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Re: APCC and APPM is amazing

myrussellm
 

Barry

looks like the image has an internal reflection of the CCD Chip

Cheers Mike


Re: Automating Meridian Flips with APCC Pro and with Sequence Generator #APCC

Roland Christen
 

I guess I'm not used to such tiny pixels ;^))

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Jacobsen <deanjacobsen@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jun 13, 2020 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Automating Meridian Flips with APCC Pro and with Sequence Generator #APCC

Thanks for taking a look Roland and Terri.

Roland, it is a single frame.  The detector on the ASI1600MM-C is the same size as your QSI 683 -> 4/3".  The vertical has been cropped down a little to make it a little easier to look at since the image was rotated 90 degrees.
--
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Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: M100

Dean Jacobsen
 

Very nice detail in the galaxy's core.
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Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: Automating Meridian Flips with APCC Pro and with Sequence Generator #APCC

Dean Jacobsen
 

Thanks for taking a look Roland and Terri.

Roland, it is a single frame.  The detector on the ASI1600MM-C is the same size as your QSI 683 -> 4/3".  The vertical has been cropped down a little to make it a little easier to look at since the image was rotated 90 degrees.
--
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http://astrophoto.net/wp/ 
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: [ap-ug] M100

Pete Lardizabal
 

Without...

😆

Pete

On Jun 13, 2020, at 6:06 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


With or without a miniature umbrella?

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Lardizabal <p14@...>
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io
Cc: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jun 13, 2020 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] [ap-ug] M100


Simply marvelous. 

Roland in Hawaii...

“Oh Bartender! I’ll have a M100 please! You know... use an AP175 with a QSI 683 wsg-8 served on an AP1600AE gently stirred... NOT SHAKEN!”

🙃

Pete

On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:13 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Just posted another image taken in Hawaii with 1600AE mount and keypad modeling. 300 sec x 34 frames

https://www.astrobin.com/full/tjqtnq/0/


Re: Automating Meridian Flips with APCC Pro and with Sequence Generator #APCC

Terri Zittritsch
 

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 05:02 PM, Dean Jacobsen wrote:
ere is a link to my first ever unguided image using the Mach2 and APCC/APPM.

It is only at 318mm focal length but I guess you have to start somewhere:

https://www.astrobin.com/full/01gevt/0/
--

Dean, that's a gorgeous shot, wow!
The last time I took the crescent was back with a T3i canon on my ES102, needless to say, I didn't capture the fine details that you have captured here. 

Terri

Terri


Re: [ap-ug] M100

Roland Christen
 

With or without a miniature umbrella?

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Lardizabal <p14@...>
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io
Cc: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jun 13, 2020 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] [ap-ug] M100


Simply marvelous. 

Roland in Hawaii...

“Oh Bartender! I’ll have a M100 please! You know... use an AP175 with a QSI 683 wsg-8 served on an AP1600AE gently stirred... NOT SHAKEN!”

🙃

Pete

On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:13 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Just posted another image taken in Hawaii with 1600AE mount and keypad modeling. 300 sec x 34 frames

https://www.astrobin.com/full/tjqtnq/0/


Re: [ap-ug] M100

Pete Lardizabal
 


Simply marvelous. 

Roland in Hawaii...

“Oh Bartender! I’ll have a M100 please! You know... use an AP175 with a QSI 683 wsg-8 served on an AP1600AE gently stirred... NOT SHAKEN!”

🙃

Pete

On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:13 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Just posted another image taken in Hawaii with 1600AE mount and keypad modeling. 300 sec x 34 frames

https://www.astrobin.com/full/tjqtnq/0/


Re: Automating Meridian Flips with APCC Pro and with Sequence Generator #APCC

Roland Christen
 

Great image. Is that a single or mosaic?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Jacobsen <deanjacobsen@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jun 13, 2020 4:02 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Automating Meridian Flips with APCC Pro and with Sequence Generator #APCC

Here is a link to my first ever unguided image using the Mach2 and APCC/APPM.

It is only at 318mm focal length but I guess you have to start somewhere:

https://www.astrobin.com/full/01gevt/0/
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/ 
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: Automating Meridian Flips with APCC Pro and with Sequence Generator #APCC

Dean Jacobsen
 

Here is a link to my first ever unguided image using the Mach2 and APCC/APPM.

It is only at 318mm focal length but I guess you have to start somewhere:

https://www.astrobin.com/full/01gevt/0/
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/ 
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: Automating Meridian Flips with APCC Pro and with Sequence Generator #APCC

Dean Jacobsen
 

Thanks for the tips Terri.  I am slowly getting things figured out... one piece at a time. 

I got point mapping and tracking rate correction for unguided imaging working last night.  
--
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Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: Last night tracking with Mach2

Terri Zittritsch
 

Rolando, thank you for the update.   There's been a couple of times now where I just wanted to roll the scope out during the day to use it for solar viewing, but didn't because i didn't want to get the table, chairs, etc, etc..
Looking forward to helping you test.

Terri


On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 01:53 PM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> wrote:
We are working on the instruction manual as I type. Without this it may e difficult to operate all the new features.
 
I'm as anxious as you are to get this part of the project done. You will be asked to be one of the first beta testers, since you have the keypad. You will need to download the latest software both for your mount and for the keypad since we made some changes in both.
 
Rolando
 


M100

Roland Christen
 

Just posted another image taken in Hawaii with 1600AE mount and keypad modeling. 300 sec x 34 frames

https://www.astrobin.com/full/tjqtnq/0/


Re: Last night tracking with Mach2

Dean Jacobsen
 
Edited

OK, got it.  


BTW, did my first APPM mapping run last night and activated tracking rate correction for the first time with the Mach2.  (Third use of the mount under the stars. ) Got a series of 56 x 4 min. unguided narrowband exposures over 3.7 hours.  The modeling - 68 points or so - took a half an hour while it was getting dark, the sky was settling down and the optics were cooling down.  

It worked wonderfully.  Used all 56 frames in the integration stack.

I am very impressed with the mount and the software.  
--
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http://astrophoto.net/wp/ 
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: Last night tracking with Mach2

Roland Christen
 

APPM works differently - it does not use bright stars, just star fields. You need dark skies for that to do plate solves. In my keypad routine you send the mount to known stars using a planetarium program. Completely different way of doing a model.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jun 13, 2020 9:31 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Last night tracking with Mach2

So can anyone do this with just a mount and APPM? Using a Ha filter 2 hrs before sunset at .03sec exposure and build a model????
 
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Terri Zittritsch
Sent: June 13, 2020 6:55 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Last night tracking with Mach2
 
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 08:46 PM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> wrote:
You can set up the model ahead of time, during twilight, and do it on both sides of the mount. I set up my model 2 hours before sunset using Ha filter on my camera with exposures of .03 seconds. I could easily capture stars down to mag4.5. I would not take up precious clear sky imaging time to establish a model at night.
 
Roland
I think what you're explaining is your new hand controller SW for the mach2, can you say when it might be available?    I'd like to be able to use the hand controller at some point, even if it doesn't have all of the fancy features enabled yet.   Right now, always teathered to my PC.  I don't want it before it's ready, but is there some outlook?


Thanks,
Terri


Re: Last night tracking with Mach2

Roland Christen
 

We are working on the instruction manual as I type. Without this it may e difficult to operate all the new features.

I'm as anxious as you are to get this part of the project done. You will be asked to be one of the first beta testers, since you have the keypad. You will need to download the latest software both for your mount and for the keypad since we made some changes in both.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Terri Zittritsch <theresamarie11@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jun 13, 2020 8:55 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Last night tracking with Mach2

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 08:46 PM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> wrote:
You can set up the model ahead of time, during twilight, and do it on both sides of the mount. I set up my model 2 hours before sunset using Ha filter on my camera with exposures of .03 seconds. I could easily capture stars down to mag4.5. I would not take up precious clear sky imaging time to establish a model at night.
 
Roland
I think what you're explaining is your new hand controller SW for the mach2, can you say when it might be available?    I'd like to be able to use the hand controller at some point, even if it doesn't have all of the fancy features enabled yet.   Right now, always teathered to my PC.  I don't want it before it's ready, but is there some outlook?


Thanks,
Terri


Re: Mach1 Grease kit were? is it hiding on the site?

Roland Christen
 

Well maybe, but "I" was the one who should have known better. So there!

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jun 13, 2020 6:29 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 Grease kit were? is it hiding on the site?

If I remember correctly, although I was just assisting Roland, *I* was the one who spun the axis around and tore the cable in half on the hard plastic cable guide that comes with the 1100/1600 mounts.
 
I also don't use the hard plastic cable guides any more either! I now have two of them that live in my spare parts bins.
 
 
-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marj Christen
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 4:44 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 Grease kit were? is it hiding on the site?

It was very kind of Chris to take the blame himself in his initial post. ;^)
 
It was one of those dope slapping moments that can easily occur at 9,000’ elevation when the brain can become a bit fuzzy.
 
Clear Skies,
 
Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Rd
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-0910
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
 
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 7:52 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 Grease kit were? is it hiding on the site?
 
Yes, and I managed to break a cable on the Mauna Kea Visitor center 1100 mount doing a "regreasing" without thinking about the Dec encoder cable inside the mount.  Christopher was there watching me do it, but fortunately had all the tools and soldering iron in his truck for a quick repair job.
 
Rolando
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Jun 12, 2020 4:56 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 Grease kit were? is it hiding on the site?
WARNING TO ALL REGREASERS!
 
Consider removing any cables going through the mount before regreasing operations. If you forget and spin one of the axes more than 360 degrees, you could damage your cables.
 
I share this warning from personal experience!

-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   
 
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 9:36 AM Cheng-Yang Tan via groups.io <cytan299=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Ron,
    Thanks for the photos and video. Keep 'em coming :)
 
cytan
 
On Friday, June 12, 2020, 01:45:24 PM CDT, Ron Kramer <ronkramer1957@...> wrote:
 
 
Gease kit was already SHIPPED today that was fast!   Here is my current steps.  Looks okay, I don't see crud... but I suspect a hair or shaving of metal can bump it.  I have some snaps and a video just disassembled. Grease to come monday UPS.
 
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 1:30 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@...> wrote:
> Is there a way to keep the rotation turning without a HC?  I am holding mouse on APCC pro to watch it turn but

On APCC's rate settings tab you can enter a custom tracking rate which the mount will continue to use until you change it or stop tracking.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Kramer
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:26 AM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 Grease kit were? is it hiding on the site?
>
> Great thanks - removed it easily (lock down screws were TIGHT. !!!
>
> Is there a way to keep the rotation turning without a HC?  I am holding mouse on APCC pro to watch it turn but
> I'd like to keep it turning. O ordered kit.  will be here likely monday.
> I have a MS kit from amazon here but I read don't use "S" AERO grease.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:24 PM uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io
> <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
>
>       The gearbox is easy to grease. Just remove the cover and the pinion gears are exposed. You can clean
> them as often as you wish. The worm teeth are harder to get to.
>
>
>       Rolando
>
>
>
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Keith <keitholsen@...>
>       To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
>       Sent: Fri, Jun 12, 2020 11:10 am
>       Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 Grease kit were? is it hiding on the site?
>
>
>       Thanks Roland this is great.
>
>       Does the grease in the gear box need to be changed as often(or if at all) as the worm and worm wheel
> grease?
>
>       Keith
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Ron Kramer
> https://www.facebook.com/Ron.R.Kramer
>
>




 
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Re: Last night tracking with Mach2

Roland Christen
 


So the model is still valid after a meridian flip?
Each side has its own model. You make a model for one side, then you make a model for the other side. You do this before it gets dark. When you are actually imaging, the models will be applied according to which side you are on. If you never move the mount (i.e. permanent setup) then the model will be good essentially forever. I made a model a week ago, I used it every clear night after that and it worked the same every night.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Jacobsen <deanjacobsen@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jun 13, 2020 3:07 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Last night tracking with Mach2

So the model is still valid after a meridian flip?
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Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: Last night tracking with Mach2

Dominique Durand
 
Edited

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 03:55 PM, Terri Zittritsch wrote:
I think what you're explaining is your new hand controller SW for the mach2, can you say when it might be available?    I'd like to be able to use the hand controller at some point, even if it doesn't have all of the fancy features enabled yet.   Right now, always teathered to my PC.  I don't want it before it's ready, but is there some outlook?
Me too, I would like to be able to have it, even if with the PC it goes perfectly well, because once the model is done it rolls by itself.His arrival with my stowaway's 92TCC will make him happy.

And congratulations Rolando, because new demonstration that with this frame we can put guide glasses, optical dividers, guide cameras and other PHD2 in the closet, with or without keypad.


Re: Mach1 Grease kit were? is it hiding on the site?

Ron Kramer
 

good to know on cables/rotation.  Monday's project once kit arrives. 

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 7:29 AM Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...> wrote:
If I remember correctly, although I was just assisting Roland, *I* was the one who spun the axis around and tore the cable in half on the hard plastic cable guide that comes with the 1100/1600 mounts.
 
I also don't use the hard plastic cable guides any more either! I now have two of them that live in my spare parts bins.
 
 
-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marj Christen
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 4:44 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 Grease kit were? is it hiding on the site?

It was very kind of Chris to take the blame himself in his initial post. ;^)

 

It was one of those dope slapping moments that can easily occur at 9,000’ elevation when the brain can become a bit fuzzy.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-0910

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 7:52 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 Grease kit were? is it hiding on the site?

 

Yes, and I managed to break a cable on the Mauna Kea Visitor center 1100 mount doing a "regreasing" without thinking about the Dec encoder cable inside the mount.  Christopher was there watching me do it, but fortunately had all the tools and soldering iron in his truck for a quick repair job.

 

Rolando

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Jun 12, 2020 4:56 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 Grease kit were? is it hiding on the site?

WARNING TO ALL REGREASERS!

 

Consider removing any cables going through the mount before regreasing operations. If you forget and spin one of the axes more than 360 degrees, you could damage your cables.

 

I share this warning from personal experience!


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

 

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 9:36 AM Cheng-Yang Tan via groups.io <cytan299=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Ron,

    Thanks for the photos and video. Keep 'em coming :)

 

cytan

 

On Friday, June 12, 2020, 01:45:24 PM CDT, Ron Kramer <ronkramer1957@...> wrote:

 

 

Gease kit was already SHIPPED today that was fast!   Here is my current steps.  Looks okay, I don't see crud... but I suspect a hair or shaving of metal can bump it.  I have some snaps and a video just disassembled. Grease to come monday UPS.

 

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 1:30 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@...> wrote:

> Is there a way to keep the rotation turning without a HC?  I am holding mouse on APCC pro to watch it turn but

On APCC's rate settings tab you can enter a custom tracking rate which the mount will continue to use until you change it or stop tracking.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Kramer
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:26 AM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 Grease kit were? is it hiding on the site?
>
> Great thanks - removed it easily (lock down screws were TIGHT. !!!
>
> Is there a way to keep the rotation turning without a HC?  I am holding mouse on APCC pro to watch it turn but
> I'd like to keep it turning. O ordered kit.  will be here likely monday.
> I have a MS kit from amazon here but I read don't use "S" AERO grease.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:24 PM uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io
> <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
>
>       The gearbox is easy to grease. Just remove the cover and the pinion gears are exposed. You can clean
> them as often as you wish. The worm teeth are harder to get to.
>
>
>       Rolando
>
>
>
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Keith <keitholsen@...>
>       To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
>       Sent: Fri, Jun 12, 2020 11:10 am
>       Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 Grease kit were? is it hiding on the site?
>
>
>       Thanks Roland this is great.
>
>       Does the grease in the gear box need to be changed as often(or if at all) as the worm and worm wheel
> grease?
>
>       Keith
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Ron Kramer
> https://www.facebook.com/Ron.R.Kramer
>
>




 

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