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Re: MACH1 GTO Merdian Flip #Keypad

Luke Leege
 

Any idea when the keypad revision will be available to the masses? 3-6 months?
Thanks, in advance,
Luke


Re: MACH1 GTO Merdian Flip #Keypad

Howard Hedlund
 

Hi Ken,

 

I’m pretty sure I know exactly what is wrong.  The keypad performs the meridian delay by “fooling” the clock in the GTOCPx control box.   The driver is probably undoing the keypad’s clock fooling commands. 

 

There are two solutions.  Each will work, but I don’t advise mixing them.  Choose one and use that method exclusively.

 

1.       In the driver, Uncheck the boxes to “…keep mount time synced to PC time (recommended)”  That may not be a perfect quote.  Then you can do meridian delay with the keypad.  Just be sure to undo it with the keypad as well.

2.       Set meridian delay in the driver instead of the keypad.  You can then still use the keypad for your GoTo.

 

The next major keypad version will use the same method as the driver for meridian delay, so the problem will go away.

 

Mag. 7 Skies!

 

Howard Hedlund

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone: 815-315-7015

www.astro-physics.com

Please include this e-mail with your response.

 

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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ken Murfitt
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 13:06
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] MACH1 GTO Merdian Flip #Keypad

 

I shall check those things the next time I am out, thanks.


Re: MACH1 GTO Merdian Flip #Keypad

Ken Murfitt
 

I shall check those things the next time I am out, thanks.


Re: MACH1 GTO Merdian Flip #Keypad

Roland Christen
 

Meridian delay does not perform a meridian flip. Those are two different things. Normally the mount will continue to track past the meridian (overhead point) until you send a GoTo. Then it will flip sides. The mount can also be set up to stop tracking at the meridian by setting the limits.

If the mount does not flip when you issue a GoTo after it has passed the meridian, then it is highly likely that the clock time is set wrong. The meridian is calculated from your local time/date/location. In the keypad main Menu pressing 4 = Time/LST will bring up your local time and LST which is the calculated Meridian Right Ascension value. (LST = Local Sidereal Time). That RA value is the point where the mount will flip sides when a GoTo is issued. So, that is a check on the operation of the mount that you need to be familiar with. Simply compare the calculated value and compare it to where your planetarium program says the meridian is. Also check the local clock time to make sure it is not set to the wrong value. Clock time is shown as military time (example 1pm = 1300 hours).

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Ken M <kmurfitt@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2020 12:20 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] MACH1 GTO Merdian Flip #Keypad

Hello!

While imaging the Crescent Nebula a few nights back, I rang into a snag when attempting a meridian flip from the Keypad.
 
I tried to perform a meridian flip from the Keypad by setting RA/DEC/REV -> Meridian 2E, 1E, 0W, 1W, 2W in that order. Each time I attempted to
"re-go to" the Crescent nebula but the mount would not perform a merdian flip.
 
The scope was almost upright on the West side - well within the hour of passing the meridian.
 
I used the Tour -> Common Object Names to select the Crescent nebula. I later tried selecting NGC 6888 directly but the mount would not flip.
 
The Keypad Mount Type is set to MACH1.
 
Auto-Connect is set to EXT - my setup connects with Stellarium.
 
All other operations between the keypad, Stellarium, PHD2 and the mount seemed to be working fine.

The Keypad is relatively new (2018 model - firmware rev 4.19.3) and so I don't suspect the battery is the problem - I get no 'symptoms' of low battery ("object below horizon" etc).

Any thoughts on how to achieve a meridian flip from the Keypad please? Should I have set something from the Astro-Physics driver instead?
 
Eventually I slewed the mount manually to perform the "flip".
 
Thanks for any pointers.


MACH1 GTO Merdian Flip #Keypad

Ken Murfitt
 

Hello!

While imaging the Crescent Nebula a few nights back, I rang into a snag when attempting a meridian flip from the Keypad.
 
I tried to perform a meridian flip from the Keypad by setting RA/DEC/REV -> Meridian 2E, 1E, 0W, 1W, 2W in that order. Each time I attempted to
"re-go to" the Crescent nebula but the mount would not perform a merdian flip.
 
The scope was almost upright on the West side - well within the hour of passing the meridian.
 
I used the Tour -> Common Object Names to select the Crescent nebula. I later tried selecting NGC 6888 directly but the mount would not flip.
 
The Keypad Mount Type is set to MACH1.
 
Auto-Connect is set to EXT - my setup connects with Stellarium.
 
All other operations between the keypad, Stellarium, PHD2 and the mount seemed to be working fine.

The Keypad is relatively new (2018 model - firmware rev 4.19.3) and so I don't suspect the battery is the problem - I get no 'symptoms' of low battery ("object below horizon" etc).

Any thoughts on how to achieve a meridian flip from the Keypad please? Should I have set something from the Astro-Physics driver instead?
 
Eventually I slewed the mount manually to perform the "flip".
 
Thanks for any pointers.


Re: M20 First light with ZWO ASI2600

Robert Chozick
 

Thanks for the nice comments.  I really like this camera.  I can see the more subtle gradients of color from the 16 vs 14 bit.  I just wish they would make one with bigger pixels.

Robert

On Jul 23, 2020, at 12:44 AM, R Botero via groups.io <rbotero@...> wrote:

Great first light Robert!
I’ve had one of these for a couple of months now. I use coupled to my new Stowaway working at 490mm FL. It covers a very nice area of the sky. I’m only limited by light pollution living 15 miles from the centre of London. 

Roberto


Robert Chozick




Re: ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?

Pierre Henrotay
 

Could you please check?
The ZWO downloads for ascom is 1.0.4.3 dated June 29.
The change log mentions a rollback to 6. 4.
The Ascom platform referenced is 6.4 also. 

Pierre


Re: ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Luca,

The ZWO native driver requires ASCOM 6.5 since a few months ago. I have been running it with APCC Pro with
no issues. However, I think some users had problems with APPM and ASCOM 6.5. It would be nice to be able
to run the latest version of the camera driver and not have to revert to past versions to be compatible with
tracking models now that ASCOM 6.5 has been officially released.
Sure, that would be nice. And the new ASCOM platform should be backwards compatible so I hope you realize that the fix is likely
going to be in the ASCOM platform, not APCC.

What I need to do is try to track down the location of the problem in the ASCOM platform so I can provide feedback to the ASCOM
developers. I would also like to suggest a fix to minimize the wait time for a new build of the ASCOM platform.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Luca Marinelli
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 7:07 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?

Ray,

The ZWO native driver requires ASCOM 6.5 since a few months ago. I have been running it with APCC Pro with
no issues. However, I think some users had problems with APPM and ASCOM 6.5. It would be nice to be able
to run the latest version of the camera driver and not have to revert to past versions to be compatible with
tracking models now that ASCOM 6.5 has been officially released.

Thanks,

Luca


Re: M20 First light with ZWO ASI2600

R Botero
 

Great first light Robert!
I’ve had one of these for a couple of months now. I use coupled to my new Stowaway working at 490mm FL. It covers a very nice area of the sky. I’m only limited by light pollution living 15 miles from the centre of London. 

Roberto


Re: M20 First light with ZWO ASI2600

Roland Christen
 

Lots of great detail. Great colors.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Jul 22, 2020 11:12 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] M20 First light with ZWO ASI2600

This is my first light with my new ZWO ASI2600.  This is the new ZWO 16 bit OSC APS-C size sensor camera.  I really like the camera.  I think I will keep it.


Robert Chozick






Re: M20 First light with ZWO ASI2600

Wayne Hixson
 

I’m really enjoying my QHY268C. Using it with Starizona filter drawer and IDAS NB1 for narrowband imaging. 


On Jul 22, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Dean Jacobsen <deanjacobsen@...> wrote:

Nice job Robert.  It looks like QHY will be making a camera with a mono version of this detector later this year.  I am looking forward to having a camera with one of these 6th Gen. Sony back illuminated CMOS sensors.
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: M20 First light with ZWO ASI2600

Dean Jacobsen
 

Nice job Robert.  It looks like QHY will be making a camera with a mono version of this detector later this year.  I am looking forward to having a camera with one of these 6th Gen. Sony back illuminated CMOS sensors.
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: M20 First light with ZWO ASI2600

Phillip Klein
 

Robert,
 
A real stunner. Good work.

Phil

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 9:12 PM Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
This is my first light with my new ZWO ASI2600.  This is the new ZWO 16 bit OSC APS-C size sensor camera.  I really like the camera.  I think I will keep it.

https://pbase.com/image/170897549

Robert Chozick
rchozick@...







M20 First light with ZWO ASI2600

Robert Chozick
 

This is my first light with my new ZWO ASI2600. This is the new ZWO 16 bit OSC APS-C size sensor camera. I really like the camera. I think I will keep it.

https://pbase.com/image/170897549

Robert Chozick
rchozick@aol.com


Re: ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?

Luca Marinelli
 

Ray,

The ZWO native driver requires ASCOM 6.5 since a few months ago. I have been running it with APCC Pro with no issues. However, I think some users had problems with APPM and ASCOM 6.5. It would be nice to be able to run the latest version of the camera driver and not have to revert to past versions to be compatible with tracking models now that ASCOM 6.5 has been officially released.

Thanks,

Luca


Re: ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?

Mike Dodd
 

On 7/22/2020 8:52 PM, Joe Zeglinski wrote:
Hi Mike, slightly off topic, but in regard to your wise suggestion
about doing a *_Restore Point_*.
Have you personally had success with “Restore Point Recovery”
under e.g. Win-10 (PRO) ?
No Win10 here. I run Win7 Pro on the observatory PC and Win 8.1 Pro on my office PC. I have successfully applied a Restore Point on on both platforms to recover previous files and programs.

Sorry I can't answer your question.

--- Mike


Re: ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?

Joe Zeglinski
 

Hi Mike,  slightly off topic, but in regard to your wise suggestion about doing a Restore Point.
 
    Have you personally had success with “Restore Point Recovery”  under e.g. Win-10 (PRO) ? I have yet to get one to work, on either of my two PC’s. They just go for an hour, wasting my time and patience, pretending to be working at it,  fail, reboot and leave things rolled back to the original system it had started out from. Tried any number of previous Restore Points, not just one, on either PC. Failure Report gives a bogus Microsoft unhelpful suggestion to  turn off all antivirus programs – did that, doesn’t help
 
    Had it work just once,  (probably a fluke), after discovering that ACRONIS Backup 2014 ... “turns off Volume Shadow Copy” – a required Win-10 Service for successful RP restoration, but have forced it to stay Running twice, prior to initiating the Point Restoration today – no luck, and  the service was STOPPED by something, after the reboot of a previous failure. I am at a loss. Something in Windows is turning it off, perhaps even Windows Defender AV, even after disabling it in previous attempts. Also tried disabling MALWAREBYTES, no difference. Even Microsoft tech support (yeah, I know, contradiction of terms) - had no luck after running on my system for hours.
Would love to have Restore Point  function work, after a year of attempts.
Any advice would be most appreciated.
 
    Beginning to wonder if the recent Win-10 Build 2004, from a couple of weeks ago,  is the culprit. There is an ever increasing pile of posts about that recent Build’s  problems corrupting working apps and drivers,  on the web – might even match Win-VISTA’s  popularity :-)
 
    Anybody else getting “System Restore Point” failures, or found a fix?
 
Thanks,
Joe
 

From: Mike Dodd
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 8:00 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?
 
On 7/22/2020 7:53 PM, David Fabrizio via groups.io wrote:
> No, it's just that I updated it BEFORE I saw your original email.

Did you create a Restore Point before installing? If so, just roll-back
to that point. Otherwise, maybe you can uninttall, then install the
pre-6.5 version.

--- Mike





Re: ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?

Mike Dodd
 

On 7/22/2020 7:53 PM, David Fabrizio via groups.io wrote:
No, it's just that I updated it BEFORE I saw your original email.
Did you create a Restore Point before installing? If so, just roll-back to that point. Otherwise, maybe you can uninttall, then install the pre-6.5 version.

--- Mike


Re: ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?

David Fabrizio
 

No, it's just that I updated it BEFORE I saw your original email. 

Thank you


-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Gralak <groups3@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Jul 22, 2020 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?

"Do not update" is the update. I may not have time to look into this until next week, if even then.

Is there something in 6.5 that you need?

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Fabrizio via groups.io
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 3:36 PM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?
>
> Any update on this situation yet?
>
>
>
>
>     On Jul 19, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Cheng-Yang Tan via groups.io <cytan299=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
>
>
>    
>     Hi Ray,
>       Thanks for the warning. I'll wait until you confirm it's good to do so.
>
>     Thanks!
>
>     cytan
>
>     On Sunday, July 19, 2020, 08:11:26 PM CDT, Ray Gralak <groups3@...> wrote:
>
>
>     Confirmed. Do not update to ASCOM platform 6.5 yet.
>
>
>     -Ray Gralak
>
>     Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
>
>     Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com
>
>     Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
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>     > -----Original Message-----
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>     > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ray Gralak
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>     > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 2:32 PM
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>     > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
>
>     > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?
>
>     >
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>     > >    ASCOM 6.5 is released. Should I upgrade or wait?
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>     >
>
>     > Wait for now. I'm looking into it now. The downloaded file is not digitally signed which is a big red flag.
>
>     >
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>     > -Ray Gralak
>
>     > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
>
>     > Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com
>
>     > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
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>     > > -----Original Message-----
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>     > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cheng-Yang Tan via
> groups.io
>
>     > > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:44 PM
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>     > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
>
>     > > Subject: [ap-gto] ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?
>
>     > >
>
>     > > Hi guys,
>
>     > >    ASCOM 6.5 is released. Should I upgrade or wait?
>
>     > >
>
>     > > https://ascom-standards.org/Help/Platform/html/3417e177-f705-497d-8127-fb30e8519d50.htm
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>     > > cytan
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Re: ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?

Ray Gralak
 

"Do not update" is the update. I may not have time to look into this until next week, if even then.

Is there something in 6.5 that you need?

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Fabrizio via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 3:36 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?

Any update on this situation yet?




On Jul 19, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Cheng-Yang Tan via groups.io <cytan299=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:




Hi Ray,
Thanks for the warning. I'll wait until you confirm it's good to do so.

Thanks!

cytan

On Sunday, July 19, 2020, 08:11:26 PM CDT, Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com> wrote:


Confirmed. Do not update to ASCOM platform 6.5 yet.


-Ray Gralak

Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com

Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver



> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ray Gralak

> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 2:32 PM

> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?

>

> > ASCOM 6.5 is released. Should I upgrade or wait?

>

> Wait for now. I'm looking into it now. The downloaded file is not digitally signed which is a big red flag.

>

> -Ray Gralak

> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

> Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com

> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

>

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cheng-Yang Tan via
groups.io

> > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:44 PM

> > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> > Subject: [ap-gto] ASCOM 6.5 released, upgrade or not?

> >

> > Hi guys,

> > ASCOM 6.5 is released. Should I upgrade or wait?

> >

> > https://ascom-standards.org/Help/Platform/html/3417e177-f705-497d-8127-fb30e8519d50.htm

> >

> > cytan

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