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Re: APCC v1.9 and one-year renewal subscriptions #APCC

Roland Christen
 


As I understand it, AE mounts require APCC Pro
AE mounts do not require APCC Pro to operate.
(APCC Pro will also operate non-encoder mounts.)

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew J <andjones132@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Aug 18, 2021 9:58 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC v1.9 and one-year renewal subscriptions #APCC

Hi Marj.

I just paid Astro-Physics $20K for a new AP AEL mount and required accessories. Now I learn that over the next 20 years I am going to be nickel and dimed for the software I need to run it. This is on top of the recent price increase for the mount itself. While I hear you say that the mount will continue to operate using the current version of APCC Pro, will that still be the case 5, 10 or 15 years from now? If APCC Pro breaks due to changes to the Windows operating system or due to updates to other 3rd party software I use with mount, are these considered “bugs” or “enhancements”?
 
As I understand it, AE mounts require APCC Pro so if we purchased a mount with encoders we are locked into paying the higher $100 vs. $50 annual maintenance fees. This would appear to penalize those of us that purchased AE mounts.
 
While I can appreciate the need to secure future revenue streams to “pay” for future enhancements, I think this is a little disingenuous to suggest that current and past customers should pay for these enhancements. Looking over the changes to APCC over the last 5 years, I am not seen anything that would justify a $100 annual maintenance fee. Other than the couple of changes announced yesterday what other “enhancements” would we have needed to pay for over the last 5 years under the new Software as a Service (SaaS) model?
 
I don’t mind paying up for the Astro-Physics telescopes, mounts and accessories as I think the quality and support is industry leading. What I didn’t expect from a company like Astro-Physics is to learn after purchasing a mount that I need to pay an annual fee just to keep it up-to-date. I think of Astro-Physics as the “Apple” of the astronomy equipment manufactures. I have had Apple products for many years and I don’t ever remember having to pay a maintenance fee to update my devices to the latest version that included both bug fixes and enhancements. I am just a bit disappointed that AP would be adopting this SaaS model that seems to be taking the industry by storm.
 
A Jones

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: APCC v1.9 and one-year renewal subscriptions #APCC

Jeffc
 



On Aug 18, 2021, at 7:58 AM, Andrew J <andjones132@...> wrote:

I think of Astro-Physics as the “Apple” of the astronomy equipment manufactures. I have had Apple products for many years and I don’t ever remember having to pay a maintenance fee to update my devices to the latest version that included both bug fixes and enhancements.

I’m not so sure you get “enhancements” in perpetuity… at best I suspect you’re getting security fixes for your older apple hardware.  

In the case of Apple … they seem to have a different strategy… the OS upgrade is free, but is NOT available for your older $3000 computer.
If you want the upgrade, you will need to buy a new computer.  
(Of course there are technical and support scaling reasons for not offering the upgrade on older machines, but the community implements workarounds for the installer… so in theory the new OS works on older machines. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )

While there are some “usability” and “support”  traits similar between AP and Apple (eg “it just works”) , the revenue streams are likely quite different.   
 
Ie it’s not an “apples to apples” comparison! B^) 

On the point of the AP “subscription”…
I feel like the “subscription” here is more like an upgrade fee, but a better implementation.  Totally reasonable.  Time to move on. 

(I suspect we as consumers are soured by the “subscription per seat” term, and model, which is more like a “rent” or “lease” model where the features die if not renewed — I dunno why others like MS didn’t call it as it is — maybe psychological, or maybe legal reasons.  Instead, consumers are confused and we seem to have an automatic reaction to the  “software subscription” term.   Imo it could be worse.   Eg lots of software requires full price to get the new version.)

I was hesitant to post this.  Hopefully we can move on from the “subscription is bad” debate. 


Re: APCC v1.9 and one-year renewal subscriptions #APCC

ap@CaptivePhotons.com
 

  • I think of Astro-Physics as the “Apple” of the astronomy equipment manufactures. I have had Apple products for many years and I don’t ever remember having to pay a maintenance fee to update my devices to the latest version that included both bug fixes and enhancements. I am just a bit disappointed that AP would be adopting this SaaS model that seems to be taking the industry by storm.

 

I stopped using Apple years ago, but correct me if I’m wrong.  Apple only provides updates for a period of time, and afterwards you have to buy a new phone to keep using it with current iTunes, app store, getting security updates, etc.

 

So while those updates are free, their solution is to ensure you throw your old phone away and have to buy a new one.

 

Thank goodness Astro-Physics isn’t the Apple of mounts, I’d really like to keep this more than 3-4 years you can keep an iPhone going.  😊

 

My impression is that Ray intends to keep issuing bug fixes forever, free.  Forever is a long time, but laudable intent.

 

Just to offer a counterpoint, I’m happy to pay the $100/year just to further encourage development and pay for all the free support I probably will need over the years.  It’s barely a rounding error really in the investment in the mount.   

 

And for the record (and from someone in the industry): It is NOT a SaaS model.  If it were, when you don’t pay, it just stops.

 

 


Re: APCC v1.9 and one-year renewal subscriptions #APCC

Dean Jacobsen
 

On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 07:16 PM, Ray Gralak wrote:
The Eltima driver was updated twice, once at 1.5.0.6 and again at 1.9.0.0/1.

You only need to uninstall/reinstall APCC if the Eltima driver version changes, but if you don't it is not the end of the world. The new version might not get installed but the older version will still work.

So here are the version changes that you should uninstall the old version and install the new version (no settings or license will be lost):

1.5.0.5 and earlier => any later version.
1.5.0.6 through 1.8.8.17 => 1.9.0.0 and later.

-Ray
Ray, et all,

I am running v1.8.8.17.  So, it looks like I am going to have to do an uninstall and re-install for v1.9.0.1.

What is the safest way to uninstall and preserve all of my settings, the "Apps and features" page in settings or the old Control Panel -> Programs and Features page... or does it matter?

I have a stable, well running software stack now.  I would sure hate to inadvertently break things while uninstalling and installing the new version.
 
--
Dean Jacobsen
Astrobin Image Gallery - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/


Re: APCC v1.9 and one-year renewal subscriptions #APCC

Andrew J
 

Hi Marj.

I just paid Astro-Physics $20K for a new AP AEL mount and required accessories. Now I learn that over the next 20 years I am going to be nickel and dimed for the software I need to run it. This is on top of the recent price increase for the mount itself. While I hear you say that the mount will continue to operate using the current version of APCC Pro, will that still be the case 5, 10 or 15 years from now? If APCC Pro breaks due to changes to the Windows operating system or due to updates to other 3rd party software I use with mount, are these considered “bugs” or “enhancements”?

 

As I understand it, AE mounts require APCC Pro so if we purchased a mount with encoders we are locked into paying the higher $100 vs. $50 annual maintenance fees. This would appear to penalize those of us that purchased AE mounts.

 

While I can appreciate the need to secure future revenue streams to “pay” for future enhancements, I think this is a little disingenuous to suggest that current and past customers should pay for these enhancements. Looking over the changes to APCC over the last 5 years, I am not seen anything that would justify a $100 annual maintenance fee. Other than the couple of changes announced yesterday what other “enhancements” would we have needed to pay for over the last 5 years under the new Software as a Service (SaaS) model?

 

I don’t mind paying up for the Astro-Physics telescopes, mounts and accessories as I think the quality and support is industry leading. What I didn’t expect from a company like Astro-Physics is to learn after purchasing a mount that I need to pay an annual fee just to keep it up-to-date. I think of Astro-Physics as the “Apple” of the astronomy equipment manufactures. I have had Apple products for many years and I don’t ever remember having to pay a maintenance fee to update my devices to the latest version that included both bug fixes and enhancements. I am just a bit disappointed that AP would be adopting this SaaS model that seems to be taking the industry by storm.

 

A Jones


Re: #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails #APCC

ap@CaptivePhotons.com
 

I did some more investigation with morning eyes, and I think there is some sequence of events that gets the Image Link Test to not work.

 

I specifically did this:

 

  • Set NINA to use a simulator (it’s daylight) and started a model run
  • After 5 points (#2 failed to solve, not surprising for survey images I think), I aborted the run
  • APPM was set to save images
  • I went to the Plate Solve settings, hit Image Link Test
  • Selected the last image (which had just solved)
  • Header came up, I hit plate solve:

 

“The file could not be opened or error processing file: Object reference not set to an instance of an object”.

 

  • At this point no image could be solved from that button.  I tried images that earlier worked fine with that button in the same fashion.

 

The APPM log, if I am interpreting it correctly, looks like the plate solve ran and succeeded.  I see no sign of this error in the log, only the screen.  Ray, if it’s useful to you and you think worth pursuing, today’s logs are:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n9EfsZT6AuIlUHCWBx0lmJcx0ZnQ1H7j/view?usp=sharing

 

The longer log is the one that failed (though there is no sign there of failure I see, only on the screen).  The next in time was me starting APPM again, not even connecting, and using image link test and having it work.  The third is just empty, not sure how that snuck in.

 

This does NOT seem to affect running the model – I’ve run through several partial ones and it runs fine, solves fine (+/- quality of the survey images that are simulating).  It runs fine even after this error appears.  I do not know if this error is triggered specific to NINA, something about the simulated images, or just from the (partial aborted?) model run, but it is repeatable as above.

 

But I think there’s some state of the internal objects that is getting corrupted that breaks the image link test button.  It does NOT break the plate solve button on the RUN screen.  It’s just this image link test button.

 

It’s a small nit I mention in case helpful, it certainly doesn’t get in the way of using this.  Everything I’ve tried worked fine, except some no-solve images which I can’t solve manually either, so not relevant.

 

Now if I could just get a clear sky to try it for real.

 

Thank you for a giant step forward for both NINA users, and those with ‘too much resolution’ cameras!

 

Linwood


Re: APCC v1.9 and one-year renewal subscriptions #APCC

Michael 'Mikey' Mangieri
 

Yep, that’s the way I see it!  Considering the amount of money I put into my rig (5 figures), that’s a small amount to get such great new capability – and for as long as I want it.

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of George LaBelle
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 10:39 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC v1.9 and one-year renewal subscriptions #APCC

 

W Hilmo

I don't understand your concern. You bought APCC with certain features. Apparently you were happy with what you got. It is yours forever.
You even get bug fixes for free, forever, if I understand correctly.

Now, a software engineer (I was one once, also) wrote new modules/features that you can, at your discretion, for $100.00.

Don't think of it as a subscription, because it really isn't. It's new software that you can purchase.
--
George
Prineville, Oregon


Re: APCC v1.9 and one-year renewal subscriptions #APCC

George LaBelle
 

W Hilmo

I don't understand your concern. You bought APCC with certain features. Apparently you were happy with what you got. It is yours forever.
You even get bug fixes for free, forever, if I understand correctly.

Now, a software engineer (I was one once, also) wrote new modules/features that you can, at your discretion, for $100.00.

Don't think of it as a subscription, because it really isn't. It's new software that you can purchase.
--
George
Prineville, Oregon


Re: APCC v1.9 and one-year renewal subscriptions #APCC

George
 

Clif,

You need to have the "V2" chip in the CP3.

Regards,

George

George Whitney
Astro-Physics, Inc.
Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)
Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)
Email:  george@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arnold C. Ashcraft
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 9:20 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC v1.9 and one-year renewal subscriptions

Anyone know if this software works with an older AP1100 that still has a CP3 on it?
Clif Ashcraft


Re: APCC v1.9 and one-year renewal subscriptions #APCC

Arnold C. Ashcraft
 

Anyone know if this software works with an older AP1100 that still has a CP3 on it?
Clif Ashcraft


Re: APCC v1.9 and one-year renewal subscriptions #APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Mike,

 

The new features will be available if your license date is 8/1/2020 or later. You can check that in this APCC menu: Help->View/Update License Subscription.

 

The reason for uninstalling the old version then installing the new version is to ensure that the new  version 9 of the Elitima Virtual Port COM driver is installed.

 

To check that it is installed:

 

1)    Start APCC so that it creates a couple of virtual ports.

2)    Open Device Manager and click on “Ports (COM and LPT)” to show available ports.

3)    Right-Mouse click one of the ELTIMA Virtual Serial ports and select “Properties”.

4)    In the properties window, check the driver version on the “Driver” tab.

5)    The version should be 9.0.369.0 or later. If not, you should uninstall/reinstall 1.9.0.x.

 

See this screenshot:

 

 

-Ray

 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of M Hambrick

> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 6:21 AM

> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC v1.9 and one-year renewal subscriptions #APCC

>

> I have been running APCC Pro version 1.8.8.17 but I installed the new new subscription version 1.9.0.1 without

> first uninstalling the older version. Is there a way to tell if any of the features on the new version did not get

> updated ?

>

> Mike


Re: APCC v1.9 and one-year renewal subscriptions #APCC

M Hambrick
 

I have been running APCC Pro version 1.8.8.17 but I installed the new new subscription version 1.9.0.1 without first uninstalling the older version. Is there a way to tell if any of the features on the new version did not get updated ?

Mike


Re: Ugghhh cross threaded CW shaft into CW shaft adapter with metal threaded sleeve

 

Chris,
Thanks for the detailed description of the interaction of threaded metal components, and lubricants.

I’m curious on what your thoughts and experiences are with silicone lubricants.

Thanks,
Steve H


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On Aug 17, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...> wrote:


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-Christopher Erickson
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Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, Hawaii


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On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 4:02 AM Klwalsh2061 <kevin.walsh@...> wrote:

Odd size nuts? Maybe so. 

Try McMaster-Carr. They carry an extremely wide selection of hardware, including large SAE and Metric nuts and bolts. 


Re: #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails #APCC

Sébastien Doré
 

Can you please share the FIT file? 

Yes, will do tomorrow.

Sébastien


Re: #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails #APCC

Sébastien Doré
 

Does the RUN work, or the Plate Solve button on the RUN tab work?   I think this is something with that specific button.
Can't say for the RUN button, clouds are in and everything sits disassembled in my living room right now. I'll test further as soon as I get a chance. I myself was waiting that specific feature to be released to start doing modeling. 

That's good news if the real thing works well ! (Hopefuly, Bill will tell us soon enough...😉)

Sébastien


Re: #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails #APCC

Bill Long
 

The model runtime was only a few minutes faster on a MiniPC, but I should be clear that I still use SkyX for the camera control. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Long <bill@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:44 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails
 
In fact the APCC software overall feels snappier and more responsive than before. APPM is slinging the Mach 2 around (with the same monster load on it) like nothing.  ASTAP finishes a solve and APPM immediately consumes that data and moves to the next point. Before, there was a lag when Image Link would finish it solve and when APPM would realize that, now that seems to be gone (at least with ASTAP).

The model is cooking along at a very fast clip. Will report back on its total time (was 50 mins before, give or take 1) but this seems way better, and I have been building models and giving feedback now for about 4 years. 

TL:DR;  Sehr gut.



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Long <bill@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails
 
Switching to ASTAP was literally changing the drop down for me.  I changed nothing else.

Nice job Ray! :)  



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Long <bill@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:20 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails
 
Can you please share the FIT file? 

I am about to do a full APMM model run here in a moment. Will reply back with the results. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Seb@stro <sebastiendore1@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 9:03 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails
 
Hi,

Just tried the new platesolving feature with APPM/ASTAP (using the "Image Link Test" button in APPM) and it always results in failed attemps (near or blind)... Tried several Fits file and it always ends up the same (failed after a few seconds wait). If I open up the same files directly in ASTAP, they platesolve in less than a second... I double checked that coordinates, camera angle and image scale were correctly retrieved from the Fits header and tried increasing the radius search field to 360 deg... no luck. I also set all the settings to 0 (to use the default from ASTAP) and again, it failed. 

Not sure what else I could try. I should add ASTAP platesolve works correctly in other third party app (NINA, APT).

APPM log file shows the platesolve actually succeeded but ends with an exception saying "user clicked cancel or close" which I didn't in all cases. See log extract below. I can provide a link to some subs I tried if it helps and/or the full log file. 

Unfortunately, I can't test the real run under the stars as the sky's clouded, obviously...

Sébastien

LOG EXTRACT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[...]
0000312 2021-08-17 22:33:32.048:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Init
0000313 2021-08-17 22:33:32.048:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, File = C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-03_00-52-03__-5.00_300.00s_0044.fits
0000314 2021-08-17 22:33:32.048:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, RA/Dec = 21.128075 / 68.1509722222222
0000315 2021-08-17 22:33:32.049:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Use FITS for Hints = True, X/Y Scale = 1.46460355029586 / 1.46460355029586
0000316 2021-08-17 22:33:32.049:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, AllSky = False
0000317 2021-08-17 22:33:32.049:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Timeout = 30
0000318 2021-08-17 22:33:32.053:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Solve() called.
0000319 2021-08-17 22:33:32.053:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: application path: c:/program files/astap/astap.exe
0000320 2021-08-17 22:33:32.053:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: arguments: -f "C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-03_00-52-03__-5.00_300.00s_0044.fits" -ra 21.128075 -spd 158.150972222222 -fov 1.49389562130178 -s 1000 -r 10
0000321 2021-08-17 22:33:32.100:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000322 2021-08-17 22:33:32.304:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000323 2021-08-17 22:33:32.508:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000324 2021-08-17 22:33:32.711:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000325 2021-08-17 22:33:32.914:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000326 2021-08-17 22:33:33.117:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000327 2021-08-17 22:33:33.320:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000328 2021-08-17 22:33:33.523:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000329 2021-08-17 22:33:33.726:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000330 2021-08-17 22:33:33.929:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000331 2021-08-17 22:33:34.137:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000332 2021-08-17 22:33:34.351:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000333 2021-08-17 22:33:34.555:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000334 2021-08-17 22:33:34.555:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Solve Successful
0000335 2021-08-17 22:33:34.569:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Closing.
0000336 2021-08-17 22:33:39.376:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, CancelAsync: process has already exited.
0000337 2021-08-17 22:33:39.376:  Exception,   Plate Solving, User Clicked Cancel Or Close
0000338 2021-08-17 23:29:39.758:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Init
0000339 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, File = C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_23-15-54__-5.00_300.00s_0026.fits
0000340 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, RA/Dec = 21.128075 / 68.1509694444445
0000341 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Use FITS for Hints = True, X/Y Scale = 1.46460355029586 / 1.46460355029586
0000342 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, AllSky = False
0000343 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Timeout = 30
0000344 2021-08-17 23:29:39.764:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Solve() called.
0000345 2021-08-17 23:29:39.765:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: application path: c:/program files/astap/astap.exe
0000346 2021-08-17 23:29:39.765:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: arguments: -f "C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_23-15-54__-5.00_300.00s_0026.fits" -ra 21.128075 -spd 158.150969444444 -fov 1.49389562130178 -s 1000 -r 10
0000347 2021-08-17 23:29:39.994:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000348 2021-08-17 23:29:40.211:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000349 2021-08-17 23:29:40.414:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000350 2021-08-17 23:29:40.617:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000351 2021-08-17 23:29:40.820:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000352 2021-08-17 23:29:41.023:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000353 2021-08-17 23:29:41.226:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000354 2021-08-17 23:29:41.430:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000355 2021-08-17 23:29:41.632:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000356 2021-08-17 23:29:41.836:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000357 2021-08-17 23:29:42.039:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000358 2021-08-17 23:29:42.242:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000359 2021-08-17 23:29:42.446:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000360 2021-08-17 23:29:42.446:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Solve Successful
0000361 2021-08-17 23:29:42.461:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Closing.
0000362 2021-08-17 23:29:47.599:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, CancelAsync: process has already exited.
0000363 2021-08-17 23:29:47.599:  Exception,   Plate Solving, User Clicked Cancel Or Close
0000364 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Init
0000365 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, File = C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_22-42-54__-5.00_300.00s_0020.fits
0000366 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, RA/Dec = 21.128075 / 68.1509666666667
0000367 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Use FITS for Hints = True, X/Y Scale = 1.46460355029586 / 1.46460355029586
0000368 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, AllSky = False
0000369 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Timeout = 30
0000370 2021-08-17 23:32:38.294:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Solve() called.
0000371 2021-08-17 23:32:38.294:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: application path: c:/program files/astap/astap.exe
0000372 2021-08-17 23:32:38.295:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: arguments: -f "C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_22-42-54__-5.00_300.00s_0020.fits" -ra 21.128075 -spd 158.150966666667 -fov 1.49389562130178 -s 1000 -r 10
0000373 2021-08-17 23:32:38.342:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000374 2021-08-17 23:32:38.554:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000375 2021-08-17 23:32:38.758:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000376 2021-08-17 23:32:38.961:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000377 2021-08-17 23:32:39.164:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000378 2021-08-17 23:32:39.367:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000379 2021-08-17 23:32:39.570:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000380 2021-08-17 23:32:39.773:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000381 2021-08-17 23:32:39.976:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000382 2021-08-17 23:32:40.179:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000383 2021-08-17 23:32:40.389:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000384 2021-08-17 23:32:40.601:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000385 2021-08-17 23:32:40.805:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000386 2021-08-17 23:32:40.805:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Solve Successful
0000387 2021-08-17 23:32:40.821:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Closing.
0000388 2021-08-17 23:32:50.988:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, CancelAsync: process has already exited.
0000389 2021-08-17 23:32:50.989:  Exception,   Plate Solving, User Clicked Cancel Or Close


Re: #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails #APCC

Bill Long
 

In fact the APCC software overall feels snappier and more responsive than before. APPM is slinging the Mach 2 around (with the same monster load on it) like nothing.  ASTAP finishes a solve and APPM immediately consumes that data and moves to the next point. Before, there was a lag when Image Link would finish it solve and when APPM would realize that, now that seems to be gone (at least with ASTAP).

The model is cooking along at a very fast clip. Will report back on its total time (was 50 mins before, give or take 1) but this seems way better, and I have been building models and giving feedback now for about 4 years. 

TL:DR;  Sehr gut.



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Long <bill@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails
 
Switching to ASTAP was literally changing the drop down for me.  I changed nothing else.

Nice job Ray! :)  



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Long <bill@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:20 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails
 
Can you please share the FIT file? 

I am about to do a full APMM model run here in a moment. Will reply back with the results. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Seb@stro <sebastiendore1@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 9:03 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails
 
Hi,

Just tried the new platesolving feature with APPM/ASTAP (using the "Image Link Test" button in APPM) and it always results in failed attemps (near or blind)... Tried several Fits file and it always ends up the same (failed after a few seconds wait). If I open up the same files directly in ASTAP, they platesolve in less than a second... I double checked that coordinates, camera angle and image scale were correctly retrieved from the Fits header and tried increasing the radius search field to 360 deg... no luck. I also set all the settings to 0 (to use the default from ASTAP) and again, it failed. 

Not sure what else I could try. I should add ASTAP platesolve works correctly in other third party app (NINA, APT).

APPM log file shows the platesolve actually succeeded but ends with an exception saying "user clicked cancel or close" which I didn't in all cases. See log extract below. I can provide a link to some subs I tried if it helps and/or the full log file. 

Unfortunately, I can't test the real run under the stars as the sky's clouded, obviously...

Sébastien

LOG EXTRACT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[...]
0000312 2021-08-17 22:33:32.048:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Init
0000313 2021-08-17 22:33:32.048:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, File = C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-03_00-52-03__-5.00_300.00s_0044.fits
0000314 2021-08-17 22:33:32.048:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, RA/Dec = 21.128075 / 68.1509722222222
0000315 2021-08-17 22:33:32.049:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Use FITS for Hints = True, X/Y Scale = 1.46460355029586 / 1.46460355029586
0000316 2021-08-17 22:33:32.049:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, AllSky = False
0000317 2021-08-17 22:33:32.049:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Timeout = 30
0000318 2021-08-17 22:33:32.053:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Solve() called.
0000319 2021-08-17 22:33:32.053:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: application path: c:/program files/astap/astap.exe
0000320 2021-08-17 22:33:32.053:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: arguments: -f "C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-03_00-52-03__-5.00_300.00s_0044.fits" -ra 21.128075 -spd 158.150972222222 -fov 1.49389562130178 -s 1000 -r 10
0000321 2021-08-17 22:33:32.100:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000322 2021-08-17 22:33:32.304:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000323 2021-08-17 22:33:32.508:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000324 2021-08-17 22:33:32.711:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000325 2021-08-17 22:33:32.914:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000326 2021-08-17 22:33:33.117:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000327 2021-08-17 22:33:33.320:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000328 2021-08-17 22:33:33.523:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000329 2021-08-17 22:33:33.726:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000330 2021-08-17 22:33:33.929:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000331 2021-08-17 22:33:34.137:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000332 2021-08-17 22:33:34.351:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000333 2021-08-17 22:33:34.555:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000334 2021-08-17 22:33:34.555:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Solve Successful
0000335 2021-08-17 22:33:34.569:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Closing.
0000336 2021-08-17 22:33:39.376:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, CancelAsync: process has already exited.
0000337 2021-08-17 22:33:39.376:  Exception,   Plate Solving, User Clicked Cancel Or Close
0000338 2021-08-17 23:29:39.758:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Init
0000339 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, File = C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_23-15-54__-5.00_300.00s_0026.fits
0000340 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, RA/Dec = 21.128075 / 68.1509694444445
0000341 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Use FITS for Hints = True, X/Y Scale = 1.46460355029586 / 1.46460355029586
0000342 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, AllSky = False
0000343 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Timeout = 30
0000344 2021-08-17 23:29:39.764:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Solve() called.
0000345 2021-08-17 23:29:39.765:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: application path: c:/program files/astap/astap.exe
0000346 2021-08-17 23:29:39.765:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: arguments: -f "C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_23-15-54__-5.00_300.00s_0026.fits" -ra 21.128075 -spd 158.150969444444 -fov 1.49389562130178 -s 1000 -r 10
0000347 2021-08-17 23:29:39.994:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000348 2021-08-17 23:29:40.211:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000349 2021-08-17 23:29:40.414:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000350 2021-08-17 23:29:40.617:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000351 2021-08-17 23:29:40.820:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000352 2021-08-17 23:29:41.023:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000353 2021-08-17 23:29:41.226:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000354 2021-08-17 23:29:41.430:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000355 2021-08-17 23:29:41.632:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000356 2021-08-17 23:29:41.836:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000357 2021-08-17 23:29:42.039:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000358 2021-08-17 23:29:42.242:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000359 2021-08-17 23:29:42.446:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000360 2021-08-17 23:29:42.446:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Solve Successful
0000361 2021-08-17 23:29:42.461:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Closing.
0000362 2021-08-17 23:29:47.599:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, CancelAsync: process has already exited.
0000363 2021-08-17 23:29:47.599:  Exception,   Plate Solving, User Clicked Cancel Or Close
0000364 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Init
0000365 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, File = C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_22-42-54__-5.00_300.00s_0020.fits
0000366 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, RA/Dec = 21.128075 / 68.1509666666667
0000367 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Use FITS for Hints = True, X/Y Scale = 1.46460355029586 / 1.46460355029586
0000368 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, AllSky = False
0000369 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Timeout = 30
0000370 2021-08-17 23:32:38.294:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Solve() called.
0000371 2021-08-17 23:32:38.294:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: application path: c:/program files/astap/astap.exe
0000372 2021-08-17 23:32:38.295:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: arguments: -f "C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_22-42-54__-5.00_300.00s_0020.fits" -ra 21.128075 -spd 158.150966666667 -fov 1.49389562130178 -s 1000 -r 10
0000373 2021-08-17 23:32:38.342:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000374 2021-08-17 23:32:38.554:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000375 2021-08-17 23:32:38.758:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000376 2021-08-17 23:32:38.961:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000377 2021-08-17 23:32:39.164:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000378 2021-08-17 23:32:39.367:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000379 2021-08-17 23:32:39.570:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000380 2021-08-17 23:32:39.773:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000381 2021-08-17 23:32:39.976:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000382 2021-08-17 23:32:40.179:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000383 2021-08-17 23:32:40.389:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000384 2021-08-17 23:32:40.601:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000385 2021-08-17 23:32:40.805:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000386 2021-08-17 23:32:40.805:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Solve Successful
0000387 2021-08-17 23:32:40.821:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Closing.
0000388 2021-08-17 23:32:50.988:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, CancelAsync: process has already exited.
0000389 2021-08-17 23:32:50.989:  Exception,   Plate Solving, User Clicked Cancel Or Close


Re: #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails #APCC

Bill Long
 

Switching to ASTAP was literally changing the drop down for me.  I changed nothing else.

Nice job Ray! :)  



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Long <bill@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:20 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails
 
Can you please share the FIT file? 

I am about to do a full APMM model run here in a moment. Will reply back with the results. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Seb@stro <sebastiendore1@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 9:03 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails
 
Hi,

Just tried the new platesolving feature with APPM/ASTAP (using the "Image Link Test" button in APPM) and it always results in failed attemps (near or blind)... Tried several Fits file and it always ends up the same (failed after a few seconds wait). If I open up the same files directly in ASTAP, they platesolve in less than a second... I double checked that coordinates, camera angle and image scale were correctly retrieved from the Fits header and tried increasing the radius search field to 360 deg... no luck. I also set all the settings to 0 (to use the default from ASTAP) and again, it failed. 

Not sure what else I could try. I should add ASTAP platesolve works correctly in other third party app (NINA, APT).

APPM log file shows the platesolve actually succeeded but ends with an exception saying "user clicked cancel or close" which I didn't in all cases. See log extract below. I can provide a link to some subs I tried if it helps and/or the full log file. 

Unfortunately, I can't test the real run under the stars as the sky's clouded, obviously...

Sébastien

LOG EXTRACT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[...]
0000312 2021-08-17 22:33:32.048:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Init
0000313 2021-08-17 22:33:32.048:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, File = C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-03_00-52-03__-5.00_300.00s_0044.fits
0000314 2021-08-17 22:33:32.048:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, RA/Dec = 21.128075 / 68.1509722222222
0000315 2021-08-17 22:33:32.049:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Use FITS for Hints = True, X/Y Scale = 1.46460355029586 / 1.46460355029586
0000316 2021-08-17 22:33:32.049:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, AllSky = False
0000317 2021-08-17 22:33:32.049:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Timeout = 30
0000318 2021-08-17 22:33:32.053:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Solve() called.
0000319 2021-08-17 22:33:32.053:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: application path: c:/program files/astap/astap.exe
0000320 2021-08-17 22:33:32.053:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: arguments: -f "C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-03_00-52-03__-5.00_300.00s_0044.fits" -ra 21.128075 -spd 158.150972222222 -fov 1.49389562130178 -s 1000 -r 10
0000321 2021-08-17 22:33:32.100:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000322 2021-08-17 22:33:32.304:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000323 2021-08-17 22:33:32.508:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000324 2021-08-17 22:33:32.711:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000325 2021-08-17 22:33:32.914:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000326 2021-08-17 22:33:33.117:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000327 2021-08-17 22:33:33.320:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000328 2021-08-17 22:33:33.523:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000329 2021-08-17 22:33:33.726:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000330 2021-08-17 22:33:33.929:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000331 2021-08-17 22:33:34.137:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000332 2021-08-17 22:33:34.351:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000333 2021-08-17 22:33:34.555:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000334 2021-08-17 22:33:34.555:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Solve Successful
0000335 2021-08-17 22:33:34.569:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Closing.
0000336 2021-08-17 22:33:39.376:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, CancelAsync: process has already exited.
0000337 2021-08-17 22:33:39.376:  Exception,   Plate Solving, User Clicked Cancel Or Close
0000338 2021-08-17 23:29:39.758:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Init
0000339 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, File = C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_23-15-54__-5.00_300.00s_0026.fits
0000340 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, RA/Dec = 21.128075 / 68.1509694444445
0000341 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Use FITS for Hints = True, X/Y Scale = 1.46460355029586 / 1.46460355029586
0000342 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, AllSky = False
0000343 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Timeout = 30
0000344 2021-08-17 23:29:39.764:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Solve() called.
0000345 2021-08-17 23:29:39.765:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: application path: c:/program files/astap/astap.exe
0000346 2021-08-17 23:29:39.765:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: arguments: -f "C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_23-15-54__-5.00_300.00s_0026.fits" -ra 21.128075 -spd 158.150969444444 -fov 1.49389562130178 -s 1000 -r 10
0000347 2021-08-17 23:29:39.994:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000348 2021-08-17 23:29:40.211:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000349 2021-08-17 23:29:40.414:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000350 2021-08-17 23:29:40.617:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000351 2021-08-17 23:29:40.820:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000352 2021-08-17 23:29:41.023:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000353 2021-08-17 23:29:41.226:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000354 2021-08-17 23:29:41.430:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000355 2021-08-17 23:29:41.632:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000356 2021-08-17 23:29:41.836:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000357 2021-08-17 23:29:42.039:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000358 2021-08-17 23:29:42.242:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000359 2021-08-17 23:29:42.446:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000360 2021-08-17 23:29:42.446:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Solve Successful
0000361 2021-08-17 23:29:42.461:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Closing.
0000362 2021-08-17 23:29:47.599:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, CancelAsync: process has already exited.
0000363 2021-08-17 23:29:47.599:  Exception,   Plate Solving, User Clicked Cancel Or Close
0000364 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Init
0000365 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, File = C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_22-42-54__-5.00_300.00s_0020.fits
0000366 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, RA/Dec = 21.128075 / 68.1509666666667
0000367 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Use FITS for Hints = True, X/Y Scale = 1.46460355029586 / 1.46460355029586
0000368 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, AllSky = False
0000369 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Timeout = 30
0000370 2021-08-17 23:32:38.294:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Solve() called.
0000371 2021-08-17 23:32:38.294:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: application path: c:/program files/astap/astap.exe
0000372 2021-08-17 23:32:38.295:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: arguments: -f "C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_22-42-54__-5.00_300.00s_0020.fits" -ra 21.128075 -spd 158.150966666667 -fov 1.49389562130178 -s 1000 -r 10
0000373 2021-08-17 23:32:38.342:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000374 2021-08-17 23:32:38.554:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000375 2021-08-17 23:32:38.758:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000376 2021-08-17 23:32:38.961:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000377 2021-08-17 23:32:39.164:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000378 2021-08-17 23:32:39.367:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000379 2021-08-17 23:32:39.570:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000380 2021-08-17 23:32:39.773:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000381 2021-08-17 23:32:39.976:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000382 2021-08-17 23:32:40.179:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000383 2021-08-17 23:32:40.389:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000384 2021-08-17 23:32:40.601:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000385 2021-08-17 23:32:40.805:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000386 2021-08-17 23:32:40.805:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Solve Successful
0000387 2021-08-17 23:32:40.821:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Closing.
0000388 2021-08-17 23:32:50.988:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, CancelAsync: process has already exited.
0000389 2021-08-17 23:32:50.989:  Exception,   Plate Solving, User Clicked Cancel Or Close


Re: #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails #APCC

Bill Long
 

Can you please share the FIT file? 

I am about to do a full APMM model run here in a moment. Will reply back with the results. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Seb@stro <sebastiendore1@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 9:03 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails
 
Hi,

Just tried the new platesolving feature with APPM/ASTAP (using the "Image Link Test" button in APPM) and it always results in failed attemps (near or blind)... Tried several Fits file and it always ends up the same (failed after a few seconds wait). If I open up the same files directly in ASTAP, they platesolve in less than a second... I double checked that coordinates, camera angle and image scale were correctly retrieved from the Fits header and tried increasing the radius search field to 360 deg... no luck. I also set all the settings to 0 (to use the default from ASTAP) and again, it failed. 

Not sure what else I could try. I should add ASTAP platesolve works correctly in other third party app (NINA, APT).

APPM log file shows the platesolve actually succeeded but ends with an exception saying "user clicked cancel or close" which I didn't in all cases. See log extract below. I can provide a link to some subs I tried if it helps and/or the full log file. 

Unfortunately, I can't test the real run under the stars as the sky's clouded, obviously...

Sébastien

LOG EXTRACT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[...]
0000312 2021-08-17 22:33:32.048:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Init
0000313 2021-08-17 22:33:32.048:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, File = C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-03_00-52-03__-5.00_300.00s_0044.fits
0000314 2021-08-17 22:33:32.048:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, RA/Dec = 21.128075 / 68.1509722222222
0000315 2021-08-17 22:33:32.049:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Use FITS for Hints = True, X/Y Scale = 1.46460355029586 / 1.46460355029586
0000316 2021-08-17 22:33:32.049:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, AllSky = False
0000317 2021-08-17 22:33:32.049:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Timeout = 30
0000318 2021-08-17 22:33:32.053:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Solve() called.
0000319 2021-08-17 22:33:32.053:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: application path: c:/program files/astap/astap.exe
0000320 2021-08-17 22:33:32.053:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: arguments: -f "C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-03_00-52-03__-5.00_300.00s_0044.fits" -ra 21.128075 -spd 158.150972222222 -fov 1.49389562130178 -s 1000 -r 10
0000321 2021-08-17 22:33:32.100:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000322 2021-08-17 22:33:32.304:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000323 2021-08-17 22:33:32.508:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000324 2021-08-17 22:33:32.711:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000325 2021-08-17 22:33:32.914:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000326 2021-08-17 22:33:33.117:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000327 2021-08-17 22:33:33.320:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000328 2021-08-17 22:33:33.523:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000329 2021-08-17 22:33:33.726:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000330 2021-08-17 22:33:33.929:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000331 2021-08-17 22:33:34.137:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000332 2021-08-17 22:33:34.351:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000333 2021-08-17 22:33:34.555:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000334 2021-08-17 22:33:34.555:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Solve Successful
0000335 2021-08-17 22:33:34.569:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Closing.
0000336 2021-08-17 22:33:39.376:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, CancelAsync: process has already exited.
0000337 2021-08-17 22:33:39.376:  Exception,   Plate Solving, User Clicked Cancel Or Close
0000338 2021-08-17 23:29:39.758:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Init
0000339 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, File = C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_23-15-54__-5.00_300.00s_0026.fits
0000340 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, RA/Dec = 21.128075 / 68.1509694444445
0000341 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Use FITS for Hints = True, X/Y Scale = 1.46460355029586 / 1.46460355029586
0000342 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, AllSky = False
0000343 2021-08-17 23:29:39.759:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Timeout = 30
0000344 2021-08-17 23:29:39.764:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Solve() called.
0000345 2021-08-17 23:29:39.765:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: application path: c:/program files/astap/astap.exe
0000346 2021-08-17 23:29:39.765:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: arguments: -f "C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_23-15-54__-5.00_300.00s_0026.fits" -ra 21.128075 -spd 158.150969444444 -fov 1.49389562130178 -s 1000 -r 10
0000347 2021-08-17 23:29:39.994:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000348 2021-08-17 23:29:40.211:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000349 2021-08-17 23:29:40.414:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000350 2021-08-17 23:29:40.617:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000351 2021-08-17 23:29:40.820:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000352 2021-08-17 23:29:41.023:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000353 2021-08-17 23:29:41.226:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000354 2021-08-17 23:29:41.430:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000355 2021-08-17 23:29:41.632:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000356 2021-08-17 23:29:41.836:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000357 2021-08-17 23:29:42.039:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000358 2021-08-17 23:29:42.242:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000359 2021-08-17 23:29:42.446:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000360 2021-08-17 23:29:42.446:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Solve Successful
0000361 2021-08-17 23:29:42.461:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Closing.
0000362 2021-08-17 23:29:47.599:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, CancelAsync: process has already exited.
0000363 2021-08-17 23:29:47.599:  Exception,   Plate Solving, User Clicked Cancel Or Close
0000364 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Init
0000365 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, File = C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_22-42-54__-5.00_300.00s_0020.fits
0000366 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, RA/Dec = 21.128075 / 68.1509666666667
0000367 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Use FITS for Hints = True, X/Y Scale = 1.46460355029586 / 1.46460355029586
0000368 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, AllSky = False
0000369 2021-08-17 23:32:38.290:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Timeout = 30
0000370 2021-08-17 23:32:38.294:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Solve() called.
0000371 2021-08-17 23:32:38.294:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: application path: c:/program files/astap/astap.exe
0000372 2021-08-17 23:32:38.295:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, StartSolve: arguments: -f "C:\Users\Sebastro\Documents\N.I.N.A\2021-08-02\LIGHT\2021-08-02_22-42-54__-5.00_300.00s_0020.fits" -ra 21.128075 -spd 158.150966666667 -fov 1.49389562130178 -s 1000 -r 10
0000373 2021-08-17 23:32:38.342:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000374 2021-08-17 23:32:38.554:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000375 2021-08-17 23:32:38.758:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000376 2021-08-17 23:32:38.961:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000377 2021-08-17 23:32:39.164:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000378 2021-08-17 23:32:39.367:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000379 2021-08-17 23:32:39.570:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000380 2021-08-17 23:32:39.773:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000381 2021-08-17 23:32:39.976:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000382 2021-08-17 23:32:40.179:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000383 2021-08-17 23:32:40.389:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP is still running.
0000384 2021-08-17 23:32:40.601:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000385 2021-08-17 23:32:40.805:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, ASTAP has exited.
0000386 2021-08-17 23:32:40.805:       Info, ASTAP Test Solve, Solve Successful
0000387 2021-08-17 23:32:40.821:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, Closing.
0000388 2021-08-17 23:32:50.988:       Info, ASTAP Plate Solve, CancelAsync: process has already exited.
0000389 2021-08-17 23:32:50.989:  Exception,   Plate Solving, User Clicked Cancel Or Close


Re: #APCC Pro 1.9 w/ASTAP platesolve test always fails #APCC

ap@CaptivePhotons.com
 

Seb@stro wrote:

 

  • Just tried the new platesolving feature with APPM/ASTAP (using the "Image Link Test" button in APPM) and it always results in failed attemps (near or blind)... Tried several Fits file and it always ends up the same (failed after a few seconds wait). If I open up the same files directly in ASTAP, they platesolve in less than a second... I double checked that coordinates, camera angle and image scale were correctly retrieved from the Fits header and tried increasing the radius search field to 360 deg... no luck. I also set all the settings to 0 (to use the default from ASTAP) and again, it failed. 

 

So that’s odd in a slightly different way – I set up NINA as the camera, and ASTAP as the plate solver.  I was using a simulator for the camera in NINA that downloads image survey files.

 

The overall process worked fine, in that any image I could solve with ASTAP also solved during the RUN option.

 

The plate solve button on the RUN tab worked.

 

The Image Link Test button would not work at all for me, Keeps saying “the file could not be opened” after it opened the file and provided the header info (and I hit plate solve).

 

I was debating whether to mention to see if someone else had issues with it.  Which maybe you did?


Does the RUN work, or the Plate Solve button on the RUN tab work?   I think this is something with that specific button.

 

But… the underlying link worked nicely, APPM invoked NINA’s camera, returned a file, plate solved, etc.  I did have some issues that the survey images would sometimes not solve, but it was the image – I’d try by hand, tried TSX, nothing would solve it (except astronometry.net, which I think can solve a cup of coffee given time).   But that is about the simulator, nothing to do with the new features.

 

The new features are very cool, being able to avoid using the 32 bit camera routine’s limitations in particular!  And no more need for TSX!

 

Linwood