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Re: Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light

Michael Hambrick <mike.hambrick@...>
 

Hi Roland

My GTOCP4 (purchased in 2017) does not have drain holes in it, but a while back there was a really detailed post from Joe Zeglinski regarding the potential for dew flooding of the GTOCP4 case which also had a link to a YouTube video that Tony (a.k.a. Harley Davidson) made showing how he added drain holes in the bottom of his GTOCP4 case.

Do you recommend adding these drain holes if we are in a heavy dew environment ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwU5ibObflw


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...


Re: Help With APPM and Dome Slewing/Camera Image Not In Sync

Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
 
Edited

The message I was getting was "Maximum Plate Solve Time Exceeded". It was set to 10 sec, so I upped that to 45 sec and all looks good again...I think :)

I noticed that the Dec reading during the APPM run is "0" when the CW is up and "7.0" when the CW is down...is that normal?


Re: Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light

Bill Long
 

:) 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 4:58 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light
 
The encoder readheads are fully sealed and cannot be damaged by rain, snow or dead of night.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Long <bill@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2020 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light

Silly question perhaps, but in the case of the sudden shower -- would the encoder read heads be safe?


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 4:48 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light
 
By the way, forgot to mention that the original Yellow Light problem was caused by the CP4 being inadvertently left out in the rain at some point in its history. That caused some components on one of the boards to eventually fail, and we replaced that board which solved the yellow light problem. Unfortunately the unit is not waterproof when it comes to rain. We also removed the plugs on the bottom of the case so if it does get wet, the water won't accumulate.

The mount itself won't be damaged by rain, just the electronics. I usually unplug my keypad and CP controller from the mount and bring them inside if I plan to leave the mount out. In my Hawaii house I've experienced sudden showers that spring up just a few minutes after the sky was crystal clear.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Mikko Viljamaa <mikko.viljamaa@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2020 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light

Thanks Rolando, appreciated!


- Mikko


Re: Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light

Roland Christen
 

The encoder readheads are fully sealed and cannot be damaged by rain, snow or dead of night.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Long <bill@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2020 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light

Silly question perhaps, but in the case of the sudden shower -- would the encoder read heads be safe?


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 4:48 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light
 
By the way, forgot to mention that the original Yellow Light problem was caused by the CP4 being inadvertently left out in the rain at some point in its history. That caused some components on one of the boards to eventually fail, and we replaced that board which solved the yellow light problem. Unfortunately the unit is not waterproof when it comes to rain. We also removed the plugs on the bottom of the case so if it does get wet, the water won't accumulate.

The mount itself won't be damaged by rain, just the electronics. I usually unplug my keypad and CP controller from the mount and bring them inside if I plan to leave the mount out. In my Hawaii house I've experienced sudden showers that spring up just a few minutes after the sky was crystal clear.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Mikko Viljamaa <mikko.viljamaa@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2020 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light

Thanks Rolando, appreciated!


- Mikko


Re: Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light

Bill Long
 

Silly question perhaps, but in the case of the sudden shower -- would the encoder read heads be safe?


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 4:48 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light
 
By the way, forgot to mention that the original Yellow Light problem was caused by the CP4 being inadvertently left out in the rain at some point in its history. That caused some components on one of the boards to eventually fail, and we replaced that board which solved the yellow light problem. Unfortunately the unit is not waterproof when it comes to rain. We also removed the plugs on the bottom of the case so if it does get wet, the water won't accumulate.

The mount itself won't be damaged by rain, just the electronics. I usually unplug my keypad and CP controller from the mount and bring them inside if I plan to leave the mount out. In my Hawaii house I've experienced sudden showers that spring up just a few minutes after the sky was crystal clear.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Mikko Viljamaa <mikko.viljamaa@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2020 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light

Thanks Rolando, appreciated!


- Mikko


Re: Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light

Roland Christen
 

By the way, forgot to mention that the original Yellow Light problem was caused by the CP4 being inadvertently left out in the rain at some point in its history. That caused some components on one of the boards to eventually fail, and we replaced that board which solved the yellow light problem. Unfortunately the unit is not waterproof when it comes to rain. We also removed the plugs on the bottom of the case so if it does get wet, the water won't accumulate.

The mount itself won't be damaged by rain, just the electronics. I usually unplug my keypad and CP controller from the mount and bring them inside if I plan to leave the mount out. In my Hawaii house I've experienced sudden showers that spring up just a few minutes after the sky was crystal clear.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Mikko Viljamaa <mikko.viljamaa@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2020 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light

Thanks Rolando, appreciated!


- Mikko


Re: Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light

Mikko Viljamaa
 

Thanks Rolando, appreciated!


- Mikko


Re: AP1100 Dec End Plate

Phillip H Coker <pcoker36@...>
 

Never mind. There are four possible ways to slip the plate on but only one works. The thing is not symmetrical.

On Aug 13, 2020, at 15:43, Phillip H Coker via groups.io <pcoker36=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Removed the end plate to feed control wires through the mount. Now cannot get the end plate to go back on. Removed the safety knobs to make sure that the brass pins were not in the way. That didn't help so I set the Plate out on the driveway in the sun until it heated up to probably 125F but that didn't help either. That plate slipped off easily with no binding but I cannot get it back on. What is the secret??

Phillip


AP1100 Dec End Plate

Phillip H Coker <pcoker36@...>
 

Removed the end plate to feed control wires through the mount. Now cannot get the end plate to go back on. Removed the safety knobs to make sure that the brass pins were not in the way. That didn't help so I set the Plate out on the driveway in the sun until it heated up to probably 125F but that didn't help either. That plate slipped off easily with no binding but I cannot get it back on. What is the secret??

Phillip


Re: AP130mm Gran Turismo (Field Flattener and quad telecompressor) to ZWOASI6200M Spacing Hardware

Bill Long
 

If you use the provided 22.1mm spacer, the min length is the same. If you dont use it, the min length of the flattener adapter will be 2.6mm longer. (20.9mm vs 18.3mm). 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Michael Hambrick via groups.io <mike.hambrick@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 1:18 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP130mm Gran Turismo (Field Flattener and quad telecompressor) to ZWOASI6200M Spacing Hardware
 
I agree. Precise Parts can build adapters for just about any combination. They do have limits on the minimum length for some adapters.

Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...


Re: AP130mm Gran Turismo (Field Flattener and quad telecompressor) to ZWOASI6200M Spacing Hardware

Michael Hambrick <mike.hambrick@...>
 

I agree. Precise Parts can build adapters for just about any combination. They do have limits on the minimum length for some adapters.

Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...


Re: AP130mm Gran Turismo (Field Flattener and quad telecompressor) to ZWOASI6200M Spacing Hardware

R Botero
 

Mark

What’s the diameter and thread pitch of the filter wheel you have? If from ZWO, I suspect metric, you could use one of the spacing rings from Baader such as this for M68: https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/accessories/adapters-imaging-accessories/m68-zeiss/baader-m68-varilock-15-20mm-extension.html
Baader also have these for M54 and M42 I believe. And they also sell AP to metric adapters for your flattener. 

Precise parts will certainly make you a very good part but the Baader route is also available and likely cheaper, especially if you are not in the US (I don’t know where you are). 

Or you could machine an adapter if you have access to a lathe?

Roberto


Re: AP130mm Gran Turismo (Field Flattener and quad telecompressor) to ZWOASI6200M Spacing Hardware

Bill Long
 

Precise Parts is the best route. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Mark Townsend <albertawow@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 12:34 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] AP130mm Gran Turismo (Field Flattener and quad telecompressor) to ZWOASI6200M Spacing Hardware
 
Hello All,

I'm currently using the AP Nose piece adapter for CCD field flatteners and telecompressor (part #ADATCC2) to attach my ZWOASI6200MM camera. The AP Nose Piece adapter makes is very difficult to adjust the telecompressors 1mm spacing allowance. The three compression screws on the adapter can easily create tilt issues plus sliding the camera/filter wheel in out with any accuracy is difficult to say the least. Does anyone know if there is an accurate threaded spacer option available to match the AP field flattener and quad telecompressor to the ZWOASI6200MM&FilterWheel?

Thanks in advance.

 


AP130mm Gran Turismo (Field Flattener and quad telecompressor) to ZWOASI6200M Spacing Hardware

Mark Townsend
 

Hello All,

I'm currently using the AP Nose piece adapter for CCD field flatteners and telecompressor (part #ADATCC2) to attach my ZWOASI6200MM camera. The AP Nose Piece adapter makes is very difficult to adjust the telecompressors 1mm spacing allowance. The three compression screws on the adapter can easily create tilt issues plus sliding the camera/filter wheel in out with any accuracy is difficult to say the least. Does anyone know if there is an accurate threaded spacer option available to match the AP field flattener and quad telecompressor to the ZWOASI6200MM&FilterWheel?

Thanks in advance.

 


Re: 1200GTO Pointing Issues

Roland Christen
 

Don't use Autostart YES until you get it to first work with Resume from Present Position and Autostart NO. Once it works and points correctly you can switch to YES and it will start automatically from any position that you left the scope in, even if you left it pointing to China.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: carlburton2001 <cburton52@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2020 12:15 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200GTO Pointing Issues

Hi Rolando
I'll make sure the time is correct.
Thanks


Re: 1200GTO Pointing Issues

carlburton2001
 

Hi Rolando
I'll make sure the time is correct.
Thanks


Re: 1200GTO Pointing Issues

Roland Christen
 

Remember also that your time, date and location must be correct in the keypad. If your first slew is off by 45 degrees it is most likely that one of these is wrong, probably the time, daylight savings etc.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: carlburton2001 <cburton52@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2020 10:21 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1200GTO Pointing Issues

Hi Ray
I've done the update and can connect to mount.  I have changed to Aotoconnect=Yes from the keypad.  There a couple clear nights here in MI so hopefully I can get this ironed out.

Thanks Peter & everyone for the help.  Once I get the observatory straight it will be great to flip a switch and go.

Carl


Re: 1200GTO Pointing Issues

carlburton2001
 

Hi Ray
I've done the update and can connect to mount.  I have changed to Aotoconnect=Yes from the keypad.  There a couple clear nights here in MI so hopefully I can get this ironed out.

Thanks Peter & everyone for the help.  Once I get the observatory straight it will be great to flip a switch and go.

Carl


Re: Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light

Roland Christen
 

Sorry, I had assumed that the mount was operated in the condition we received it, which was with the lever in the half way position. There was a lot of wear on the gearwheel and that could be one way that this happens. Another way would be if the tops of the teeth were allowed to ratchet past each other if you happened to unlock the lever in a place other than Park3 position. Again i caution to set the back stop gently if and when you feel the need to adjust it. For RA you should never have to adjust it, and rarely ever for Dec. The backstop has zero effect on backlash in either case.

We did clean and completely overhaul your mount, checked the PE to be smooth and under 7 arc sec P-P, re-greased your gears and tested everything twice before sending it out. My caution is simply that, please make adjustments carefully and gently if you feel the need to adjust something. The mount should be ready to go without any adjustment as is.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Mikko Viljamaa <mikko.viljamaa@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2020 9:00 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 and GTOCP4 Yellow Light

Rolando I find your comment disappointing assuming that I have done something like this. I have never left the lever to any other position than fully engaged. As a matter of fact I don't touch my mount, it just stays put and as you might remember, these latest problems started as an electrical issue (connection) when again, nothing had changed. The only time I have adjusted the backstop was months ago when I had the weird plate solving problem. After that the mount worked for months before this latest issue occurred.


- Mikko


Re: 1200GTO Pointing Issues

Peter Bresler
 

I replaced my Mach1 with a 1200 and have not really had any problems. I sync with SGP by centering a star selected with coordinates. My mount did get "lost" after I did some adjustments using the hand controller. I released the clutches, put it back in park 5, reinitialized, and all is ok. Goto's are very accurate.

Peter

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