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Mach1 CP3 pier crash!! (Similar to CP4 crash in another thread)
CurtisC
The scope ran all night and crashed into the pier. No damage to the scope. No visible damage to mount. BUT CP3 doesn't work. It doesn't light up, the keypad is off. The fuse on the power supply (Pyramid) looks good. Is there a fuse inside the CP3 that I should look at?
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Yves Laroche
I really understood the meaning. Just to be sure you're not thinking it was a UDP problem.
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Another thing I noticed...I got many errors because the motors were not plugged to the CP4 as they should. The View Error(s) button within APCC is still there even if I pressed the Clear Errors button. Also the big yellow window from the ASCOM driver still there. If I disconnect the ASCOM driver and connect it again, the same error rise again. Is it a normal behaviour? Thanks! Best regards, Yves
Le 28/04/20 19:03, Ray Gralak <groups3@...> a écrit :
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Ray Gralak
Hi Yves,
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Thanks for the additional data point! I didn't mean to imply using UDP is universally bad. In most cases there are no issues with using UDP, but it is possible for UDP packets to be dropped or sent out of order, which can cause problems. And specifically because there were issues I could not reproduce I wanted Steve to try using TCP instead. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Yves Laroche
Hi Ray,
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FYI, I have exactly the same setup as Steve (1200GTO, CP4 (latest firmware), latest ASCOM/APCC updates) and everything is working well with UDP. Always use UDP protocol. Just tested with my GTOCP4 without motors and no problem. Even watched Steve's video to be sure... Unchecked Auto-Connect and did see nothing. Regards, Yves
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Re: Bad images _Bouncing stars
Mike Shade
As I offered I had some weirdness with my setup. After much fidgeting and greasing the gears and a new PEC curve, I can go 382" (the worm period) and get round stars near zenith unguided. I could go 300", but that wasn't a complete worm cycle. This suggests strongly that the weirdness was not the mount. A good place to start to see what your mount can do.
Mike J. Shade Mike J. Shade Photography:
In War: Resolution In Defeat: Defiance In Victory: Magnanimity In Peace: Goodwill Sir Winston Churchill Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights. Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west. Can it be half a year since I watched her April rising in the east? Low in the southwest Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall... Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights
International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org
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main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Thompson via groups.io
I apologize. I should have provided more information in my
"bouncing stars"post. It's an AP 1600 mount (no Encoders) with a
TEC140 F/7 scope with a FLI Atlas focuser. It's running Maxim for the main
camera, SBIG STF-8300 and PHD for the guide camera, a SBIG ST-i. I am using
APCC Pro with SkyX for the planetary program. The focus program is FocusMax.
The session runs auto using CCDAutoPilot5. I am shooting LRGB 10 images each
filter @ 600 sec using a 5 pixel dither between images. PHD is running RA and
DEC in Hyperstasis with a 60 aggression setting with 3 sec exposures with
dithering. Actually the guiding looks very good with very few corrections and a
low RMS. I don;t believe the guide star is lost at any time but dithering might
be an issue. I will look at the guide logs for any clues. The only time I see
something "funny" is during the dithers. But the guiding stops during
the dithers and then re-aguires the guide star.
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Re: Bad images _Bouncing stars
Hi,
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Try to give more time for recentering and use the multistar guiding in maxim. Grüsse Konstantin v. Poschinger Hammerichstr. 5 22605 Hamburg 040/8805747 0171/1983476
Am 29.04.2020 um 00:34 schrieb John Thompson via groups.io <jbtgolfer@...>:
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Re: Bad images _Bouncing stars
John Thompson <jbtgolfer@...>
I apologize. I should have provided more information in my "bouncing stars"post. It's an AP 1600 mount (no Encoders) with a TEC140 F/7 scope with a FLI Atlas focuser. It's running Maxim for the main camera, SBIG STF-8300 and PHD for the guide camera, a SBIG ST-i. I am using APCC Pro with SkyX for the planetary program. The focus program is FocusMax. The session runs auto using CCDAutoPilot5. I am shooting LRGB 10 images each filter @ 600 sec using a 5 pixel dither between images. PHD is running RA and DEC in Hyperstasis with a 60 aggression setting with 3 sec exposures with dithering. Actually the guiding looks very good with very few corrections and a low RMS. I don;t believe the guide star is lost at any time but dithering might be an issue. I will look at the guide logs for any clues. The only time I see something "funny" is during the dithers. But the guiding stops during the dithers and then re-aguires the guide star.
The night was almost perfect, 5 by 5. No clouds or wind (3 MPH max) All cables are routed through the mount and appear ok. I may try some imaging at 600 sec with no guiding tonight and some with no dithering. Thank you all for the comments. Any other ideas are appreciated.
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Steve Reilly
The initialize window didn't open but that very 1st time however I did see Unpark become active.
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Sent private email to continue. -Steve
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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:47 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC APCC polls the CP4 once every 5 seconds for that particular status, so it can take up to that long to display in the user interface. However, the actual park status changes immediately in the CP4. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver -----Original Message-----
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Ray Gralak
APCC polls the CP4 once every 5 seconds for that particular status, so it can take up to that long to display in the user interface. However, the actual park status changes immediately in the CP4.
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-Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Ray Gralak
Oh, okay! That's good.
There still might be a problem somewhere else though. I just wanted to establish a baseline with something that I know should work. You can at least get the mount unparked via APCC via this method. If you don't want the mount to track when initialized you can unpark the mount but turn tracking off in the initialization settings by setting the tracking rate to "Zero". Now I've beenYes, you have to power down the mount and power it on again. The mount will not lose position when you do that. Let's take this to private email now. The next thing I would like you to try is connecting ACP to APCC but without APCC connecting itself to the driver. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver -----Original Message-----
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Steve Reilly
I did change to TCP and it worked. What I'm looking at now is I saw it initialize the mount the first time, disconnected, waited a bit, reconnected and no initializing that time. Cycled power and same result but I did see unpark become active shortly afterwards. Is that normal?
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-Steve
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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:35 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC You power cycled and the mount APCC could not unpark your mount using TCP? If so, please attach the APCC log file so I can see what happened. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver -----Original Message-----
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Steve Reilly
So I did as instructed and it appears to have worked. The only difference is the UDP /TCP connection. So now after all this time I have to wonder what happened that made UDP totally unreliable? And not sporadically but constantly. I'm not questioning your knowledge but rather my understanding of what and why. Now I've been disconnected for a while and just reconnected to the mount but no initializing of the mount. Does the power need to be disconnected/reconnected to prompt this again?
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-Steve
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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:25 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC Steve, I don't know what you are trying to show in that screen shot? Try these steps exactly: 1, Disconnect APCC from the mount. 2. Set TCP as the connection type. 3. Power off the mount and wait 5 seconds. 4. Power on the mount and wait another 5 seconds. 5. Connect APCC to the mount. APCC should initialize and unpark the mount after the countdown. If not unpark attach the APCC log (no need to zip, it should be short). No need for a video, just the log will be fine. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver -----Original Message-----
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
You power cycled the mount and APCC could not unpark your mount using TCP?
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If so, please attach the APCC log file so I can see what happened. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Steve Reilly
Done and done with same results. The UDP setting was used by Howard when we had problems with the system. That’s beyond my paygrade and seeing how all was working the other night with APCC out of the picture I didn’t want to lose any more imaging time as we’ve had dismal weather the past few months. The screen shot is what I see when I opened Initialize Settings. Already set as you said. And you can clearly see auto connect for the ASCOM driver is unchecked.
-Steve
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:18 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Steve,
You can edit the initialize settings from APCC's Settings tab like in this screen shot:
Make sure unpark from last park is configured. Also, don't forget to uncheck Auto-Connect in the AP V2 Deiver group box!
Then power cycle the mount.
The purpose of the apps being disconnected is so there is only one log file to look at. I don't care if you have ACP running as long as the ASCOM driver is not connected to APCC.
-Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
> -----Original Message----- > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Reilly > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:10 PM > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC > > Well if I could initialize the mount I would but I get a notice that it can not initialize the mount unless RA=0 and > DEC=90. The mount is parked where it always is at Park4. > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:50 PM > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC > > Steve, > > You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all those apps and try APCC by itself. I've said > this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests! > > Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup APCC to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT > connected. Also, use TCP instead of UDP because commands can be lost using UDP and for the purpose of this > test we want to be sure no commands are lost. > > Shut the mount off, then power it on. > > APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that? > > -Ray Gralak > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: > https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf > > Of Steve Reilly > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:28 PM > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC > > > > Ray, > > > > > > > > From our earlier email I had said that I could not unpark using APCC > > and that still holds true today. I did install both the newest APCC > > versions and ASCOM driver this afternoon and repeated the test. I had done this test before and after updates > today. To clear up any misunderstanding what I did I used Bandicam to record the tests. > > The same results so I just uploaded the newest versions test as they > > both have the same results. I can park when unparked but I can not > > unpark in APCC under any circumstances I know of. I can park and > > unpark at will with the driver. I can park in APCC after it's > > unparked. See this video > > <https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ev8cnm27a56hq1/bandicam%202020-04-28%2015- > > 54-01-424.avi?dl=0> > > > > I hope this sheds some light on the issue. If I did something > > incorrect please advise. Also as a point of interest I disabled APCC > > from my startup script for ACP Expert and have been able to image where with it not so much as it hangs > waiting on a mount response to parking/unparking which can affect if my roll off roof closes or not. > > Maybe my driver configuration? But that works by itself…. > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray > > Gralak > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:38 PM > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC > > > > > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > > > > > > I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning. > > > Had > > > > > to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly! > > > > > > > > So, the problem is not with the CP4 or the software, but likely your connection. > > > > > > > > > I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter > > > > > presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try? > > > > > > > > This is going to require you to learn a little about networking and > > your home router. That's going to be up to you to do that research. > > :-) > > > > > > > > That said, I suggest you follow what I suggested to Jack in a post > > yesterday. That is put your computer and CP4 on your local LAN and configure your home router to use DHCP > (usually they are set that way by default). > > > > > > > > Then APCC should be able to find your CP4 and communicate correctly. > > One caveat... when using DHCP the router may assign a different IP > > address to the CP4 each time the CP4 is power on. If you don't want > > to use the Find CP4/5 button in APCC when that happens then I suggest > > you configure your router to provide the CP4 with a static IP address. This will reserve that IP address for the > CP4 and it won't change as long as you use that router. > > > > > > > > -Ray Gralak > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): > > https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro <https://www.astro- > > physics.com/apcc-pro> > > > > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com > > <https://www.ccdware.com> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: > > https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver > > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> > > > [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf > > > > > Of Dan Simpson > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 9:39 AM > > > > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ray, > > > > > I did try using a USB cable yesterday but got no response from the mount. > > > > > > > > > > I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning. > > > Had > > > > > to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter > > > > > presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try? > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 9:30 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@... <mailto:groups3@...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > It sounds like you may have a network problem. So, did > > > you try the > > > > > alternative I suggested? That is connecting APCC via its USB or > > > serial port? If that works, or doesn't work, > > helps isolate the problem. > > > > > > > > > > -Ray Gralak > > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): > > > https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro > > <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro> > > > > > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com > > > <https://www.ccdware.com> > > > > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: > > > > > https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver > > > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io > > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:46 PM > > > > > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io > > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ray, > > > > > > I guess my first question would be: what changed? I > > > can't remember > > > > > the last time I dug into the network settings. > > > > > > I've been using this exact same setup (GTOCP4, Cat5e, > > > couple of > > > > > network switches and a dual NIC) for well over > > > > > > a year. Again, I did nothing, consciously, to change it. > > > > > > > > > > > > In order to simplify things I've run a single straight > > > Cat5e cable > > > > > between the mount and the computer. I also > > > > > > disconnected the two other Cat5e cables just to be sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > The one thing that changed right away is that clicking > > > the Find > > > > > button in the APCC Connection window shows the > > > > > > mount is available. However, I still cannot Unpark the > > > mount with > > > > > either the APCC button or the ASCOM > > > > > V2 > > > > > > button. > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried Unparking with both programs using the Last Park and Park 4 (my keypad needs an > upgrade). > > No > > > > > > response. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also tried to first Park and then Unpark. Again, no response. > > > > > > > > > > > > Reconnecting the Internet-RigRunner cable - to the motherboard port - caused the connection to > fail. > > > > > > Reconnecting the Digital Logger cable did not affect the connection. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your video lasted a lot longer than my test. I can, > > > apparently, > > > > > connect the mount to APCC and AP V2 but I am > > > > > > not able to use that connection in any meaningful way. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've again left some images in my Dropbox folder. They > > > show the LAN > > > > > settings and what happened when I tried > > > > > > Parking and Unparking. Hopefully, there might be a clue there. > > > > > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20 > > > Captures.zip?dl=0 > > <https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20C > > aptures.zip?dl=0> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:44 AM Ray Gralak > > > <groups3@... <mailto:groups3@...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thought... > > > > > > > > > > > > if there is a router on your LAN with an internet connection, what is the subnet of the LAN you > are > > > > > using? > > > > > > (eg. 192.168.1.0) > > > > > > > > > > > > If the CP4 is setup to accept a DHCP address it should be provided one by your router. It > > shouldn't > > > > > need to > > > > > > be on the 169.254.1.x LAN. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ray Gralak > > > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro > > <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro> > > > > > > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com> > > > > > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver > > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap- > gto.groups.io > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:57 AM > > > > > > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ray, > > > > > > > Thanks for the video. I was unaware of the Find feature in the Connection box which is very > > nice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, when I click on the Find button the window pops up but does not show any > > > > > connection > > > > > > options. > > > > > > > I've attached a snip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Power is definitely on, Cat5e cable is blinking. Keypad is on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also tried eliminating a couple of network switches with a straight run between the computer > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > mount, but > > > > > > > no joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Closing the Find window and clicking on Mount Connect shows the mount as Parked, > > > > > Tracking=Zero but > > > > > > the > > > > > > > APCC Unpark button is non-functional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I went ahead and connected the AP V2 ASCOM Driver and tried Unpark. Again, the Mount > Info > > > > > Park > > > > > > shows > > > > > > > Unparked for a moment but quickly reverts to Parked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried connecting TheSkyX and found I could connect and perform a successful goto. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried Parking with TSX and it sent the mount to the Park position but the slew message said > > > > > Parking > > > > > > and never > > > > > > > went to Parked. TSX remained frozen in this state. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, what I believe is wrong is the GTOCP4 unit is hosed. There seems to be a > communication > > > > > issue > > > > > > where it is not > > > > > > > reporting or recording the current state. It may be something in the firmware or it may be a > > physical > > > > > > problem. All of > > > > > > > this is way beyond my pay grade. I think I need to contact AP directly and try to work through > > this > > > > > with > > > > > > them. Do > > > > > > > you think that is a reasonable conclusion? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for all the time and help. > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:46 PM Dan Simpson via groups.io > <dbs2144@... > > <mailto:dbs2144@...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ray, I'll take a look later this evening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will say I did forget to check that there was power to the mount when I first started up > > today. > > > > > The > > > > > > runaway > > > > > > > at the end of my last session had caused me to hit the power switch on the 12vdc power > supply > > > > > not my > > > > > > Digital > > > > > > > Logger switch. When I switched on the DL this morning it faithfully switched on but the power > > > > > supply > > > > > > switch was > > > > > > > still off. Took me a bit to figure it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:23 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@... > > <mailto:groups3@...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a link to the youtube video demonstrating park and unpark. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To provide a baseline try to perform the operations I do in the video *exactly* the way > I > > > > > have > > > > > > done > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE <https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ray Gralak > > > > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro- > > physics.com/apcc- <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-> > > > > > pro > > > > > > > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com> > > > > > > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver > > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Ray Gralak
Steve,
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I don't know what you are trying to show in that screen shot? Try these steps exactly: 1, Disconnect APCC from the mount. 2. Set TCP as the connection type. 3. Power off the mount and wait 5 seconds. 4. Power on the mount and wait another 5 seconds. 5. Connect APCC to the mount. APCC should initialize and unpark the mount after the countdown. If not unpark attach the APCC log (no need to zip, it should be short). No need for a video, just the log will be fine. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Steve Reilly
Here's the window capture but the warning disappears within 4-5 seconds.
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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:50 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC Steve, You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all those apps and try APCC by itself. I've said this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests! Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup APCC to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT connected. Also, use TCP instead of UDP because commands can be lost using UDP and for the purpose of this test we want to be sure no commands are lost. Shut the mount off, then power it on. APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that? -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver -----Original Message-----
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Ray Gralak
Steve,
You can edit the initialize settings from APCC's Settings tab like in this screen shot:
Make sure unpark from last park is configured. Also, don't forget to uncheck Auto-Connect in the AP V2 Deiver group box!
Then power cycle the mount.
The purpose of the apps being disconnected is so there is only one log file to look at. I don't care if you have ACP running as long as the ASCOM driver is not connected to APCC.
-Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
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> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Reilly > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:10 PM > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC > > Well if I could initialize the mount I would but I get a notice that it can not initialize the mount unless RA=0 and > DEC=90. The mount is parked where it always is at Park4. > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:50 PM > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC > > Steve, > > You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all those apps and try APCC by itself. I've said > this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests! > > Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup APCC to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT > connected. Also, use TCP instead of UDP because commands can be lost using UDP and for the purpose of this > test we want to be sure no commands are lost. > > Shut the mount off, then power it on. > > APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that? > > -Ray Gralak > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: > https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf > > Of Steve Reilly > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:28 PM > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC > > > > Ray, > > > > > > > > From our earlier email I had said that I could not unpark using APCC > > and that still holds true today. I did install both the newest APCC > > versions and ASCOM driver this afternoon and repeated the test. I had done this test before and after updates > today. To clear up any misunderstanding what I did I used Bandicam to record the tests. > > The same results so I just uploaded the newest versions test as they > > both have the same results. I can park when unparked but I can not > > unpark in APCC under any circumstances I know of. I can park and > > unpark at will with the driver. I can park in APCC after it's > > unparked. See this video > > <https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ev8cnm27a56hq1/bandicam%202020-04-28%2015- > > 54-01-424.avi?dl=0> > > > > I hope this sheds some light on the issue. If I did something > > incorrect please advise. Also as a point of interest I disabled APCC > > from my startup script for ACP Expert and have been able to image where with it not so much as it hangs > waiting on a mount response to parking/unparking which can affect if my roll off roof closes or not. > > Maybe my driver configuration? But that works by itself…. > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray > > Gralak > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:38 PM > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC > > > > > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > > > > > > I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning. > > > Had > > > > > to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly! > > > > > > > > So, the problem is not with the CP4 or the software, but likely your connection. > > > > > > > > > I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter > > > > > presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try? > > > > > > > > This is going to require you to learn a little about networking and > > your home router. That's going to be up to you to do that research. > > :-) > > > > > > > > That said, I suggest you follow what I suggested to Jack in a post > > yesterday. That is put your computer and CP4 on your local LAN and configure your home router to use DHCP > (usually they are set that way by default). > > > > > > > > Then APCC should be able to find your CP4 and communicate correctly. > > One caveat... when using DHCP the router may assign a different IP > > address to the CP4 each time the CP4 is power on. If you don't want > > to use the Find CP4/5 button in APCC when that happens then I suggest > > you configure your router to provide the CP4 with a static IP address. This will reserve that IP address for the > CP4 and it won't change as long as you use that router. > > > > > > > > -Ray Gralak > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): > > https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro <https://www.astro- > > physics.com/apcc-pro> > > > > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com > > <https://www.ccdware.com> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: > > https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver > > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> > > > [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf > > > > > Of Dan Simpson > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 9:39 AM > > > > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ray, > > > > > I did try using a USB cable yesterday but got no response from the mount. > > > > > > > > > > I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning. > > > Had > > > > > to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the adapter > > > > > presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try? > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 9:30 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@... <mailto:groups3@...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > It sounds like you may have a network problem. So, did > > > you try the > > > > > alternative I suggested? That is connecting APCC via its USB or > > > serial port? If that works, or doesn't work, > > helps isolate the problem. > > > > > > > > > > -Ray Gralak > > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): > > > https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro > > <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro> > > > > > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com > > > <https://www.ccdware.com> > > > > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: > > > > > https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver > > > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io > > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:46 PM > > > > > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io > > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ray, > > > > > > I guess my first question would be: what changed? I > > > can't remember > > > > > the last time I dug into the network settings. > > > > > > I've been using this exact same setup (GTOCP4, Cat5e, > > > couple of > > > > > network switches and a dual NIC) for well over > > > > > > a year. Again, I did nothing, consciously, to change it. > > > > > > > > > > > > In order to simplify things I've run a single straight > > > Cat5e cable > > > > > between the mount and the computer. I also > > > > > > disconnected the two other Cat5e cables just to be sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > The one thing that changed right away is that clicking > > > the Find > > > > > button in the APCC Connection window shows the > > > > > > mount is available. However, I still cannot Unpark the > > > mount with > > > > > either the APCC button or the ASCOM > > > > > V2 > > > > > > button. > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried Unparking with both programs using the Last Park and Park 4 (my keypad needs an > upgrade). > > No > > > > > > response. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also tried to first Park and then Unpark. Again, no response. > > > > > > > > > > > > Reconnecting the Internet-RigRunner cable - to the motherboard port - caused the connection to > fail. > > > > > > Reconnecting the Digital Logger cable did not affect the connection. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your video lasted a lot longer than my test. I can, > > > apparently, > > > > > connect the mount to APCC and AP V2 but I am > > > > > > not able to use that connection in any meaningful way. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've again left some images in my Dropbox folder. They > > > show the LAN > > > > > settings and what happened when I tried > > > > > > Parking and Unparking. Hopefully, there might be a clue there. > > > > > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20 > > > Captures.zip?dl=0 > > <https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen%20C > > aptures.zip?dl=0> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:44 AM Ray Gralak > > > <groups3@... <mailto:groups3@...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thought... > > > > > > > > > > > > if there is a router on your LAN with an internet connection, what is the subnet of the LAN you > are > > > > > using? > > > > > > (eg. 192.168.1.0) > > > > > > > > > > > > If the CP4 is setup to accept a DHCP address it should be provided one by your router. It > > shouldn't > > > > > need to > > > > > > be on the 169.254.1.x LAN. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ray Gralak > > > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro > > <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro> > > > > > > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com> > > > > > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver > > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> [mailto:main@ap- > gto.groups.io > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:57 AM > > > > > > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ray, > > > > > > > Thanks for the video. I was unaware of the Find feature in the Connection box which is very > > nice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, when I click on the Find button the window pops up but does not show any > > > > > connection > > > > > > options. > > > > > > > I've attached a snip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Power is definitely on, Cat5e cable is blinking. Keypad is on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also tried eliminating a couple of network switches with a straight run between the computer > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > mount, but > > > > > > > no joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Closing the Find window and clicking on Mount Connect shows the mount as Parked, > > > > > Tracking=Zero but > > > > > > the > > > > > > > APCC Unpark button is non-functional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I went ahead and connected the AP V2 ASCOM Driver and tried Unpark. Again, the Mount > Info > > > > > Park > > > > > > shows > > > > > > > Unparked for a moment but quickly reverts to Parked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried connecting TheSkyX and found I could connect and perform a successful goto. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried Parking with TSX and it sent the mount to the Park position but the slew message said > > > > > Parking > > > > > > and never > > > > > > > went to Parked. TSX remained frozen in this state. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, what I believe is wrong is the GTOCP4 unit is hosed. There seems to be a > communication > > > > > issue > > > > > > where it is not > > > > > > > reporting or recording the current state. It may be something in the firmware or it may be a > > physical > > > > > > problem. All of > > > > > > > this is way beyond my pay grade. I think I need to contact AP directly and try to work through > > this > > > > > with > > > > > > them. Do > > > > > > > you think that is a reasonable conclusion? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for all the time and help. > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:46 PM Dan Simpson via groups.io > <dbs2144@... > > <mailto:dbs2144@...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ray, I'll take a look later this evening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will say I did forget to check that there was power to the mount when I first started up > > today. > > > > > The > > > > > > runaway > > > > > > > at the end of my last session had caused me to hit the power switch on the 12vdc power > supply > > > > > not my > > > > > > Digital > > > > > > > Logger switch. When I switched on the DL this morning it faithfully switched on but the power > > > > > supply > > > > > > switch was > > > > > > > still off. Took me a bit to figure it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:23 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@... > > <mailto:groups3@...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a link to the youtube video demonstrating park and unpark. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To provide a baseline try to perform the operations I do in the video *exactly* the way > I > > > > > have > > > > > > done > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE <https://youtu.be/shWsRr-gRWE> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ray Gralak > > > > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro- > > physics.com/apcc- <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-> > > > > > pro > > > > > > > Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com> > > > > > > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver > > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Steve Reilly
The only apps I was using was APCC and the ASCOM driver. What others are you referring to. Yeas, ACP and Expert are running but in no way were connected to the mount or any hardware at that point. Same with the roof controller and cloud sensor. You're welcome to TV in if that's any help.
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-Steve
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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:50 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC Steve, You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all those apps and try APCC by itself. I've said this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests! Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup APCC to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT connected. Also, use TCP instead of UDP because commands can be lost using UDP and for the purpose of this test we want to be sure no commands are lost. Shut the mount off, then power it on. APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that? -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver -----Original Message-----
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Steve Reilly
Well if I could initialize the mount I would but I get a notice that it can not initialize the mount unless RA=0 and DEC=90. The mount is parked where it always is at Park4.
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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:50 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC Steve, You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all those apps and try APCC by itself. I've said this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests! Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup APCC to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT connected. Also, use TCP instead of UDP because commands can be lost using UDP and for the purpose of this test we want to be sure no commands are lost. Shut the mount off, then power it on. APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that? -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver -----Original Message-----
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
Ray Gralak
Steve,
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You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all those apps and try APCC by itself. I've said this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests! Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup APCC to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT connected. Also, use TCP instead of UDP because commands can be lost using UDP and for the purpose of this test we want to be sure no commands are lost. Shut the mount off, then power it on. APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that? -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
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