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Bill Long #70751 Hello all, Having an issue with a motor stall after re-greasing my 1100AE mount. The stall seems to be related to movements in DEC. When I press those buttons on the keypad, the light on the back turns amber without any movement occurring. Using the spring-loaded worm system works fine, I can release and re-engage with no issues and the worm spins freely with no unexpected contact. I have no strange play in DEC, it is nice and solid as expected. I do have to be clear about one thing I did do mistakenly. There is a large hex bolt above the backstop/switch that I loosened when the instructions said the "center screw" not seeing the one on the inside of the motor box. I tightened it back up before proceeding any further once I found the right screw -- I am guessing this is related. Any steps I can take? I went through the motor removal and reinstallation process and that has not aided in solving the problem. Thanks, Bill
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Roland Christen #70752 Check your wiring. Your motor might not be connected to the CP. Rolando toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:19 pm Subject: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Hello all, Having an issue with a motor stall after re-greasing my 1100AE mount. The stall seems to be related to movements in DEC. When I press those buttons on the keypad, the light on the back turns amber without any movement occurring. Using the spring-loaded worm system works fine, I can release and re-engage with no issues and the worm spins freely with no unexpected contact. I have no strange play in DEC, it is nice and solid as expected. I do have to be clear about one thing I did do mistakenly. There is a large hex bolt above the backstop/switch that I loosened when the instructions said the "center screw" not seeing the one on the inside of the motor box. I tightened it back up before proceeding any further once I found the right screw -- I am guessing this is related. Any steps I can take? I went through the motor removal and reinstallation process and that has not aided in solving the problem. Thanks, Bill
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Bill Long #70753 Wiring is good to go. Spur gear moves fine by hand. toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:36 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Check your wiring. Your motor might not be connected to the CP. Rolando -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:19 pm Subject: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Hello all, Having an issue with a motor stall after re-greasing my 1100AE mount. The stall seems to be related to movements in DEC. When I press those buttons on the keypad, the light on the back turns amber without any movement occurring. Using the spring-loaded worm system works fine, I can release and re-engage with no issues and the worm spins freely with no unexpected contact. I have no strange play in DEC, it is nice and solid as expected. I do have to be clear about one thing I did do mistakenly. There is a large hex bolt above the backstop/switch that I loosened when the instructions said the "center screw" not seeing the one on the inside of the motor box. I tightened it back up before proceeding any further once I found the right screw -- I am guessing this is related. Any steps I can take? I went through the motor removal and reinstallation process and that has not aided in solving the problem. Thanks, Bill
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Roland Christen #70754 Plug the RA cable into the Dec and see if the motor will move. If it does not, then you have a motor problem. If it does move, then you have a cable problem. It won't be mechanical by what you have described. Roland toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:39 pm Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Wiring is good to go. Spur gear moves fine by hand. From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:36 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Check your wiring. Your motor might not be connected to the CP. Rolando -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:19 pm Subject: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Hello all, Having an issue with a motor stall after re-greasing my 1100AE mount. The stall seems to be related to movements in DEC. When I press those buttons on the keypad, the light on the back turns amber without any movement occurring. Using the spring-loaded worm system works fine, I can release and re-engage with no issues and the worm spins freely with no unexpected contact. I have no strange play in DEC, it is nice and solid as expected. I do have to be clear about one thing I did do mistakenly. There is a large hex bolt above the backstop/switch that I loosened when the instructions said the "center screw" not seeing the one on the inside of the motor box. I tightened it back up before proceeding any further once I found the right screw -- I am guessing this is related. Any steps I can take? I went through the motor removal and reinstallation process and that has not aided in solving the problem. Thanks, Bill
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Bill Long #70755 Here is that bolt I mentioned... toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Long <bill@...> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:39 PM To: uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Wiring is good to go. Spur gear moves fine by hand. From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:36 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Check your wiring. Your motor might not be connected to the CP. Rolando -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:19 pm Subject: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Hello all, Having an issue with a motor stall after re-greasing my 1100AE mount. The stall seems to be related to movements in DEC. When I press those buttons on the keypad, the light on the back turns amber without any movement occurring. Using the spring-loaded worm system works fine, I can release and re-engage with no issues and the worm spins freely with no unexpected contact. I have no strange play in DEC, it is nice and solid as expected. I do have to be clear about one thing I did do mistakenly. There is a large hex bolt above the backstop/switch that I loosened when the instructions said the "center screw" not seeing the one on the inside of the motor box. I tightened it back up before proceeding any further once I found the right screw -- I am guessing this is related. Any steps I can take? I went through the motor removal and reinstallation process and that has not aided in solving the problem. Thanks, Bill
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Bill Long #70756 I grabbed the previous Y Cable I used before the encoder system replacement and plugged both in, RA will move, DEC wont. RA will eventually stop and throw a motor stall though. toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:41 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Plug the RA cable into the Dec and see if the motor will move. If it does not, then you have a motor problem. If it does move, then you have a cable problem. It won't be mechanical by what you have described. Roland -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:39 pm Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Wiring is good to go. Spur gear moves fine by hand. From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:36 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Check your wiring. Your motor might not be connected to the CP. Rolando -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:19 pm Subject: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Hello all, Having an issue with a motor stall after re-greasing my 1100AE mount. The stall seems to be related to movements in DEC. When I press those buttons on the keypad, the light on the back turns amber without any movement occurring. Using the spring-loaded worm system works fine, I can release and re-engage with no issues and the worm spins freely with no unexpected contact. I have no strange play in DEC, it is nice and solid as expected. I do have to be clear about one thing I did do mistakenly. There is a large hex bolt above the backstop/switch that I loosened when the instructions said the "center screw" not seeing the one on the inside of the motor box. I tightened it back up before proceeding any further once I found the right screw -- I am guessing this is related. Any steps I can take? I went through the motor removal and reinstallation process and that has not aided in solving the problem. Thanks, Bill
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Roland Christen #70757 Just tighten it back up. Snug, not super tight. It's the pivot point. Has zero to do with your motor stall. You know that you can run the motor with the gears out of mesh. That way you know you are not overly tight. Roland toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:43 pm Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Here is that bolt I mentioned... From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Long <bill@...> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:39 PM To: uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Wiring is good to go. Spur gear moves fine by hand. From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:36 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Check your wiring. Your motor might not be connected to the CP. Rolando -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:19 pm Subject: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Hello all, Having an issue with a motor stall after re-greasing my 1100AE mount. The stall seems to be related to movements in DEC. When I press those buttons on the keypad, the light on the back turns amber without any movement occurring. Using the spring-loaded worm system works fine, I can release and re-engage with no issues and the worm spins freely with no unexpected contact. I have no strange play in DEC, it is nice and solid as expected. I do have to be clear about one thing I did do mistakenly. There is a large hex bolt above the backstop/switch that I loosened when the instructions said the "center screw" not seeing the one on the inside of the motor box. I tightened it back up before proceeding any further once I found the right screw -- I am guessing this is related. Any steps I can take? I went through the motor removal and reinstallation process and that has not aided in solving the problem. Thanks, Bill
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Roland Christen #70758 You have a loose Dec connection. Check inside the RA axis. Roland toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:51 pm Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue I grabbed the previous Y Cable I used before the encoder system replacement and plugged both in, RA will move, DEC wont. RA will eventually stop and throw a motor stall though. From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:41 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Plug the RA cable into the Dec and see if the motor will move. If it does not, then you have a motor problem. If it does move, then you have a cable problem. It won't be mechanical by what you have described. Roland -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:39 pm Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Wiring is good to go. Spur gear moves fine by hand. From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:36 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Check your wiring. Your motor might not be connected to the CP. Rolando -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:19 pm Subject: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Hello all, Having an issue with a motor stall after re-greasing my 1100AE mount. The stall seems to be related to movements in DEC. When I press those buttons on the keypad, the light on the back turns amber without any movement occurring. Using the spring-loaded worm system works fine, I can release and re-engage with no issues and the worm spins freely with no unexpected contact. I have no strange play in DEC, it is nice and solid as expected. I do have to be clear about one thing I did do mistakenly. There is a large hex bolt above the backstop/switch that I loosened when the instructions said the "center screw" not seeing the one on the inside of the motor box. I tightened it back up before proceeding any further once I found the right screw -- I am guessing this is related. Any steps I can take? I went through the motor removal and reinstallation process and that has not aided in solving the problem. Thanks, Bill
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Roland Christen #70759 The two motor boxes are identical. I'll leave it to you to figure out how to check where the problem is. I have to go sleep now. Roland toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sun, May 31, 2020 12:01 am Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue You have a loose Dec connection. Check inside the RA axis. Roland -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:51 pm Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue I grabbed the previous Y Cable I used before the encoder system replacement and plugged both in, RA will move, DEC wont. RA will eventually stop and throw a motor stall though. From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:41 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Plug the RA cable into the Dec and see if the motor will move. If it does not, then you have a motor problem. If it does move, then you have a cable problem. It won't be mechanical by what you have described. Roland -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:39 pm Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Wiring is good to go. Spur gear moves fine by hand. From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:36 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Check your wiring. Your motor might not be connected to the CP. Rolando -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:19 pm Subject: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Hello all, Having an issue with a motor stall after re-greasing my 1100AE mount. The stall seems to be related to movements in DEC. When I press those buttons on the keypad, the light on the back turns amber without any movement occurring. Using the spring-loaded worm system works fine, I can release and re-engage with no issues and the worm spins freely with no unexpected contact. I have no strange play in DEC, it is nice and solid as expected. I do have to be clear about one thing I did do mistakenly. There is a large hex bolt above the backstop/switch that I loosened when the instructions said the "center screw" not seeing the one on the inside of the motor box. I tightened it back up before proceeding any further once I found the right screw -- I am guessing this is related. Any steps I can take? I went through the motor removal and reinstallation process and that has not aided in solving the problem. Thanks, Bill
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Bill Long #70760 Sleep well. Looks like this black lead is loose. toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 10:02 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue The two motor boxes are identical. I'll leave it to you to figure out how to check where the problem is. I have to go sleep now. Roland -----Original Message----- From: uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sun, May 31, 2020 12:01 am Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue You have a loose Dec connection. Check inside the RA axis. Roland -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:51 pm Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue I grabbed the previous Y Cable I used before the encoder system replacement and plugged both in, RA will move, DEC wont. RA will eventually stop and throw a motor stall though. From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:41 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Plug the RA cable into the Dec and see if the motor will move. If it does not, then you have a motor problem. If it does move, then you have a cable problem. It won't be mechanical by what you have described. Roland -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:39 pm Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Wiring is good to go. Spur gear moves fine by hand. From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:36 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Check your wiring. Your motor might not be connected to the CP. Rolando -----Original Message----- From: Bill Long <bill@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Sat, May 30, 2020 11:19 pm Subject: [ap-gto] Stall Issue Hello all, Having an issue with a motor stall after re-greasing my 1100AE mount. The stall seems to be related to movements in DEC. When I press those buttons on the keypad, the light on the back turns amber without any movement occurring. Using the spring-loaded worm system works fine, I can release and re-engage with no issues and the worm spins freely with no unexpected contact. I have no strange play in DEC, it is nice and solid as expected. I do have to be clear about one thing I did do mistakenly. There is a large hex bolt above the backstop/switch that I loosened when the instructions said the "center screw" not seeing the one on the inside of the motor box. I tightened it back up before proceeding any further once I found the right screw -- I am guessing this is related. Any steps I can take? I went through the motor removal and reinstallation process and that has not aided in solving the problem. Thanks, Bill
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