the cost of the the current scope it houses by a factor of several. Or 10. If you don’t mind an indelicate and intrusive question: After committing whatever level of funding to the cause, why stop at 12”? Why not go 10% higher and double the aperture, twice the bang for only a little more buck? That place looks like it wants the 24” PlaneWave on an el Capitan that you showed at NEAF!

—howard

On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:45 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Stephens <mikestephens-milkeycorp@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2022 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

Hi there Rolondo - I would love to see any pics of ur observatory in Chile. rgds & tnx, Mike

PS- Nice Shot. Way to go Howard and Dave! 

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Howard Ritter
 

That’s very interesting, Roland, and thanks for the additional background.

Do you ever sell time on the Mak to remote imagers?

—howard

On Mar 31, 2022, at 11:29 AM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:

The facility was built by the Carnegie foundation and sat idle for a while. We were invited to put a scope up at one end of the building. For us it was a good opportunity to set up a remote observatory so we could test out our systems and software in actual use. As far as the scope, there's nothing more rugged than a Mak-Cass. No moving mirrors, no flexing of the optical path, mirrors totally enclosed so the coatings don't degrade. It eliminates a lot of variables when you want to develop control software for remote operation.

The building has a second 1600 mount with a 300mm Takahashi RC that is used in several research projects. It is also being readied for a third scope of 20" aperture, again for research.

We have a number of other mount installations around the world with 20" RCs that are doing professional work (not taking pretty pictures). We have learned a lot about what works and what to avoid, and this is our primary purpose. Taking pretty pictures is just the icing on the cake.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Ritter via groups.io <howard.ritter@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2022 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

The remote scope is mouth-watering, Roland! Thanks for posting the link.

It seems to me that the cost of constructing such a large and robust building in that remote and forbidding place, laying the electricals to it, equipping it with the support electronics, and so on, must outweigh the cost of the the current scope it houses by a factor of several. Or 10. If you don’t mind an indelicate and intrusive question: After committing whatever level of funding to the cause, why stop at 12”? Why not go 10% higher and double the aperture, twice the bang for only a little more buck? That place looks like it wants the 24” PlaneWave on an el Capitan that you showed at NEAF!

—howard

On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:45 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Stephens <mikestephens-milkeycorp@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2022 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

Hi there Rolondo - I would love to see any pics of ur observatory in Chile. rgds & tnx, Mike

PS- Nice Shot. Way to go Howard and Dave! 

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Roland Christen
 

Do we sell time? No, it's not ours to sell. The installation including the scopes and mounts belong to Carnegie and they allocate time to various groups for research and training. We get time on the scope. We donated the scope, FLI donated the camera with electronic focuser and I believe the filter set (10 filters) was also donated.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Ritter via groups.io <howard.ritter@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Mar 31, 2022 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

That’s very interesting, Roland, and thanks for the additional background.

Do you ever sell time on the Mak to remote imagers?

—howard

On Mar 31, 2022, at 11:29 AM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:

The facility was built by the Carnegie foundation and sat idle for a while. We were invited to put a scope up at one end of the building. For us it was a good opportunity to set up a remote observatory so we could test out our systems and software in actual use. As far as the scope, there's nothing more rugged than a Mak-Cass. No moving mirrors, no flexing of the optical path, mirrors totally enclosed so the coatings don't degrade. It eliminates a lot of variables when you want to develop control software for remote operation.

The building has a second 1600 mount with a 300mm Takahashi RC that is used in several research projects. It is also being readied for a third scope of 20" aperture, again for research.

We have a number of other mount installations around the world with 20" RCs that are doing professional work (not taking pretty pictures). We have learned a lot about what works and what to avoid, and this is our primary purpose. Taking pretty pictures is just the icing on the cake.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Ritter via groups.io <howard.ritter@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2022 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

The remote scope is mouth-watering, Roland! Thanks for posting the link.

It seems to me that the cost of constructing such a large and robust building in that remote and forbidding place, laying the electricals to it, equipping it with the support electronics, and so on, must outweigh the cost of the the current scope it houses by a factor of several. Or 10. If you don’t mind an indelicate and intrusive question: After committing whatever level of funding to the cause, why stop at 12”? Why not go 10% higher and double the aperture, twice the bang for only a little more buck? That place looks like it wants the 24” PlaneWave on an el Capitan that you showed at NEAF!

—howard

On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:45 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Stephens <mikestephens-milkeycorp@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2022 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

Hi there Rolondo - I would love to see any pics of ur observatory in Chile. rgds & tnx, Mike

PS- Nice Shot. Way to go Howard and Dave! 

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Jeff B
 

Very generous of you all Roland.

Well done sir.

Jeff

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 5:34 PM Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Do we sell time? No, it's not ours to sell. The installation including the scopes and mounts belong to Carnegie and they allocate time to various groups for research and training. We get time on the scope. We donated the scope, FLI donated the camera with electronic focuser and I believe the filter set (10 filters) was also donated.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Ritter via groups.io <howard.ritter=mac.com@groups.io>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Mar 31, 2022 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

That’s very interesting, Roland, and thanks for the additional background.

Do you ever sell time on the Mak to remote imagers?

—howard

On Mar 31, 2022, at 11:29 AM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:

The facility was built by the Carnegie foundation and sat idle for a while. We were invited to put a scope up at one end of the building. For us it was a good opportunity to set up a remote observatory so we could test out our systems and software in actual use. As far as the scope, there's nothing more rugged than a Mak-Cass. No moving mirrors, no flexing of the optical path, mirrors totally enclosed so the coatings don't degrade. It eliminates a lot of variables when you want to develop control software for remote operation.

The building has a second 1600 mount with a 300mm Takahashi RC that is used in several research projects. It is also being readied for a third scope of 20" aperture, again for research.

We have a number of other mount installations around the world with 20" RCs that are doing professional work (not taking pretty pictures). We have learned a lot about what works and what to avoid, and this is our primary purpose. Taking pretty pictures is just the icing on the cake.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Ritter via groups.io <howard.ritter@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2022 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

The remote scope is mouth-watering, Roland! Thanks for posting the link.

It seems to me that the cost of constructing such a large and robust building in that remote and forbidding place, laying the electricals to it, equipping it with the support electronics, and so on, must outweigh the cost of the the current scope it houses by a factor of several. Or 10. If you don’t mind an indelicate and intrusive question: After committing whatever level of funding to the cause, why stop at 12”? Why not go 10% higher and double the aperture, twice the bang for only a little more buck? That place looks like it wants the 24” PlaneWave on an el Capitan that you showed at NEAF!

—howard

On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:45 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Stephens <mikestephens-milkeycorp@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2022 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

Hi there Rolondo - I would love to see any pics of ur observatory in Chile. rgds & tnx, Mike

PS- Nice Shot. Way to go Howard and Dave! 

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Howard Ritter
 

That’s very generous of you, Roland, and a fine contribution to the whole community.

—howard

On Mar 31, 2022, at 5:34 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:

Do we sell time? No, it's not ours to sell. The installation including the scopes and mounts belong to Carnegie and they allocate time to various groups for research and training. We get time on the scope. We donated the scope, FLI donated the camera with electronic focuser and I believe the filter set (10 filters) was also donated.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Ritter via groups.io <howard.ritter@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Mar 31, 2022 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

That’s very interesting, Roland, and thanks for the additional background.

Do you ever sell time on the Mak to remote imagers?

—howard

On Mar 31, 2022, at 11:29 AM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:

The facility was built by the Carnegie foundation and sat idle for a while. We were invited to put a scope up at one end of the building. For us it was a good opportunity to set up a remote observatory so we could test out our systems and software in actual use. As far as the scope, there's nothing more rugged than a Mak-Cass. No moving mirrors, no flexing of the optical path, mirrors totally enclosed so the coatings don't degrade. It eliminates a lot of variables when you want to develop control software for remote operation.

The building has a second 1600 mount with a 300mm Takahashi RC that is used in several research projects. It is also being readied for a third scope of 20" aperture, again for research.

We have a number of other mount installations around the world with 20" RCs that are doing professional work (not taking pretty pictures). We have learned a lot about what works and what to avoid, and this is our primary purpose. Taking pretty pictures is just the icing on the cake.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Ritter via groups.io <howard.ritter@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2022 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

The remote scope is mouth-watering, Roland! Thanks for posting the link.

It seems to me that the cost of constructing such a large and robust building in that remote and forbidding place, laying the electricals to it, equipping it with the support electronics, and so on, must outweigh the cost of the the current scope it houses by a factor of several. Or 10. If you don’t mind an indelicate and intrusive question: After committing whatever level of funding to the cause, why stop at 12”? Why not go 10% higher and double the aperture, twice the bang for only a little more buck? That place looks like it wants the 24” PlaneWave on an el Capitan that you showed at NEAF!

—howard

On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:45 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Stephens <mikestephens-milkeycorp@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2022 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Deep Helix

Hi there Rolondo - I would love to see any pics of ur observatory in Chile. rgds & tnx, Mike

PS- Nice Shot. Way to go Howard and Dave! 

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics