AP1100 CP4 pier crash


Roland Christen
 


Sure would be nice if a meridian flip fails for some reason, power is left on and forgotten about, or if connected to a laptop and the laptop crashes and the mount has nothing to tell it to stop tracking or park at the end of the night.
All that is already in APCC. The mount can be programmed to do all of the above.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric M <eric.marlatt@...>
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Sent: Sat, Apr 25, 2020 9:09 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP1100 CP4 pier crash

Could limits be programmed into the control box to stop this from being a danger? Sure would be nice if a meridian flip fails for some reason, power is left on and forgotten about, or if connected to a laptop and the laptop crashes and the mount has nothing to tell it to stop tracking or park at the end of the night. I know APCC addresses some of these situations, but requiring a computer to be connected at all times is not always ideal. Seems like it would be a huge bonus to safety, we have some pretty expensive equipment riding on these mounts. 

Eric


Eric M
 

I typically don't use a laptop when I image so APCC won't be of any help. Is what Christopher said true? Can this really be done on the CP4? 

If not, is it possible this could be added? Some simple safety limits (at the CP4 level) past the meridian sure would give some piece of mind that our investments are protected and I'm sure would prevent many of the crashes we hear about, something as simple as "if the mount reaches X minutes past meridian, stop tracking". 

Eric


Ray Gralak
 

Eric,

I typically don't use a laptop when I image so APCC won't be of any help. Is what Christopher said true? Can this
really be done on the CP4?
It requires some sort of computer to setup the CP4 and monitor the mount position as you would have to send commands to the CP4. If the CP4 does not receive any commands for a certain period of time the mount can stop tracking and park itself in place. There are soft limits that can be setup but there's a lot of complexity in getting the commands right. If you sync/recal/unlock clutches+move scope then the limits need to be reprogrammed.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric M
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 8:04 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP1100 CP4 pier crash

I typically don't use a laptop when I image so APCC won't be of any help. Is what Christopher said true? Can this
really be done on the CP4?

If not, is it possible this could be added? Some simple safety limits (at the CP4 level) past the meridian sure
would give some piece of mind that our investments are protected and I'm sure would prevent many of the
crashes we hear about, something as simple as "if the mount reaches X minutes past meridian, stop tracking".

Eric


Worsel
 

Eric

See page 41 in https://astro-physics.info/tech_support/mounts/keypad/keypad-manual.pdf

Does this meet your needs?

Bryan


Eric M
 

Thanks for the info Ray, having a PC connected initially wouldn't be a problem and I very rarely unlock the clutches. If it needs to be reprogrammed after every sync that sounds like it could be a pain, that is something I frequently do. 
 
Bryan the safe zones on page 41 are what I was hoping would be available, but it looks like this only protects against a slew command putting it in an unwanted spot. It sounds like it does not offer protection for standard tracking and doesn't accept values past the meridian. 


Ray Gralak
 

Eric,

What is your use case where you would potentially leave the mount tracking?

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric M
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 12:07 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP1100 CP4 pier crash

Thanks for the info Ray, having a PC connected initially wouldn't be a problem and I very rarely unlock the
clutches. If it needs to be reprogrammed after every sync that sounds like it could be a pain, that is something I
frequently do.

Bryan the safe zones on page 41 are what I was hoping would be available, but it looks like this only protects
against a slew command putting it in an unwanted spot. It sounds like it does not offer protection for standard
tracking and doesn't accept values past the meridian.