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CCDWare site Trojan?

George LaBelle
 

I use Mawarebytes which is reporting that ccdware.com has a trojan.

I'd like to get PEMPRO V3.

Anyone visited this site recently? Had a problem? The trojan, according to Malwarebytes was discovered in February.
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George
Prineville, Oregon


Re: Star Eccentricity Help

Roland Christen
 

Are you using a separate guide scope? If so, you will probably not get round stars. Off-axis guider is almost a requirement for SCTs.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2020 11:32 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Star Eccentricity Help

It seems most of my subs (1 min - 2 min) have eccentricities between .5 and .6. Now at .6 I'm throwing those subs out as you can see they are not round to the naked eye. I've been forced to keep .55 and below otherwise I'm throwing out over 50% of my subs.

My imaging gear is reasonably good (AP100 GTO AE / FLI ML16200 / C11 Edge with mirror locked down).

I've been using PHD2 for guiding and usually the RA/Dec and below .4 arc/sec and often sub .3 arc/sec. The AE's seem to be working just fine as a run in PEMPro shows a flat line. I checked the PA recently - but might not have since putting the C11 on the mount - would that be an area to check to see if it is askew?

What should I try and do to improve the eccentricities or is this pretty much the norm for a .44 arc/sec image scale?

I haven't redone a mapping model for the C11 yet - would that help at all?


Re: Star Eccentricity Help

 

Hi Tony

are you running a tracking model with this mount?

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 11:05 PM Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...> wrote:

Sorry, I sent the wrong log earlier. Heres the correct one.

 

Tony

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Valente
Sent: August 8, 2020 10:29 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Star Eccentricity Help

 

Hi Tony

 

do you have a representative PHD guidelog you can share? 

 

Brian

 

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 9:32 PM Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...> wrote:

It seems most of my subs (1 min - 2 min) have eccentricities between .5 and .6. Now at .6 I'm throwing those subs out as you can see they are not round to the naked eye. I've been forced to keep .55 and below otherwise I'm throwing out over 50% of my subs.

My imaging gear is reasonably good (AP100 GTO AE / FLI ML16200 / C11 Edge with mirror locked down).

I've been using PHD2 for guiding and usually the RA/Dec and below .4 arc/sec and often sub .3 arc/sec. The AE's seem to be working just fine as a run in PEMPro shows a flat line. I checked the PA recently - but might not have since putting the C11 on the mount - would that be an area to check to see if it is askew?

What should I try and do to improve the eccentricities or is this pretty much the norm for a .44 arc/sec image scale?

I haven't redone a mapping model for the C11 yet - would that help at all?


 

--

Brian 

 

 

 

Brian Valente



--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: GTOCP3 Repair?

Dean Jacobsen
 
Edited

Glad it worked Kevin.  Anyone who has ever had a mount with a CP3 unit knows of the 12v power input hack.  [I am assuming that it was the 12v input and not the cable contacts].  Sometimes I would get the yellow indicator light and sometimes the mount would just start working wonky but the indicator light was red.  "Adjusting" the center pole on the CP3 12v input always worked.
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Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: GTOCP3 Repair?

KHursh
 

Hey Dean,

That worked beautifully. Thanks for the lo-tech solution!

Kevin


Re: Star Eccentricity Help

Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
 

Sorry, I sent the wrong log earlier. Heres the correct one.

 

Tony

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Valente
Sent: August 8, 2020 10:29 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Star Eccentricity Help

 

Hi Tony

 

do you have a representative PHD guidelog you can share? 

 

Brian

 

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 9:32 PM Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...> wrote:

It seems most of my subs (1 min - 2 min) have eccentricities between .5 and .6. Now at .6 I'm throwing those subs out as you can see they are not round to the naked eye. I've been forced to keep .55 and below otherwise I'm throwing out over 50% of my subs.

My imaging gear is reasonably good (AP100 GTO AE / FLI ML16200 / C11 Edge with mirror locked down).

I've been using PHD2 for guiding and usually the RA/Dec and below .4 arc/sec and often sub .3 arc/sec. The AE's seem to be working just fine as a run in PEMPro shows a flat line. I checked the PA recently - but might not have since putting the C11 on the mount - would that be an area to check to see if it is askew?

What should I try and do to improve the eccentricities or is this pretty much the norm for a .44 arc/sec image scale?

I haven't redone a mapping model for the C11 yet - would that help at all?


 

--

Brian 

 

 

 

Brian Valente


Re: Tracking issues with AP900

Chanan Greenberg
 

 
Mystery solved. It was balance And mirror flop. One of my plates was loose and pointing south allowed some motion which pushed things off balance. On top of that mirror flop on this SCT is really bad specifically pointing south below the celestial equator. I tightened everything up, checked my balance moved the camera to the refractor to take out the SCT out of the equation. Result: Nice round stars for up to 2-3 minutes unguided. So no issue with the mount. Thanks to all for all the advice and help. 


Re: Star Eccentricity Help

 

Hi Tony

do you have a representative PHD guidelog you can share? 

Brian

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 9:32 PM Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...> wrote:
It seems most of my subs (1 min - 2 min) have eccentricities between .5 and .6. Now at .6 I'm throwing those subs out as you can see they are not round to the naked eye. I've been forced to keep .55 and below otherwise I'm throwing out over 50% of my subs.

My imaging gear is reasonably good (AP100 GTO AE / FLI ML16200 / C11 Edge with mirror locked down).

I've been using PHD2 for guiding and usually the RA/Dec and below .4 arc/sec and often sub .3 arc/sec. The AE's seem to be working just fine as a run in PEMPro shows a flat line. I checked the PA recently - but might not have since putting the C11 on the mount - would that be an area to check to see if it is askew?

What should I try and do to improve the eccentricities or is this pretty much the norm for a .44 arc/sec image scale?

I haven't redone a mapping model for the C11 yet - would that help at all?



--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: GTOCP3 Repair?

Dean Jacobsen
 

Kevin, if you haven't done this already, try cleaning all of the contacts for the motor cables and also spread out the center pin on the 12V input a little bit with a small flat bladed screwdriver to make sure you are getting good voltage to the unit.
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Star Eccentricity Help

Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
 

It seems most of my subs (1 min - 2 min) have eccentricities between .5 and .6. Now at .6 I'm throwing those subs out as you can see they are not round to the naked eye. I've been forced to keep .55 and below otherwise I'm throwing out over 50% of my subs.

My imaging gear is reasonably good (AP100 GTO AE / FLI ML16200 / C11 Edge with mirror locked down).

I've been using PHD2 for guiding and usually the RA/Dec and below .4 arc/sec and often sub .3 arc/sec. The AE's seem to be working just fine as a run in PEMPro shows a flat line. I checked the PA recently - but might not have since putting the C11 on the mount - would that be an area to check to see if it is askew?

What should I try and do to improve the eccentricities or is this pretty much the norm for a .44 arc/sec image scale?

I haven't redone a mapping model for the C11 yet - would that help at all?


GTOCP3 Repair?

KHursh
 

So, I was setting up the new-to-me 900GTO today and got a shiny new power supply and hooked everything up. When I plugged in the CP3 to the power source, it kinda flickered, but was on. I tried a test slew and it was OK in RA, but nothing on DEC. Uh oh. I moved the cables around and was getting nothing consistent. I then plugged in the CP2 that came with it and BINGO, everything worked. So, now I have to figure out what's wrong with the CP3. Do they still repair these? 

Kevin


Re: Pier flip before meridian crossing is not possible with SGP and Mach1

Roland Christen
 

Set your meridian delay 1 hour east, then re-enter the object when the mount hits that point and the mount will flip.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: eckhard.voelcker via groups.io <eckhard.voelcker@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2020 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Pier flip before meridian crossing is not possible with SGP and Mach1

Bill,

I currently have no limits configured. 

I would like the pier flip to happen approximately an hour early so I can make sure everything is alright before it runs unattended for the rest of the night. At some point it should stop and return to Park 3. I am in the Southern Hemisphere and want the mount to track an object as it moves to the West.

E.


Re: Pier flip before meridian crossing is not possible with SGP and Mach1

eckhard.voelcker@...
 

Bill,

I currently have no limits configured. 

I would like the pier flip to happen approximately an hour early so I can make sure everything is alright before it runs unattended for the rest of the night. At some point it should stop and return to Park 3. I am in the Southern Hemisphere and want the mount to track an object as it moves to the West.

E.


Re: Pier flip before meridian crossing is not possible with SGP and Mach1

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Eckard,

Thanks for your feedback!

No matter your background, some of the concepts in astro-imaging are likely to be new and require some effort to conceptualize. The meridian limits feature in APCC is unique to Astro-Physics mounts because they can be used to image in counterweight-up positions.

The video I linked to shows how to force East-side pier flips. Although that seemed what Leo wants to do, it may or may not be what you, or others, want to do.

The purpose of the meridian limits tab is to set up the tracking limit and flip points for all scope declinations when the mount is on either side of the pier. When you open the Meridian Limits editor graph, the meridian limit lines show the mount flip points for each pier side at each declination. Is this concept clear to you? It is imperative that you understand this before explaining what the controls do.

BTW, the video is not the primary documentation. In most group boxes there is a tiny "?" button in the upper right, which will take you to context-sensitive help for controls in the group box.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of eckhard.voelcker via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:10 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Pier flip before meridian crossing is not possible with SGP and Mach1

Ray,

I have the same problem and I have watched the video as well. I still can't figure out how I am supposed to set this
up. I had Howard help me with it in a Remote Session. He couldn't figure how to set this up too and said, he will
come back to me on this. He probably is busy with lots of things because I haven't heard from him yet.

I can't enable checkboxes - probably because there is a conflict with another checkbox, but because there is no
"How can´t check this because ...." message I can only guess.

I love my mount, it is a fantastic piece of engineering. But the only software in my imaging stack that constantly
gives me problems and frustration is APCC. I am sure APCC and APCC pro have great functionality. Why don't
you write a text here, with screenshots for every screen to be configured? Start with a clean installation, not having
preset limits etc. and explain how to set this up in an easy to follow way? And please, use a real mount and not the
simulator.

I am an amateur when it comes to mounts, astro-photography etc. But I have some qualifications in software. I
was the CEO of a commercial software vendor for 16 years and a software CTO for Dell Computers in the last
years of my professional career. I managed projects where software was used by millions of users and I have
written my fair share of Windows code too. I am happy to give you feedback for any training material you build for
APCC.

Best regards,
Eckhard Völcker

http://voelcker.com


PEM not turning on via V2 ascom driver?

Daniel Marcus
 

Question on how to run PEM on an AP1200 with CP3 and V chip.
Seems like PEM does not turn on via the driver?? or PEMPro all the time??????
Used PEMPro3 to get a nice pec curve ( I think it is good anyway). Uploaded curve to the mount. Had TheSkyX controlling the AP1200 and an ATIK 383L camera, connected to the mount via the ascom V2 (5.30.10) driver. and told the ascom driver to use PEM and pressed the set button. The tests showed that NO PEM was present. Set it in the hand controller, and the issue remained. Ran out of time + clouds and went home.
Came back the following week. Ran a test pointing just west of the meridian and at the equator with PEM set to off. Stars were oval, used the ascom v2 driver to turn on PEM + used PEMPro3 to turn on the PEM, ran a test again- stars nice and round. Moved scope to just east of the meridian at the zenith, (PEM was still on) and ran  test - stars nice and round! Turned off PEC via ascom driver and redid test. Stars were oval again. Now went to M13 just for fun and set PEM back on via ascom driver - ran test stars were oval @#$%. Fired up PEMPro3  and used it to tell the mount to turn on PEM. Still the same problem - PEM does not look like it is running. Of course the clouds came rolling in as usual and put an end to testing. Will be out the this Monday to try again. Perplexing - turning on PEM seems pretty easy, but looks like once I turn it off, I can't get it back on???? Must be doing something wrong, just don't know what.
If I remember correctly the hand controller is set up for autoconnect - will have to double check it next time I am at the Obs.
Anyone have any suggestions?? or had this happen to them?
Daniel Marcus


Re: Pier flip before meridian crossing is not possible with SGP and Mach1

Luca Marinelli
 

Hi Leo,

From looking at your configuration, I think you need to change the flip offset to a value larger than the duration of your exposures. Say you are taking 5 minute exposures, you want the flip offset to be 10 minutes or so, so that an exposure started on one side of the meridian flip limit will not go over the other side before it is completed. Also, a zero flip offset as you have in your screenshot will create a situation where SGP may not have enough time to communicate with the mount and start the meridian flip before the mount sends out messages that the meridian limit has been reached, possibly creating an error condition for SGP regardless of how short your exposures are.

Also, I know Ray in his video has the action when meridian limit is reached as "Just Warn" but I would be careful with that choice. If you are running your mount unattended, if I understand this correctly, there is no protection against tracking into the pier in a condition of telescope West of pier, pointing West. If all the objects you image are within the East limits and you start every imaging session with telescope East of pier, pointing East CW up and track to the morning, then there is no problem. I know this is the exception to the rule for me, not my standard imaging situation.

I will give a shot to the setup presented by Ray in the video and see if it works with SGP. I don't think I have ever been successful at starting to image in the East CW up with SGP but my meridian flip limits are probably set up more appropriately as a safety limit in the West than a opportunity limit in the East.

Cheers,

Luca


Re: Pier flip before meridian crossing is not possible with SGP and Mach1

Bill Long
 

How do you have APCC configured? 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of eckhard.voelcker via groups.io <eckhard.voelcker@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:10 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Pier flip before meridian crossing is not possible with SGP and Mach1
 
Ray,

I have the same problem and I have watched the video as well. I still can't figure out how I am supposed to set this up. I had Howard help me with it in a Remote Session. He couldn't figure how to set this up too and said, he will come back to me on this. He probably is busy with lots of things because I haven't heard from him yet. 

I can't enable checkboxes - probably because there is a conflict with another checkbox, but because there is no "How can´t check this because ...." message I can only guess. 

I love my mount, it is a fantastic piece of engineering. But the only software in my imaging stack that constantly gives me problems and frustration is APCC. I am sure APCC and APCC pro have great functionality. Why don't you write a text here, with screenshots for every screen to be configured? Start with a clean installation, not having preset limits etc. and explain how to set this up in an easy to follow way? And please, use a real mount and not the simulator. 

I am an amateur when it comes to mounts, astro-photography etc. But I have some qualifications in software. I was the CEO of a commercial software vendor for 16 years and a software CTO for Dell Computers in the last years of my professional career. I managed projects where software was used by millions of users and I have written my fair share of Windows code too. I am happy to give you feedback for any training material you build for APCC. 

Best regards,
Eckhard Völcker

http://voelcker.com


Re: Pier flip before meridian crossing is not possible with SGP and Mach1

eckhard.voelcker@...
 

Ray,

I have the same problem and I have watched the video as well. I still can't figure out how I am supposed to set this up. I had Howard help me with it in a Remote Session. He couldn't figure how to set this up too and said, he will come back to me on this. He probably is busy with lots of things because I haven't heard from him yet. 

I can't enable checkboxes - probably because there is a conflict with another checkbox, but because there is no "How can´t check this because ...." message I can only guess. 

I love my mount, it is a fantastic piece of engineering. But the only software in my imaging stack that constantly gives me problems and frustration is APCC. I am sure APCC and APCC pro have great functionality. Why don't you write a text here, with screenshots for every screen to be configured? Start with a clean installation, not having preset limits etc. and explain how to set this up in an easy to follow way? And please, use a real mount and not the simulator. 

I am an amateur when it comes to mounts, astro-photography etc. But I have some qualifications in software. I was the CEO of a commercial software vendor for 16 years and a software CTO for Dell Computers in the last years of my professional career. I managed projects where software was used by millions of users and I have written my fair share of Windows code too. I am happy to give you feedback for any training material you build for APCC. 

Best regards,
Eckhard Völcker

http://voelcker.com


Re: Power connector 900GTO

Woody Schlom
 

I think I got my locking threaded 2.1 x 5.5 connectors through Amazon.  And then I made a couple of pig-tails to PP connectors. 

 

Woody

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of khursh via groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Power connector 900GTO

 

I think the 2.1 x 5.5 mm is the most elegant solution. I will do the ring connectors in the short term and fashion or purchase the 'real' connector.


Re: Power connector 900GTO

KHursh
 

I think the 2.1 x 5.5 mm is the most elegant solution. I will do the ring connectors in the short term and fashion or purchase the 'real' connector.

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