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Re: Mach2 quick update

Roland Christen
 

Great suggestions!

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Socarras <tgrick@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 6:20 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 quick update

Name it after any of the rovers!  Perseverance, Endurance certainly come to mind.  Something new might work even better!  Let's see:  Clarity or Vision.  Hey, if my telescope (a Stowaway) can have a name why not a mount!   Maybe Dauntless ?  :-)  All kidding aside I do have a name that comes to mind...Roamer!  This is the name I gave my Shar pei, Chow and Akita mix.  Wonderful dog and yes, he would love to Roam!  That's my vote!  Mach 2 Roamer!


Re: Mach2 quick update

Lawrence Lopez
 

I don't know.
I was thinking 130GTX at Mach2 sounded pretty cool.


On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 7:20 PM Rick Socarras <tgrick@...> wrote:
Name it after any of the rovers!  Perseverance, Endurance certainly come to mind.  Something new might work even better!  Let's see:  Clarity or Vision.  Hey, if my telescope (a Stowaway) can have a name why not a mount!   Maybe Dauntless ?  :-)  All kidding aside I do have a name that comes to mind...Roamer!  This is the name I gave my Shar pei, Chow and Akita mix.  Wonderful dog and yes, he would love to Roam!  That's my vote!  Mach 2 Roamer!


Re: Mach2 quick update

Rick Socarras
 

Name it after any of the rovers!  Perseverance, Endurance certainly come to mind.  Something new might work even better!  Let's see:  Clarity or Vision.  Hey, if my telescope (a Stowaway) can have a name why not a mount!   Maybe Dauntless ?  :-)  All kidding aside I do have a name that comes to mind...Roamer!  This is the name I gave my Shar pei, Chow and Akita mix.  Wonderful dog and yes, he would love to Roam!  That's my vote!  Mach 2 Roamer!


Re: Dome pier side is wrong with POTH

Max Mirot
 

You are correct. I tried went back to 1.7.1 no difference.

Max


Re: APCC equivalent of hand controller "re-calibrate"?

Geof Lewis
 

Hi Rick,
In the V2 driver there is a check box option to ‘Use RCAL for Syncs’, so just have that box ticked.
Cheers, Geof


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Richard Spencer via groups.io <rgspencer@...>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 8:05 pm
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC equivalent of hand controller "re-calibrate"?
 
Dear All,

I am doing counterweight up imaging to extend tracking time; in the hand controller manual, we are told never to "synch" with CW up, but rather to "re-calibrate" to improve pointing accuracy.

But I'm not using the hand controller; I'm imaging with my computer set-up, with APCC running along with all the other necessary software for acquisition, guiding, ....

Is there an equivalent to "re-calibrate" in APCC (or elsewhere)?  I am trying to improve go-to accuracy in the CW up position.  

Currently, I'm "synching" on some bright star CW down, and slewing to my object with a meridian delay so I achieve CW up, but with marginal accuracy (at best; I have to plate solve to figure out where I am, and this can fail if I'm too far away from the "supposed" RA and Dec coordinates).

Many thanks,

Rick Spencer
Elkton, MD
AP 1100 mount



Re: Mach2 quick update

DFisch
 

Mach 2 Distancing Version -19

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 16:18 uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
How about WLIY (we'll lick it yet)

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Beyer <jcbeyer2001@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 2:48 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 quick update

Coming from a pathology background I wouldn’t saddle anything as great as an A-P mount with such a dubious label. I’d vote for something like “freedom edition”. 

On Apr 10, 2020, at 11:11 AM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


Version V maybe? Or CV-19 perhaps?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Socarras <tgrick@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 quick update

Thank you for the update.  I've never had an issue waiting but this COVID-19 is driving me stir crazy.  It feels good to have something to look forward too.   You might need to add a virus sticker someplace on it so that we never forgot the world this mount was created into.  

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TJF MOBILE


Re: Mach2 quick update

Roland Christen
 

How about WLIY (we'll lick it yet)

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Beyer <jcbeyer2001@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 2:48 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 quick update

Coming from a pathology background I wouldn’t saddle anything as great as an A-P mount with such a dubious label. I’d vote for something like “freedom edition”. 

On Apr 10, 2020, at 11:11 AM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Version V maybe? Or CV-19 perhaps?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Socarras <tgrick@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 quick update

Thank you for the update.  I've never had an issue waiting but this COVID-19 is driving me stir crazy.  It feels good to have something to look forward too.   You might need to add a virus sticker someplace on it so that we never forgot the world this mount was created into.  


Re: APCC equivalent of hand controller "re-calibrate"?

Roland Christen
 

You can "sync" thru APCC, it won't cause a problem even if you are upside down.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Spencer via groups.io <rgspencer@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 2:05 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC equivalent of hand controller "re-calibrate"?

Dear All,

I am doing counterweight up imaging to extend tracking time; in the hand controller manual, we are told never to "synch" with CW up, but rather to "re-calibrate" to improve pointing accuracy.

But I'm not using the hand controller; I'm imaging with my computer set-up, with APCC running along with all the other necessary software for acquisition, guiding, ....

Is there an equivalent to "re-calibrate" in APCC (or elsewhere)?  I am trying to improve go-to accuracy in the CW up position.  

Currently, I'm "synching" on some bright star CW down, and slewing to my object with a meridian delay so I achieve CW up, but with marginal accuracy (at best; I have to plate solve to figure out where I am, and this can fail if I'm too far away from the "supposed" RA and Dec coordinates).

Many thanks,

Rick Spencer
Elkton, MD
AP 1100 mount



Re: Mach2 quick update

Joseph Beyer
 

Coming from a pathology background I wouldn’t saddle anything as great as an A-P mount with such a dubious label. I’d vote for something like “freedom edition”. 

On Apr 10, 2020, at 11:11 AM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Version V maybe? Or CV-19 perhaps?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Socarras <tgrick@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 quick update

Thank you for the update.  I've never had an issue waiting but this COVID-19 is driving me stir crazy.  It feels good to have something to look forward too.   You might need to add a virus sticker someplace on it so that we never forgot the world this mount was created into.  


APCC equivalent of hand controller "re-calibrate"?

Richard Spencer
 

Dear All,

I am doing counterweight up imaging to extend tracking time; in the hand controller manual, we are told never to "synch" with CW up, but rather to "re-calibrate" to improve pointing accuracy.

But I'm not using the hand controller; I'm imaging with my computer set-up, with APCC running along with all the other necessary software for acquisition, guiding, ....

Is there an equivalent to "re-calibrate" in APCC (or elsewhere)?  I am trying to improve go-to accuracy in the CW up position.  

Currently, I'm "synching" on some bright star CW down, and slewing to my object with a meridian delay so I achieve CW up, but with marginal accuracy (at best; I have to plate solve to figure out where I am, and this can fail if I'm too far away from the "supposed" RA and Dec coordinates).

Many thanks,

Rick Spencer
Elkton, MD
AP 1100 mount



Re: Dome pier side is wrong with POTH

Ray Gralak
 

Max,

The dome logic has not changed in APPM for a very long time (several years). Likely something else down the line has changed, like the dome control software.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Max Mirot via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 11:14 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dome pier side is wrong with POTH

I tried passive last night. It did not help.
Is there a way to download older versions of APCC pro?
I would like to install one from early January as a test .

Thanks

Max


Re: Dome pier side is wrong with POTH

Max Mirot
 

I tried passive last night. It did not help.
Is there a way to download older versions of APCC pro?
I would like to install one from early January as a test .

Thanks

Max


Re: Mach2 quick update

Roland Christen
 

Version V maybe? Or CV-19 perhaps?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Socarras <tgrick@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 quick update

Thank you for the update.  I've never had an issue waiting but this COVID-19 is driving me stir crazy.  It feels good to have something to look forward too.   You might need to add a virus sticker someplace on it so that we never forgot the world this mount was created into.  


Re: Mach2 quick update

Rick Socarras
 

Thank you for the update.  I've never had an issue waiting but this COVID-19 is driving me stir crazy.  It feels good to have something to look forward too.   You might need to add a virus sticker someplace on it so that we never forgot the world this mount was created into.  


Re: Autoguiding with a Sky Model in Place?

Roland Christen
 


What I had to remember when switching back and forth was that I had to enable pulse guide for Maxim
In Maxim you want to use "Telescope" for guiding. But you first have to connect to the mount via your USB cable, same as PHD. Click on the little Observatory Dome icon to bring up the Setup window. Press the Telescope Connect button. This will then allow the program to send direct move commands which are more accurate than the Pulse Guide commands.

For setting the guide delays in Maxim, bring up the Guider Settings - Advanced window. Set the "Delay After Corrections" to 2 seconds or 3 seconds. You can also set your Min Move and Max Move in that window.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Hixson via groups.io <wayneh9026@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 10:26 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Autoguiding with a Sky Model in Place?

Spent some time playing with Autoguiding in both PHD2 and MaximDL, adding a 3-second delay between images (not sure in MaximDL as I kind of guessed where to enter that value). Both worked well given seeing condtions, the corrections were smoother and I was under 1". I turned the tracking model on and off and it appeared I was getting better results with it on, although there was enough variance I couldn't swear to it. I ran without for a few minutes and was at 0.9" RMS and then with model it was at about 0.7", however the seeing was not steady and maybe contributing to that variance.  

I did run the autoguide assistant in PHD2 and it raised my minimum move quite a bit, I'll check the exact values later if you're interested. Now it was interesting that MaximDL seemed smoother. I had the graph turned on to show corrections and it appeared the corrections were few and far between. PHD2 on the other hand was making frequent corrections. I'm going to ask on the Maxim forum about how to read the graph and also make sure I know how to set delays.

Anyway I think adding the delay did make a difference

Wayne

What I had to remember when switching back and forth was that I had to enable pulse guide for Maxim and turn it off for PHD2!


Re: Autoguiding with a Sky Model in Place?

Wayne Hixson
 

Spent some time playing with Autoguiding in both PHD2 and MaximDL, adding a 3-second delay between images (not sure in MaximDL as I kind of guessed where to enter that value). Both worked well given seeing condtions, the corrections were smoother and I was under 1". I turned the tracking model on and off and it appeared I was getting better results with it on, although there was enough variance I couldn't swear to it. I ran without for a few minutes and was at 0.9" RMS and then with model it was at about 0.7", however the seeing was not steady and maybe contributing to that variance.  

I did run the autoguide assistant in PHD2 and it raised my minimum move quite a bit, I'll check the exact values later if you're interested. Now it was interesting that MaximDL seemed smoother. I had the graph turned on to show corrections and it appeared the corrections were few and far between. PHD2 on the other hand was making frequent corrections. I'm going to ask on the Maxim forum about how to read the graph and also make sure I know how to set delays.

Anyway I think adding the delay did make a difference

Wayne

What I had to remember when switching back and forth was that I had to enable pulse guide for Maxim and turn it off for PHD2!


Mach2 quick update

Roland Christen
 

Hi Astronuts,

Just a quick update on the progress of Mach2 mounts. We are still working at AP to get mounts out the door. Although the factory itself is shut down for now, we have a number of employees working at home assembling parts and sub-assemblies for the mounts. Fortunately our suppliers are still able to ship parts such as motors, bearings, gears, fasteners, so we are in good shape there. I'm doing all the final assemblies and testing, which is coming right along. We should be able to ship more out in the coming week, so please be patient.

Meanwhile I am also testing the mounts under real sky conditions with a fairly big scope and camera so I can make some guidelines on the best way to do guided and unguided imaging. More on that later.

Roland Christen
Astro-Physics Inc.


Re: Autoguiding with a Sky Model in Place?

Ray Gralak
 

Wayne, yes you can and should leave tracking rate correction on.

You might be able to track ISS but the computer time has to be perfect and ISS not have changed course after you acquire coordinates for it.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Wayne Hixson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 6:36 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Autoguiding with a Sky Model in Place?

Ray would I still leave tracking correction on while using Horizons?

Just tried Horizons for tracking the BepiColumbo mission. Got it to work but would have to cut down a number of
trees and neighbors house!

Can you use that for ISS passes? What time units would work?

Wayne
On Apr 9, 2020, at 6:22 PM, Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com> wrote:



PS another model related question - do you turn it off when doing lunar or solar imaging?
Yes, would have to as it would override the lunar/solar setting.

A better option is to use Horizons (the application included with APCC) to get the dual axis motions of the moon
or sun. Then tracking will be much more accurate than the mount's built in solar/lunar rates.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


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Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 12:44 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Autoguiding with a Sky Model in Place?

PS another model related question - do you turn it off when doing lunar or solar imaging?




Re: Autoguiding with a Sky Model in Place?

Wayne Hixson
 

Ray would I still leave tracking correction on while using Horizons?

Just tried Horizons for tracking the BepiColumbo mission. Got it to work but would have to cut down a number of trees and neighbors house!

Can you use that for ISS passes? What time units would work?

Wayne

On Apr 9, 2020, at 6:22 PM, Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com> wrote:



PS another model related question - do you turn it off when doing lunar or solar imaging?
Yes, would have to as it would override the lunar/solar setting.

A better option is to use Horizons (the application included with APCC) to get the dual axis motions of the moon or sun. Then tracking will be much more accurate than the mount's built in solar/lunar rates.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Wayne Hixson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 12:44 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Autoguiding with a Sky Model in Place?

PS another model related question - do you turn it off when doing lunar or solar imaging?



Re: Autoguiding with a Sky Model in Place?

Ray Gralak
 

PS another model related question - do you turn it off when doing lunar or solar imaging?
Yes, would have to as it would override the lunar/solar setting.

A better option is to use Horizons (the application included with APCC) to get the dual axis motions of the moon or sun. Then tracking will be much more accurate than the mount's built in solar/lunar rates.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Wayne Hixson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 12:44 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Autoguiding with a Sky Model in Place?

PS another model related question - do you turn it off when doing lunar or solar imaging?

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