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Re: Recal remotely?

Jim Fakatselis
 

Hmmm...I use full Pinpoint in MaxIm. Don't know how to do blind solve, would you kindly explain, is it possible with Pinpoint?

Thanks in advance,
Jim


On Friday, June 26, 2020, 1:41:36 AM EDT, Dale Ghent <daleg@...> wrote:



What are you using to plate solve? A blind solve should be able to find where you are pointing in the sky.... if you are using a plate solver that is capable of blind solves.

> On Jun 26, 2020, at 1:39 AM, Jim Fakatselis <pashasdad@...> wrote:
>
> I'm sure this has been asked before but ....here goes. (Let the flames fly!)
>
> I have a AP 130EDF on my Mach1GTO and this evening I had set a 2 hr meridian delay and accidentally slewed to an object that had the mount just gently nudge the pier to lose its calibrated position. I could not get images to plate solve after that since the mount was not where it thought it was.
>
> Is there any way to remotely send it to a known position or any way to recal without having to go to the observatory and level off at my Park 2 position?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jim
>




Re: Recal remotely?

Dale Ghent
 

What are you using to plate solve? A blind solve should be able to find where you are pointing in the sky.... if you are using a plate solver that is capable of blind solves.

On Jun 26, 2020, at 1:39 AM, Jim Fakatselis <pashasdad@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm sure this has been asked before but ....here goes. (Let the flames fly!)

I have a AP 130EDF on my Mach1GTO and this evening I had set a 2 hr meridian delay and accidentally slewed to an object that had the mount just gently nudge the pier to lose its calibrated position. I could not get images to plate solve after that since the mount was not where it thought it was.

Is there any way to remotely send it to a known position or any way to recal without having to go to the observatory and level off at my Park 2 position?

Thanks in advance,
Jim


Recal remotely?

Jim Fakatselis
 

I'm sure this has been asked before but ....here goes. (Let the flames fly!)
 
I have a AP 130EDF on my Mach1GTO and this evening I had set a 2 hr meridian delay and accidentally slewed to an object that had the mount just gently nudge the pier to lose its calibrated position. I could not get images to plate solve after that since the mount was not where it thought it was.
 
Is there any way to remotely send it to a known position or any way to recal without having to go to the observatory and level off at my Park 2 position?
 
Thanks in advance,
Jim


Re: APCC Feature Request: Sync time from GPS?

Dale Ghent
 

You can use a utility called GPSTime to update the system clock after booting but before starting APCC.

Because your USB GPS device is accessed via COM port, and COM port access is exclusive to 1 application at a time, you cannot have GPSTime and APCC using the GPS at the same time, but this will get you an accurate sync.

If you don't need to have APCC connected to the GPS device all the time, you can continue to run GPSTime in the background and it'll continuously keep the computer's clock in sync with the NMEA time sentences coming off the GPS.

Excuse the garish web design:
https://www.coaa.co.uk/gpstime.htm

/dale

On Jun 25, 2020, at 8:24 PM, W Hilmo <y.groups@hilmo.net> wrote:

Hello,

I just got back from a trip to a dark sky site, and I have a feature request:

Would it be possible to add a button to the GPS tab in APCC to sync the computer to the GSP time? My scenario is that I am setting up at a remote site, without any cell or internet connectivity. I always set up during the day and do a daytime polar alignment. The daytime polar alignment wants very accurate location and time information. The location information is easy. I have a USB GPS receiver and APCC can read it and create a new site based on the current location. To get an accurate time, though, I'm pretty much manually correcting the time in the computer based on my watch (which syncs nightly to an atomic time source). Since the computer is dedicated to use with the imaging setup, it's often been powered off long enough for its real time clock to drift. At home, it's no big deal because it syncs with an internet time source almost immediately after booting. In the field, though, it would make things easier to be able to automatically update the time from the GPS.

Thanks,
-Wade


Getting time and location information into the keypad from the mount.

W Hilmo
 

When I was at a dark sky site last week, I took both of my AP mounts.  The AP1600 with encoders was set up for imaging, and the AP1100 was set up for visual use.

I set up the imaging system first.  I updated the location from a GPS receiver through APCC and set the time from my watch (which syncs nightly from an atomic time source).  I then did a daytime polar alignment to complete the mount setup.  I then plugged in the keypad and used the menu option to get time and location from the mount.  When I did this, the time and location matched what I expected.

I then disconnected the keypad, moved it to the AP1100 and initialized the mount (from the keypad, with no computer).  I then double checked the location and time information in the mount.  I then double checked the information from the mount, expecting it to match what it pulled from the AP1600 a few minutes earlier.  The time was very close, but the location information matched the last time I used the mount, at a different location.

I was sure that I'd seen this work correctly before, but I tried a couple of times to get the location information from the AP1600.  Each time, the location information was correct in the keypad when connected to the AP1600.  But after power cycling the AP1100 and initializing it from the keypad, I kept getting the previous site location.

Is this supposed to work?

Next month, I am planning on initializing the AP1100 from Luminos, on the assumption that my phone will have correct time and location data.  But it would be nice if I could understand why moving the location information between mounts using the keypad, does not seem to work like I thought it did.

Thanks,
-Wade


APCC Feature Request: Sync time from GPS?

W Hilmo
 

Hello,

I just got back from a trip to a dark sky site, and I have a feature request:

Would it be possible to add a button to the GPS tab in APCC to sync the computer to the GSP time?  My scenario is that I am setting up at a remote site, without any cell or internet connectivity.  I always set up during the day and do a daytime polar alignment.  The daytime polar alignment wants very accurate location and time information.  The location information is easy.  I have a USB GPS receiver and APCC can read it and create a new site based on the current location.  To get an accurate time, though, I'm pretty much manually correcting the time in the computer based on my watch (which syncs nightly to an atomic time source).  Since the computer is dedicated to use with the imaging setup, it's often been powered off long enough for its real time clock to drift.  At home, it's no big deal because it syncs with an internet time source almost immediately after booting.  In the field, though, it would make things easier to be able to automatically update the time from the GPS.

Thanks,
-Wade


Re: What is the diameter and thread on the Pasil.4 polar scope?

Roland Christen
 


lol, you need to run the lathe spindle in reverse to do this!
Well yea. That's why they give you reverse.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Blahovici <tom.va2fsq@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2020 6:03 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] What is the diameter and thread on the Pasil.4 polar scope?

Yes, I'm being to realize there's a lot of ways to do it. I think in my case I saw a Youtube video where the threading was outwards.  I didn't pay attention to the tool.  Also, read a few things.  In most cases, most of the instructions were incomplete.
Something like 
"When I made threads I turned the threading tool upside down and threaded outwards. That made it easy to avoid crashing the tool into the chuck if I didn't lift the lever fast enough."
lol, you need to run the lathe spindle in reverse to do this!
I think?
First time. I'll get it.
Tom


Re: First light with Mach2GTO

Dean Jacobsen
 

Nice job Jian.  I see that you captured the faint and elusive Soap Bubble.

I am looking forward to seeing your unguided images.
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/ 
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: What is the diameter and thread on the Pasil.4 polar scope?

Tom Blahovici
 

Yes, I'm being to realize there's a lot of ways to do it. I think in my case I saw a Youtube video where the threading was outwards.  I didn't pay attention to the tool.  Also, read a few things.  In most cases, most of the instructions were incomplete.
Something like 
"When I made threads I turned the threading tool upside down and threaded outwards. That made it easy to avoid crashing the tool into the chuck if I didn't lift the lever fast enough."
lol, you need to run the lathe spindle in reverse to do this!
I think?
First time. I'll get it.
Tom


First light with Mach2GTO

jypeng@...
 

Hello Ray,
Thank you for helping out. Mach2 is a great mount and worth every dime to own it. 
This is my first image using Mach2GTO without modeling. The stars are round and small. 
https://www.astrobin.com/p245n9/0/
It was a long store after Ray found out it was user error not using the ASCOM 6.4 when I tried to create the model.
My next image will be modeled without PHD2! 
Regards, 
Jian Yuan Peng
Telescope: TEC 160FL + 0.9 FRC
Mount: Astro-Physics Mach 2 GTO
Camera: ASI6200MC Pro
Acquisition Date: June 2 ~ June 9, 2020
Frame: 97x600" bin2x2
Filter: Triad Ultra Quad-Band Narrowband Filter
Software: PHD2, PixInsight, Lightroom, Sequence Generator Pro, Photoshop
Location: Palo Alto, California, USA


Re: Weird issues - ASCOM driver (5.30.10) - Mach1 - APCC and PHD2 #ASCOM_V2_Driver #Guiding #APCC

Ray Gralak
 

However, this does not explain the issue APCC not being able to find the CP4 box on the network.
APCC uses a UDP broadcast message. Make sure that your firewall allows that.

And again (as I said :-) make sure you disable any unused network adapters on your computer in case the UDP broadcast is being sent by windows out the wrong network port (s).

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rodolphe
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 1:04 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Weird issues - ASCOM driver (5.30.10) - Mach1 - APCC and PHD2 #ASCOM_V2_Driver
#Guiding #APCC

Hi Ray



It looks like the Windows update may have changed the decimal point setting. Have you tried changing the
Windows setting to swap "." and "," so that they are equivalent to what the mount expects? In the above log
messages the mount will not understand a comma in the RA and declination values.


I have changed the settings as suggested.
Also switched to TCP.
I will now have to wait for clear skies to confirm.

However, this does not explain the issue APCC not being able to find the CP4 box on the network. I tried that
again after the TCP switch: it consistently returns no result - Win10 feature update may be a reason for that. I'll
stick a yellow note on my computer screen "/!\ Stay away from Win updates on the imaging computer".

Thanks a lot for your feedback and insights.
Clear skies,
Rodolphe


Re: What is the diameter and thread on the Pasil.4 polar scope?

Roland Christen
 

When I made threads I turned the threading tool upside down and threaded outwards. That made it easy to avoid crashing the tool into the chuck if I didn't lift the lever fast enough.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Blahovici <tom.va2fsq@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2020 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] What is the diameter and thread on the Pasil.4 polar scope?

So much for try 1.  Made a left hand thread....


Re: What is the diameter and thread on the Pasil.4 polar scope?

Tom Blahovici
 

So much for try 1.  Made a left hand thread....


Re: Weird issues - ASCOM driver (5.30.10) - Mach1 - APCC and PHD2 #ASCOM_V2_Driver #Guiding #APCC

Rodolphe
 

Hi Ray

It looks like the Windows update may have changed the decimal point setting. Have you tried changing the Windows setting to swap "." and "," so that they are equivalent to what the mount expects? In the above log messages the mount will not understand a comma in the RA and declination values.
I have changed the settings as suggested.
Also switched to TCP.
I will now have to wait for clear skies to confirm.

However, this does not explain the issue APCC not being able to find the CP4 box on the network. I tried that again after the TCP switch: it consistently returns no result - Win10 feature update may be a reason for that. I'll stick a yellow note on my computer screen "/!\ Stay away from Win updates on the imaging computer".

Thanks a lot for your feedback and insights.
Clear skies,
Rodolphe


Re: Mach2 Keypad

Roland Christen
 

Yes, the CP5 controllers will get new software. Updating takes about 5 seconds.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: DFisch <manusfisch@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2020 6:39 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Keypad

Roland, will the new CP5 need updated once the keypads are received?
 
TJF ThinkPad1
 
From: uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Keypad
 
Certainly. You will also have to load new software into the CP4, but that's real easy.
 
Rolando
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hambrick via groups.io <mike.hambrick@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Jun 24, 2020 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Keypad
Is it safe to assume that if we currently own a Keypad and CP4 that we will be able to download the new software to our existing Keypads ?


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
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Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...
 


Re: NGC 5044 qne NGC 5054 galaxy group

Astrobob
 

Whoops! I meant AP900 mount…

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: NGC 5044 qne NGC 5054 galaxy group

Astrobob
 

Great detail Geoff!

The Mach 1 mount always amazes me.

 

Bob

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Weird issues - ASCOM driver (5.30.10) - Mach1 - APCC and PHD2 #ASCOM_V2_Driver #Guiding #APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Rodolphe,,

Line 5995: 0005995 2020-06-24 23:25:22.529: Error, ParseAndSaveDec, Invalid Dec: :Sd+60*30:48,3#
Line 5999: 0005999 2020-06-24 23:25:22.545: Error, ParseAndSaveRa, Invalid RA: :Sr22:37:23,71#
Line 6004: 0006004 2020-06-24 23:25:22.561: Error, SyncTarget, Valid Alt/Az, RA/Dec, or HA/Dec has not been received!

It looks like the Windows update may have changed the decimal point setting. Have you tried changing the Windows setting to swap "." and "," so that they are equivalent to what the mount expects? In the above log messages the mount will not understand a comma in the RA and declination values.

Also, I see network errors in the log for APCC trying to poll for the GTOCP4. You might want to check that your network settings are correct and disable any extra network adapters that are not connected to a LAN.

BTW, I suggest that you try using TCP as the protocol instead of UDP.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rodolphe
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 8:08 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Weird issues - ASCOM driver (5.30.10) - Mach1 - APCC and PHD2 #ASCOM_V2_Driver
#Guiding #APCC

Hi Ray
Thanks for looking into it, really appreciated.
See zipped log files from the last 3 days here (onedrive link):
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AvO2KZoP803hortOULfxatSpxzXO2g?e=4eVEga
KR
Rodolphe


Re: Weird issues - ASCOM driver (5.30.10) - Mach1 - APCC and PHD2 #ASCOM_V2_Driver #Guiding #APCC

Rodolphe
 

Hi Ray
Thanks for looking into it, really appreciated.
See zipped log files from the last 3 days here (onedrive link): https://1drv.ms/u/s!AvO2KZoP803hortOULfxatSpxzXO2g?e=4eVEga
KR
Rodolphe


Re: Weird issues - ASCOM driver (5.30.10) - Mach1 - APCC and PHD2 #ASCOM_V2_Driver #Guiding #APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Rodolphe,

I'm out of luck - cannot uninstall it, too late (10 days have passed).
I'm sorry to hear that.

Going back to the list of problems:

1. When starting a new frame capture in SCG Pro, PHD2 sends out a warning "Please disable the Synchronous
PulseGuide option in the mount's ASCOM driver settings. Enabling the setting can cause unpredictable results".
--> But the ASCOM settings are "Synchronous PulseGuide calls" disabled (box unchecked).
Again the PHD2 warning is inaccurate. You can disable synchronous Pulseguide in the driver but that won't fix the bug in PHD2. Unfortunately despite my attempts I don't think any of the PHD2 developers understand or accept that the problem is in the way PHD2 is using COM interop. There is nothing that can be changed in the AP V2 ASCOM driver to fix this.

2,. When using APCC through its virtual ports, I get an error message slewing the mount (not after the initial slew,
but when SGP attempts to center the target) : "VPort2 / Fault / SyncTarget: Valid ALT/Az, RA/Dec, HA/Dec has not
been received!" - and the 3D view blinks in red.
Use APCC's log zipper utility to zip the APCC + ASCOM logs from the last night that you encountered the problem. Post here or email me privately a link to the zip file in dropbox, google drive, or one drive.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rodolphe
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 5:35 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Weird issues - ASCOM driver (5.30.10) - Mach1 - APCC and PHD2 #ASCOM_V2_Driver
#Guiding #APCC

I'm out of luck - cannot uninstall it, too late (10 days have passed).
Would be interesting to see if other users face a similar problem.
Meanwhile, I will wait for a fix, I don't have the patience needed for reinstalling the full system now...
Thanks anyways.

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