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Re: Mach2 and PHD2 Guiding recommendations

Dominique Durand
 

Hi Dean,
nice curve, but I think it's the least of things with this frame.
But "No modeling or other fancy stuff yet.", I personally went for my 130GT without guidance.
  Frame received Wednesday 6 p.m., Thursday 1st modeling of 35 points and conclusive tests ... Friday clouds ... Yesterday Saturday 2nd modeling 86 points, with a small series of photos on M109 (cropped version) and a checking of pointing ... the score seems pretty good to me and I still have to know if with the return of deviations below 0.65 arc.min this is correct.
But without guidance last night, here, with 14 exposures of 6, 'what I get with my AP130 GT and a QHY294c (recent for me).
No longer having to guide is only happiness.
Dominique


Re: Mach2 and PHD2 Guiding recommendations

Dean Jacobsen
 

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:33 AM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> wrote:
It's really quite simple.
 
1) Set a delay of 2 to 3 seconds between guide exposures. No need to chase gear errors because there aren't any.
2) use whatever exposure time you want to get a good signal/noise ratio (usually from 1 to 5 seconds)
3) use Guiding assistant to gauge the seeing and set your MinMove to what is recommended.
4) depending on seeing, the aggressiveness can be set between 50% to 90%.
 
Be sure that your guide scope focal length is set properly in PHD2 in the scope setup window.
 
Then image away.
 
Rolando
OK, the Mach2 arrived Friday and I took a trip out to the observatory last night. 

Had been able to update my ASCOM/AP Driver/PHD2/SGP software and driver stack.  TheSkyX connects.  APCC Pro was set up and functioning.

No modeling or other fancy stuff yet.

Here is a segment of guiding after the sequence completed and there weren't any dithers for a while.


 
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/ 
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

Bill Long
 

Sweet, thanks for the link. Ordered. 🙂 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of W Hilmo <y.groups@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 4:45 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users
 

I just ordered these from Amazon and crimped PowerPoles on them.  It was a simple way to make a no-solder adapter that allows me to plug in my UPBv2 into a RigRunner.

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BF8154S

 

-Wade

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charles Thompson via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

 

Personal, I was glad that it used the XT-60 since it is more common, easy to aquire, cheap and works extremely well.  They became popular after the RC community switched from the T style (Deans) connectors to them. I have started using those as well as the XT-30 and XT-90 connectors for all sorts of things. 

 

The only problem some might have is that they require soldering. I prefer solder and almost always have a TS100 with me. 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks,

Charles

 

Sent from mobile device.

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Bill Long <bill@...>

Date: 5/23/20 3:58 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

 

II dont mind crimping PowerPoles, and I have a drawer full of the stuff to easily make them. I dont have any XT60 connectors on hand, and honestly had never heard of them before I bought this box.

 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Dominique Durand via groups.io <dom33.durand@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

 

On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 09:28 PM, Bill Long wrote:

My only minor pet peeve about the UPBv2 is that they did not put an Anderson connector on the box and used the XT60 connector instead. Considering the wide usage and popularity of the Anderson connector, you would think they would have used that instead. 

And yes, Bill, you have to make the cable !!!!


Re: Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

W Hilmo
 

Didn’t you have the same PowerBox on the Mach2 at AIC?  It was mounted between the two side-by-side scopes.

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:27 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

 

Who makes this Powerbox2?

 

Rolando

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dominique Durand via groups.io <dom33.durand@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, May 23, 2020 12:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

Hello dan,

This is an element to take into account, but the powerbox is not a big computer and from what I see it does not really heat up.

Dominique


Re: Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

W Hilmo
 

I just ordered these from Amazon and crimped PowerPoles on them.  It was a simple way to make a no-solder adapter that allows me to plug in my UPBv2 into a RigRunner.

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BF8154S

 

-Wade

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charles Thompson via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

 

Personal, I was glad that it used the XT-60 since it is more common, easy to aquire, cheap and works extremely well.  They became popular after the RC community switched from the T style (Deans) connectors to them. I have started using those as well as the XT-30 and XT-90 connectors for all sorts of things. 

 

The only problem some might have is that they require soldering. I prefer solder and almost always have a TS100 with me. 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks,

Charles

 

Sent from mobile device.

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Bill Long <bill@...>

Date: 5/23/20 3:58 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

 

II dont mind crimping PowerPoles, and I have a drawer full of the stuff to easily make them. I dont have any XT60 connectors on hand, and honestly had never heard of them before I bought this box.

 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Dominique Durand via groups.io <dom33.durand@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

 

On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 09:28 PM, Bill Long wrote:

My only minor pet peeve about the UPBv2 is that they did not put an Anderson connector on the box and used the XT60 connector instead. Considering the wide usage and popularity of the Anderson connector, you would think they would have used that instead. 

And yes, Bill, you have to make the cable !!!!


Re: Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

Charles Thompson
 

Personal, I was glad that it used the XT-60 since it is more common, easy to aquire, cheap and works extremely well.  They became popular after the RC community switched from the T style (Deans) connectors to them. I have started using those as well as the XT-30 and XT-90 connectors for all sorts of things. 

The only problem some might have is that they require soldering. I prefer solder and almost always have a TS100 with me. 





Thanks,
Charles

Sent from mobile device.


-------- Original message --------
From: Bill Long <bill@...>
Date: 5/23/20 3:58 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

II dont mind crimping PowerPoles, and I have a drawer full of the stuff to easily make them. I dont have any XT60 connectors on hand, and honestly had never heard of them before I bought this box.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Dominique Durand via groups.io <dom33.durand@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users
 
On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 09:28 PM, Bill Long wrote:
My only minor pet peeve about the UPBv2 is that they did not put an Anderson connector on the box and used the XT60 connector instead. Considering the wide usage and popularity of the Anderson connector, you would think they would have used that instead. 
And yes, Bill, you have to make the cable !!!!


Re: APCC Pro 1.8.1.1 update #APCC

Dominique Durand
 

On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 04:39 PM, Ray Gralak wrote:
Hi Dominique,

You may be looking at two different rate types:

The fastest slew (Go To) rate is 1800x on the Mach 2.
The fastest move (button) rate is 1200x on the Mach 2.
OK Ray and therefore by setting set slew rate custom in the Inizialise window.


Re: Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

Bill Long
 

II dont mind crimping PowerPoles, and I have a drawer full of the stuff to easily make them. I dont have any XT60 connectors on hand, and honestly had never heard of them before I bought this box.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Dominique Durand via groups.io <dom33.durand@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users
 
On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 09:28 PM, Bill Long wrote:
My only minor pet peeve about the UPBv2 is that they did not put an Anderson connector on the box and used the XT60 connector instead. Considering the wide usage and popularity of the Anderson connector, you would think they would have used that instead. 
And yes, Bill, you have to make the cable !!!!


Re: Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

Dominique Durand
 

On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 09:28 PM, Bill Long wrote:
My only minor pet peeve about the UPBv2 is that they did not put an Anderson connector on the box and used the XT60 connector instead. Considering the wide usage and popularity of the Anderson connector, you would think they would have used that instead. 
And yes, Bill, you have to make the cable !!!!


Re: APCC/APPM Log Cleanup

Bill Long
 

All good. I will just set a scheduled task to run a PS1 script to clean it up for now. Would be good to have something built in though, especially for folks that are largely hands off and remote. 🙂 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Ray Gralak <groups3@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC/APPM Log Cleanup
 
Hi Bill,

There isn't something now, but that's a good idea. You can just sort the folder by date and delete any (or all) logs that you want.
There's also the Backups folder, which won't use nearly as much disk space, but might have lots of backup files you might never use.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.astro-physics.com%2Fapcc-pro&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C1fe011f5dc4749c2640108d7ff50ea71%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637258595300722397&amp;sdata=2IIY%2BeeG2KZc5PfG9I9Oh4QqMBXfsZ4DgONsLeGuB%2FE%3D&amp;reserved=0
Author of PEMPro V3:  https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ccdware.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C1fe011f5dc4749c2640108d7ff50ea71%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637258595300722397&amp;sdata=PaXw5coOXWt5ZpH9fA26o0ChlDDIajNqdGn62uwXT88%3D&amp;reserved=0
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.siriusimaging.com%2Fapdriver&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C1fe011f5dc4749c2640108d7ff50ea71%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637258595300732392&amp;sdata=5LTINf7WQRk%2FKCcwkBSs54qWrwSy0g3vIkiUKowj3ns%3D&amp;reserved=0


> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Long
> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:34 AM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
> Subject: [ap-gto] APCC/APPM Log Cleanup
>
> Hey all,
>
> Other than going into the logs folder manually for APPC/APPM, is there a way to tell the programs to clean up
> after a certain number of days? I was cleaning up drive space on a MiniPC I use for astro, and found about
> 45GB of space was being used by APCC Logs and APPM Pointing model data from runs in C:\Program
> Data\Astro-Physics. I could take care of this with a simple script, but if there is a way to auto-magically take
> care of this, I would prefer to set that up.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
>





Re: APCC/APPM Log Cleanup

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Bill,

There isn't something now, but that's a good idea. You can just sort the folder by date and delete any (or all) logs that you want.
There's also the Backups folder, which won't use nearly as much disk space, but might have lots of backup files you might never use.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Long
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:34 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC/APPM Log Cleanup

Hey all,

Other than going into the logs folder manually for APPC/APPM, is there a way to tell the programs to clean up
after a certain number of days? I was cleaning up drive space on a MiniPC I use for astro, and found about
45GB of space was being used by APCC Logs and APPM Pointing model data from runs in C:\Program
Data\Astro-Physics. I could take care of this with a simple script, but if there is a way to auto-magically take
care of this, I would prefer to set that up.

Thanks,
Bill


Re: Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

Bill Long
 

My only minor pet peeve about the UPBv2 is that they did not put an Anderson connector on the box and used the XT60 connector instead. Considering the wide usage and popularity of the Anderson connector, you would think they would have used that instead. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Don Anderson via groups.io <jockey_ca@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:45 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users
 
Yes. They make a wide variety of innovative accessories. I just purchased their powered 6 port USB3 hub. Operates down to -40C unlike most consumer and commercial grade hubs which quit working at about 0 deg C. It also has control software which allows you to switch each port individually. Great for when you need to reboot connected devices individually and remotely. I highly recommend this as well.

Don Anderson


On Saturday, May 23, 2020, 12:30:35 p.m. MDT, Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:


Pegasus Astro. Its probably the best accessory that has come out for imaging.


Highly recommend it. 🙂 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:27 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users
 
Who makes this Powerbox2?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Dominique Durand via groups.io <dom33.durand@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, May 23, 2020 12:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

Hello dan,

This is an element to take into account, but the powerbox is not a big computer and from what I see it does not really heat up.

Dominique


Re: Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

Dominique Durand
 

On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 08:29 PM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> wrote:
Who makes this Powerbox2?
Pegasusastro.
I raised the subject with George who apparently tested it.

Dominique


Re: Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

Don Anderson
 

Yes. They make a wide variety of innovative accessories. I just purchased their powered 6 port USB3 hub. Operates down to -40C unlike most consumer and commercial grade hubs which quit working at about 0 deg C. It also has control software which allows you to switch each port individually. Great for when you need to reboot connected devices individually and remotely. I highly recommend this as well.

Don Anderson


On Saturday, May 23, 2020, 12:30:35 p.m. MDT, Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:


Pegasus Astro. Its probably the best accessory that has come out for imaging.


Highly recommend it. 🙂 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:27 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users
 
Who makes this Powerbox2?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Dominique Durand via groups.io <dom33.durand@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, May 23, 2020 12:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

Hello dan,

This is an element to take into account, but the powerbox is not a big computer and from what I see it does not really heat up.

Dominique


APCC/APPM Log Cleanup

Bill Long
 

Hey all,

Other than going into the logs folder manually for APPC/APPM, is there a way to tell the programs to clean up after a certain number of days? I was cleaning up drive space on a MiniPC I use for astro, and found about 45GB of space was being used by APCC Logs and APPM Pointing model data from runs in C:\Program Data\Astro-Physics. I could take care of this with a simple script, but if there is a way to auto-magically take care of this, I would prefer to set that up.

Thanks,
Bill


Re: Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

Bill Long
 

Pegasus Astro. Its probably the best accessory that has come out for imaging.


Highly recommend it. 🙂 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:27 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users
 
Who makes this Powerbox2?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Dominique Durand via groups.io <dom33.durand@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, May 23, 2020 12:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

Hello dan,

This is an element to take into account, but the powerbox is not a big computer and from what I see it does not really heat up.

Dominique


Re: Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

Roland Christen
 

Who makes this Powerbox2?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Dominique Durand via groups.io <dom33.durand@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, May 23, 2020 12:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

Hello dan,

This is an element to take into account, but the powerbox is not a big computer and from what I see it does not really heat up.

Dominique


Re: Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

Dominique Durand
 

Hello dan,

This is an element to take into account, but the powerbox is not a big computer and from what I see it does not really heat up.

Dominique


Re: Any Tips From Experienced Mach2 Users

dan kowall
 

Hello Dominique,
Congratulations on your purchase.
Do you have any reservations about having the heat from your power box disturbing the air in front of your telescope's objective lens?

dan kowall

On Friday, May 22, 2020, 06:32:41 PM EDT, Dominique Durand via groups.io <dom33.durand@...> wrote:


[Edited Message Follows]

Hi guys,
Mach2 received Wednesday at the end of the afternoon, tested in the lounge on the Eagle tripod, then installed the same evening in my observatory. RAPAS to roughly align (then disassemble), then by drift with PHD2. No worries with the latest version of the driver and APCC-pro.I even started to see how to model, but little problems with APPM / SGP connection. The next day I found the solution: open SGP as administrator. So Thursday evening, first successful 35-point modeling after some "no solve" because Arcsec / pix badly configured.Then photo test (3x10 ') on M109 without apparent drift, but the passage of satellites and (2x5') on Spica where there was clearly still drift. I am now waiting for the least amount of clouds to redo a modeling with more points and then a verification.And I also fully understood that if I bought this frame it was to do without guidance.For information, I installed a powerbox v2, but under the DOVELM162 plate and at the front with a fixed wiring which allows it to stay in place in case of tube change.

Dominique


Re: Mach2 transport case

Dominique Durand
 

Hi Dean,

My mach2 is scheduled to stay in the fixed position, because I have a mach1 for walking. For this mach1 I used the Geoptik bag (Red) provided for EQ6 and I installed part of the protections of the original packaging reworked there. The mach1 lodges in park3 with its plate and I lodge there also RAPAS Price / lightness + protection + unbeatable size.
For the mach2 with the same frame it could certainly fit with only 49 to 51 lbs to carry. That is studied.

Dominique

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