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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Steve Reilly
 

So I did as instructed and it appears to have worked. The only difference is the UDP /TCP connection. So now after all this time I have to wonder what happened that made UDP totally unreliable? And not sporadically but constantly. I'm not questioning your knowledge but rather my understanding of what and why. Now I've been disconnected for a while and just reconnected to the mount but no initializing of the mount. Does the power need to be disconnected/reconnected to prompt this again?


-Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:25 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Steve,

I don't know what you are trying to show in that screen shot?

Try these steps exactly:

1, Disconnect APCC from the mount.
2. Set TCP as the connection type.
3. Power off the mount and wait 5 seconds.
4. Power on the mount and wait another 5 seconds.
5. Connect APCC to the mount.

APCC should initialize and unpark the mount after the countdown.

If not unpark attach the APCC log (no need to zip, it should be short). No need for a video, just the log will be fine.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Steve Reilly
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:18 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Here's the window capture but the warning disappears within 4-5 seconds.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray
Gralak
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Steve,

You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all those
apps and try APCC by itself. I've said this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests!

Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup APCC
to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT connected. Also, use TCP instead
of UDP because commands can be lost using UDP and for the purpose of this test we want to be sure no commands are lost.

Shut the mount off, then power it on.

APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that?

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Steve Reilly
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:28 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Ray,



From our earlier email I had said that I could not unpark using APCC
and that still holds true today. I did install both the newest APCC
versions and ASCOM driver this afternoon and repeated the test. I
had done this test before and after updates
today. To clear up any misunderstanding what I did I used Bandicam to record the tests.
The same results so I just uploaded the newest versions test as they
both have the same results. I can park when unparked but I can not
unpark in APCC under any circumstances I know of. I can park and
unpark at will with the driver. I can park in APCC after it's
unparked. See this video
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ev8cnm27a56hq1/bandicam%202020-04-28%201
5-
54-01-424.avi?dl=0>

I hope this sheds some light on the issue. If I did something
incorrect please advise. Also as a point of interest I disabled APCC
from my startup script for ACP Expert and have been able to image
where with it not so much as it hangs
waiting on a mount response to parking/unparking which can affect if my roll off roof closes or not.
Maybe my driver configuration? But that works by itself….



-Steve





-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray
Gralak
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC



Hi Dan,



I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.
Had
to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!


So, the problem is not with the CP4 or the software, but likely your connection.



I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter
presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?


This is going to require you to learn a little about networking and
your home router. That's going to be up to you to do that research.
:-)



That said, I suggest you follow what I suggested to Jack in a post
yesterday. That is put your computer and CP4 on your local LAN and
configure your home router to use DHCP
(usually they are set that way by default).



Then APCC should be able to find your CP4 and communicate correctly.
One caveat... when using DHCP the router may assign a different IP
address to the CP4 each time the CP4 is power on. If you don't want
to use the Find CP4/5 button in APCC when that happens then I
suggest you configure your router to provide the CP4 with a static
IP address. This will reserve that IP address for the
CP4 and it won't change as long as you use that router.



-Ray Gralak

Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro <https://www.astro-
physics.com/apcc-pro>

Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
<https://www.ccdware.com>; Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;





-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
[mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf

Of Dan Simpson
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 9:39 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Hi Ray,
I did try using a USB cable yesterday but got no response from the mount.
I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.
Had
to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!
I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter
presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?
Thanks,
Dan
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 9:30 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com <mailto:groups3@gralak.com> > wrote:
Dan,
It sounds like you may have a network problem. So, did
you try the
alternative I suggested? That is connecting APCC via its USB or
serial port? If that works, or doesn't work,
helps isolate the problem.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
<https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>;

Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
<https://www.ccdware.com>;
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:46 PM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>
> Hi Ray,
> I guess my first question would be: what changed? I
can't remember
the last time I dug into the network settings.
> I've been using this exact same setup (GTOCP4,
Cat5e, couple of
network switches and a dual NIC) for well over
> a year. Again, I did nothing, consciously, to change it.
>
> In order to simplify things I've run a single
straight Cat5e cable
between the mount and the computer. I also
> disconnected the two other Cat5e cables just to be sure.
>
> The one thing that changed right away is that
clicking the Find
button in the APCC Connection window shows the
> mount is available. However, I still cannot Unpark
the mount with
either the APCC button or the ASCOM
V2
> button.
>
> I tried Unparking with both programs using the Last
Park and Park 4 (my keypad needs an
upgrade).
No

> response.
>
> I also tried to first Park and then Unpark. Again, no response.
>
> Reconnecting the Internet-RigRunner cable - to the
motherboard port - caused the connection to
fail.

> Reconnecting the Digital Logger cable did not affect the connection.
>
> Your video lasted a lot longer than my test. I can,
apparently,
connect the mount to APCC and AP V2 but I am
> not able to use that connection in any meaningful way.
>
> I've again left some images in my Dropbox folder.
They show the LAN
settings and what happened when I tried
> Parking and Unparking. Hopefully, there might be a clue there.
>
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%
20
Captures.zip?dl=0
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%2
0C
aptures.zip?dl=0>

>
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:44 AM Ray Gralak
<groups3@gralak.com <mailto:groups3@gralak.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Dan,
>
> One more thought...
>
> if there is a router on your LAN with an internet connection, what is the subnet of the LAN you
are

using?
> (eg. 192.168.1.0)
>
> If the CP4 is setup to accept a DHCP address it should be provided one by your router. It
shouldn't

need to
> be on the 169.254.1.x LAN.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
<https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>;

> Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>;
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;

>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-
gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:57 AM
> > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
> >
> > Ray,
> > Thanks for the video. I was unaware of the Find feature in the Connection box which is very
nice.

> >
> > Unfortunately, when I click on the Find button the window pops up but does not show any
connection
> options.
> > I've attached a snip.
> >
> > Power is definitely on, Cat5e cable is blinking. Keypad is on.
> >
> > I also tried eliminating a couple of network switches with a straight run between the computer
and

the
> mount, but
> > no joy.
> >
> > Closing the Find window and clicking on Mount Connect shows the mount as Parked,
Tracking=Zero but
> the
> > APCC Unpark button is non-functional.
> >
> > I went ahead and connected the AP V2 ASCOM Driver and tried Unpark. Again, the Mount
Info

Park
> shows
> > Unparked for a moment but quickly reverts to Parked.
> >
> > I tried connecting TheSkyX and found I could connect and perform a successful goto.
> >
> > I tried Parking with TSX and it sent the mount to the Park position but the slew message said
Parking
> and never
> > went to Parked. TSX remained frozen in this state.
> >
> > So, what I believe is wrong is the GTOCP4 unit is hosed. There seems to be a
communication

issue
> where it is not
> > reporting or recording the current state. It may be something in the firmware or it may be a
physical

> problem. All of
> > this is way beyond my pay grade. I think I need to contact AP directly and try to work through
this

with
> them. Do
> > you think that is a reasonable conclusion?
> >
> > Thanks for all the time and help.
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:46 PM Dan Simpson via groups.io
<dbs2144=gmail.com@groups.io
<mailto:dbs2144=gmail.com@groups.io> >

wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ray, I'll take a look later this evening.
> >
> > I will say I did forget to check that there was power to the mount when I first started up
today.

The
> runaway
> > at the end of my last session had caused me to hit the power switch on the 12vdc power
supply

not my
> Digital
> > Logger switch. When I switched on the DL this morning it faithfully switched on but the power
supply
> switch was
> > still off. Took me a bit to figure it out.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:23 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com
<mailto:groups3@gralak.com> > wrote:

> >
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > Here is a link to the youtube video demonstrating park and unpark.
> >
> > To provide a baseline try to perform the operations I do in the video *exactly* the way
I

have
> done
> > them.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE <https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE>;
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-
physics.com/apcc- <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc->;

pro
> > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>;
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>








Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Ray Gralak
 
Edited

You power cycled the mount and APCC could not unpark your mount using TCP?

If so, please attach the APCC log file so I can see what happened.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Reilly
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:29 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Done and done with same results. The UDP setting was used by Howard when we had problems with the
system. That’s beyond my paygrade and seeing how all was working the other night with APCC out of the picture
I didn’t want to lose any more imaging time as we’ve had dismal weather the past few months.

The screen shot is what I see when I opened Initialize Settings. Already set as you said. And you can clearly see
auto connect for the ASCOM driver is unchecked.



-Steve





From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:18 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC



Steve,



You can edit the initialize settings from APCC's Settings tab like in this screen shot:







Make sure unpark from last park is configured. Also, don't forget to uncheck Auto-Connect in the AP V2 Deiver
group box!



Then power cycle the mount.



The purpose of the apps being disconnected is so there is only one log file to look at. I don't care if you have ACP
running as long as the ASCOM driver is not connected to APCC.



-Ray Gralak

Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com

Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver





-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Reilly
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:10 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Well if I could initialize the mount I would but I get a notice that it can not initialize the mount unless RA=0 and
DEC=90. The mount is parked where it always is at Park4.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Steve,
You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all those apps and try APCC by itself. I've said
this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests!
Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup APCC to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT
connected. Also, use TCP instead of UDP because commands can be lost using UDP and for the purpose of
this

test we want to be sure no commands are lost.
Shut the mount off, then power it on.
APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that?
-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Steve Reilly
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:28 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Ray,
From our earlier email I had said that I could not unpark using APCC
and that still holds true today. I did install both the newest APCC
versions and ASCOM driver this afternoon and repeated the test. I had done this test before and after
updates

today. To clear up any misunderstanding what I did I used Bandicam to record the tests.
The same results so I just uploaded the newest versions test as they
both have the same results. I can park when unparked but I can not
unpark in APCC under any circumstances I know of. I can park and
unpark at will with the driver. I can park in APCC after it's
unparked. See this video
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ev8cnm27a56hq1/bandicam%202020-04-28%2015-
54-01-424.avi?dl=0>
I hope this sheds some light on the issue. If I did something
incorrect please advise. Also as a point of interest I disabled APCC
from my startup script for ACP Expert and have been able to image where with it not so much as it hangs
waiting on a mount response to parking/unparking which can affect if my roll off roof closes or not.
Maybe my driver configuration? But that works by itself….
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray
Gralak
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Hi Dan,
I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.
Had
to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!
So, the problem is not with the CP4 or the software, but likely your connection.
I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter
presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?
This is going to require you to learn a little about networking and
your home router. That's going to be up to you to do that research.
:-)
That said, I suggest you follow what I suggested to Jack in a post
yesterday. That is put your computer and CP4 on your local LAN and configure your home router to use
DHCP

(usually they are set that way by default).
Then APCC should be able to find your CP4 and communicate correctly.
One caveat... when using DHCP the router may assign a different IP
address to the CP4 each time the CP4 is power on. If you don't want
to use the Find CP4/5 button in APCC when that happens then I suggest
you configure your router to provide the CP4 with a static IP address. This will reserve that IP address for the
CP4 and it won't change as long as you use that router.
-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro <https://www.astro-
physics.com/apcc-pro>
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
<https://www.ccdware.com>; Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;
-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
[mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf
Of Dan Simpson
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 9:39 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Hi Ray,
I did try using a USB cable yesterday but got no response from the mount.
I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.
Had
to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!
I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter
presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?
Thanks,
Dan
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 9:30 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com <mailto:groups3@gralak.com
<mailto:groups3@gralak.com%20%3cmailto:groups3@gralak.com> > > wrote:

Dan,
It sounds like you may have a network problem. So, did
you try the
alternative I suggested? That is connecting APCC via its USB or
serial port? If that works, or doesn't work,
helps isolate the problem.
-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
<https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>;
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
<https://www.ccdware.com>;
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson
> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:46 PM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>
> Hi Ray,
> I guess my first question would be: what changed? I
can't remember
the last time I dug into the network settings.
> I've been using this exact same setup (GTOCP4, Cat5e,
couple of
network switches and a dual NIC) for well over
> a year. Again, I did nothing, consciously, to change it.
>
> In order to simplify things I've run a single straight
Cat5e cable
between the mount and the computer. I also
> disconnected the two other Cat5e cables just to be sure.
>
> The one thing that changed right away is that clicking
the Find
button in the APCC Connection window shows the
> mount is available. However, I still cannot Unpark the
mount with
either the APCC button or the ASCOM
V2
> button.
>
> I tried Unparking with both programs using the Last Park and Park 4 (my keypad needs an
upgrade).
No
> response.
>
> I also tried to first Park and then Unpark. Again, no response.
>
> Reconnecting the Internet-RigRunner cable - to the motherboard port - caused the connection to
fail.
> Reconnecting the Digital Logger cable did not affect the connection.
>
> Your video lasted a lot longer than my test. I can,
apparently,
connect the mount to APCC and AP V2 but I am
> not able to use that connection in any meaningful way.
>
> I've again left some images in my Dropbox folder. They
show the LAN
settings and what happened when I tried
> Parking and Unparking. Hopefully, there might be a clue there.
>
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20
Captures.zip?dl=0
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20C
aptures.zip?dl=0>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:44 AM Ray Gralak
<groups3@gralak.com <mailto:groups3@gralak.com
<mailto:groups3@gralak.com%20%3cmailto:groups3@gralak.com> >

wrote:
>
>
> Dan,
>
> One more thought...
>
> if there is a router on your LAN with an internet connection, what is the subnet of the LAN you
are
using?
> (eg. 192.168.1.0)
>
> If the CP4 is setup to accept a DHCP address it should be provided one by your router. It
shouldn't
need to
> be on the 169.254.1.x LAN.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
<https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>;
> Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>;
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-
gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson
> > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:57 AM
> > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
> >
> > Ray,
> > Thanks for the video. I was unaware of the Find feature in the Connection box which is very
nice.
> >
> > Unfortunately, when I click on the Find button the window pops up but does not show any
connection
> options.
> > I've attached a snip.
> >
> > Power is definitely on, Cat5e cable is blinking. Keypad is on.
> >
> > I also tried eliminating a couple of network switches with a straight run between the
computer

and
the
> mount, but
> > no joy.
> >
> > Closing the Find window and clicking on Mount Connect shows the mount as Parked,
Tracking=Zero but
> the
> > APCC Unpark button is non-functional.
> >
> > I went ahead and connected the AP V2 ASCOM Driver and tried Unpark. Again, the Mount
Info
Park
> shows
> > Unparked for a moment but quickly reverts to Parked.
> >
> > I tried connecting TheSkyX and found I could connect and perform a successful goto.
> >
> > I tried Parking with TSX and it sent the mount to the Park position but the slew message
said

Parking
> and never
> > went to Parked. TSX remained frozen in this state.
> >
> > So, what I believe is wrong is the GTOCP4 unit is hosed. There seems to be a
communication
issue
> where it is not
> > reporting or recording the current state. It may be something in the firmware or it may be a
physical
> problem. All of
> > this is way beyond my pay grade. I think I need to contact AP directly and try to work
through

this
with
> them. Do
> > you think that is a reasonable conclusion?
> >
> > Thanks for all the time and help.
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:46 PM Dan Simpson via groups.io
<dbs2144=gmail.com@groups.io
<mailto:dbs2144=gmail.com@groups.io> >
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ray, I'll take a look later this evening.
> >
> > I will say I did forget to check that there was power to the mount when I first started up
today.
The
> runaway
> > at the end of my last session had caused me to hit the power switch on the 12vdc power
supply
not my
> Digital
> > Logger switch. When I switched on the DL this morning it faithfully switched on but the
power

supply
> switch was
> > still off. Took me a bit to figure it out.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:23 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com
<mailto:groups3@gralak.com> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > Here is a link to the youtube video demonstrating park and unpark.
> >
> > To provide a baseline try to perform the operations I do in the video *exactly* the
way

I
have
> done
> > them.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE <https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE>;
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-
physics.com/apcc- <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc->;
pro
> > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>;
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Steve Reilly
 

Done and done with same results. The UDP setting was used by Howard when we had problems with the system. That’s beyond my paygrade and seeing how all was working the other night with APCC out of the picture I didn’t want to lose any more imaging time as we’ve had dismal weather the past few months.

The screen shot is what I see when I opened Initialize Settings. Already set as you said. And you can clearly see auto connect for the ASCOM driver is unchecked.

 

-Steve

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:18 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

 

Steve,

 

You can edit the initialize settings from APCC's Settings tab like in this screen shot:

 

 

Make sure unpark from last park is configured. Also, don't forget to uncheck Auto-Connect in the AP V2 Deiver group box!

 

Then power cycle the mount.

 

The purpose of the apps being disconnected is so there is only one log file to look at. I don't care if you have ACP running as long as the ASCOM driver is not connected to APCC.

 

-Ray Gralak

Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com

Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Reilly

> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:10 PM

> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

>

> Well if I could initialize the mount I would but I get a notice that it can not initialize the mount unless RA=0 and

> DEC=90. The mount is parked where it always is at Park4.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak

> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:50 PM

> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

>

> Steve,

>

> You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all those apps and try APCC by itself. I've said

> this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests!

>

> Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup APCC to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT

> connected. Also, use TCP instead of UDP because commands can be lost using UDP and for the purpose of this

> test we want to be sure no commands are lost.

>

> Shut the mount off, then power it on.

>

> APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that?

>

> -Ray Gralak

> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

> Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:

> https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

>

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf

> > Of Steve Reilly

> > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:28 PM

> > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

> >

> > Ray,

> >

> >

> >

> > From our earlier email I had said that I could not unpark using APCC

> > and that still holds true today. I did install both the newest APCC

> > versions and ASCOM driver this afternoon and repeated the test. I had done this test before and after updates

> today. To clear up any misunderstanding what I did I used Bandicam to record the tests.

> > The same results so I just uploaded the newest versions test as they

> > both have the same results. I can park when unparked but I can not

> > unpark in APCC under any circumstances I know of. I can park and

> > unpark at will with the driver. I can park in APCC after it's

> > unparked. See this video

> > <https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ev8cnm27a56hq1/bandicam%202020-04-28%2015-

> > 54-01-424.avi?dl=0>

> >

> > I hope this sheds some light on the issue. If I did something

> > incorrect please advise. Also as a point of interest I disabled APCC

> > from my startup script for ACP Expert and have been able to image where with it not so much as it hangs

> waiting on a mount response to parking/unparking which can affect if my roll off roof closes or not.

> > Maybe my driver configuration? But that works by itself….

> >

> >

> >

> > -Steve

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray

> > Gralak

> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:38 PM

> > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Dan,

> >

> >

> >

> > > I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.

> > > Had

> >

> > > to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!

> >

> >

> >

> > So, the problem is not with the CP4 or the software, but likely your connection.

> >

> >

> >

> > > I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter

> >

> > > presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?

> >

> >

> >

> > This is going to require you to learn a little about networking and

> > your home router. That's going to be up to you to do that research.

> > :-)

> >

> >

> >

> > That said, I suggest you follow what I suggested to Jack in a post

> > yesterday. That is put your computer and CP4 on your local LAN and configure your home router to use DHCP

> (usually they are set that way by default).

> >

> >

> >

> > Then APCC should be able to find your CP4 and communicate correctly.

> > One caveat... when using DHCP the router may assign a different IP

> > address to the CP4 each time the CP4 is power on.  If you don't want

> > to use the Find CP4/5 button in APCC when that happens then I suggest

> > you configure your router to provide the CP4 with a static IP address. This will reserve that IP address for the

> CP4 and it won't change as long as you use that router.

> >

> >

> >

> > -Ray Gralak

> >

> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):

> > https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro <https://www.astro-

> > physics.com/apcc-pro>

> >

> > Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com

> > <https://www.ccdware.com>  Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:

> > https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

> > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> >

> > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>

> > > [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io

> > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf

> >

> > > Of Dan Simpson

> >

> > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 9:39 AM

> >

> > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>

> >

> > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Hi Ray,

> >

> > > I did try using a USB cable yesterday but got no response from the mount.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.

> > > Had

> >

> > > to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter

> >

> > > presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?

> >

> > > Thanks,

> >

> > > Dan

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 9:30 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@... <mailto:groups3@...> > wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >             Dan,

> >

> > >

> >

> > >             It sounds like you may have a network problem. So, did

> > > you try the

> >

> > > alternative I suggested? That is connecting APCC via its USB or

> > > serial port? If that works, or doesn't work,

> > helps isolate the problem.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >             -Ray Gralak

> >

> > >             Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):

> > > https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

> > <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>

> >

> > >             Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com

> > > <https://www.ccdware.com>

> >

> > >             Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:

> >

> > > https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

> > > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >             > -----Original Message-----

> >

> > >             > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>  [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io

> > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> >

> > >             > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:46 PM

> >

> > >             > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>

> >

> > >             > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > Hi Ray,

> >

> > >             > I guess my first question would be: what changed? I

> > > can't remember

> >

> > > the last time I dug into the network settings.

> >

> > >             > I've been using this exact same setup (GTOCP4, Cat5e,

> > > couple of

> >

> > > network switches and a dual NIC) for well over

> >

> > >             > a year.  Again, I did nothing, consciously, to change it.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > In order to simplify things I've run a single straight

> > > Cat5e cable

> >

> > > between the mount and the computer. I also

> >

> > >             > disconnected the two other Cat5e cables just to be sure.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > The one thing that changed right away is that clicking

> > > the Find

> >

> > > button in the APCC Connection window shows the

> >

> > >             > mount is available. However, I still cannot Unpark the

> > > mount with

> >

> > > either the APCC button or the ASCOM

> >

> > > V2

> >

> > >             > button.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > I tried Unparking with both programs using the Last Park and Park 4 (my keypad needs an

> upgrade).

> > No

> >

> > >             > response.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > I also tried to first Park and then Unpark. Again, no response.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > Reconnecting the Internet-RigRunner cable - to the motherboard port - caused the connection to

> fail.

> >

> > >             > Reconnecting the Digital Logger cable did not affect the connection.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > Your video lasted a lot longer than my test. I can,

> > > apparently,

> >

> > > connect the mount to APCC and AP V2 but I am

> >

> > >             > not able to use that connection in any meaningful way.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > I've again left some images in my Dropbox folder. They

> > > show the LAN

> >

> > > settings and what happened when I tried

> >

> > >             > Parking and Unparking. Hopefully, there might be a clue there.

> >

> > >             >

> > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20

> > > Captures.zip?dl=0

> > <https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20C

> > aptures.zip?dl=0>

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > Thanks,

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:44 AM Ray Gralak

> > > <groups3@... <mailto:groups3@...>

> > > wrote:

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >       Dan,

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >       One more thought...

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >       if there is a router on your LAN with an internet connection, what is the subnet of the LAN you

> are

> >

> > > using?

> >

> > >             > (eg. 192.168.1.0)

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >       If the CP4 is setup to accept a DHCP address it should be provided one by your router. It

> > shouldn't

> >

> > > need to

> >

> > >             > be on the 169.254.1.x LAN.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >       -Ray Gralak

> >

> > >             >       Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

> > <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>

> >

> > >             >       Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>

> >

> > >             >       Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

> > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >       > -----Original Message-----

> >

> > >             >       > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>  [mailto:main@ap-

> gto.groups.io

> > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> >

> > >             >       > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:57 AM

> >

> > >             >       > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>

> >

> > >             >       > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > Ray,

> >

> > >             >       > Thanks for the video. I was unaware of the Find feature in the Connection box which is very

> > nice.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > Unfortunately, when I click on the Find button the window pops up but does not show any

> >

> > > connection

> >

> > >             > options.

> >

> > >             >       > I've attached a snip.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > Power is definitely on, Cat5e cable is blinking. Keypad is on.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > I also tried eliminating a couple of network switches with a straight run between the computer

> > and

> >

> > > the

> >

> > >             > mount, but

> >

> > >             >       > no joy.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > Closing the Find window and clicking on Mount Connect shows the mount as Parked,

> >

> > > Tracking=Zero but

> >

> > >             > the

> >

> > >             >       > APCC Unpark button is non-functional.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > I went ahead and connected the AP V2 ASCOM Driver and tried Unpark. Again, the Mount

> Info

> >

> > > Park

> >

> > >             > shows

> >

> > >             >       > Unparked for a moment but quickly reverts to Parked.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > I tried connecting TheSkyX and found I could connect and perform a successful goto.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > I tried Parking with TSX and it sent the mount to the Park position but the slew message said

> >

> > > Parking

> >

> > >             > and never

> >

> > >             >       > went to Parked. TSX remained frozen in this state.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > So, what I believe is wrong is the GTOCP4 unit is hosed. There seems to be a

> communication

> >

> > > issue

> >

> > >             > where it is not

> >

> > >             >       > reporting or recording the current state. It may be something in the firmware or it may be a

> > physical

> >

> > >             > problem. All of

> >

> > >             >       > this is way beyond my pay grade. I think I need to contact AP directly and try to work through

> > this

> >

> > > with

> >

> > >             > them. Do

> >

> > >             >       > you think that is a reasonable conclusion?

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > Thanks for all the time and help.

> >

> > >             >       > Dan

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:46 PM Dan Simpson via groups.io

> <dbs2144@...

> > <mailto:dbs2144@...> >

> >

> > > wrote:

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >       Thanks Ray, I'll take a look later this evening.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >       I will say I did forget to check that there was power to the mount when I first started up

> > today.

> >

> > > The

> >

> > >             > runaway

> >

> > >             >       > at the end of my last session had caused me to hit the power switch on the 12vdc power

> supply

> >

> > > not my

> >

> > >             > Digital

> >

> > >             >       > Logger switch. When I switched on the DL this morning it faithfully switched on but the power

> >

> > > supply

> >

> > >             > switch was

> >

> > >             >       > still off. Took me a bit to figure it out.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >       Thanks,

> >

> > >             >       >       Dan

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >       On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:23 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@...

> > <mailto:groups3@...> > wrote:

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >               Dan,

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >               Here is a link to the youtube video demonstrating park and unpark.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >               To provide a baseline try to perform the operations I do in the video *exactly* the way

> I

> >

> > > have

> >

> > >             > done

> >

> > >             >       > them.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >               https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE <https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE>

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >               -Ray Gralak

> >

> > >             >       >               Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-

> > physics.com/apcc- <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc->

> >

> > > pro

> >

> > >             >       >               Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>

> >

> > >             >       >               Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

> > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Steve,

I don't know what you are trying to show in that screen shot?

Try these steps exactly:

1, Disconnect APCC from the mount.
2. Set TCP as the connection type.
3. Power off the mount and wait 5 seconds.
4. Power on the mount and wait another 5 seconds.
5. Connect APCC to the mount.

APCC should initialize and unpark the mount after the countdown.

If not unpark attach the APCC log (no need to zip, it should be short). No need for a video, just the log will be fine.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Reilly
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:18 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Here's the window capture but the warning disappears within 4-5 seconds.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Steve,

You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all those apps and try APCC by itself. I've said
this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests!

Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup APCC to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT
connected. Also, use TCP instead of UDP because commands can be lost using UDP and for the purpose of this
test we want to be sure no commands are lost.

Shut the mount off, then power it on.

APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that?

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Steve Reilly
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:28 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Ray,



From our earlier email I had said that I could not unpark using APCC
and that still holds true today. I did install both the newest APCC
versions and ASCOM driver this afternoon and repeated the test. I had done this test before and after updates
today. To clear up any misunderstanding what I did I used Bandicam to record the tests.
The same results so I just uploaded the newest versions test as they
both have the same results. I can park when unparked but I can not
unpark in APCC under any circumstances I know of. I can park and
unpark at will with the driver. I can park in APCC after it's
unparked. See this video
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ev8cnm27a56hq1/bandicam%202020-04-28%2015-
54-01-424.avi?dl=0>

I hope this sheds some light on the issue. If I did something
incorrect please advise. Also as a point of interest I disabled APCC
from my startup script for ACP Expert and have been able to image where with it not so much as it hangs
waiting on a mount response to parking/unparking which can affect if my roll off roof closes or not.
Maybe my driver configuration? But that works by itself….



-Steve





-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray
Gralak
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC



Hi Dan,



I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.
Had
to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!


So, the problem is not with the CP4 or the software, but likely your connection.



I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter
presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?


This is going to require you to learn a little about networking and
your home router. That's going to be up to you to do that research.
:-)



That said, I suggest you follow what I suggested to Jack in a post
yesterday. That is put your computer and CP4 on your local LAN and configure your home router to use DHCP
(usually they are set that way by default).



Then APCC should be able to find your CP4 and communicate correctly.
One caveat... when using DHCP the router may assign a different IP
address to the CP4 each time the CP4 is power on. If you don't want
to use the Find CP4/5 button in APCC when that happens then I suggest
you configure your router to provide the CP4 with a static IP address. This will reserve that IP address for the
CP4 and it won't change as long as you use that router.



-Ray Gralak

Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro <https://www.astro-
physics.com/apcc-pro>

Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
<https://www.ccdware.com>; Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;





-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
[mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf

Of Dan Simpson
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 9:39 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Hi Ray,
I did try using a USB cable yesterday but got no response from the mount.
I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.
Had
to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!
I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter
presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?
Thanks,
Dan
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 9:30 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com <mailto:groups3@gralak.com> > wrote:
Dan,
It sounds like you may have a network problem. So, did
you try the
alternative I suggested? That is connecting APCC via its USB or
serial port? If that works, or doesn't work,
helps isolate the problem.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
<https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>;

Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
<https://www.ccdware.com>;
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:46 PM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>
> Hi Ray,
> I guess my first question would be: what changed? I
can't remember
the last time I dug into the network settings.
> I've been using this exact same setup (GTOCP4, Cat5e,
couple of
network switches and a dual NIC) for well over
> a year. Again, I did nothing, consciously, to change it.
>
> In order to simplify things I've run a single straight
Cat5e cable
between the mount and the computer. I also
> disconnected the two other Cat5e cables just to be sure.
>
> The one thing that changed right away is that clicking
the Find
button in the APCC Connection window shows the
> mount is available. However, I still cannot Unpark the
mount with
either the APCC button or the ASCOM
V2
> button.
>
> I tried Unparking with both programs using the Last Park and Park 4 (my keypad needs an
upgrade).
No

> response.
>
> I also tried to first Park and then Unpark. Again, no response.
>
> Reconnecting the Internet-RigRunner cable - to the motherboard port - caused the connection to
fail.

> Reconnecting the Digital Logger cable did not affect the connection.
>
> Your video lasted a lot longer than my test. I can,
apparently,
connect the mount to APCC and AP V2 but I am
> not able to use that connection in any meaningful way.
>
> I've again left some images in my Dropbox folder. They
show the LAN
settings and what happened when I tried
> Parking and Unparking. Hopefully, there might be a clue there.
>
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20
Captures.zip?dl=0
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20C
aptures.zip?dl=0>

>
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:44 AM Ray Gralak
<groups3@gralak.com <mailto:groups3@gralak.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Dan,
>
> One more thought...
>
> if there is a router on your LAN with an internet connection, what is the subnet of the LAN you
are

using?
> (eg. 192.168.1.0)
>
> If the CP4 is setup to accept a DHCP address it should be provided one by your router. It
shouldn't

need to
> be on the 169.254.1.x LAN.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
<https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>;

> Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>;
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;

>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-
gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:57 AM
> > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
> >
> > Ray,
> > Thanks for the video. I was unaware of the Find feature in the Connection box which is very
nice.

> >
> > Unfortunately, when I click on the Find button the window pops up but does not show any
connection
> options.
> > I've attached a snip.
> >
> > Power is definitely on, Cat5e cable is blinking. Keypad is on.
> >
> > I also tried eliminating a couple of network switches with a straight run between the computer
and

the
> mount, but
> > no joy.
> >
> > Closing the Find window and clicking on Mount Connect shows the mount as Parked,
Tracking=Zero but
> the
> > APCC Unpark button is non-functional.
> >
> > I went ahead and connected the AP V2 ASCOM Driver and tried Unpark. Again, the Mount
Info

Park
> shows
> > Unparked for a moment but quickly reverts to Parked.
> >
> > I tried connecting TheSkyX and found I could connect and perform a successful goto.
> >
> > I tried Parking with TSX and it sent the mount to the Park position but the slew message said
Parking
> and never
> > went to Parked. TSX remained frozen in this state.
> >
> > So, what I believe is wrong is the GTOCP4 unit is hosed. There seems to be a
communication

issue
> where it is not
> > reporting or recording the current state. It may be something in the firmware or it may be a
physical

> problem. All of
> > this is way beyond my pay grade. I think I need to contact AP directly and try to work through
this

with
> them. Do
> > you think that is a reasonable conclusion?
> >
> > Thanks for all the time and help.
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:46 PM Dan Simpson via groups.io
<dbs2144=gmail.com@groups.io
<mailto:dbs2144=gmail.com@groups.io> >

wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ray, I'll take a look later this evening.
> >
> > I will say I did forget to check that there was power to the mount when I first started up
today.

The
> runaway
> > at the end of my last session had caused me to hit the power switch on the 12vdc power
supply

not my
> Digital
> > Logger switch. When I switched on the DL this morning it faithfully switched on but the power
supply
> switch was
> > still off. Took me a bit to figure it out.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:23 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com
<mailto:groups3@gralak.com> > wrote:

> >
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > Here is a link to the youtube video demonstrating park and unpark.
> >
> > To provide a baseline try to perform the operations I do in the video *exactly* the way
I

have
> done
> > them.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE <https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE>;
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-
physics.com/apcc- <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc->;

pro
> > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>;
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>








Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Steve Reilly
 

Here's the window capture but the warning disappears within 4-5 seconds.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Steve,

You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all those apps and try APCC by itself. I've said this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests!

Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup APCC to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT connected. Also, use TCP instead of UDP because commands can be lost using UDP and for the purpose of this test we want to be sure no commands are lost.

Shut the mount off, then power it on.

APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that?

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Steve Reilly
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:28 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Ray,



From our earlier email I had said that I could not unpark using APCC
and that still holds true today. I did install both the newest APCC
versions and ASCOM driver this afternoon and repeated the test. I had done this test before and after updates today. To clear up any misunderstanding what I did I used Bandicam to record the tests.
The same results so I just uploaded the newest versions test as they
both have the same results. I can park when unparked but I can not
unpark in APCC under any circumstances I know of. I can park and
unpark at will with the driver. I can park in APCC after it's
unparked. See this video
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ev8cnm27a56hq1/bandicam%202020-04-28%2015-
54-01-424.avi?dl=0>

I hope this sheds some light on the issue. If I did something
incorrect please advise. Also as a point of interest I disabled APCC
from my startup script for ACP Expert and have been able to image where with it not so much as it hangs waiting on a mount response to parking/unparking which can affect if my roll off roof closes or not.
Maybe my driver configuration? But that works by itself….



-Steve





-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray
Gralak
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC



Hi Dan,



I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.
Had
to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!


So, the problem is not with the CP4 or the software, but likely your connection.



I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter
presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?


This is going to require you to learn a little about networking and
your home router. That's going to be up to you to do that research.
:-)



That said, I suggest you follow what I suggested to Jack in a post
yesterday. That is put your computer and CP4 on your local LAN and configure your home router to use DHCP (usually they are set that way by default).



Then APCC should be able to find your CP4 and communicate correctly.
One caveat... when using DHCP the router may assign a different IP
address to the CP4 each time the CP4 is power on. If you don't want
to use the Find CP4/5 button in APCC when that happens then I suggest
you configure your router to provide the CP4 with a static IP address. This will reserve that IP address for the CP4 and it won't change as long as you use that router.



-Ray Gralak

Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro <https://www.astro-
physics.com/apcc-pro>

Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
<https://www.ccdware.com>; Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;





-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
[mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf

Of Dan Simpson
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 9:39 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Hi Ray,
I did try using a USB cable yesterday but got no response from the mount.
I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.
Had
to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!
I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter
presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?
Thanks,
Dan
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 9:30 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com <mailto:groups3@gralak.com> > wrote:
Dan,
It sounds like you may have a network problem. So, did
you try the
alternative I suggested? That is connecting APCC via its USB or
serial port? If that works, or doesn't work,
helps isolate the problem.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
<https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>;

Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
<https://www.ccdware.com>;
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:46 PM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>
> Hi Ray,
> I guess my first question would be: what changed? I
can't remember
the last time I dug into the network settings.
> I've been using this exact same setup (GTOCP4, Cat5e,
couple of
network switches and a dual NIC) for well over
> a year. Again, I did nothing, consciously, to change it.
>
> In order to simplify things I've run a single straight
Cat5e cable
between the mount and the computer. I also
> disconnected the two other Cat5e cables just to be sure.
>
> The one thing that changed right away is that clicking
the Find
button in the APCC Connection window shows the
> mount is available. However, I still cannot Unpark the
mount with
either the APCC button or the ASCOM
V2
> button.
>
> I tried Unparking with both programs using the Last Park and Park 4 (my keypad needs an upgrade).
No

> response.
>
> I also tried to first Park and then Unpark. Again, no response.
>
> Reconnecting the Internet-RigRunner cable - to the motherboard port - caused the connection to fail.
> Reconnecting the Digital Logger cable did not affect the connection.
>
> Your video lasted a lot longer than my test. I can,
apparently,
connect the mount to APCC and AP V2 but I am
> not able to use that connection in any meaningful way.
>
> I've again left some images in my Dropbox folder. They
show the LAN
settings and what happened when I tried
> Parking and Unparking. Hopefully, there might be a clue there.
>
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20
Captures.zip?dl=0
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20C
aptures.zip?dl=0>

>
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:44 AM Ray Gralak
<groups3@gralak.com <mailto:groups3@gralak.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Dan,
>
> One more thought...
>
> if there is a router on your LAN with an internet connection, what is the subnet of the LAN you are
using?
> (eg. 192.168.1.0)
>
> If the CP4 is setup to accept a DHCP address it should be provided one by your router. It
shouldn't

need to
> be on the 169.254.1.x LAN.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
<https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>;

> Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>;
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;

>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:57 AM
> > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
> >
> > Ray,
> > Thanks for the video. I was unaware of the Find feature in the Connection box which is very
nice.

> >
> > Unfortunately, when I click on the Find button the window pops up but does not show any
connection
> options.
> > I've attached a snip.
> >
> > Power is definitely on, Cat5e cable is blinking. Keypad is on.
> >
> > I also tried eliminating a couple of network switches with a straight run between the computer
and

the
> mount, but
> > no joy.
> >
> > Closing the Find window and clicking on Mount Connect shows the mount as Parked,
Tracking=Zero but
> the
> > APCC Unpark button is non-functional.
> >
> > I went ahead and connected the AP V2 ASCOM Driver and tried Unpark. Again, the Mount Info
Park
> shows
> > Unparked for a moment but quickly reverts to Parked.
> >
> > I tried connecting TheSkyX and found I could connect and perform a successful goto.
> >
> > I tried Parking with TSX and it sent the mount to the Park position but the slew message said
Parking
> and never
> > went to Parked. TSX remained frozen in this state.
> >
> > So, what I believe is wrong is the GTOCP4 unit is hosed. There seems to be a communication
issue
> where it is not
> > reporting or recording the current state. It may be something in the firmware or it may be a
physical

> problem. All of
> > this is way beyond my pay grade. I think I need to contact AP directly and try to work through
this

with
> them. Do
> > you think that is a reasonable conclusion?
> >
> > Thanks for all the time and help.
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:46 PM Dan Simpson via groups.io <dbs2144=gmail.com@groups.io
<mailto:dbs2144=gmail.com@groups.io> >

wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ray, I'll take a look later this evening.
> >
> > I will say I did forget to check that there was power to the mount when I first started up
today.

The
> runaway
> > at the end of my last session had caused me to hit the power switch on the 12vdc power supply
not my
> Digital
> > Logger switch. When I switched on the DL this morning it faithfully switched on but the power
supply
> switch was
> > still off. Took me a bit to figure it out.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:23 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com
<mailto:groups3@gralak.com> > wrote:

> >
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > Here is a link to the youtube video demonstrating park and unpark.
> >
> > To provide a baseline try to perform the operations I do in the video *exactly* the way I
have
> done
> > them.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE <https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE>;
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-
physics.com/apcc- <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc->;

pro
> > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>;
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Steve,

 

You can edit the initialize settings from APCC's Settings tab like in this screen shot:

 

 

Make sure unpark from last park is configured. Also, don't forget to uncheck Auto-Connect in the AP V2 Deiver group box!

 

Then power cycle the mount.

 

The purpose of the apps being disconnected is so there is only one log file to look at. I don't care if you have ACP running as long as the ASCOM driver is not connected to APCC.

 

-Ray Gralak

Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com

Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Reilly

> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:10 PM

> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

>

> Well if I could initialize the mount I would but I get a notice that it can not initialize the mount unless RA=0 and

> DEC=90. The mount is parked where it always is at Park4.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak

> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:50 PM

> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

>

> Steve,

>

> You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all those apps and try APCC by itself. I've said

> this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests!

>

> Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup APCC to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT

> connected. Also, use TCP instead of UDP because commands can be lost using UDP and for the purpose of this

> test we want to be sure no commands are lost.

>

> Shut the mount off, then power it on.

>

> APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that?

>

> -Ray Gralak

> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

> Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:

> https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

>

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf

> > Of Steve Reilly

> > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:28 PM

> > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

> >

> > Ray,

> >

> >

> >

> > From our earlier email I had said that I could not unpark using APCC

> > and that still holds true today. I did install both the newest APCC

> > versions and ASCOM driver this afternoon and repeated the test. I had done this test before and after updates

> today. To clear up any misunderstanding what I did I used Bandicam to record the tests.

> > The same results so I just uploaded the newest versions test as they

> > both have the same results. I can park when unparked but I can not

> > unpark in APCC under any circumstances I know of. I can park and

> > unpark at will with the driver. I can park in APCC after it's

> > unparked. See this video

> > <https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ev8cnm27a56hq1/bandicam%202020-04-28%2015-

> > 54-01-424.avi?dl=0>

> >

> > I hope this sheds some light on the issue. If I did something

> > incorrect please advise. Also as a point of interest I disabled APCC

> > from my startup script for ACP Expert and have been able to image where with it not so much as it hangs

> waiting on a mount response to parking/unparking which can affect if my roll off roof closes or not.

> > Maybe my driver configuration? But that works by itself….

> >

> >

> >

> > -Steve

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray

> > Gralak

> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:38 PM

> > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Dan,

> >

> >

> >

> > > I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.

> > > Had

> >

> > > to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!

> >

> >

> >

> > So, the problem is not with the CP4 or the software, but likely your connection.

> >

> >

> >

> > > I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter

> >

> > > presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?

> >

> >

> >

> > This is going to require you to learn a little about networking and

> > your home router. That's going to be up to you to do that research.

> > :-)

> >

> >

> >

> > That said, I suggest you follow what I suggested to Jack in a post

> > yesterday. That is put your computer and CP4 on your local LAN and configure your home router to use DHCP

> (usually they are set that way by default).

> >

> >

> >

> > Then APCC should be able to find your CP4 and communicate correctly.

> > One caveat... when using DHCP the router may assign a different IP

> > address to the CP4 each time the CP4 is power on.  If you don't want

> > to use the Find CP4/5 button in APCC when that happens then I suggest

> > you configure your router to provide the CP4 with a static IP address. This will reserve that IP address for the

> CP4 and it won't change as long as you use that router.

> >

> >

> >

> > -Ray Gralak

> >

> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):

> > https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro <https://www.astro-

> > physics.com/apcc-pro>

> >

> > Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com

> > <https://www.ccdware.com>  Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:

> > https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

> > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> >

> > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>

> > > [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io

> > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf

> >

> > > Of Dan Simpson

> >

> > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 9:39 AM

> >

> > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>

> >

> > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Hi Ray,

> >

> > > I did try using a USB cable yesterday but got no response from the mount.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.

> > > Had

> >

> > > to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter

> >

> > > presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?

> >

> > > Thanks,

> >

> > > Dan

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 9:30 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@... <mailto:groups3@...> > wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >             Dan,

> >

> > >

> >

> > >             It sounds like you may have a network problem. So, did

> > > you try the

> >

> > > alternative I suggested? That is connecting APCC via its USB or

> > > serial port? If that works, or doesn't work,

> > helps isolate the problem.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >             -Ray Gralak

> >

> > >             Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):

> > > https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

> > <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>

> >

> > >             Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com

> > > <https://www.ccdware.com>

> >

> > >             Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:

> >

> > > https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

> > > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >             > -----Original Message-----

> >

> > >             > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>  [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io

> > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> >

> > >             > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:46 PM

> >

> > >             > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>

> >

> > >             > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > Hi Ray,

> >

> > >             > I guess my first question would be: what changed? I

> > > can't remember

> >

> > > the last time I dug into the network settings.

> >

> > >             > I've been using this exact same setup (GTOCP4, Cat5e,

> > > couple of

> >

> > > network switches and a dual NIC) for well over

> >

> > >             > a year.  Again, I did nothing, consciously, to change it.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > In order to simplify things I've run a single straight

> > > Cat5e cable

> >

> > > between the mount and the computer. I also

> >

> > >             > disconnected the two other Cat5e cables just to be sure.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > The one thing that changed right away is that clicking

> > > the Find

> >

> > > button in the APCC Connection window shows the

> >

> > >             > mount is available. However, I still cannot Unpark the

> > > mount with

> >

> > > either the APCC button or the ASCOM

> >

> > > V2

> >

> > >             > button.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > I tried Unparking with both programs using the Last Park and Park 4 (my keypad needs an

> upgrade).

> > No

> >

> > >             > response.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > I also tried to first Park and then Unpark. Again, no response.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > Reconnecting the Internet-RigRunner cable - to the motherboard port - caused the connection to

> fail.

> >

> > >             > Reconnecting the Digital Logger cable did not affect the connection.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > Your video lasted a lot longer than my test. I can,

> > > apparently,

> >

> > > connect the mount to APCC and AP V2 but I am

> >

> > >             > not able to use that connection in any meaningful way.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > I've again left some images in my Dropbox folder. They

> > > show the LAN

> >

> > > settings and what happened when I tried

> >

> > >             > Parking and Unparking. Hopefully, there might be a clue there.

> >

> > >             >

> > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20

> > > Captures.zip?dl=0

> > <https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20C

> > aptures.zip?dl=0>

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > Thanks,

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:44 AM Ray Gralak

> > > <groups3@... <mailto:groups3@...>

> > > wrote:

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >       Dan,

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >       One more thought...

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >       if there is a router on your LAN with an internet connection, what is the subnet of the LAN you

> are

> >

> > > using?

> >

> > >             > (eg. 192.168.1.0)

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >       If the CP4 is setup to accept a DHCP address it should be provided one by your router. It

> > shouldn't

> >

> > > need to

> >

> > >             > be on the 169.254.1.x LAN.

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >       -Ray Gralak

> >

> > >             >       Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

> > <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>

> >

> > >             >       Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>

> >

> > >             >       Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

> > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >

> >

> > >             >       > -----Original Message-----

> >

> > >             >       > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>  [mailto:main@ap-

> gto.groups.io

> > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> >

> > >             >       > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:57 AM

> >

> > >             >       > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>

> >

> > >             >       > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > Ray,

> >

> > >             >       > Thanks for the video. I was unaware of the Find feature in the Connection box which is very

> > nice.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > Unfortunately, when I click on the Find button the window pops up but does not show any

> >

> > > connection

> >

> > >             > options.

> >

> > >             >       > I've attached a snip.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > Power is definitely on, Cat5e cable is blinking. Keypad is on.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > I also tried eliminating a couple of network switches with a straight run between the computer

> > and

> >

> > > the

> >

> > >             > mount, but

> >

> > >             >       > no joy.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > Closing the Find window and clicking on Mount Connect shows the mount as Parked,

> >

> > > Tracking=Zero but

> >

> > >             > the

> >

> > >             >       > APCC Unpark button is non-functional.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > I went ahead and connected the AP V2 ASCOM Driver and tried Unpark. Again, the Mount

> Info

> >

> > > Park

> >

> > >             > shows

> >

> > >             >       > Unparked for a moment but quickly reverts to Parked.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > I tried connecting TheSkyX and found I could connect and perform a successful goto.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > I tried Parking with TSX and it sent the mount to the Park position but the slew message said

> >

> > > Parking

> >

> > >             > and never

> >

> > >             >       > went to Parked. TSX remained frozen in this state.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > So, what I believe is wrong is the GTOCP4 unit is hosed. There seems to be a

> communication

> >

> > > issue

> >

> > >             > where it is not

> >

> > >             >       > reporting or recording the current state. It may be something in the firmware or it may be a

> > physical

> >

> > >             > problem. All of

> >

> > >             >       > this is way beyond my pay grade. I think I need to contact AP directly and try to work through

> > this

> >

> > > with

> >

> > >             > them. Do

> >

> > >             >       > you think that is a reasonable conclusion?

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > Thanks for all the time and help.

> >

> > >             >       > Dan

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:46 PM Dan Simpson via groups.io

> <dbs2144@...

> > <mailto:dbs2144@...> >

> >

> > > wrote:

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >       Thanks Ray, I'll take a look later this evening.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >       I will say I did forget to check that there was power to the mount when I first started up

> > today.

> >

> > > The

> >

> > >             > runaway

> >

> > >             >       > at the end of my last session had caused me to hit the power switch on the 12vdc power

> supply

> >

> > > not my

> >

> > >             > Digital

> >

> > >             >       > Logger switch. When I switched on the DL this morning it faithfully switched on but the power

> >

> > > supply

> >

> > >             > switch was

> >

> > >             >       > still off. Took me a bit to figure it out.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >       Thanks,

> >

> > >             >       >       Dan

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >       On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:23 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@...

> > <mailto:groups3@...> > wrote:

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >               Dan,

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >               Here is a link to the youtube video demonstrating park and unpark.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >               To provide a baseline try to perform the operations I do in the video *exactly* the way

> I

> >

> > > have

> >

> > >             > done

> >

> > >             >       > them.

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >               https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE <https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE>

> >

> > >             >       >

> >

> > >             >       >               -Ray Gralak

> >

> > >             >       >               Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-

> > physics.com/apcc- <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc->

> >

> > > pro

> >

> > >             >       >               Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>

> >

> > >             >       >               Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

> > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>

> >

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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Steve Reilly
 

The only apps I was using was APCC and the ASCOM driver. What others are you referring to. Yeas, ACP and Expert are running but in no way were connected to the mount or any hardware at that point. Same with the roof controller and cloud sensor. You're welcome to TV in if that's any help.

-Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Steve,

You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all those apps and try APCC by itself. I've said this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests!

Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup APCC to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT connected. Also, use TCP instead of UDP because commands can be lost using UDP and for the purpose of this test we want to be sure no commands are lost.

Shut the mount off, then power it on.

APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that?

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Steve Reilly
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:28 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Ray,



From our earlier email I had said that I could not unpark using APCC
and that still holds true today. I did install both the newest APCC
versions and ASCOM driver this afternoon and repeated the test. I had done this test before and after updates today. To clear up any misunderstanding what I did I used Bandicam to record the tests.
The same results so I just uploaded the newest versions test as they
both have the same results. I can park when unparked but I can not
unpark in APCC under any circumstances I know of. I can park and
unpark at will with the driver. I can park in APCC after it's
unparked. See this video
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ev8cnm27a56hq1/bandicam%202020-04-28%2015-
54-01-424.avi?dl=0>

I hope this sheds some light on the issue. If I did something
incorrect please advise. Also as a point of interest I disabled APCC
from my startup script for ACP Expert and have been able to image where with it not so much as it hangs waiting on a mount response to parking/unparking which can affect if my roll off roof closes or not.
Maybe my driver configuration? But that works by itself….



-Steve





-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray
Gralak
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC



Hi Dan,



I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.
Had
to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!


So, the problem is not with the CP4 or the software, but likely your connection.



I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter
presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?


This is going to require you to learn a little about networking and
your home router. That's going to be up to you to do that research.
:-)



That said, I suggest you follow what I suggested to Jack in a post
yesterday. That is put your computer and CP4 on your local LAN and configure your home router to use DHCP (usually they are set that way by default).



Then APCC should be able to find your CP4 and communicate correctly.
One caveat... when using DHCP the router may assign a different IP
address to the CP4 each time the CP4 is power on. If you don't want
to use the Find CP4/5 button in APCC when that happens then I suggest
you configure your router to provide the CP4 with a static IP address. This will reserve that IP address for the CP4 and it won't change as long as you use that router.



-Ray Gralak

Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro <https://www.astro-
physics.com/apcc-pro>

Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
<https://www.ccdware.com>; Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;





-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
[mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf

Of Dan Simpson
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 9:39 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Hi Ray,
I did try using a USB cable yesterday but got no response from the mount.
I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.
Had
to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!
I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter
presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?
Thanks,
Dan
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 9:30 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com <mailto:groups3@gralak.com> > wrote:
Dan,
It sounds like you may have a network problem. So, did
you try the
alternative I suggested? That is connecting APCC via its USB or
serial port? If that works, or doesn't work,
helps isolate the problem.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
<https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>;

Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
<https://www.ccdware.com>;
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:46 PM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>
> Hi Ray,
> I guess my first question would be: what changed? I
can't remember
the last time I dug into the network settings.
> I've been using this exact same setup (GTOCP4, Cat5e,
couple of
network switches and a dual NIC) for well over
> a year. Again, I did nothing, consciously, to change it.
>
> In order to simplify things I've run a single straight
Cat5e cable
between the mount and the computer. I also
> disconnected the two other Cat5e cables just to be sure.
>
> The one thing that changed right away is that clicking
the Find
button in the APCC Connection window shows the
> mount is available. However, I still cannot Unpark the
mount with
either the APCC button or the ASCOM
V2
> button.
>
> I tried Unparking with both programs using the Last Park and Park 4 (my keypad needs an upgrade).
No

> response.
>
> I also tried to first Park and then Unpark. Again, no response.
>
> Reconnecting the Internet-RigRunner cable - to the motherboard port - caused the connection to fail.
> Reconnecting the Digital Logger cable did not affect the connection.
>
> Your video lasted a lot longer than my test. I can,
apparently,
connect the mount to APCC and AP V2 but I am
> not able to use that connection in any meaningful way.
>
> I've again left some images in my Dropbox folder. They
show the LAN
settings and what happened when I tried
> Parking and Unparking. Hopefully, there might be a clue there.
>
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20
Captures.zip?dl=0
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20C
aptures.zip?dl=0>

>
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:44 AM Ray Gralak
<groups3@gralak.com <mailto:groups3@gralak.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Dan,
>
> One more thought...
>
> if there is a router on your LAN with an internet connection, what is the subnet of the LAN you are
using?
> (eg. 192.168.1.0)
>
> If the CP4 is setup to accept a DHCP address it should be provided one by your router. It
shouldn't

need to
> be on the 169.254.1.x LAN.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
<https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>;

> Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>;
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;

>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:57 AM
> > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
> >
> > Ray,
> > Thanks for the video. I was unaware of the Find feature in the Connection box which is very
nice.

> >
> > Unfortunately, when I click on the Find button the window pops up but does not show any
connection
> options.
> > I've attached a snip.
> >
> > Power is definitely on, Cat5e cable is blinking. Keypad is on.
> >
> > I also tried eliminating a couple of network switches with a straight run between the computer
and

the
> mount, but
> > no joy.
> >
> > Closing the Find window and clicking on Mount Connect shows the mount as Parked,
Tracking=Zero but
> the
> > APCC Unpark button is non-functional.
> >
> > I went ahead and connected the AP V2 ASCOM Driver and tried Unpark. Again, the Mount Info
Park
> shows
> > Unparked for a moment but quickly reverts to Parked.
> >
> > I tried connecting TheSkyX and found I could connect and perform a successful goto.
> >
> > I tried Parking with TSX and it sent the mount to the Park position but the slew message said
Parking
> and never
> > went to Parked. TSX remained frozen in this state.
> >
> > So, what I believe is wrong is the GTOCP4 unit is hosed. There seems to be a communication
issue
> where it is not
> > reporting or recording the current state. It may be something in the firmware or it may be a
physical

> problem. All of
> > this is way beyond my pay grade. I think I need to contact AP directly and try to work through
this

with
> them. Do
> > you think that is a reasonable conclusion?
> >
> > Thanks for all the time and help.
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:46 PM Dan Simpson via groups.io <dbs2144=gmail.com@groups.io
<mailto:dbs2144=gmail.com@groups.io> >

wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ray, I'll take a look later this evening.
> >
> > I will say I did forget to check that there was power to the mount when I first started up
today.

The
> runaway
> > at the end of my last session had caused me to hit the power switch on the 12vdc power supply
not my
> Digital
> > Logger switch. When I switched on the DL this morning it faithfully switched on but the power
supply
> switch was
> > still off. Took me a bit to figure it out.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:23 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com
<mailto:groups3@gralak.com> > wrote:

> >
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > Here is a link to the youtube video demonstrating park and unpark.
> >
> > To provide a baseline try to perform the operations I do in the video *exactly* the way I
have
> done
> > them.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE <https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE>;
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-
physics.com/apcc- <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc->;

pro
> > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>;
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Steve Reilly
 

Well if I could initialize the mount I would but I get a notice that it can not initialize the mount unless RA=0 and DEC=90. The mount is parked where it always is at Park4.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Steve,

You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all those apps and try APCC by itself. I've said this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests!

Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup APCC to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT connected. Also, use TCP instead of UDP because commands can be lost using UDP and for the purpose of this test we want to be sure no commands are lost.

Shut the mount off, then power it on.

APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that?

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Steve Reilly
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:28 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Ray,



From our earlier email I had said that I could not unpark using APCC
and that still holds true today. I did install both the newest APCC
versions and ASCOM driver this afternoon and repeated the test. I had done this test before and after updates today. To clear up any misunderstanding what I did I used Bandicam to record the tests.
The same results so I just uploaded the newest versions test as they
both have the same results. I can park when unparked but I can not
unpark in APCC under any circumstances I know of. I can park and
unpark at will with the driver. I can park in APCC after it's
unparked. See this video
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ev8cnm27a56hq1/bandicam%202020-04-28%2015-
54-01-424.avi?dl=0>

I hope this sheds some light on the issue. If I did something
incorrect please advise. Also as a point of interest I disabled APCC
from my startup script for ACP Expert and have been able to image where with it not so much as it hangs waiting on a mount response to parking/unparking which can affect if my roll off roof closes or not.
Maybe my driver configuration? But that works by itself….



-Steve





-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray
Gralak
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC



Hi Dan,



I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.
Had
to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!


So, the problem is not with the CP4 or the software, but likely your connection.



I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter
presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?


This is going to require you to learn a little about networking and
your home router. That's going to be up to you to do that research.
:-)



That said, I suggest you follow what I suggested to Jack in a post
yesterday. That is put your computer and CP4 on your local LAN and configure your home router to use DHCP (usually they are set that way by default).



Then APCC should be able to find your CP4 and communicate correctly.
One caveat... when using DHCP the router may assign a different IP
address to the CP4 each time the CP4 is power on. If you don't want
to use the Find CP4/5 button in APCC when that happens then I suggest
you configure your router to provide the CP4 with a static IP address. This will reserve that IP address for the CP4 and it won't change as long as you use that router.



-Ray Gralak

Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro <https://www.astro-
physics.com/apcc-pro>

Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
<https://www.ccdware.com>; Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;





-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
[mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf

Of Dan Simpson
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 9:39 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Hi Ray,
I did try using a USB cable yesterday but got no response from the mount.
I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.
Had
to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!
I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter
presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?
Thanks,
Dan
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 9:30 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com <mailto:groups3@gralak.com> > wrote:
Dan,
It sounds like you may have a network problem. So, did
you try the
alternative I suggested? That is connecting APCC via its USB or
serial port? If that works, or doesn't work,
helps isolate the problem.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
<https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>;

Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
<https://www.ccdware.com>;
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:46 PM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>
> Hi Ray,
> I guess my first question would be: what changed? I
can't remember
the last time I dug into the network settings.
> I've been using this exact same setup (GTOCP4, Cat5e,
couple of
network switches and a dual NIC) for well over
> a year. Again, I did nothing, consciously, to change it.
>
> In order to simplify things I've run a single straight
Cat5e cable
between the mount and the computer. I also
> disconnected the two other Cat5e cables just to be sure.
>
> The one thing that changed right away is that clicking
the Find
button in the APCC Connection window shows the
> mount is available. However, I still cannot Unpark the
mount with
either the APCC button or the ASCOM
V2
> button.
>
> I tried Unparking with both programs using the Last Park and Park 4 (my keypad needs an upgrade).
No

> response.
>
> I also tried to first Park and then Unpark. Again, no response.
>
> Reconnecting the Internet-RigRunner cable - to the motherboard port - caused the connection to fail.
> Reconnecting the Digital Logger cable did not affect the connection.
>
> Your video lasted a lot longer than my test. I can,
apparently,
connect the mount to APCC and AP V2 but I am
> not able to use that connection in any meaningful way.
>
> I've again left some images in my Dropbox folder. They
show the LAN
settings and what happened when I tried
> Parking and Unparking. Hopefully, there might be a clue there.
>
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20
Captures.zip?dl=0
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20C
aptures.zip?dl=0>

>
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:44 AM Ray Gralak
<groups3@gralak.com <mailto:groups3@gralak.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Dan,
>
> One more thought...
>
> if there is a router on your LAN with an internet connection, what is the subnet of the LAN you are
using?
> (eg. 192.168.1.0)
>
> If the CP4 is setup to accept a DHCP address it should be provided one by your router. It
shouldn't

need to
> be on the 169.254.1.x LAN.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
<https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>;

> Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>;
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;

>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:57 AM
> > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
> >
> > Ray,
> > Thanks for the video. I was unaware of the Find feature in the Connection box which is very
nice.

> >
> > Unfortunately, when I click on the Find button the window pops up but does not show any
connection
> options.
> > I've attached a snip.
> >
> > Power is definitely on, Cat5e cable is blinking. Keypad is on.
> >
> > I also tried eliminating a couple of network switches with a straight run between the computer
and

the
> mount, but
> > no joy.
> >
> > Closing the Find window and clicking on Mount Connect shows the mount as Parked,
Tracking=Zero but
> the
> > APCC Unpark button is non-functional.
> >
> > I went ahead and connected the AP V2 ASCOM Driver and tried Unpark. Again, the Mount Info
Park
> shows
> > Unparked for a moment but quickly reverts to Parked.
> >
> > I tried connecting TheSkyX and found I could connect and perform a successful goto.
> >
> > I tried Parking with TSX and it sent the mount to the Park position but the slew message said
Parking
> and never
> > went to Parked. TSX remained frozen in this state.
> >
> > So, what I believe is wrong is the GTOCP4 unit is hosed. There seems to be a communication
issue
> where it is not
> > reporting or recording the current state. It may be something in the firmware or it may be a
physical

> problem. All of
> > this is way beyond my pay grade. I think I need to contact AP directly and try to work through
this

with
> them. Do
> > you think that is a reasonable conclusion?
> >
> > Thanks for all the time and help.
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:46 PM Dan Simpson via groups.io <dbs2144=gmail.com@groups.io
<mailto:dbs2144=gmail.com@groups.io> >

wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ray, I'll take a look later this evening.
> >
> > I will say I did forget to check that there was power to the mount when I first started up
today.

The
> runaway
> > at the end of my last session had caused me to hit the power switch on the 12vdc power supply
not my
> Digital
> > Logger switch. When I switched on the DL this morning it faithfully switched on but the power
supply
> switch was
> > still off. Took me a bit to figure it out.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:23 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com
<mailto:groups3@gralak.com> > wrote:

> >
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > Here is a link to the youtube video demonstrating park and unpark.
> >
> > To provide a baseline try to perform the operations I do in the video *exactly* the way I
have
> done
> > them.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE <https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE>;
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-
physics.com/apcc- <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc->;

pro
> > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>;
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Steve,

You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all those apps and try APCC by itself. I've said this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests!

Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup APCC to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT connected. Also, use TCP instead of UDP because commands can be lost using UDP and for the purpose of this test we want to be sure no commands are lost.

Shut the mount off, then power it on.

APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that?

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Reilly
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:28 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Ray,



From our earlier email I had said that I could not unpark using APCC and that still holds true today. I did install
both the newest APCC versions and ASCOM driver this afternoon and repeated the test. I had done this test
before and after updates today. To clear up any misunderstanding what I did I used Bandicam to record the tests.
The same results so I just uploaded the newest versions test as they both have the same results. I can park
when unparked but I can not unpark in APCC under any circumstances I know of. I can park and unpark at will
with the driver. I can park in APCC after it's unparked. See this video
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ev8cnm27a56hq1/bandicam%202020-04-28%2015-54-01-424.avi?dl=0>;

I hope this sheds some light on the issue. If I did something incorrect please advise. Also as a point of interest I
disabled APCC from my startup script for ACP Expert and have been able to image where with it not so much as
it hangs waiting on a mount response to parking/unparking which can affect if my roll off roof closes or not.
Maybe my driver configuration? But that works by itself….



-Steve





-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC



Hi Dan,



I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning. Had
to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!


So, the problem is not with the CP4 or the software, but likely your connection.



I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter
presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?


This is going to require you to learn a little about networking and your home router. That's going to be up to you
to do that research. :-)



That said, I suggest you follow what I suggested to Jack in a post yesterday. That is put your computer and CP4
on your local LAN and configure your home router to use DHCP (usually they are set that way by default).



Then APCC should be able to find your CP4 and communicate correctly. One caveat... when using DHCP the
router may assign a different IP address to the CP4 each time the CP4 is power on. If you don't want to use the
Find CP4/5 button in APCC when that happens then I suggest you configure your router to provide the CP4 with
a static IP address. This will reserve that IP address for the CP4 and it won't change as long as you use that
router.



-Ray Gralak

Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro <https://www.astro-
physics.com/apcc-pro>

Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>; Author of Astro-Physics V2
ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;





-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf

Of Dan Simpson
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 9:39 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Hi Ray,
I did try using a USB cable yesterday but got no response from the mount.
I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning. Had
to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!
I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter
presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?
Thanks,
Dan
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 9:30 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com <mailto:groups3@gralak.com> > wrote:
Dan,
It sounds like you may have a network problem. So, did you try the
alternative I suggested? That is connecting APCC via its USB or serial port? If that works, or doesn't work,
helps isolate the problem.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
<https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>;

Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>;
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:46 PM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>
> Hi Ray,
> I guess my first question would be: what changed? I can't remember
the last time I dug into the network settings.
> I've been using this exact same setup (GTOCP4, Cat5e, couple of
network switches and a dual NIC) for well over
> a year. Again, I did nothing, consciously, to change it.
>
> In order to simplify things I've run a single straight Cat5e cable
between the mount and the computer. I also
> disconnected the two other Cat5e cables just to be sure.
>
> The one thing that changed right away is that clicking the Find
button in the APCC Connection window shows the
> mount is available. However, I still cannot Unpark the mount with
either the APCC button or the ASCOM
V2
> button.
>
> I tried Unparking with both programs using the Last Park and Park 4 (my keypad needs an upgrade).
No

> response.
>
> I also tried to first Park and then Unpark. Again, no response.
>
> Reconnecting the Internet-RigRunner cable - to the motherboard port - caused the connection to fail.
> Reconnecting the Digital Logger cable did not affect the connection.
>
> Your video lasted a lot longer than my test. I can, apparently,
connect the mount to APCC and AP V2 but I am
> not able to use that connection in any meaningful way.
>
> I've again left some images in my Dropbox folder. They show the LAN
settings and what happened when I tried
> Parking and Unparking. Hopefully, there might be a clue there.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20Captures.zip?dl=0
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20Captures.zip?dl=0>;

>
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:44 AM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com <mailto:groups3@gralak.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Dan,
>
> One more thought...
>
> if there is a router on your LAN with an internet connection, what is the subnet of the LAN you are
using?
> (eg. 192.168.1.0)
>
> If the CP4 is setup to accept a DHCP address it should be provided one by your router. It
shouldn't

need to
> be on the 169.254.1.x LAN.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
<https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>;

> Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>;
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;

>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
<mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

> > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:57 AM
> > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
> >
> > Ray,
> > Thanks for the video. I was unaware of the Find feature in the Connection box which is very
nice.

> >
> > Unfortunately, when I click on the Find button the window pops up but does not show any
connection
> options.
> > I've attached a snip.
> >
> > Power is definitely on, Cat5e cable is blinking. Keypad is on.
> >
> > I also tried eliminating a couple of network switches with a straight run between the computer
and

the
> mount, but
> > no joy.
> >
> > Closing the Find window and clicking on Mount Connect shows the mount as Parked,
Tracking=Zero but
> the
> > APCC Unpark button is non-functional.
> >
> > I went ahead and connected the AP V2 ASCOM Driver and tried Unpark. Again, the Mount Info
Park
> shows
> > Unparked for a moment but quickly reverts to Parked.
> >
> > I tried connecting TheSkyX and found I could connect and perform a successful goto.
> >
> > I tried Parking with TSX and it sent the mount to the Park position but the slew message said
Parking
> and never
> > went to Parked. TSX remained frozen in this state.
> >
> > So, what I believe is wrong is the GTOCP4 unit is hosed. There seems to be a communication
issue
> where it is not
> > reporting or recording the current state. It may be something in the firmware or it may be a
physical

> problem. All of
> > this is way beyond my pay grade. I think I need to contact AP directly and try to work through
this

with
> them. Do
> > you think that is a reasonable conclusion?
> >
> > Thanks for all the time and help.
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:46 PM Dan Simpson via groups.io <dbs2144=gmail.com@groups.io
<mailto:dbs2144=gmail.com@groups.io> >

wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ray, I'll take a look later this evening.
> >
> > I will say I did forget to check that there was power to the mount when I first started up
today.

The
> runaway
> > at the end of my last session had caused me to hit the power switch on the 12vdc power supply
not my
> Digital
> > Logger switch. When I switched on the DL this morning it faithfully switched on but the power
supply
> switch was
> > still off. Took me a bit to figure it out.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:23 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com
<mailto:groups3@gralak.com> > wrote:

> >
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > Here is a link to the youtube video demonstrating park and unpark.
> >
> > To provide a baseline try to perform the operations I do in the video *exactly* the way I
have
> done
> > them.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE <https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE>;
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-
physics.com/apcc- <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc->;

pro
> > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>;
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
<https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>;

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Steve Reilly
 

Ray,

 

From our earlier email I had said that I could not unpark using APCC and that still holds true today. I did install both the newest APCC versions and ASCOM driver this afternoon and repeated the test. I had done this test before and after updates today. To clear up any misunderstanding what I did I used Bandicam to record the tests. The same results so I just uploaded the newest versions test as they both have the same results. I can park when unparked but I can not unpark in APCC under any circumstances I know of. I can park and unpark at will with the driver. I can park in APCC after it's unparked. See this video

I hope this sheds some light on the issue. If I did something incorrect please advise. Also as a point of interest I disabled APCC from my startup script for ACP Expert and have been able to image where with it not so much as it hangs waiting on a mount response to parking/unparking which can affect if my roll off roof closes or not. Maybe my driver configuration? But that works by itself….

 

-Steve

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

 

Hi Dan,

 

> I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning. Had

> to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!

 

So, the problem is not with the CP4 or the software, but likely your connection.

 

> I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter

> presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?

 

This is going to require you to learn a little about networking and your home router. That's going to be up to you to do that research. :-)

 

That said, I suggest you follow what I suggested to Jack in a post yesterday. That is put your computer and CP4 on your local LAN and configure your home router to use DHCP (usually they are set that way by default).

 

Then APCC should be able to find your CP4 and communicate correctly. One caveat... when using DHCP the router may assign a different IP address to the CP4 each time the CP4 is power on.  If you don't want to use the Find CP4/5 button in APCC when that happens then I suggest you configure your router to provide the CP4 with a static IP address. This will reserve that IP address for the CP4 and it won't change as long as you use that router.

 

-Ray Gralak

Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf

> Of Dan Simpson

> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 9:39 AM

> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

>

> Hi Ray,

> I did try using a USB cable yesterday but got no response from the mount.

>

> I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning. Had

> to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!

>

>

> I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter

> presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?

> Thanks,

> Dan

>

>

>

>

> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 9:30 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@...> wrote:

>

>

>             Dan,

>

>             It sounds like you may have a network problem. So, did you try the

> alternative I suggested? That is connecting APCC via its USB or serial port? If that works, or doesn't work, helps isolate the problem.

>

>             -Ray Gralak

>             Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

>             Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com

>             Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:

> https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

>

>

>             > -----Original Message-----

>             > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

>             > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:46 PM

>             > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

>             > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

>             >

>             > Hi Ray,

>             > I guess my first question would be: what changed? I can't remember

> the last time I dug into the network settings.

>             > I've been using this exact same setup (GTOCP4, Cat5e, couple of

> network switches and a dual NIC) for well over

>             > a year.  Again, I did nothing, consciously, to change it.

>             >

>             > In order to simplify things I've run a single straight Cat5e cable

> between the mount and the computer. I also

>             > disconnected the two other Cat5e cables just to be sure.

>             >

>             > The one thing that changed right away is that clicking the Find

> button in the APCC Connection window shows the

>             > mount is available. However, I still cannot Unpark the mount with

> either the APCC button or the ASCOM

> V2

>             > button.

>             >

>             > I tried Unparking with both programs using the Last Park and Park 4 (my keypad needs an upgrade). No

>             > response.

>             >

>             > I also tried to first Park and then Unpark. Again, no response.

>             >

>             > Reconnecting the Internet-RigRunner cable - to the motherboard port - caused the connection to fail.

>             > Reconnecting the Digital Logger cable did not affect the connection.

>             >

>             > Your video lasted a lot longer than my test. I can, apparently,

> connect the mount to APCC and AP V2 but I am

>             > not able to use that connection in any meaningful way.

>             >

>             > I've again left some images in my Dropbox folder. They show the LAN

> settings and what happened when I tried

>             > Parking and Unparking. Hopefully, there might be a clue there.

>             > https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20Captures.zip?dl=0

>             >

>             >

>             > Thanks,

>             >

>             > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:44 AM Ray Gralak <groups3@...> wrote:

>             >

>             >

>             >       Dan,

>             >

>             >       One more thought...

>             >

>             >       if there is a router on your LAN with an internet connection, what is the subnet of the LAN you are

> using?

>             > (eg. 192.168.1.0)

>             >

>             >       If the CP4 is setup to accept a DHCP address it should be provided one by your router. It shouldn't

> need to

>             > be on the 169.254.1.x LAN.

>             >

>             >       -Ray Gralak

>             >       Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

>             >       Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com

>             >       Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

>             >

>             >

>             >       > -----Original Message-----

>             >       > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson

>             >       > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:57 AM

>             >       > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

>             >       > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

>             >       >

>             >       > Ray,

>             >       > Thanks for the video. I was unaware of the Find feature in the Connection box which is very nice.

>             >       >

>             >       > Unfortunately, when I click on the Find button the window pops up but does not show any

> connection

>             > options.

>             >       > I've attached a snip.

>             >       >

>             >       > Power is definitely on, Cat5e cable is blinking. Keypad is on.

>             >       >

>             >       > I also tried eliminating a couple of network switches with a straight run between the computer and

> the

>             > mount, but

>             >       > no joy.

>             >       >

>             >       > Closing the Find window and clicking on Mount Connect shows the mount as Parked,

> Tracking=Zero but

>             > the

>             >       > APCC Unpark button is non-functional.

>             >       >

>             >       > I went ahead and connected the AP V2 ASCOM Driver and tried Unpark. Again, the Mount Info

> Park

>             > shows

>             >       > Unparked for a moment but quickly reverts to Parked.

>             >       >

>             >       > I tried connecting TheSkyX and found I could connect and perform a successful goto.

>             >       >

>             >       > I tried Parking with TSX and it sent the mount to the Park position but the slew message said

> Parking

>             > and never

>             >       > went to Parked. TSX remained frozen in this state.

>             >       >

>             >       > So, what I believe is wrong is the GTOCP4 unit is hosed. There seems to be a communication

> issue

>             > where it is not

>             >       > reporting or recording the current state. It may be something in the firmware or it may be a physical

>             > problem. All of

>             >       > this is way beyond my pay grade. I think I need to contact AP directly and try to work through this

> with

>             > them. Do

>             >       > you think that is a reasonable conclusion?

>             >       >

>             >       > Thanks for all the time and help.

>             >       > Dan

>             >       >

>             >       >

>             >       > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:46 PM Dan Simpson via groups.io <dbs2144@...>

> wrote:

>             >       >

>             >       >

>             >       >       Thanks Ray, I'll take a look later this evening.

>             >       >

>             >       >       I will say I did forget to check that there was power to the mount when I first started up today.

> The

>             > runaway

>             >       > at the end of my last session had caused me to hit the power switch on the 12vdc power supply

> not my

>             > Digital

>             >       > Logger switch. When I switched on the DL this morning it faithfully switched on but the power

> supply

>             > switch was

>             >       > still off. Took me a bit to figure it out.

>             >       >

>             >       >       Thanks,

>             >       >       Dan

>             >       >

>             >       >       On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:23 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@...> wrote:

>             >       >

>             >       >

>             >       >               Dan,

>             >       >

>             >       >               Here is a link to the youtube video demonstrating park and unpark.

>             >       >

>             >       >               To provide a baseline try to perform the operations I do in the video *exactly* the way I

> have

>             > done

>             >       > them.

>             >       >

>             >       >               https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE

>             >       >

>             >       >               -Ray Gralak

>             >       >               Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-

> pro

>             >       >               Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com

>             >       >               Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

>             >       >

>             >       >

>             >       >

>             >       >

>             >       >

>             >       >

>             >       >

>             >       >

>             >       >

>             >       >

>             >

>             >

>             >

>             >

>             >

>             >

>             >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 


Re: Bad images _Bouncing stars

Michael Hambrick <mike.hambrick@...>
 

OK A little more clarification. My issue was caused by using too high a guide rate. This was with my old 800 mount with the old 8010 controller with mechanical relays. It had the option to change the guide rate and mine had somehow gotten changed from 2X to 8X and I was getting all kinds of weird behavior.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...




From:        "Michael Hambrick via groups.io" <mike.hambrick@...>
To:        main@ap-gto.groups.io
Date:        2020-04-28 09:45 AM
Subject:        Re: [ap-gto] Bad images _Bouncing stars
Sent by:        main@ap-gto.groups.io




Maybe try checking your guiding aggressiveness and response. It seems that I had a similar issue once when the guider was trying to overcorrect.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick

ARLANX
EO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...




From:        
"uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io" <chris1011@...>
To:        
main@ap-gto.groups.io
Date:        
2020-04-28 09:22 AM
Subject:        
Re: [ap-gto] Bad images _Bouncing stars
Sent by:        
main@ap-gto.groups.io




Which guider program?

MaximDL will do a zigzag search when it loses a guide star. The result is what you show in your image. PHD may also do something similar when the guide star is lost.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: John Thompson via groups.io <jbtgolfer@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Apr 28, 2020 8:44 am
Subject: [ap-gto] Bad images _Bouncing stars

I need some advice I am getting bad images 80% of the time due to "bouncing" stars. It's a zig -zag pattern. It seems to occur on the East side of my AP 1600 mount. I have attached an image. Has anyone seen this pattern and any suggestions?







Re: Bad images _Bouncing stars

Michael Hambrick <mike.hambrick@...>
 

Maybe try checking your guiding aggressiveness and response. It seems that I had a similar issue once when the guider was trying to overcorrect.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...




From:        "uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io" <chris1011@...>
To:        main@ap-gto.groups.io
Date:        2020-04-28 09:22 AM
Subject:        Re: [ap-gto] Bad images _Bouncing stars
Sent by:        main@ap-gto.groups.io




Which guider program?

MaximDL will do a zigzag search when it loses a guide star. The result is what you show in your image. PHD may also do something similar when the guide star is lost.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: John Thompson via groups.io <jbtgolfer@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Apr 28, 2020 8:44 am
Subject: [ap-gto] Bad images _Bouncing stars

I need some advice I am getting bad images 80% of the time due to "bouncing" stars. It's a zig -zag pattern. It seems to occur on the East side of my AP 1600 mount. I have attached an image. Has anyone seen this pattern and any suggestions?




Re: Bad images _Bouncing stars

Roland Christen
 

Which guider program?

MaximDL will do a zigzag search when it loses a guide star. The result is what you show in your image. PHD may also do something similar when the guide star is lost.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: John Thompson via groups.io <jbtgolfer@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Apr 28, 2020 8:44 am
Subject: [ap-gto] Bad images _Bouncing stars

I need some advice I am getting bad images 80% of the time due to "bouncing" stars. It's a zig -zag pattern. It seems to occur on the East side of my AP 1600 mount. I have attached an image. Has anyone seen this pattern and any suggestions?


Re: Bad images _Bouncing stars

W Hilmo
 

I had an issue on one outing with my AP1600 (with encoders), where I would get perfectly round stars – but a handful of them each night would have faint tails.

 

It looked for all the world like a mount problem, but it turned out to be something surprising.  What has happening is that after a filter change, my focuser would move a bit due to per-filter focus offsets.  If the offset caused the filter knob to turn counter-clockwise, everything would be fine.  If the filter offset caused a clockwise turn, however, my focus motor would do a large backlash runout.  Mirror shift during the backlash compensation would push the guide star out of position in the OAG.  The tail was the result of the image capture starting before the guide star was recovered.

 

To correct the problem in my case, I needed to disable guiding during filter change.

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Shade
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 7:04 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Bad images _Bouncing stars

 

I have had a similar problem with my 1600.  I run ACP...everything runs along fine...would shoot a series of R, G, B frames.  All of them are fine except there will be several in a row where the mount oscillated in RA-the star is there but there are "ears" where it oscillated.  Intermittent, which as you know are the hardest problems to DX.  No clouds or anything.  Have you seen what you mount can do unguided as a base?  Is everything smooth meaning cables and such?  Imaging train snug?

 

Mike J. Shade

Mike J. Shade Photography:

mshadephotography.com

 

In War: Resolution

In Defeat: Defiance

In Victory: Magnanimity

In Peace: Goodwill

Sir Winston Churchill

Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.

Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half

a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest

Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...

Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights

 

International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Thompson via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:44 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Bad images _Bouncing stars

 

I need some advice I am getting bad images 80% of the time due to "bouncing" stars. It's a zig -zag pattern. It seems to occur on the East side of my AP 1600 mount. I have attached an image. Has anyone seen this pattern and any suggestions?


Re: Bad images _Bouncing stars

 

are you guiding? if so, which guiding app


On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:44 AM John Thompson via groups.io <jbtgolfer=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I need some advice I am getting bad images 80% of the time due to "bouncing" stars. It's a zig -zag pattern. It seems to occur on the East side of my AP 1600 mount. I have attached an image. Has anyone seen this pattern and any suggestions?



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Brian 



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Re: Bad images _Bouncing stars

Roland Christen
 

Need more information:

Encoder or non-encoder mount?
Which axis?

Rolando



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Subject: [ap-gto] Bad images _Bouncing stars

I need some advice I am getting bad images 80% of the time due to "bouncing" stars. It's a zig -zag pattern. It seems to occur on the East side of my AP 1600 mount. I have attached an image. Has anyone seen this pattern and any suggestions?


Re: Bad images _Bouncing stars

Mike Shade
 

I have had a similar problem with my 1600.  I run ACP...everything runs along fine...would shoot a series of R, G, B frames.  All of them are fine except there will be several in a row where the mount oscillated in RA-the star is there but there are "ears" where it oscillated.  Intermittent, which as you know are the hardest problems to DX.  No clouds or anything.  Have you seen what you mount can do unguided as a base?  Is everything smooth meaning cables and such?  Imaging train snug?

 

Mike J. Shade

Mike J. Shade Photography:

mshadephotography.com

 

In War: Resolution

In Defeat: Defiance

In Victory: Magnanimity

In Peace: Goodwill

Sir Winston Churchill

Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.

Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half

a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest

Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...

Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights

 

International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Thompson via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:44 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Bad images _Bouncing stars

 

I need some advice I am getting bad images 80% of the time due to "bouncing" stars. It's a zig -zag pattern. It seems to occur on the East side of my AP 1600 mount. I have attached an image. Has anyone seen this pattern and any suggestions?


Re: AP1100 CP4 pier crash

Ray Gralak
 

Eric,

What is your use case where you would potentially leave the mount tracking?

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric M
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 12:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP1100 CP4 pier crash

Thanks for the info Ray, having a PC connected initially wouldn't be a problem and I very rarely unlock the
clutches. If it needs to be reprogrammed after every sync that sounds like it could be a pain, that is something I
frequently do.

Bryan the safe zones on page 41 are what I was hoping would be available, but it looks like this only protects
against a slew command putting it in an unwanted spot. It sounds like it does not offer protection for standard
tracking and doesn't accept values past the meridian.


Re: Bad images _Bouncing stars

Steve Reilly
 

I get this from time to time and it seems the guide star gets lost and you get these or worse results. It could have been at any point in the exposure that the clouds moved in temporarily or near the end. I have some from SRO that look like lightning strikes. Space lightning, yeah that’s what it is.

 

-Steve

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:44 AM
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Subject: [ap-gto] Bad images _Bouncing stars

 

I need some advice I am getting bad images 80% of the time due to "bouncing" stars. It's a zig -zag pattern. It seems to occur on the East side of my AP 1600 mount. I have attached an image. Has anyone seen this pattern and any suggestions?


Bad images _Bouncing stars

John Thompson <jbtgolfer@...>
 

I need some advice I am getting bad images 80% of the time due to "bouncing" stars. It's a zig -zag pattern. It seems to occur on the East side of my AP 1600 mount. I have attached an image. Has anyone seen this pattern and any suggestions?

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