Re: DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO
Luca Marinelli
Thanks a lot for the quick reply, Roland. I am pretty sure I mounted the dovetail with the arrow pointing forward. The USB and power port are in the back of the scope, not on the side. See the attached picture.
Also, both N and S movements result in motor stalls, not just in one direction.
Thanks again,
Luca
On Dec 26, 2020, at 8:01 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:
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Re: DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO
Roland Christen
It sounds like you are hitting the internal hard limit. You probably have the scope mounted at 90 degrees from the arrow on the top of the Dec mounting plate. Remove your scope and dovetail and look at the mounting plate. You will se a long arrow. This is the direction that your scope must point. You cannot mount it at 90 degrees or you simply run out of Dec motion when pointing south and the axis will hit the hard stop and the motors will stall with yellow light coming on.
Can you post a picture showing the scope pointing at the north pole?
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics Inc.
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From: Luca Marinelli <photo@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2020 6:16 pm Subject: [ap-gto] DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO Today I replaced the Mach1 in the observatory with the new Mach2 I received a few days ago. I have a Tak FSQ106 mounted on the Mach2 and it balanced without any problems. I tested a slew and everything worked fine. I then started to set up the Meridian limit in APCC Pro and after sending the scope to the Southern horizon (-15 degrees DEC) I started experiencing motor stalls. The mount makes a whirring/grinding noise when trying to slew in DEC and APCC communication window shows motor stall condition. The light on the CP5 turns amber. I measured the voltage out of the power supply and it is correct (24.94V). I also replaced the power supply with the power supply i used with the Mach1 and the same thing happened. To test the motor cable, I swapped DEC and RA cables and the fault was still on the DEC axis. I removed the telescope and tried slewing the empty mount in DEC, to no avail (motor stalls).
APCC Pro version: 1.8.8.11 CP5 firmware: VCP5-P02-08 Encoder version: A02-08 Is there anything obvious I am missing? thanks, Luca -- Roland Christen Astro-Physics
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DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO
Luca Marinelli
Today I replaced the Mach1 in the observatory with the new Mach2 I received a few days ago. I have a Tak FSQ106 mounted on the Mach2 and it balanced without any problems. I tested a slew and everything worked fine. I then started to set up the Meridian limit in APCC Pro and after sending the scope to the Southern horizon (-15 degrees DEC) I started experiencing motor stalls. The mount makes a whirring/grinding noise when trying to slew in DEC and APCC communication window shows motor stall condition. The light on the CP5 turns amber. I measured the voltage out of the power supply and it is correct (24.94V). I also replaced the power supply with the power supply i used with the Mach1 and the same thing happened. To test the motor cable, I swapped DEC and RA cables and the fault was still on the DEC axis. I removed the telescope and tried slewing the empty mount in DEC, to no avail (motor stalls).
APCC Pro version: 1.8.8.11 CP5 firmware: VCP5-P02-08 Encoder version: A02-08 Is there anything obvious I am missing? thanks, Luca
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Re: Initial GoTo In APCC Pro Cause Nose or Tail Dive
John,
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I see you have pointing correction enabled, and the tracking rate is extremely high, meaning you probably have a bad model. So, try turning off tracking-rate and pointing correction on APCC's Pointing Model tab. -Ray Gralak Author of PEMPro Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
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Re: Initial GoTo In APCC Pro Cause Nose or Tail Dive
John
Aloha Ray,
I just sent you the screen shots via email. Once I slew more than 10 degrees (in either direction), stop the slew, the DEC reads 00 00 00. While slewing and holding down the left mouse button, I can see the DEC coordinates actually slewing/changing. But after stopping the slew, the DEC coordinates revert to 00 00 00 Kind of strange... After pressing the 'find home' button, the DEC displays the coordinates correctly (after the slew stops) and like what you're seeing in your screen shot Hope the screen shots help, thanks! John
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Re: Mach2GTO first light
#Mach2GTO
Thanks Karen.
I just uploaded The finish imaging to the gallery section. Was able to add SII. So now it is a completed hubble color palette. https://ap-ug.groups.io/g/main/photo/258611/0?p=Created,,,20,2,0,0
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Re: Initial GoTo In APCC Pro Cause Nose or Tail Dive
John,
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I just tried unparking from Park 3 and using the move buttons to move more than 10 degrees from (Park 3 dec = +89 59 59) See attached image. -Ray Gralak Author of PEMPro Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
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Re: Initial GoTo In APCC Pro Cause Nose or Tail Dive
John
Aloha Ray,
ok, I'll get some screen shots sent over to you. I'll just put them all in a MS Word doc. I was connecting to it again today, but it's still doing the same thing. The only thing new (that I noticed) was that the DEC coordinates displayed correctly whenever the dec was within 10 degrees of Park 3. In other words, once you slew more than 10 degree in DEC, release the mouse button, then the dec readout indicates 00 00 00. I was looking in the APCC PRO user guide to see if I could initialize the mount again (after sending it home), but they may not be an option Thanks! John
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Re: Initial GoTo In APCC Pro Cause Nose or Tail Dive
Hi John,
After connecting to the mount via apcc only (no keypad connected) and unparking, I tried some 'manual' slews, usingI finally had a chance to go through your logs, and unfortunately, I cannot find any indication of the behavior you were seeing. How about trying this again and taking a screenshot of what you are seeing (Dec=00 00 00)? -Ray Gralak Author of PEMPro Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver -----Original Message-----
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Re: Mach2GTO first light
#Mach2GTO
John
Nice tight stars!
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Need width and thread size of threaded top end if 1.875” counterweight shafts
Mark Dearing
I Need the width and thread size of threaded top end of 1.875” counterweight shafts.
Thanks in advance, Mark
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Re: Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights
Roland sets up something similar during the indoor final testing phase for each Mach2GTO. It is a bit of a chore, but has deepened his understanding of this mount.
Clear Skies,
Marj Christen Astro-Physics, Inc 11250 Forest Hills Rd Machesney Park, IL 61115 Phone: 815-282-1513 Fax: 815-282-9847 www.astro-physics.com
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Don Anderson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 11:45 PM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights
Wow! Just setting it up must have been quite a chore. I suppose you have to wash dishes for a week after taking this picture. Merry Christmas to you and Marg and the rest of the crew at AP. Regards
Don Anderson
On Thursday, December 24, 2020, 05:04:19 p.m. MST, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:
Well, I couldn't resist. Here's a pix of the setup with the caveat of WHAT NOT TO DO!
It's a 155EDF on top of a 160EDF, each has CCD cameras and Quad TCC hand grenades. The two scopes weigh ... I don't really know. The goodie bag on the end of the
counterweight shaft holds another 10lb weight because I ran out of shaft length. Total cwt = 3x 14lb plus 5x 10lb plus 1x 5lb. (yes it tracks and slews just fine, but a bit boingy if you bang on it).
Do Not try this at home upon pain of death from Marj!!! (my death mostly)
Rolando
-----Original Message----- Marj has forbidden me from taking a pix of this setup! Upon pain of death and worse.
Rolando
-----Original Message----- On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 12:32 PM, Roland Christen wrote: Right now I have my Mach2 loaded with two 6" refractors, one on top the other, and all the heavy camera gear and counterweights galore, which is in the no-no zone.
Just to make sure that these kinds of loads work in a stable and accurate manner (and because I like to do crazy stuff)
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Re: Meridian Flip Feature Yet?
Roland Christen
Press +- and then 9 and you will see the meridian features.
Rolando
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From: ray.palmer@... To: main@ap-gto.groups.io Sent: Fri, Dec 25, 2020 12:02 am Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Meridian Flip Feature Yet? Thank you Bill / Rolando.
Rolando I downloaded and installed the latest version of the keypad software (4.19.3), but I cannot see the meridian flip feature. How do you perform or access the feature please? -- Raymond D Palmer Astronomer Western Australia www.MyAstroSpace.com www.TheCosmicArtGallery.com -- Roland Christen Astro-Physics
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Re: Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights
Roland Christen
Ok, we'll get back to you and take a look at your mount.
Rolando
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From: deonb <deonb@...> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 9:39 pm Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights Thanks Roland,
I sent the mount info in email. The direction of oscillation is RA. -- Roland Christen Astro-Physics
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Re: Merry Christmas from Charlie & little MOOSE
Worsel
They look like they did more than just try. I hope they got what the each wanted for Christmas. They deserved it!
Bryan
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Re: Triple Piggy Back Works!
I am very careful about checking balance and recheck it when I change cameras. I think it is right on. I also remove the somewhat heavy scope front cover from the Planewave even if it is not the scope in use.
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Re: Mach2GTO first light
#Mach2GTO
Lee Dodge
Nice picture!
Lee
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Re: [ap-ug] Merry Christmas from Charlie & little MOOSE
thefamily90 Phillips
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Harley Davidson <astrocnc@...>
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 8:09:32 AM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] [ap-ug] Merry Christmas from Charlie & little MOOSE They both got Astro-Physics equipment Pete :)
tony On 12/25/2020 7:42 AM, Pete Lardizabal wrote:
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Re: [ap-ug] Merry Christmas from Charlie & little MOOSE
Harley Davidson
They both got Astro-Physics equipment Pete :)
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tony
On 12/25/2020 7:42 AM, Pete Lardizabal
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Re: Merry Christmas from Charlie & little MOOSE
thefamily90 Phillips
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Harley Davidson <astrocnc@...>
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 6:00:15 AM To: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io> Cc: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Subject: [ap-gto] Merry Christmas from Charlie & little MOOSE
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