Park 4 vs Park 5 #Keypad


Christopher M <mirfak@...>
 

Hello Everyone.  Thank you for the responses.  
I have a Mach 1 but I assume this applies to any of the mounts other than maybe the Mach 2 who's encoders are not imacted by loosening the clutches and moving the mount manually.  I run a portable setup, not a permanent one, so mount will never be in eactly the same place each time, meaning the levelness of the mount base and tripod will vary from setup to setup even with the built in bubble level on the base of the mount.  That means I consider every new setup to be inaccurate until I finish proper polar alignment and star syncing.

On a side, note, a RAPAS is on my wish list.  Currently I'm using a Polemaster as I had one.

Cheers!
Christopher


M Hambrick
 

Hi Christopher

For leveling purposes does your 1100 mount have a bubble level in the mount base ? This should be sufficient to allow you to get leveled during set up because your RAPAS polar alignment should allow for slight errors in level.

I would suggest having your mount in Park 2 when you set it up and take it down and don't mess with the clutches (I assume this is what you referred to as "lock knobs"). The problem with loosening the clutches is that you risk losing the pointing accuracy of the mount. 

Mike


Roland Christen
 

You can use either one.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher M <mirfak@...>
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Sent: Sun, Jan 29, 2023 2:33 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Park 4 vs Park 5 #Keypad

In AP document https://astro-physics.info/tech_support/mounts/park-positions-defined.pdf on the first page, it says "If you want a park position that can be accurately leveled, we recommend Park 5"
Is Park 4 as accurate a starting point as Park 5?  I assume it is.
I ask because keypad software 4.19 (4.19.3 for me) does not have a Park 5 position.  Park 4 looks effectively the same to me as Park 5 except that the OTA is pointing the other way.
Note that I'm a portable observer and imager and I use the lock knobs all the time to move things around before I get it all going.  ie I mount my OTA in roughly a Park 2 position then swing it around and level it in usually Park 1 or Park 4 and start up the mount from there.
Thanks in advance.
Christopher

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Richard
 

I use both Park 4 and Park 5 to level the telescope and compare them.  The difference is that for one of these park positions, I have the knobs for the saddle dovetail up while for the other park position the knobs are down and easy to set a bullet level on the saddle. 


Chris White
 
Edited

On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 06:52 PM, Mike Dodd wrote:
Sorry, I goofed. You are correct, Park 1 has the OTA horizontal pointing north. Sorry.
So does park 5. Just the ota is on the east side instead of the west. 

To anyone reading: Here are the positions all explained: 
https://astro-physics.info/tech_support/mounts/park-positions-defined.pdf


Mike Dodd
 

On 1/29/2023 6:43 PM, Chris White wrote:
On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 05:59 PM, Mike Dodd wrote:
Park 5 is the same as Park 3,
Park 3 is pointing at the pole
Sorry, I goofed. You are correct, Park 1 has the OTA horizontal pointing north. Sorry.

--- Mike


Chris White
 

On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 05:59 PM, Mike Dodd wrote:
Park 5 is the same as Park 3,
Park 3 is pointing at the pole


Konstantin v. Poschinger
 

Hi,

wrong, the same as park 1!!!
Both 1 and 5 have the telescope looking north!

Konstantin

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 30.01.2023 um 00:00 schrieb Mike Dodd <mike@...>:

On 1/29/2023 3:33 PM, Christopher M wrote:
want a park position that can be accurately leveled, we recommend Park 5"
Is Park 4 as accurate a starting point as Park 5? I assume it is.
Most likely. Park 5 is the same as Park 3, but the OTA is on the
opposite side of the pier. I used Park 3 many times. The only reason not
to use Park 3 is that as soon as you unpark, the mount moves into a
counterweight-up position, which (as I understand it) can create
problems with some software.

Park 4 looks effectively the same to me as Park 5 except that the OTA
is pointing the other way.
Yes.
[...] I mount my OTA in roughly a Park 2 position then swing it
around and level it in usually Park 1 or Park 4 and start up the
mount from there. Thanks in advance.
Use Park 4 instead of Park 5.

--- Mike






Mike Dodd
 

On 1/29/2023 3:33 PM, Christopher M wrote:
want a park position that can be accurately leveled, we recommend Park 5"
Is Park 4 as accurate a starting point as Park 5? I assume it is.
Most likely. Park 5 is the same as Park 3, but the OTA is on the
opposite side of the pier. I used Park 3 many times. The only reason not
to use Park 3 is that as soon as you unpark, the mount moves into a
counterweight-up position, which (as I understand it) can create
problems with some software.

Park 4 looks effectively the same to me as Park 5 except that the OTA
is pointing the other way.
Yes.
[...] I mount my OTA in roughly a Park 2 position then swing it
around and level it in usually Park 1 or Park 4 and start up the
mount from there. Thanks in advance.
Use Park 4 instead of Park 5.

--- Mike


Dean Jacobsen
 

Which mount do you have Christopher?
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Dean Jacobsen
Astrobin Image Gallery - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/


Christopher M <mirfak@...>
 

In AP document https://astro-physics.info/tech_support/mounts/park-positions-defined.pdf on the first page, it says "If you want a park position that can be accurately leveled, we recommend Park 5"
Is Park 4 as accurate a starting point as Park 5?  I assume it is.
I ask because keypad software 4.19 (4.19.3 for me) does not have a Park 5 position.  Park 4 looks effectively the same to me as Park 5 except that the OTA is pointing the other way.
Note that I'm a portable observer and imager and I use the lock knobs all the time to move things around before I get it all going.  ie I mount my OTA in roughly a Park 2 position then swing it around and level it in usually Park 1 or Park 4 and start up the mount from there.
Thanks in advance.
Christopher