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Re: Mach 1 Grease

Mike Dodd
 

On 5/11/2020 12:36 PM, thefamily90 Phillips wrote:
What grease do you recommend to re-grease the gears with?
Call A-P and order the grease kit. It comes with two different greases, a brush, and complete instructions.

--- Mike


Re: Mach 1 Grease

George
 

Cytan,

 

I sent the instructions to you.

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cheng-Yang Tan via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:16 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease

 

Hi George,

 

    Wow, I didn't realize that it is an annual to biennial affair! If you can post a link to instructions, I should start working on it.

 

cytan

 

 

On Monday, May 11, 2020, 10:59:00 AM CDT, George <george@...> wrote:

 

 

Cytan,

 

Roland may have a better recommendation, but the environment also plays a big part…hot and dusty is bad.    Every year or two in normal conditions would be a healthy approach.   Death Valley observatories may want to consider every six months.   <G>

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cheng-Yang Tan via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 10:21 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease

 

Hi George,

   How many hours of use do you recommend between regreasing? I do log the hours that my mounts operate, so a time interval would be useful. Or how can I tell whether the mount needs to be regreased?

 

Thanks!

cytan

 

On Monday, May 11, 2020, 10:11:58 AM CDT, George <george@...> wrote:

 

 

Clean off the old grease using a toothbrush and soft cloth.   Mineral spirits can be used for a thorough cleaning, but you must then clean off the mineral spirits residue with denatured alcohol so that it doesn’t break down the new grease.  

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of thefamily90 Phillips
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:06 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease

 

What did you use to clean off the old grease?

 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Joe Brooks <jrb258@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 12:44:53 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease

 

After six years of moderate use, I re-greased the mount gears. The photos show the original grease on the the worm and ring gears.


Re: Mach 1 Grease

thefamily90 Phillips
 

What grease do you recommend to re-grease the gears with?

Jim


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Michael Hambrick via groups.io <mike.hambrick@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:28:54 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease
 
It would be interesting to know how often Chris Erickson regreases the A-P mounts at the Mauna Kea Visitor Center. We visited there last year and all of the mounts had a pretty good coating of red lava dust which is pretty abrasive.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...


Re: Mach 1 Grease

Michael Hambrick <mike.hambrick@...>
 

It would be interesting to know how often Chris Erickson regreases the A-P mounts at the Mauna Kea Visitor Center. We visited there last year and all of the mounts had a pretty good coating of red lava dust which is pretty abrasive.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...


Re: What are the advantages of the APCC Pro

Michael Hambrick <mike.hambrick@...>
 

Hi Steve

Good to know that the fit on your mount and pier is good. I have to think about getting one of the flat plate adapters for my pier. I am still using the original 8-inch pier that I bought with my 800 mount in 1992 and the fit of the 1100 mount base is pretty sloppy. It was not long after I got my 1100 mount that I noticed that the mount base would tilt about 1/16" after the counterweights and scope were installed. You can see the gap between the base of the mount and the top of the pier in the picture below.

I have mostly solved the problem by hand scraping the top of the pier to make it perfectly flat and then upgraded to NORD-LOCK washers. I may eventually install some dowel pins to positively hold the mount base in position on the pier.
 




Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...


Re: Mach 1 Grease

Cheng-Yang Tan
 

Hi George,

    Wow, I didn't realize that it is an annual to biennial affair! If you can post a link to instructions, I should start working on it.

cytan


On Monday, May 11, 2020, 10:59:00 AM CDT, George <george@...> wrote:


Cytan,

 

Roland may have a better recommendation, but the environment also plays a big part…hot and dusty is bad.    Every year or two in normal conditions would be a healthy approach.   Death Valley observatories may want to consider every six months.   <G>

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cheng-Yang Tan via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 10:21 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease

 

Hi George,

   How many hours of use do you recommend between regreasing? I do log the hours that my mounts operate, so a time interval would be useful. Or how can I tell whether the mount needs to be regreased?

 

Thanks!

cytan

 

On Monday, May 11, 2020, 10:11:58 AM CDT, George <george@...> wrote:

 

 

Clean off the old grease using a toothbrush and soft cloth.   Mineral spirits can be used for a thorough cleaning, but you must then clean off the mineral spirits residue with denatured alcohol so that it doesn’t break down the new grease.  

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of thefamily90 Phillips
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:06 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease

 

What did you use to clean off the old grease?

 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Joe Brooks <jrb258@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 12:44:53 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease

 

After six years of moderate use, I re-greased the mount gears. The photos show the original grease on the the worm and ring gears.


Re: Mach 1 Grease

George
 

Cytan,

 

Roland may have a better recommendation, but the environment also plays a big part…hot and dusty is bad.    Every year or two in normal conditions would be a healthy approach.   Death Valley observatories may want to consider every six months.   <G>

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cheng-Yang Tan via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 10:21 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease

 

Hi George,

   How many hours of use do you recommend between regreasing? I do log the hours that my mounts operate, so a time interval would be useful. Or how can I tell whether the mount needs to be regreased?

 

Thanks!

cytan

 

On Monday, May 11, 2020, 10:11:58 AM CDT, George <george@...> wrote:

 

 

Clean off the old grease using a toothbrush and soft cloth.   Mineral spirits can be used for a thorough cleaning, but you must then clean off the mineral spirits residue with denatured alcohol so that it doesn’t break down the new grease.  

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of thefamily90 Phillips
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:06 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease

 

What did you use to clean off the old grease?

 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Joe Brooks <jrb258@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 12:44:53 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease

 

After six years of moderate use, I re-greased the mount gears. The photos show the original grease on the the worm and ring gears.


Re: Mach 1 Grease

Michael Hambrick <mike.hambrick@...>
 

I would highly recommend not using any kind of solvent to clean off the old grease. It is virtually impossible to get rid of all of the residual solvent short of baking the gears in an oven (think desiccant recharging in your CCD cameras). Even a tiny amount of residual solvent will cause the grease to thin out.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...


Re: Mach 1 Grease

Ken Browne
 

Is there a documented procedure for the re-greasing the mount gears?


Re: What are the advantages of the APCC Pro

Steve C. Mitchell, Sr., O.D.
 

Hey Michael,
I did use the internal tooth lock washers on my pier extension, just in case. The steel plate is nice and flat with no wobble in the flat plate adapter or telescope base sitting on it. I'll see about getting some photos of my adapter and put them up here, but not before I figure out what the heck is wrong with my exchange server and groups.io. 

Steve


Re: Mach 1 Grease

Cheng-Yang Tan
 

Hi George,
   How many hours of use do you recommend between regreasing? I do log the hours that my mounts operate, so a time interval would be useful. Or how can I tell whether the mount needs to be regreased?

Thanks!

cytan

On Monday, May 11, 2020, 10:11:58 AM CDT, George <george@...> wrote:


Clean off the old grease using a toothbrush and soft cloth.   Mineral spirits can be used for a thorough cleaning, but you must then clean off the mineral spirits residue with denatured alcohol so that it doesn’t break down the new grease.  

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of thefamily90 Phillips
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:06 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease

 

What did you use to clean off the old grease?

 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Joe Brooks <jrb258@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 12:44:53 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease

 

After six years of moderate use, I re-greased the mount gears. The photos show the original grease on the the worm and ring gears.


Re: What are the advantages of the APCC Pro

Steve C. Mitchell, Sr., O.D.
 

Sorry for such a long delay in replying, for some reason I can't send emails to the group anymore and most of the time iogroups tells me I don't have any groups to check or respond to; wierd!
Thanks Peter,
Sorry to hear your issue with the program, thanks for the advice.
Steve


Re: Mach 1 Grease

George
 

Clean off the old grease using a toothbrush and soft cloth.   Mineral spirits can be used for a thorough cleaning, but you must then clean off the mineral spirits residue with denatured alcohol so that it doesn’t break down the new grease.  

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of thefamily90 Phillips
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:06 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease

 

What did you use to clean off the old grease?

 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Joe Brooks <jrb258@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 12:44:53 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease

 

After six years of moderate use, I re-greased the mount gears. The photos show the original grease on the the worm and ring gears.


Re: Mach 1 Grease

Roland Christen
 

You can use mineral spirits.

Roland



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Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 9:05 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease

What did you use to clean off the old grease?


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Joe Brooks <jrb258@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 12:44:53 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease
 
After six years of moderate use, I re-greased the mount gears. The photos show the original grease on the the worm and ring gears.


Re: Mach 1 Grease

thefamily90 Phillips
 

What did you use to clean off the old grease?


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Joe Brooks <jrb258@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 12:44:53 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Mach 1 Grease
 
After six years of moderate use, I re-greased the mount gears. The photos show the original grease on the the worm and ring gears.


Re: APPM feature requests

Ray Gralak
 

I noticed that when I loaded the West model the East Values are preserved but there is no list or graph. Are East
Values still active for pointing and tracking?
Is there a way cut and paste East and West models ?
No, and No. Just take the time to do a full model.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Max Mirot via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 6:39 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APPM feature requests

I noticed that when I loaded the West model the East Values are preserved but there is no list or graph. Are East
Values still active for pointing and tracking?
Is there a way cut and paste East and West models ?
Thanks
Max


Re: APPM feature requests

Max Mirot
 

I noticed that when I loaded the West model the East Values are preserved but there is no list or graph. Are East Values still active for pointing and tracking?
Is there a way cut and paste East and West models ?
Thanks
Max


Re: APPM feature requests

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Max,

3) Try collecting data for a model at a different time. : I am not sure what you mean on 3.
I meant, if it’s cloudy then try the mapping run another time when it’s less cloudy. :-) If the moon is out you may lose one or two points maximum, so it's really not that much of a factor. If the scope has a narrow field of view then the likelihood of a mapping point landing on the moon or very close to it is small.

If you doing a big model dense model it can take time especially with a slow dome. I get about 1 point per minute or less even when using the HA option.
A slow moving dome is problematic. Try increasing Dec spacing and reducing RA spacing. That might help improve speed in this case.

Is there a way cut and paste East and West models ?
No... and I would not advise trying that. It probably won't work well because it won't take into account the starting RA/Dec offsets of the initial reference plate solve.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Max Mirot via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 1:39 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APPM feature requests

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 11:15 AM, Ray Gralak wrote:
Hi Max,
1) Retry failed pointing image at the end of the APPM run.
Passing clouds and the Moon sometime affect more image than I like to see.
That's been on the "to do" list for some time, but A-P has to approve a new feature like this.
Paging Rolando . This is an easy call...
It has been low priority since the workarounds include:

1) Use the points you have.
2) Configure more points to start with to account for lost points.
3) Try collecting data for a model at a different time. : I am not sure what you mean on 3.
2)Someway to load prior pointing files.
You can do that already from APCC in the pointing model window.
3) Able to run and load East and West APPM indepentantly.
I would like to run east and west mapping on at another time or another night.
What's the use case? Usually you can plate solve 2-3 points per minute and start before it's dark enough to image. That should be enough for both pier sides.
If you doing a big model dense model it can take time especially with a slow dome. I get about 1 point per minute or less even when using the HA option.
A four point model will take all night.
I noticed that when I loaded the West model the East Values are preserved but there is no list or graph. Are East Values still active for pointing and tracking?
Is there a way cut and paste East and West models ?
Thanks
Max

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Max Mirot via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 7:17 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] APPM feature requests


I think these might be helpful to add.

1) Retry failed pointing image at the end of the APPM run.
Passing clouds and the Moon sometime affect more image than I like to see.

2)Someway to load prior pointing files.

3) Able to run and load East and West APPM indepentantly.
I would like to run east and west mapping on at another time or another night.

Thanks
Max


Re: APPM feature requests

Max Mirot
 

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 11:15 AM, Ray Gralak wrote:
Hi Max,

1) Retry failed pointing image at the end of the APPM run.
Passing clouds and the Moon sometime affect more image than I like to see.
That's been on the "to do" list for some time, but A-P has to approve a new feature like this.
Paging Rolando .  This is an easy call...

It has been low priority since the workarounds include:

1) Use the points you have.
2) Configure more points to start with to account for lost points.
3) Try collecting data for a model at a different time. : I am not sure what you mean on 3.
2)Someway to load prior pointing files.
You can do that already from APCC in the pointing model window.

3) Able to run and load East and West APPM indepentantly.
I would like to run east and west mapping on at another time or another night.
What's the use case? Usually you can plate solve 2-3 points per minute and start before it's dark enough to image. That should be enough for both pier sides.
        If you doing a big model dense model it can take time especially with a slow dome.  I get about 1 point per minute or less even when using the HA option.
       A four point model will take all night.

        I noticed that when I loaded the West model the East Values are preserved but there is no list or graph.  Are East Values still active for pointing and tracking?
       Is there a way cut and paste East and West models ?
    Thanks
    Max
       

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Max Mirot via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 7:17 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] APPM feature requests


I think these might be helpful to add.

1) Retry failed pointing image at the end of the APPM run.
Passing clouds and the Moon sometime affect more image than I like to see.

2)Someway to load prior pointing files.

3) Able to run and load East and West APPM indepentantly.
I would like to run east and west mapping on at another time or another night.

Thanks
Max


Re: APPM feature requests

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Max,

1) Retry failed pointing image at the end of the APPM run.
Passing clouds and the Moon sometime affect more image than I like to see.
That's been on the "to do" list for some time, but A-P has to approve a new feature like this.

It has been low priority since the workarounds include:

1) Use the points you have.
2) Configure more points to start with to account for lost points.
3) Try collecting data for a model at a different time.

2)Someway to load prior pointing files.
You can do that already from APCC in the pointing model window.

3) Able to run and load East and West APPM indepentantly.
I would like to run east and west mapping on at another time or another night.
What's the use case? Usually you can plate solve 2-3 points per minute and start before it's dark enough to image. That should be enough for both pier sides.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Max Mirot via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 7:17 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] APPM feature requests


I think these might be helpful to add.

1) Retry failed pointing image at the end of the APPM run.
Passing clouds and the Moon sometime affect more image than I like to see.

2)Someway to load prior pointing files.

3) Able to run and load East and West APPM indepentantly.
I would like to run east and west mapping on at another time or another night.

Thanks
Max

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