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Dec Arc Modeling tool in NINA

Jim Crumly
 

Hi everyone
I have a couple of questions, been watching the videos on the DEC Arc Modeling and have a question.
I have a Davis weather station sending my data to weather underground, and NINA reads it. :-)
1. in the Video on APPM settings, they mention weather as a parameter. Can APPM pull my weather data from NINA and use it?
2. in the Video on the AP tools in NINA it does not mention weather, but again does it, or can it pull my weather data from NINA and use it?

Thanks
Clear Skys
Jim
Patrick Sparkman
 

APCC can read information from an ASCOM Weather app.  Then use that temp, humidity, and potentially pressure when building a model and doing the refraction correction.  There may be other ways to get the information, but an ASCOM weather app works great.
Jim Crumly
 

Thanks Patrick

I didn’t really want to buy another weather station, check out the prices on a Davis Vantage Pro2.

It works fine in NINA. I also send my weather data to CWOP which is a civilian weather network which QA’s my station every day.

Ill check the ASCOM weather app and see how it works.

 

Jim

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Sparkman via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 6:37 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dec Arc Modeling tool in NINA

 

APCC can read information from an ASCOM Weather app.  Then use that temp, humidity, and potentially pressure when building a model and doing the refraction correction.  There may be other ways to get the information, but an ASCOM weather app works great.
Brian Valente
 

HI Jim

Any ASCOM compliant weather source will work, unfortunately Davis is more of a consumer type application and lacks an official one

However, there's some discussion and a project for ASCOM driver for the Davis Weather Station
I don't have any experience with it, but here's the links:

and


On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 5:55 PM Jim Crumly <jimwc@...> wrote:

Thanks Patrick

I didn’t really want to buy another weather station, check out the prices on a Davis Vantage Pro2.

It works fine in NINA. I also send my weather data to CWOP which is a civilian weather network which QA’s my station every day.

Ill check the ASCOM weather app and see how it works.

 

Jim

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Sparkman via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 6:37 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dec Arc Modeling tool in NINA

 

APCC can read information from an ASCOM Weather app.  Then use that temp, humidity, and potentially pressure when building a model and doing the refraction correction.  There may be other ways to get the information, but an ASCOM weather app works great.



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Jim Crumly
 

Brian, Patrick

I did go on the open weather map it seemed to work. Ill have to check the readings against my station. They could be picking up my weather from CWOP or the Davis network.

Ill also check out the Davis ASCOM links.

Patrick, Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Brian, Thanks for the links Ill check them out.

 

Clear Sky’s

Jim

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Valente
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 7:41 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dec Arc Modeling tool in NINA

 

HI Jim

 

Any ASCOM compliant weather source will work, unfortunately Davis is more of a consumer type application and lacks an official one

 

However, there's some discussion and a project for ASCOM driver for the Davis Weather Station

I don't have any experience with it, but here's the links:

 

and

 

 

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 5:55 PM Jim Crumly <jimwc@...> wrote:

Thanks Patrick

I didn’t really want to buy another weather station, check out the prices on a Davis Vantage Pro2.

It works fine in NINA. I also send my weather data to CWOP which is a civilian weather network which QA’s my station every day.

Ill check the ASCOM weather app and see how it works.

 

Jim

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Sparkman via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 6:37 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dec Arc Modeling tool in NINA

 

APCC can read information from an ASCOM Weather app.  Then use that temp, humidity, and potentially pressure when building a model and doing the refraction correction.  There may be other ways to get the information, but an ASCOM weather app works great.


 

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Jim Crumly
 

Ok I have another question. How close does the environmental paramotors have to be.

With open weather map I can get my city but not my exact station. So, my temp is about 2-3 degrees F. off, pressure is 10-20 mb off, when I click the test button in APPC.

Is this close enough.

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Crumly
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 5:49 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Dec Arc Modeling tool in NINA

 

Hi everyone
I have a couple of questions, been watching the videos on the DEC Arc Modeling and have a question.
I have a Davis weather station sending my data to weather underground, and NINA reads it. :-)
1. in the Video on APPM settings, they mention weather as a parameter. Can APPM pull my weather data from NINA and use it?
2. in the Video on the AP tools in NINA it does not mention weather, but again does it, or can it pull my weather data from NINA and use it?

Thanks
Clear Skys
Jim

Brian Valente
 

Hi Jim

I think that is fine for the initial. 

Can you connect to that same source while imaging?

What's just as important is having access to a consistent temperature source that has the same measurements. 





On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 8:59 AM Jim Crumly <jimwc@...> wrote:

Ok I have another question. How close does the environmental paramotors have to be.

With open weather map I can get my city but not my exact station. So, my temp is about 2-3 degrees F. off, pressure is 10-20 mb off, when I click the test button in APPC.

Is this close enough.

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Crumly
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 5:49 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Dec Arc Modeling tool in NINA

 

Hi everyone
I have a couple of questions, been watching the videos on the DEC Arc Modeling and have a question.
I have a Davis weather station sending my data to weather underground, and NINA reads it. :-)
1. in the Video on APPM settings, they mention weather as a parameter. Can APPM pull my weather data from NINA and use it?
2. in the Video on the AP tools in NINA it does not mention weather, but again does it, or can it pull my weather data from NINA and use it?

Thanks
Clear Skys
Jim



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Dean Jacobsen
 

Perhaps it would depend on focal length and/or image scale.  My scopes range from 380 mm to 1000 mm focal length.  I enter the temperature and pressure parameters manually when I do an APPM mapping run and then “try” and update manually through the night.  I keep a s app battery powered thermometer/pressure meter at the scope.  However,  I am frequently a degree or two Centigrade off - sometimes more - at various random times throughout the night.  So for my setup it isn’t too critical as long as I am in the ballpark.   I still end up with perfectly round stars.  Your mileage may vary,  experiment and see what happens.
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Dean Jacobsen
Astrobin Image Gallery - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/

Alex
 

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 05:55 PM, Jim Crumly wrote:

Thanks Patrick

I didn’t really want to buy another weather station, check out the prices on a Davis Vantage Pro2.

It works fine in NINA. I also send my weather data to CWOP which is a civilian weather network which QA’s my station every day.

Ill check the ASCOM weather app and see how it works.

 

 

How are you sending your weather data to CWOP?  I'm using the third party meteobridge software to do this.  I've written an Alpaca based ASCOM driver to get the weather data from the meteobridge.  APCC has no problem getting it from my driver.  That won't help you if you're not using meteobridge though.
Jim Crumly
 

Hi Alex

I’m using the “weatherlink live” wifi  to the Davis cloud then to CWOP

I do have a weatherlink data logger software from Davis only problem its hard wired to the console.

I also send my weather data to CWOP which is a civilian weather network which QA’s my station every day.

Ill check the ASCOM Davis driver and see how it works with the data logger. If that doesn’t work, I’ll try the metrobridge, and I’ll be in touch for the driver.

Thanks for the heads up.

Jim

 

 

  

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alex
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 7:02 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dec Arc Modeling tool in NINA

 

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 05:55 PM, Jim Crumly wrote:

Thanks Patrick

I didn’t really want to buy another weather station, check out the prices on a Davis Vantage Pro2.

It works fine in NINA.

 

How are you sending your weather data to CWOP?  I'm using the third party meteobridge software to do this.  I've written an Alpaca based ASCOM driver to get the weather data from the meteobridge.  APCC has no problem getting it from my driver.  That won't help you if you're not using meteobridge though.
Jim Crumly
 

Brian

I got the Davis logger to work on my computer so I know I’m getting data that far. Now I try the ASCOM driver in APCC I get a message that “Object reference not set to an instance of an object”

How do I set the Object Reference?

Thanks

Jim

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Valente
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 7:41 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dec Arc Modeling tool in NINA

 

HI Jim

 

Any ASCOM compliant weather source will work, unfortunately Davis is more of a consumer type application and lacks an official one

 

However, there's some discussion and a project for ASCOM driver for the Davis Weather Station

I don't have any experience with it, but here's the links:

 

and

 

 

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 5:55 PM Jim Crumly <jimwc@...> wrote:

Thanks Patrick

I didn’t really want to buy another weather station, check out the prices on a Davis Vantage Pro2.

It works fine in NINA. I also send my weather data to CWOP which is a civilian weather network which QA’s my station every day.

Ill check the ASCOM weather app and see how it works.

 

Jim

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Sparkman via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 6:37 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dec Arc Modeling tool in NINA

 

APCC can read information from an ASCOM Weather app.  Then use that temp, humidity, and potentially pressure when building a model and doing the refraction correction.  There may be other ways to get the information, but an ASCOM weather app works great.


 

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Brian Valente
 

Hi Jim

I will send you a PM

On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 5:13 PM Jim Crumly <jimwc@...> wrote:

Brian

I got the Davis logger to work on my computer so I know I’m getting data that far. Now I try the ASCOM driver in APCC I get a message that “Object reference not set to an instance of an object”

How do I set the Object Reference?

Thanks

Jim

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Valente
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 7:41 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dec Arc Modeling tool in NINA

 

HI Jim

 

Any ASCOM compliant weather source will work, unfortunately Davis is more of a consumer type application and lacks an official one

 

However, there's some discussion and a project for ASCOM driver for the Davis Weather Station

I don't have any experience with it, but here's the links:

 

and

 

 

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 5:55 PM Jim Crumly <jimwc@...> wrote:

Thanks Patrick

I didn’t really want to buy another weather station, check out the prices on a Davis Vantage Pro2.

It works fine in NINA. I also send my weather data to CWOP which is a civilian weather network which QA’s my station every day.

Ill check the ASCOM weather app and see how it works.

 

Jim

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Sparkman via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 6:37 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dec Arc Modeling tool in NINA

 

APCC can read information from an ASCOM Weather app.  Then use that temp, humidity, and potentially pressure when building a model and doing the refraction correction.  There may be other ways to get the information, but an ASCOM weather app works great.


 

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Jim Crumly
 

Thanks

jim

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Valente
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 6:29 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dec Arc Modeling tool in NINA

 

Hi Jim

 

I will send you a PM

 

On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 5:13 PM Jim Crumly <jimwc@...> wrote:

Brian

I got the Davis logger to work on my computer so I know I’m getting data that far. Now I try the ASCOM driver in APCC I get a message that “Object reference not set to an instance of an object”

How do I set the Object Reference?

Thanks

Jim

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Valente
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 7:41 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dec Arc Modeling tool in NINA

 

HI Jim

 

Any ASCOM compliant weather source will work, unfortunately Davis is more of a consumer type application and lacks an official one

 

However, there's some discussion and a project for ASCOM driver for the Davis Weather Station

I don't have any experience with it, but here's the links:

 

and

 

 

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 5:55 PM Jim Crumly <jimwc@...> wrote:

Thanks Patrick

I didn’t really want to buy another weather station, check out the prices on a Davis Vantage Pro2.

It works fine in NINA. I also send my weather data to CWOP which is a civilian weather network which QA’s my station every day.

Ill check the ASCOM weather app and see how it works.

 

Jim

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Sparkman via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 6:37 PM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dec Arc Modeling tool in NINA

 

APCC can read information from an ASCOM Weather app.  Then use that temp, humidity, and potentially pressure when building a model and doing the refraction correction.  There may be other ways to get the information, but an ASCOM weather app works great.


 

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