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Re: Open Driver Handbox?

Wayne Hixson
 

Yes. The situation is that I’m trying to close APCC. It says there’s a client attached. I want to open the handbox to disconnect the client, but it’s not in the tray.

On Jul 27, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Mike Dodd <mike@mdodd.com> wrote:

On 7/27/2020 11:10 AM, Wayne Hixson via groups.io wrote:
I know I should know this, but how the heck can you open the ASCOM
driver handbox?
Do you mean the TUI with the direction buttons?

in my installation, the GUI opens automatically when I connect to the mount in any application (e.g., SkyX, ACP, or the AP Jog utility). That GUI has direction buttons to slew the mount at a rate set in a nearby dropdown box.

If your driver opens minimized, look for it in the system tray, then click to maximize it.

Is this what you're asking about?

--- Mike





Re: Parking Mach2 with couter weight up

Roland Christen
 

There is not enough information in any of your posts for us to determine what you are doing and how you are doing this. So I can only assume that you have gone beyond the limits that you have set and the mount is in a Park mode with motors de-energized. In that condition it will not slew until you unpark it.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Konstantin von Poschinger <KPoschinger@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2020 10:28 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Parking Mach2 with couter weight up

No!
I move the mount in a cw up position in the middle of the allowed area! 
From there it is not possible to slew direct to a park position. 
I have done that a lots of time with different sides of pear and different park positions. 

Grüsse

Konstantin
Konstantin v. Poschinger


Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747
0171/1983476

Am 26.07.2020 um 17:03 schrieb uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>:


You probably reached the limits and the mount self-parked. Then you must unpark before you can issue another GoTo.
When you have limits turned on and mount tracks beyond the meridian, cwt up, then it goes into the limits and parks.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Konstantin von Poschinger <KPoschinger@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jul 25, 2020 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Parking Mach2 with couter weight up

Hi Roland,

you are right, when you reach the limits. But I only slew to a allowed cw up poisition.
Now I want to park in position 2. That is not working as I described.

Konstantin


Konstantin v. Poschinger

Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747
0171 1983476

Am 25.07.2020 um 23:46 schrieb uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>:

That is correct. The mount automatically parks at that position when you reach the limit. The motors shut off so that it does not continue to track and cause telescope to hit the pier and cause damage to the scope. This is the feature that people have been asking or. When the telescope is in Park mode, you need to send an unpark command before it will re-energize and move.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Konstantin von Poschinger <KPoschinger@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jul 25, 2020 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Parking Mach2 with couter weight up

Hi,

I have a look at the log. the error seems to be in the row 0002539 a westlimit has been triggered. and after that the mount is parked at that position. 

Konstantin

 
Konstantin v. Poschinger

Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747
0171 1983476

Am 25.07.2020 um 22:05 schrieb Konstantin von Poschinger <KPoschinger@...>:

Hi Ray,

I did nother short run with the failure. I only went to a cw up and then did a park command. After that it set the mount to park at the cw up position and after unparking and slewing to a cw down I have parked correctly. In this short log I hope you can find what you want.

Konstantin


Konstantin v. Poschinger

Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747

0171 1983476


Am 25.07.2020 um 21:36 schrieb Konstantin von Poschinger <KPoschinger@...>:

Hi Ray,

I could park after I slew in a counterweight up position. In the time before that it didn’t worked. I did this more than one time.

Konstantin


Konstantin v. Poschinger

Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747
0171 1983476

Am 25.07.2020 um 20:28 schrieb Ray Gralak <groups3@...>:

There are several parks in your log file. Can you be more specific on the time at which this failed park request occurred?

I looked at the last park and it looks like it worked fine.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Konstantin von Poschinger
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 9:29 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Parking Mach2 with couter weight up

Hello Ray,

I just tested my new mount. While setting up the meridian delay position I found a strange thing. When the counter
weight shaft is up and I gave the order to park APCC didn’t move the mount. I send you the log files. Perhaps I
have done something wrong in the settings.
I think I should report it to you.

Greetings

Konstantin

Konstantin v. Poschinger

Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747
0171 1983476







<AscomZip-KPoschinger-2020-07-25-215733.zip>



Re: Open Driver Handbox?

Mike Dodd
 

On 7/27/2020 11:10 AM, Wayne Hixson via groups.io wrote:
I know I should know this, but how the heck can you open the ASCOM
driver handbox?
Do you mean the TUI with the direction buttons?

in my installation, the GUI opens automatically when I connect to the mount in any application (e.g., SkyX, ACP, or the AP Jog utility). That GUI has direction buttons to slew the mount at a rate set in a nearby dropdown box.

If your driver opens minimized, look for it in the system tray, then click to maximize it.

Is this what you're asking about?

--- Mike


Altitude limits feature enhancement #APCC

Wayne Hixson
 

Is there a way to have APCC show the time remaining for the telescope rise above the altitude map? I’d like to skew to an object when it’s still behind the trees and see how long I have to wait to begin imaging. 


thanks, Wayne


Open Driver Handbox?

Wayne Hixson
 

I know I should know this, but how the heck can you open the ASCOM driver handbox?


Re: Should Park 1 and Park 4 be parallel?

Roland Christen
 

You have to first level the scope in Park2 position. Actually you have to level the dovetail mount since the scope could be off square with respect to the mount. In Park2 the counterweight shaft needs to be pointing exactly down..

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Forrest <foman100@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2020 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Should Park 1 and Park 4 be parallel?

Yes, I have confirmed the mount is level.  I am testing this now inside on a concrete platform.  I get consistently different results in daytime alignment routines depending on whether I use Park 1/2 or Park 4/2.  If I level the CW shaft in Park 1, then slew to Park 4, the CW shaft is about 3-4° off level (measured with a digital clinometer.

Forrest


Re: Should Park 1 and Park 4 be parallel?

Roland Christen
 

The only time there is a difference is when the altitude of the polar axis is not set for the local latitude. In other words, his polar axis is set too high or too low by 1/2 of the observed difference.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Worsel via groups.io <bryancashion@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2020 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Should Park 1 and Park 4 be parallel?

I think Forrest is asking if it is normal to have a 3-4 degree difference between Park 1 and 4.

I normally do not use Park 1.  However, I went out and moved back and forth between 1 and 4.  The difference is less than 20 a-s. across both axes.

However, I defer to A-P on the real answer!

Bryan


Re: Should Park 1 and Park 4 be parallel?

Luke Leege
 

Is your OTA orthogonal? If you measure level in P1 on the OTA and the scope is not orthogonal, when you slew to P4, the tube my not be level. I always measure level on the saddle. It is more likely to be orthogonal to the Dec axis.


Re: Any APPM/ZWO Camera Users Out There?

lmbrabec@...
 

Thanks much Ray for pointing this out about the RA and DEC information.  I was not sure if it was needed or not when the error messages popped up that it was not present in the FITS file.  Hoping to get out some night this week if we get some clear skies and try it out.  Thanks again for the help!  Scott


Re: Any APPM/ZWO Camera Users Out There?

Ray Gralak
 

Scott,

Sorry my time has been extremely limited this week.

RA and Dec are passed by APPM to pinpoint before plate solving so there should be no need for them in the FITS file.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of lmbrabec@hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 4:00 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any APPM/ZWO Camera Users Out There?

Ray: Thank you so much for doing this! I fired up the mount and camera and tried the updated APCC Pro you
attached. The Date-Obs. issue is resolved but still not seeing the RA/DEC data in the FITS image header. I'm
attaching what I saw for messages. I should note that I had un-parked the mount and then went to APPM and tried
plate solving under the run tab with the ASCOM camera selected and ASI camera (1). I don't know if this is any
big deal but with ASI camera (1) selected it shows up as ASCOM.ASICamera2.Camera. The FITS image header
though does call out camera (1). Is there some setting I might have incorrect in APCC that would cause the RA
and DEC coordinates not to show up in the FITS image header or is this something to manually add like you did
for the Date-Obs.? Thanks so much again Ray for all that you do and please work my issue in whenever it fits
(bad choice of words!) in to your schedule. All the best, Scott


Re: Any APPM/ZWO Camera Users Out There?

 

'allo what's this then. an update to APCC?? 

;-)



On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:19 AM Ray Gralak <groups3@...> wrote:
Hi Scott,

Try this version please:

http://www.apastrosoftware.com/apcc_download/APCC_Pro_Setup_1.8.4.1.exe

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of lmbrabec@...
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 9:29 AM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any APPM/ZWO Camera Users Out There?
>
> It is starting to look that way but wished I could get the ASCOM camera driver in APPM to work like the manual
> says.  I already paid the $150 to get the full version PinPoint as heard this was quicker than Plate Solve 2 through
> SGP (I don't know if there is any truth to it).  Also being a N.I.N.A user I was trying to avoid adding another
> acquisition program. But your right as might have to bite the bullet and go down that path if I can't get this to go.
> I'm hoping Roland or Ray will chime in and give guidance as I'm out of ideas.  Thanks so much again Dean!  Scott
>






--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: Any APPM/ZWO Camera Users Out There?

lmbrabec@...
 

Ray:  Thank you so much for doing this!  I fired up the mount and camera and tried the updated APCC Pro you attached. The Date-Obs. issue is resolved but still not seeing the RA/DEC data in the FITS image header.  I'm attaching what I saw for messages. I should note that I had un-parked the mount and then went to APPM and tried plate solving under the run tab with the ASCOM camera selected and ASI camera (1).  I don't know if this is any big deal but with ASI camera (1) selected it shows up as ASCOM.ASICamera2.Camera.  The FITS image header though does call out camera (1).  Is there some setting I might have incorrect in APCC that would cause the RA and DEC coordinates not to show up in the FITS image header or is this something to manually add like you did for the Date-Obs.?  Thanks so much again Ray for all that you do and please work my issue in whenever it fits (bad choice of words!) in to your schedule.  All the best, Scott


Re: Should Park 1 and Park 4 be parallel?

Forrest
 

Yes, I have confirmed the mount is level.  I am testing this now inside on a concrete platform.  I get consistently different results in daytime alignment routines depending on whether I use Park 1/2 or Park 4/2.  If I level the CW shaft in Park 1, then slew to Park 4, the CW shaft is about 3-4° off level (measured with a digital clinometer.

Forrest


Re: Keypad fiber-optics #Keypad

 

Yes, Mike, that is correct.

Clear Skies,

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Rd
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Dodd
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 12:31 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Keypad fiber-optics #Keypad

On 7/26/2020 12:51 PM, Ken Murfitt wrote:
While changing out the battery on one of my keypads, I wondered what the
fiber-optic bundle is for? I thought they might be for the display
matrix but the vacuum display is fluorescent by itself. Just curious.
Lighting the KEYS, I believe.

--- Mike


Re: Any APPM/ZWO Camera Users Out There?

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Scott,

Try this version please:

http://www.apastrosoftware.com/apcc_download/APCC_Pro_Setup_1.8.4.1.exe

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of lmbrabec@hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 9:29 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Any APPM/ZWO Camera Users Out There?

It is starting to look that way but wished I could get the ASCOM camera driver in APPM to work like the manual
says. I already paid the $150 to get the full version PinPoint as heard this was quicker than Plate Solve 2 through
SGP (I don't know if there is any truth to it). Also being a N.I.N.A user I was trying to avoid adding another
acquisition program. But your right as might have to bite the bullet and go down that path if I can't get this to go.
I'm hoping Roland or Ray will chime in and give guidance as I'm out of ideas. Thanks so much again Dean! Scott


Re: Should Park 1 and Park 4 be parallel?

Worsel
 

It occurred to me (duhh) that your difference is measured using a level, not the mount readings.

If that is so, then would not that mean the mount is not level?  This is not a big deal for PA.

Bryan


Re: Should Park 1 and Park 4 be parallel?

Worsel
 

I think Forrest is asking if it is normal to have a 3-4 degree difference between Park 1 and 4.

I normally do not use Park 1.  However, I went out and moved back and forth between 1 and 4.  The difference is less than 20 a-s. across both axes.

However, I defer to A-P on the real answer!

Bryan


Re: Any APPM/ZWO Camera Users Out There?

lmbrabec@...
 

Thanks so much Ray for any help you can give me!  It's interesting that when I first started looking for help on this I approached the PinPoint forum about this issue they pointed me to the imaging acquisition program as writing the FITS image header (APPM, see attached feedback I got from their forum). That's why I came to this forum. Hopefully you can understand my confusion and by no means am a software expert! I apologize if I've been barking up the wrong tree!  All the best and thanks for your help, Scott


Re: Keypad fiber-optics #Keypad

Mike Dodd
 

On 7/26/2020 12:51 PM, Ken Murfitt wrote:
While changing out the battery on one of my keypads, I wondered what the
fiber-optic bundle is for? I thought they might be for the display
matrix but the vacuum display is fluorescent by itself. Just curious.
Lighting the KEYS, I believe.

--- Mike


Re: Should Park 1 and Park 4 be parallel?

Michael Hambrick <mike.hambrick@...>
 

Yes, Park 1 and Park 4 are parallel with the OTA pointing north (Park 1) or south (Park 2). In the Park 2 position the OTA is also parallel to the ground facing East, but it is in the counterweight down position.





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