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Re: APPM cannot connect to camera via SGP

Luca Marinelli
 

Thanks, Eric! Too late to create a new model tonight but I'll give it a shot next time around.

Luca

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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Weiner via groups.io
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 8:14 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APPM cannot connect to camera via SGP

Luca,

There have been a few bugs which have shown up in 4.661 (64 bit). Not necessarily what you’re seeing, but they have admitted other issues exist in that beta version and recommend rolling back to 4.657. For me, my equipment profiles were inaccessible. Something to do with the Pegasus UPBv2 implementation. Rolling back fixed that issue. Something to try anyways.

Eric


Re: APPM cannot connect to camera via SGP

Eric Weiner
 

Luca,

There have been a few bugs which have shown up in 4.661 (64 bit). Not necessarily what you’re seeing, but they have admitted other issues exist in that beta version and recommend rolling back to 4.657. For me, my equipment profiles were inaccessible. Something to do with the Pegasus UPBv2 implementation. Rolling back fixed that issue. Something to try anyways.

Eric


Re: Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

Roger Howard
 

Nice Eric!


APPM cannot connect to camera via SGP

Luca Marinelli
 

Hi Ray,

I was trying to build a new model for my AP1100 tonight with APCC Pro v1.8.8.17 via SGP v4.661 and a QHY 268M camera and APPM was giving an error message "Failed to connect to Camera: cannot Connect: Please make sure the camera is connected in Sequence Generator Pro". The camera is connected in SGP, as you can see in the screenshot via the QHY ASCOM driver (ASCOM v6.5 SP1). Incidentally on the screen on the left you can see APPM running on the other system (Mach2 with ZWO ASI6200MM camera) without any problems. Do you know what might be the issue or how to troubleshoot it further?

Thanks,

Luca


Re: Which IPad

Joseph Bianco
 

I use an iPad mini with WIFI only and have entered the coordinates of my remote sites using the data from my iPhone and stored the data in my “User-Defined Observing Sites”. I use 10 sites stored from places in the US and Europe. It’s fun to ask SkySafari what would the sky look like from Palermo Italy

Joseph


Re: Which IPad

thefamily90 Phillips
 

Ok, thanks very much!

JimP


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Woody Schlom <woody_is@...>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 5:28:30 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which IPad
 

Jim,

 

I’m not an Apple guy and am not familiar with iPads.  HOWEVER – unless Apple has recently changed their packaging and marketing, you only get built-in GPS if you get an iPad with a modem.  So if you buy an iPad that doesn’t have a modem, you won’t be able to take advantage of the automatic GPS location feature in SkySafari.

 

Yes, you can still manually input your location.  And if you’re using WiFi, SkySafari will take a location from the WiFi’s signal (which can be way off depending on where the WiFi signal is getting its location from).  But without a built-in GPS, SkySafari can’t do it automatically.  I learned this when I bought an iPad for my brother with the intention of using it on his boat.  I had to buy one with a modem.

 

Many Android tablets are the same way – but not all.  I learned the hard way.  After my initial mistake I was able to find a Samsung tablet without modem, but with built-in GPS.  But that was years ago.

 

So if you want to take advantage of SkySafari’s automatic GPS location feature, make sure you buy an iPad with a built-in GPS – which probably means built-in modem too.  You don’t have to activate the iPad with its own cellular account.   But you do have to buy the more expensive version with the cellular modem.

 

Woody

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of thefamily90 Phillips
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 1:41 PM
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Subject: [ap-gto] Which IPad

 

Having used sky safari pro on my iPhone  for a while I have decided I want a larger screen. Which iPad would you recommend for use with Skye safari?

 

Best,

 

JimP 


Re: Which IPad

Woody Schlom
 

Jim,

 

I’m not an Apple guy and am not familiar with iPads.  HOWEVER – unless Apple has recently changed their packaging and marketing, you only get built-in GPS if you get an iPad with a modem.  So if you buy an iPad that doesn’t have a modem, you won’t be able to take advantage of the automatic GPS location feature in SkySafari.

 

Yes, you can still manually input your location.  And if you’re using WiFi, SkySafari will take a location from the WiFi’s signal (which can be way off depending on where the WiFi signal is getting its location from).  But without a built-in GPS, SkySafari can’t do it automatically.  I learned this when I bought an iPad for my brother with the intention of using it on his boat.  I had to buy one with a modem.

 

Many Android tablets are the same way – but not all.  I learned the hard way.  After my initial mistake I was able to find a Samsung tablet without modem, but with built-in GPS.  But that was years ago.

 

So if you want to take advantage of SkySafari’s automatic GPS location feature, make sure you buy an iPad with a built-in GPS – which probably means built-in modem too.  You don’t have to activate the iPad with its own cellular account.   But you do have to buy the more expensive version with the cellular modem.

 

Woody

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of thefamily90 Phillips
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 1:41 PM
To: AP-GTO Groups.io <ap-gto@groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Which IPad

 

Having used sky safari pro on my iPhone  for a while I have decided I want a larger screen. Which iPad would you recommend for use with Skye safari?

 

Best,

 

JimP 


Re: Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

Woody Schlom
 

Yes, that’s my understanding also after communicating directly with Wayne at Starlight Instruments.

 

Woody

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of W Hilmo
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 12:56 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

 

I thought that they were all made by Optec, too.  But I was on the phone with George the other day (ordering a focus motor for my new 130 GTX), and he mentioned that Starlight Instruments makes the motors and Optec does the controllers.

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Nagy
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 12:36 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

 

Peter,

 

I believe Optec’s system is called Focuslynx and Starlight Instruments’ system is called Focus Boss.

 

Woody

Exactly same products, just different brandings and they are all made by Optec. Yes I got the model names backward but makes no difference. 

Peter 


Re: Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

Woody Schlom
 

Peter,

 

Actually not quite.  I had a conversation with Wayne Schroeder from Starlight Instruments several months ago where he explained that each company makes their own motors now.  It was originally supposed to be a product partnership between the two companies, but something changed.  And now Optec makes their motors and Starlight Instruments makes their own motors.  They’re almost identical and are interchangeable – but each company makes their own motors.

 

On the other hand, if I understood him correctly, Optec does indeed still make all the controllers – at least the internal electronics and firmware.  Starlight Instruments might make their own metal controller housings.  I’m not clear on that part.  But the systems are interchangeable.

 

Woody

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Nagy
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 12:36 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

 

Peter,

 

I believe Optec’s system is called Focuslynx and Starlight Instruments’ system is called Focus Boss.

 

Woody

Exactly same products, just different brandings and they are all made by Optec. Yes I got the model names backward but makes no difference. 

Peter 


Which IPad

thefamily90 Phillips
 

Having used sky safari pro on my iPhone  for a while I have decided I want a larger screen. Which iPad would you recommend for use with Skye safari?

Best,

JimP 


Re: Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

Peter Nagy
 

Interesting, I didn't know that. 

Peter 


Re: Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

W Hilmo
 

I thought that they were all made by Optec, too.  But I was on the phone with George the other day (ordering a focus motor for my new 130 GTX), and he mentioned that Starlight Instruments makes the motors and Optec does the controllers.

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Nagy
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 12:36 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

 

Peter,

 

I believe Optec’s system is called Focuslynx and Starlight Instruments’ system is called Focus Boss.

 

Woody

Exactly same products, just different brandings and they are all made by Optec. Yes I got the model names backward but makes no difference. 

Peter 


Re: Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

Peter Nagy
 

Peter,

 

I believe Optec’s system is called Focuslynx and Starlight Instruments’ system is called Focus Boss.

 

Woody

Exactly same products, just different brandings and they are all made by Optec. Yes I got the model names backward but makes no difference. 

Peter


Re: Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

W Hilmo
 

I think that you are right.  I also think that they are the same systems, with just the branding different.

 

As for the question in the title, I use Ethernet to connect to my CP4 for imaging.

 

For visual, I initialize the mount with Luminos on my phone.  This initializes the mount with a very accurate time and location, which makes the daytime polar alignment work better.  To actually use the mount for visual observing, I use Sky Safari on my phone for goto and object information.  For centering and manual slewing, I use the keypad.

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Woody Schlom
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 12:04 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

 

Peter,

 

I believe Optec’s system is called Focuslynx and Starlight Instruments’ system is called Focus Boss.

 

Woody

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Nagy
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 9:12 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

 

I use Ethernet with CP4 and Optec Focus Boss II along with Ethernet 5 port switch. 

https://peternagy.smugmug.com/Telescopes/Current-Equipment/i-BmcNW77/A

Click on left and right arrows for more pictures.

From back to front:

CP4
Optec Focus Boss II
Ethernet 5 port switch 
Pegasus 6 port USB hub

Note blue Ethernet and USB cables inside braided loom at lower left.

Peter 


Re: Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

Woody Schlom
 

Peter,

 

I believe Optec’s system is called Focuslynx and Starlight Instruments’ system is called Focus Boss.

 

Woody

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Nagy
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 9:12 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

 

I use Ethernet with CP4 and Optec Focus Boss II along with Ethernet 5 port switch. 

https://peternagy.smugmug.com/Telescopes/Current-Equipment/i-BmcNW77/A

Click on left and right arrows for more pictures.

From back to front:

CP4
Optec Focus Boss II
Ethernet 5 port switch 
Pegasus 6 port USB hub

Note blue Ethernet and USB cables inside braided loom at lower left.

Peter 


Re: Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

Geof Lewis
 

The serial connection of my AP1200 GTO CP3 is connected to my laptop via an FTDI serial to USB adapter. The USB end is connected to a powered 7 port USB2 hub, which also services the guide and imaging cameras plus a powered Hitec Mount Hub Pro, which in turn runs my Moonlite focuser and 3 dew straps. There is single USB2 cable between the observatory laptop and USB2 hub.
Regards,

Geof


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Sent: 15 March 2021 01:28
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Which GTOCP* connection do you use?
 

A new poll has been created:

I am toying with connecting via ethernet to save a USB space on my control computer.  I have also ordered an FTDI serial adapter to try that out.  Therefore I should only need 1 USB cable to my entire imaging rig.  What are your connections and why?

1. USB
2. Ethernet
3. WiFi
4. RS-232

Vote Now

Do not reply to this message to vote in the poll. You can vote in polls only through the group's website.


Re: Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

Kenneth Tan
 

Thanks! Avoided a disaster 🤪

On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 at 23:42, George <george@...> wrote:

Kenneth,

 

NO…no…no!    Do not even try that.   Your CP5 is personalized to your Mach2.  

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenneth Tan
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 3:35 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

 

Can i use the gtocp4 with my mach2 gto? I was toying with the idea as that will allow me to connect it with the ASI air pro which does not seem as yet to support the gtocp5. 

 

Kenneth 

 

On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 at 16:29, <cargostick@...> wrote:

I should have put keypad as a choice in the poll.


Re: Which GTOCP* connection do you use?

Steven Panish
 

Also CP3 - RS232 to an ancient usb adapter to a USB3 hub.  Everything else (EFW, camera, focuser, guider, etc) also connects to the USB3 hub, and that is the sole connection to my observatory laptop.  The observatory connects to the home network via a wireless bridge.  The laptop is then accessed remotely through Google Remote Console.

Steve


Re: Imaging during EST to DST change over

Michael Freeberg
 

Jack,

If you go into the hand controller it gives you the option of setting it to utc.  I also   
have Dimension 4 installed on my laptop which keeps it synced to a UTC standard.  

Mike

On Mar 15, 2021, at 12:06 PM, Jack Huerkamp <Mallincamusa@...> wrote:

Mike,
 
Right now I have the hand controller set to standard time and the computer likewise.  Rather than go through the procedure to set the hand controller to DST, can I just go into the keypad, set it to UTC, set the computer to UTS, and not have to do anything else?
 
Yours truly,
 
Jack
 
Jack Huerkamp
Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC
38388 Pine Street
Pearl River, LA 70452-5192
985-445-5063
30.37N  89.76W
 
All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.
………………………………….Neil Peart
 
 
 
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Freeberg
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 11:05 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Imaging during EST to DST change over
 
I just set my computer and mount to utc time and forget about the day time change.. Mike
 
On Mar 15, 2021 10:42 AM, "Roland Christen via groups.io" <chris1011@...> wrote:
The mount won't park itself unless it gets a park command from a 3rd party software. A clock change on your PC does not automatically get sent to the mount by itself, so the mount does not know about any time change.
 
Rolando
 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Fakatselis <pashasdad@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 14, 2021 11:25 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Imaging during EST to DST change over

Last night I was imaging with my QSI683 camera through the AP 130EDF on my Mach1GTO and had an unusual thing happen. I was on my last subframe of the evening, at around 2am and suddenly I noticed that the guiding errors grew tremendously.
 
I noticed the guide star was out of the field so I grabbed an additional full frame exposure through the guide camera to see what had happened. A 5 sec exposure showed stars streaking in the field of view, like the tracking was incorrect or even off.
 
After closer inspection I noticed that the mount parked itself at exactly 2:00am when the PC's clock automatically advanced from 2:00am to 3:00am during the EST to DST transition. It wasn't too much of a problem since I was closing down for the night anyway, so I lost the 10 min subframe.
I was wondering why/how the mount automatically parked due to that sudden time shift Any ideas? Anyone else had this happen to them?
 
Jim Fakatselis
Peppermill Skies Observatory
Huntington, NY

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Astro-Physics 
 


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Re: Imaging during EST to DST change over

Jack Huerkamp
 

George,

 

Thanks for the quick response.  I wil go out and set the hand controller and computer accordingly.

 

Yours truly,

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 12:14 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Imaging during EST to DST change over

 

Jack,

 

See:  https://astro-physics.info/tech_support/mounts/keypad/keypad-setting-gmt-utc.pdf

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jack Huerkamp
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Cc: mallincamusa@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Imaging during EST to DST change over

 

Mike,

 

Right now I have the hand controller set to standard time and the computer likewise.  Rather than go through the procedure to set the hand controller to DST, can I just go into the keypad, set it to UTC, set the computer to UTS, and not have to do anything else?

 

Yours truly,

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Freeberg
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 11:05 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Imaging during EST to DST change over

 

I just set my computer and mount to utc time and forget about the day time change.. Mike

 

On Mar 15, 2021 10:42 AM, "Roland Christen via groups.io" <chris1011@...> wrote:

The mount won't park itself unless it gets a park command from a 3rd party software. A clock change on your PC does not automatically get sent to the mount by itself, so the mount does not know about any time change.

 

Rolando

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Fakatselis <pashasdad@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 14, 2021 11:25 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Imaging during EST to DST change over

Last night I was imaging with my QSI683 camera through the AP 130EDF on my Mach1GTO and had an unusual thing happen. I was on my last subframe of the evening, at around 2am and suddenly I noticed that the guiding errors grew tremendously.

 

I noticed the guide star was out of the field so I grabbed an additional full frame exposure through the guide camera to see what had happened. A 5 sec exposure showed stars streaking in the field of view, like the tracking was incorrect or even off.

 

After closer inspection I noticed that the mount parked itself at exactly 2:00am when the PC's clock automatically advanced from 2:00am to 3:00am during the EST to DST transition. It wasn't too much of a problem since I was closing down for the night anyway, so I lost the 10 min subframe.

I was wondering why/how the mount automatically parked due to that sudden time shift Any ideas? Anyone else had this happen to them?

 

Jim Fakatselis

Peppermill Skies Observatory

Huntington, NY


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics

 

 

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