No, it is not an ASCOM driver issue. Not 100% sure that it is an autoguiding issue either but in my mind at least it very well could be. But, on this topic, if I were to want to bypass the guider relays...to rule that out... Setup Maxim 5.18 to guide via ASCOM direct. As I am using The Sky 6... in the mix here, along with ACP, and an older version of Focusmax do I need to configure anything with the "observatory control window" in Maxim or just use the AP ASCOM driver? Maxim's help mentions this, but it doesn't look like I need to do so for ASCOM direct. I have nothing configured in the now, rather not add another layer of complexity if not needed. Would calibration be about the same as for guiding through the relays, looking for a movement of 40 pixels or so? In the AP ASCOM driver, would I guide at 1X, .5X, or .25X? I currently guide at 1X with the relays. What about aggressiveness during guiding? With the relays run 6 to 6.5, similar or...? Run this higher? I seem to have a recollection that the issue was that the scope was getting sent corrections or something when I tried this before but might not have had it setup right. Anything else I am missing here? Thanks... Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com Mike J. Shade Photography: mshadephotography.com In War: Resolution In Defeat: Defiance In Victory: Magnanimity In Peace: Goodwill Sir Winston Churchill Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights. Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west. Can it be half a year since I watched her April rising in the east? Low in the southwest Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall... Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights International Dark Sky Association: < http://www.darksky.org/> www.darksky.org From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 12:59 PM To: ap-gto@... Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Some odd RA issues? Yes (or through whatever the native STL6303E uses for guiding). Ok, in that case the ASCOM driver is not involved in this autoguiding issue. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.comAuthor of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriverAuthor of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.comAuthor of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma-----Original Message----- From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 12:31 PM To: ap-gto@... Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Some odd RA issues?
Yes (or through whatever the native STL6303E uses for guiding). I did try guiding through ASCOM direct or whatever it was, didn't seem to work very well if I recall. There seemed to be an issue with corrections being sent to the mount. It may have been as simple of not knowing the right settings for that configuration. Not running USB to the mount, USB of course to the camera.
A finicky guider relay might account for this though. The system calibrates just fine with a 40+ pixel movement in both RA and DEC. I have replaced the guider dongle on the camera and will try another guider cable. Over the years have seen guider cables do weird and unexpected things.
Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com
Mike J. Shade Photography:
mshadephotography.com
In War: Resolution
In Defeat: Defiance
In Victory: Magnanimity
In Peace: Goodwill
Sir Winston Churchill
Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.
Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west. Can it be half
a year since I watched her April rising in the east? Low in the southwest
Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...
Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights
International Dark Sky Association: <http://www.darksky.org/> www.darksky.org
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 11:08 AM To: ap-gto@... Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Some odd RA issues?
Hi Mike,
I am suspecting something with guiding, easiest is weird guider cable, maybe the guider plug on the camera. Are you autoguiding through relays?
-Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
-----Original Message----- From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:58 AM To: ap-gto@... Subject: [ap-gto] Some odd RA issues?
Here is the scenario: AP1600GTO permanent in observatory with CP4 controller, Planewave CDK17, Optec
Gemini focuser-rotator/SBIG STL6303E camera, unbinned resolution .64"/pixel. Running Maxim 5.18 and
ACP. So far so good. Now here is where it gets curious. As I am in SE AZ, had to shut down for monsoon
from early July to middle of September. All electronics were unplugged, I do not suspect lightning damage.
Prior to shutdown in July this system returned round stars across the frame in 10-minute subs, guided.
After starting up again in September, noticed that the stars were ever
so slightly off in RA, maybe a pixel or
two, just enough to be not quite round, again in RA only. However, images in RA last night showed several
frames where there were actually double stars. Looking at the guider log showed some pretty good jumps in
RA. The guider calibrates just fine with a 40+/ pixel move, and I have been able to do a 5-minute unguided
with round stars after startup in September. Of course checked primary mirror spacing, collimation, if
everything is snug, cable drag and so on. I have remeshed the gears and redone PEC, issues persists.
This is a random issue. The Maxim guider log shows some hefty jumps in RA but NOT in DEC.
It is curious that prior to shutdown it worked like a champ...now...some issues with a number of images that
are just out of round enough as to be useless, in RA. It is always in RA. I have looked for rodent damage,
none.
I am suspecting something with guiding, easiest is weird guider cable, maybe the guider plug on the camera.
Anyone else seen this or have thoughts? I know this is about as broad as "gee doc, I have a
headache"...could be anything.
AP driver number is 5.09.07.
Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com
Mike J. Shade Photography:
mshadephotography.com
In War: Resolution
In Defeat: Defiance
In Victory: Magnanimity
In Peace: Goodwill
Sir Winston Churchill
Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.
Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west. Can it be
half a year since I watched her April rising in the east? Low in the
southwest Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...
Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights
International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org <http://www.darksky.org/>
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Mike,
How high up on DEC are you initially Calibrating your
guider?
I assume, as a matter of course, that you would
calibrate the guider right at the Celestial Equator & Prime Meridian.
The guider software “should scale” its guide movements
at the actual DEC target guiding start position -
(which is provided to it by TSX). Some software (e.g. CCDSOFT), may need the
target star’s DEC value to be entered by the user.
Obviously, if you start off by
calibrating at a high DEC angle, the guiding will either be much less
precise or fail entirely.
In such case, this could account for your occasional
“larger guiding jumps”, if seeing conditions cause momentary loss of
target.
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I calibrate at about 0 degrees dec east of the meridian. I am of course guiding through the guider relays currently. If anyone can assist in setting up ASCOM direct, I'll try that again, perhaps earlier attempts were not configured properly... Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com Mike J. Shade Photography: mshadephotography.com In War: Resolution In Defeat: Defiance In Victory: Magnanimity In Peace: Goodwill Sir Winston Churchill Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights. Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west. Can it be half a year since I watched her April rising in the east? Low in the southwest Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall... Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights International Dark Sky Association: < http://www.darksky.org/> www.darksky.org From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 2:48 PM To: ap-gto@... Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Some odd RA issues/configure ASCOM? Mike, How high up on DEC are you initially Calibrating your guider? I assume, as a matter of course, that you would calibrate the guider right at the Celestial Equator & Prime Meridian. The guider software “should scale” its guide movements at the actual DEC target guiding start position - (which is provided to it by TSX). Some software (e.g. CCDSOFT), may need the target star’s DEC value to be entered by the user. Obviously, if you start off by calibrating at a high DEC angle, the guiding will either be much less precise or fail entirely. In such case, this could account for your occasional “larger guiding jumps”, if seeing conditions cause momentary loss of target. Joe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Ray Gralak
Hi Mike, But, on this topic, if I were to want to bypass the guider relays...to rule that out...
Setup Maxim 5.18 to guide via ASCOM direct. As I am using The Sky 6... in the mix here, along with ACP, and an older version of Focusmax do I need to configure anything with the "observatory control window" in Maxim or just use the AP ASCOM driver? Maxim's help mentions this, but it doesn't look like I need to do so for ASCOM direct. I have nothing configured in the now, rather not add another layer of complexity if not needed. It's been a long time since I used Maxim 5.x, but I don't think you want to use "ASCOM Direct". You want "Telescope", and you need to setup the Telescope to use the Astro-Physics ASCOM driver in the observatory window, *and* you need to connect to the driver in the Observatory window. If you don't connect, then I don't think Maxim will be able to use the driver. Would calibration be about the same as for guiding through the relays, looking for a movement of 40 pixels or so? I can't tell you how many pixels movement should occur as that depends on image scale, guider rate, and duration of exposure. However, if you do, say, 20 seconds per axis, that should be good enough. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.comAuthor of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriverAuthor of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.comAuthor of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma-----Original Message----- From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 1:48 PM To: ap-gto@... Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Some odd RA issues/configure ASCOM?
No, it is not an ASCOM driver issue. Not 100% sure that it is an autoguiding issue either but in my mind at least it very well could be.
But, on this topic, if I were to want to bypass the guider relays...to rule that out...
Setup Maxim 5.18 to guide via ASCOM direct. As I am using The Sky 6... in the mix here, along with ACP, and an older version of Focusmax do I need to configure anything with the "observatory control window" in Maxim or just use the AP ASCOM driver? Maxim's help mentions this, but it doesn't look like I need to do so for ASCOM direct. I have nothing configured in the now, rather not add another layer of complexity if not needed.
Would calibration be about the same as for guiding through the relays, looking for a movement of 40 pixels or so?
In the AP ASCOM driver, would I guide at 1X, .5X, or .25X? I currently guide at 1X with the relays.
What about aggressiveness during guiding? With the relays run 6 to 6.5, similar or...? Run this higher? I seem to have a recollection that the issue was that the scope was getting sent corrections or something when I tried this before but might not have had it setup right.
Anything else I am missing here?
Thanks...
Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com
Mike J. Shade Photography:
mshadephotography.com
In War: Resolution
In Defeat: Defiance
In Victory: Magnanimity
In Peace: Goodwill
Sir Winston Churchill
Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.
Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west. Can it be half
a year since I watched her April rising in the east? Low in the southwest
Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...
Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights
International Dark Sky Association: <http://www.darksky.org/> www.darksky.org
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 12:59 PM To: ap-gto@... Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Some odd RA issues?
Yes (or through whatever the native STL6303E uses for guiding). Ok, in that case the ASCOM driver is not involved in this autoguiding issue.
-Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/ap cc Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
-----Original Message----- From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 12:31 PM To: ap-gto@... Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Some odd RA issues?
Yes (or through whatever the native STL6303E uses for guiding). I did try guiding through ASCOM direct or whatever it was, didn't seem to work very well if I recall. There seemed to be an issue with corrections being sent to the mount. It may have been as simple of not knowing the right settings for that configuration. Not running USB to the mount, USB of course to the camera.
A finicky guider relay might account for this though. The system calibrates
just fine with a 40+ pixel movement in both RA and DEC. I have replaced the
guider dongle on the camera and will try another guider cable. Over the years have seen guider cables do weird and unexpected things.
Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com
Mike J. Shade Photography:
mshadephotography.com
In War: Resolution
In Defeat: Defiance
In Victory: Magnanimity
In Peace: Goodwill
Sir Winston Churchill
Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.
Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west. Can it be half
a year since I watched her April rising in the east? Low in the southwest
Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...
Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights
International Dark Sky Association: <http://www.darksky.org/> www.darksky.org
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 11:08 AM To: ap-gto@... Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Some odd RA issues?
Hi Mike,
I am suspecting something with guiding, easiest is weird guider cable, maybe the guider plug on the camera. Are you autoguiding through relays?
-Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/ap
cc Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
-----Original Message----- From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:58 AM To: ap-gto@... Subject: [ap-gto] Some odd RA issues?
Here is the scenario: AP1600GTO permanent in observatory with CP4 controller, Planewave CDK17, Optec
Gemini focuser-rotator/SBIG STL6303E camera, unbinned resolution .64"/pixel. Running Maxim 5.18 and
ACP. So far so good. Now here is where it gets curious. As I am in SE AZ,
had to shut down for monsoon
from early July to middle of September. All electronics were unplugged, I
do not suspect lightning damage.
Prior to shutdown in July this system returned round stars across the frame in 10-minute subs, guided.
After starting up again in September, noticed that the stars were ever
so
slightly off in RA, maybe a pixel or
two, just enough to be not quite round, again in RA only. However, images
in RA last night showed several
frames where there were actually double stars. Looking at the guider log showed some pretty good jumps in
RA. The guider calibrates just fine with a 40+/ pixel move, and I have been able to do a 5-minute unguided
with round stars after startup in September. Of course checked primary mirror spacing, collimation, if
everything is snug, cable drag and so on. I have remeshed the gears and redone PEC, issues persists.
This is a random issue. The Maxim guider log shows some hefty jumps in RA
but NOT in DEC.
It is curious that prior to shutdown it worked like a champ...now...some issues with a number of images that
are just out of round enough as to be useless, in RA. It is always in RA.
I have looked for rodent damage,
none.
I am suspecting something with guiding, easiest is weird guider cable, maybe the guider plug on the camera.
Anyone else seen this or have thoughts? I know this is about as broad as "gee doc, I have a
headache"...could be anything.
AP driver number is 5.09.07.
Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com
Mike J. Shade Photography:
mshadephotography.com
In War: Resolution
In Defeat: Defiance
In Victory: Magnanimity
In Peace: Goodwill
Sir Winston Churchill
Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.
Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west. Can it be
half
a year since I watched her April rising in the east? Low in the
southwest
Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...
Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights
International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org <http://www.darksky.org/>
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Hi Mike, But, on this topic, if I were to want to bypass the guider relays...to rule that out...
Setup Maxim 5.18 to guide via ASCOM direct. As I am using The Sky 6... in the mix here, along with ACP, and an older version of Focusmax do I need to configure anything with the "observatory control window" in Maxim or just use the AP ASCOM driver? Maxim's help mentions this, but it doesn't look like I need to do so for ASCOM direct. I have nothing configured in the now, rather not add another layer of complexity if not needed. It's been a long time since I used Maxim 5.x, but I don't think you want to use "ASCOM Direct". You want "Telescope", and you need to setup the Telescope to use the Astro-Physics ASCOM driver in the observatory window, *and* you need to connect to the driver in the Observatory window. If you don't connect, then I don't think Maxim will be able to use the driver. Thanks Ray. I think when I tried this before it was ASCOM direct and I think that bypasses The Sky 6. If I recall, it worked (calibrated) but there was some issue in regards to proper guiding corrections or something. I would prefer, if possible to not have another layer of software in the system...already have Focusmax/Maxim/Sky 6/ACP. Up until I restarted after monsoon shutdown, it was a good system, generated good data. Perhaps others, with direct experience can chime in. I hate to have to reinvent the wheel. Would calibration be about the same as for guiding through the relays, looking for a movement of 40 pixels or so? I can't tell you how many pixels movement should occur as that depends on image scale, guider rate, and duration of exposure. However, if you do, say, 20 seconds per axis, that should be good enough. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.comAuthor of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriverAuthor of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.comAuthor of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma-----Original Message----- From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 1:48 PM To: ap-gto@... Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Some odd RA issues/configure ASCOM?
No, it is not an ASCOM driver issue. Not 100% sure that it is an autoguiding issue either but in my mind at least it very well could be.
But, on this topic, if I were to want to bypass the guider relays...to rule that out...
Setup Maxim 5.18 to guide via ASCOM direct. As I am using The Sky 6... in the mix here, along with ACP, and an older version of Focusmax do I need to configure anything with the "observatory control window" in Maxim or just use the AP ASCOM driver? Maxim's help mentions this, but it doesn't look like I need to do so for ASCOM direct. I have nothing configured in the now, rather not add another layer of complexity if not needed.
Would calibration be about the same as for guiding through the relays, looking for a movement of 40 pixels or so?
In the AP ASCOM driver, would I guide at 1X, .5X, or .25X? I currently guide at 1X with the relays.
What about aggressiveness during guiding? With the relays run 6 to 6.5, similar or...? Run this higher? I seem to have a recollection that the issue was that the scope was getting sent corrections or something when I tried this before but might not have had it setup right.
Anything else I am missing here?
Thanks...
Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com
Mike J. Shade Photography:
mshadephotography.com
In War: Resolution
In Defeat: Defiance
In Victory: Magnanimity
In Peace: Goodwill
Sir Winston Churchill
Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.
Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west. Can it be half
a year since I watched her April rising in the east? Low in the southwest
Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...
Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights
International Dark Sky Association: <http://www.darksky.org/> www.darksky.org
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 12:59 PM To: ap-gto@... Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Some odd RA issues?
Yes (or through whatever the native STL6303E uses for guiding). Ok, in that case the ASCOM driver is not involved in this autoguiding issue. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
-----Original Message----- From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 12:31 PM To: ap-gto@... Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Some odd RA issues?
Yes (or through whatever the native STL6303E uses for guiding). I did try guiding through ASCOM direct or whatever it was, didn't seem to work
very well if I recall. There seemed to be an issue with corrections being
sent to the mount. It may have been as simple of not knowing the right
settings for that configuration. Not running USB to the mount, USB of course to
the camera.
A finicky guider relay might account for this though. The system calibrates
just fine with a 40+ pixel movement in both RA and DEC. I have replaced the
guider dongle on the camera and will try another guider cable. Over the years have seen guider cables do weird and unexpected things.
Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com
Mike J. Shade Photography:
mshadephotography.com
In War: Resolution
In Defeat: Defiance
In Victory: Magnanimity
In Peace: Goodwill
Sir Winston Churchill
Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.
Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west. Can it be
half a year since I watched her April rising in the east? Low in the
southwest Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...
Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights
International Dark Sky Association: <http://www.darksky.org/> www.darksky.org
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 11:08 AM To: ap-gto@... Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Some odd RA issues?
Hi Mike,
I am suspecting something with guiding, easiest is weird guider cable, maybe the guider plug on the camera. Are you autoguiding through relays?
-Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
-----Original Message----- From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:58 AM To: ap-gto@... Subject: [ap-gto] Some odd RA issues?
Here is the scenario: AP1600GTO permanent in observatory with CP4 controller, Planewave CDK17, Optec
Gemini focuser-rotator/SBIG STL6303E camera, unbinned resolution .64"/pixel. Running Maxim 5.18 and
ACP. So far so good. Now here is where it gets curious. As I am in SE AZ,
had to shut down for monsoon
from early July to middle of September. All electronics were
unplugged, I
do not suspect lightning damage.
Prior to shutdown in July this system returned round stars across the frame in 10-minute subs, guided.
After starting up again in September, noticed that the stars were ever
so
slightly off in RA, maybe a pixel or
two, just enough to be not quite round, again in RA only. However, images
in RA last night showed several
frames where there were actually double stars. Looking at the guider log showed some pretty good jumps in
RA. The guider calibrates just fine with a 40+/ pixel move, and I have been able to do a 5-minute unguided
with round stars after startup in September. Of course checked primary mirror spacing, collimation, if
everything is snug, cable drag and so on. I have remeshed the gears
and redone PEC, issues persists.
This is a random issue. The Maxim guider log shows some hefty jumps in RA
but NOT in DEC.
It is curious that prior to shutdown it worked like a
champ...now...some issues with a number of images that
are just out of round enough as to be useless, in RA. It is always in RA.
I have looked for rodent damage,
none.
I am suspecting something with guiding, easiest is weird guider cable, maybe the guider plug on the camera.
Anyone else seen this or have thoughts? I know this is about as broad
as "gee doc, I have a
headache"...could be anything.
AP driver number is 5.09.07.
Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com
Mike J. Shade Photography:
mshadephotography.com
In War: Resolution
In Defeat: Defiance
In Victory: Magnanimity
In Peace: Goodwill
Sir Winston Churchill
Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on
their lights.
Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west. Can it be
half
a year since I watched her April rising in the east? Low in the
southwest
Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...
Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights
International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org <http://www.darksky.org/>
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You can use ascom direct. It's for those that don't have a telescope setup in the observatory control window.
Telescope uses the telescope you have setup in the observatory control window.
Dave
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