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Re: One spot config for portable setup #APCC #Mach2GTO

DFisch
 

Greg, brilliant proposal!, thank you

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 02:12 Greg McCall <emailgregnow@...> wrote:
I've been waiting for the upcoming suggestions for enhancements but as it has not yet appeared, I'm going to suggest something now, particularly when I notice some upgrades are being built (between APCC and NINA)
I'm always portable and I have a mixture of OTAs and cameras.
I'm suggesting that we should have a one spot configuration for all AP software config (APCC & APPM) and that it be single profile based.

I'd like site specific stuff (GPS/location and horison) in a single screen (select something and it's all there for a site and I should not have to go anywhere else)
Close by, an OTA and camera combination setup screen all in one screen with the ability to save as a single file profile.

(a bit like SGPro config screen(s) in one spot and being saved as a single profile file.

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TJF MOBILE


Re: Testing SkyTrack continuous tracking with the Mach2 #Mach2GTO

David Johnson
 

APCC 1.9.0.11

I’m also using an APPM model, although in this case I was using an older all-sky model since I didn’t have time to do a new model prior to the ISS pass.  It was for the same setup, although I had taken it down and put it back up.  The model was probably pretty good but not perfect. 


One spot config for portable setup #APCC #Mach2GTO

Greg McCall
 

I've been waiting for the upcoming suggestions for enhancements but as it has not yet appeared, I'm going to suggest something now, particularly when I notice some upgrades are being built (between APCC and NINA)
I'm always portable and I have a mixture of OTAs and cameras.
I'm suggesting that we should have a one spot configuration for all AP software config (APCC & APPM) and that it be single profile based.

I'd like site specific stuff (GPS/location and horison) in a single screen (select something and it's all there for a site and I should not have to go anywhere else)
Close by, an OTA and camera combination setup screen all in one screen with the ability to save as a single file profile.

(a bit like SGPro config screen(s) in one spot and being saved as a single profile file.


Re: New JPL Format for Horizons Ephemeris #APCC - Format Causes Issue #APCC

 

Two things come to mind

First is to make sure you solve and recal ahead of time so your pointing is is as accurate as possible

Second is Comet/satellite tracking is very sensitive to accurate time, many people (myself included) invest in a gps system with realtime clock updates using something like NMEATime



On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 8:25 PM Michael 'Mikey' Mangieri <mjmangieri@...> wrote:
Well, after some trial and error I finally got Horizons to work using the beta release of APCC and the instructions given by Ray to change the header text.  But now I have an interesting question ...
In testing out this feature I decided to target Ceres since it was placed high in the sky during the early evening hours. I wanted to test out the horizons tracking for comet Leonard but it doesn't rise above my tree line until 2:30-3:00 in the morning.  I ran the JPL ephemeris for Ceres and loaded it into APCC.  All went well. I then set my mount (AP1100) to track Ceres starting at 10:30pm.  When the mount slewed to Ceres it was not at the correct location according to Stelarium which I use to target objects and control the mount's initial slew. The location given by Stellarium is RA:  04h 23m 37.6s;  DEC:  +16d 45m 16.2s.  But the JPL data is giving  RA: 04h 22m 57.7s;  DEC:  +16d 39m 30.4s.  This is a considerable discrepancy. APCC Horizons thus points the telescope to a location well out of the FOV of the camera.  
Not sure this is the proper place to discuss this, but has anyone experienced this issue?  This makes setting up a planned tracking impossible since the coordinates are not correct.  I've checked my location (Lat/Lon), and the settings on all the software and they are correct. J2000 vs 'on date' may contribute some of the error, but not nearly the amount I'm seeing.



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Re: New JPL Format for Horizons Ephemeris #APCC - Format Causes Issue #APCC

Michael 'Mikey' Mangieri
 

Well, after some trial and error I finally got Horizons to work using the beta release of APCC and the instructions given by Ray to change the header text.  But now I have an interesting question ...
In testing out this feature I decided to target Ceres since it was placed high in the sky during the early evening hours. I wanted to test out the horizons tracking for comet Leonard but it doesn't rise above my tree line until 2:30-3:00 in the morning.  I ran the JPL ephemeris for Ceres and loaded it into APCC.  All went well. I then set my mount (AP1100) to track Ceres starting at 10:30pm.  When the mount slewed to Ceres it was not at the correct location according to Stelarium which I use to target objects and control the mount's initial slew. The location given by Stellarium is RA:  04h 23m 37.6s;  DEC:  +16d 45m 16.2s.  But the JPL data is giving  RA: 04h 22m 57.7s;  DEC:  +16d 39m 30.4s.  This is a considerable discrepancy. APCC Horizons thus points the telescope to a location well out of the FOV of the camera.  
Not sure this is the proper place to discuss this, but has anyone experienced this issue?  This makes setting up a planned tracking impossible since the coordinates are not correct.  I've checked my location (Lat/Lon), and the settings on all the software and they are correct. J2000 vs 'on date' may contribute some of the error, but not nearly the amount I'm seeing.


Re: Testing SkyTrack continuous tracking with the Mach2 #Mach2GTO

Brent Boshart
 

Hi David,

Nice video!  Are you running APCC and what version number?


Cartes du Ciel Loses Mount Connection When APPM Launches #APCC #ASCOM_V2_Driver

John Upton
 

Hi Astro Nuts,

   This is probably a setting issue but I have noticed the past few outings that my Cartes du Ciel planetarium program (version 4.2.1) loses its connection to the AP-V2 mount driver whenever I first launch APPM from APCC (version 1.9.0.11). (The mount in the AP Mach2.)

   I usually launch application is the following order:
  • APCC
  • Cartes du Ciel
  • PHD2
  • NINA
   I then make the following connections in this order:
  • APCC to Scope via TCP and USB COM3 backup
  • AP-V2 ASCOM Driver via APCC
  • Cartes du Ciel to AP-V2 driver
  • PHD2 to AP-V2 Driver and guide camera
  • NINA to Imaging camera (ASI2600Mx)
  • NINA to AP-V2 driver
  • NINA to other equipment (MoonLight Focuser, PHD2)
   Under this ordering everything works well until I launch APPM from APPC. As soon as that happens Cartes due Ciel throws multiple errors saying that it has lost its connection to the AP-V2 driver and that no mount is connected. I can connect APPM to the mount driver and NINA and then reconnect Cartes du Ciel and all are happy and play well together.

   Has anyone else observed something similar? Is this a known issue? Could it be something that I have set up incorrectly in APPM, APCC, or Cartes du Ciel itself? It is not a catastrophic error and seems to cause no harm but if I can avoid it, so much the better.


John


Re: Testing SkyTrack continuous tracking with the Mach2 #Mach2GTO

David Johnson
 

Latest ISS effort.  Getting better. 


Re: November 2021 Red Beaver Moon

Roland Christen
 

Great, very nice! You got a nice eclipsed Moon there.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: eja24601 via groups.io <eja24601@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Nov 19, 2021 4:51 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] November 2021 Red Beaver Moon

November 18 was started off mostly cloudy, but the forecasts (TV meteorologists included) all pointed to clear skies for the eclipse. With that in mind, I got up at 1AM to start preparing for a go at capturing a sequence. Unfortunately, despite forecasts (Astrospheric and the Clear Sky Clock included) for a partly cloudy sky at that time, it was overcast. The Beaver Moon did punch through some sucker holes and thinning layers long enough for me to come to focus with my telescope/camera. However, the clouds stubbornly hung around. 2:30 came and went with no signs of the clouds dispersing. I finally decided to try and nap until 3:30. I tossed and turned restlessly and finally decided to check conditions around 3:20. Lo and behold, the clouds had parted, with the eclipse partway through.

I hurried to our telescope, consoling myself that if I wouldn't be able to capture a sequence, I would at least attempt an HDR composite. Other than a thin cloud that seemed to mock my first attempt at bracketed exposures, the sky remained clear for the rest of the night. I shot a sequence of bracketed exposures all the way through about 5:45AM, so I have a lot of data to play with as I attempt other HDR composites.

In between capturing images, I thought for a change to view the eclipse visually with a scope. Binoculars views were good but shaky (hand-held, no surprise). So I brought out a Borg 76ED and gazed visually. The view with a 15mm TV Plossl was mesmerizing. My HDR composite is a weak attempt at capturing what I saw through the eyepiece.

That said, here is an attempt at an HDR composite of the eclipse near maximum (taken around 4:05AM). This was taken with a Canon Digital Rebel t6i through a TMB-152 scope riding on an Astro-Physics AP1200GTO mount. This is radically reduced from the original 4000 x 6000-sized image.

Enjoy,
Eric

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0)andPro(1.9.1.1)

Mauricio Guerra
 

Great, many thanks for the time spent on finding the root cause. Your guidance will for sure help others too!

 

Best regards and have a good weekend.

 

Mauricio Guerra

San Diego, CA.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Ray Gralak
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 12:59 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0)andPro(1.9.1.1)

 

Hi Mauricio,

 

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It looks like the field names can change slightly depending on the selected options. I'm going to look into how to make this work better in Horizons, but for now try replacing line 69 with this line:

 

Date__(UT)__HR:MN:SC.fff     R.A.__(a-apparent)__DEC  dRA*cosD d(DEC)/dt   Azi_(a-appr)_Elev     L_Ap_Sid_Time   T-Mag   N-mag

 

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-Ray

 

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> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0)andPro(1.9.1.1)

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Re: November 2021 Red Beaver Moon

Howard Ritter
 

I missed my guess about the significance of the numbers in your screen name! Are you anywhere near Oxford, where I grew up? I’m in the Toledo area now.

—howard

On Nov 19, 2021, at 6:23 PM, eja24601 via groups.io <eja24601@...> wrote:

Thanks, all! This was my first attempt at an HDR composite. Hopefully I can improve my techniques over time. Howard, I live in southwest Ohio. I don't know how VA fared.

Tony, I can relate. I recall being at a dark sky site in NM during one well-placed early morning eclipse, and of course it was clouded over during the event! Fortunately, I was there for a different reason and the eclipse (had I caught it) would have been a bonus.


Re: November 2021 Red Beaver Moon

eja24601
 

Thanks, all! This was my first attempt at an HDR composite. Hopefully I can improve my techniques over time. Howard, I live in southwest Ohio. I don't know how VA fared.

Tony, I can relate. I recall being at a dark sky site in NM during one well-placed early morning eclipse, and of course it was clouded over during the event! Fortunately, I was there for a different reason and the eclipse (had I caught it) would have been a bonus.


Re: November 2021 Red Beaver Moon

Harley Davidson
 

Beautiful image Eric!

All I had was big, huge clouds :(   Wouldn't you know the skies cleared after sunrise.

tony

On 11/19/2021 5:51 PM, eja24601 via groups.io wrote:
November 18 was started off mostly cloudy, but the forecasts (TV meteorologists included) all pointed to clear skies for the eclipse. With that in mind, I got up at 1AM to start preparing for a go at capturing a sequence. Unfortunately, despite forecasts (Astrospheric and the Clear Sky Clock included) for a partly cloudy sky at that time, it was overcast. The Beaver Moon did punch through some sucker holes and thinning layers long enough for me to come to focus with my telescope/camera. However, the clouds stubbornly hung around. 2:30 came and went with no signs of the clouds dispersing. I finally decided to try and nap until 3:30. I tossed and turned restlessly and finally decided to check conditions around 3:20. Lo and behold, the clouds had parted, with the eclipse partway through.

I hurried to our telescope, consoling myself that if I wouldn't be able to capture a sequence, I would at least attempt an HDR composite. Other than a thin cloud that seemed to mock my first attempt at bracketed exposures, the sky remained clear for the rest of the night. I shot a sequence of bracketed exposures all the way through about 5:45AM, so I have a lot of data to play with as I attempt other HDR composites.

In between capturing images, I thought for a change to view the eclipse visually with a scope. Binoculars views were good but shaky (hand-held, no surprise). So I brought out a Borg 76ED and gazed visually. The view with a 15mm TV Plossl was mesmerizing. My HDR composite is a weak attempt at capturing what I saw through the eyepiece.

That said, here is an attempt at an HDR composite of the eclipse near maximum (taken around 4:05AM). This was taken with a Canon Digital Rebel t6i through a TMB-152 scope riding on an Astro-Physics AP1200GTO mount. This is radically reduced from the original 4000 x 6000-sized image.

Enjoy,
Eric


Re: November 2021 Red Beaver Moon

Howard Ritter
 

Very nice capture, Eric. I’ve been hoping that someone in one of the groups I belong to would post a decent HDR image. This is the first I’ve seen. Thanks for posting.

Do you live in western VA? I want to tweak my brother in Lexington (VA) for not bothering to get up to see it if he had the same clearing skies.

—howard

On Nov 19, 2021, at 5:51 PM, eja24601 via groups.io <eja24601@...> wrote:

November 18 was started off mostly cloudy, but the forecasts (TV meteorologists included) all pointed to clear skies for the eclipse. With that in mind, I got up at 1AM to start preparing for a go at capturing a sequence. Unfortunately, despite forecasts (Astrospheric and the Clear Sky Clock included) for a partly cloudy sky at that time, it was overcast. The Beaver Moon did punch through some sucker holes and thinning layers long enough for me to come to focus with my telescope/camera. However, the clouds stubbornly hung around. 2:30 came and went with no signs of the clouds dispersing. I finally decided to try and nap until 3:30. I tossed and turned restlessly and finally decided to check conditions around 3:20. Lo and behold, the clouds had parted, with the eclipse partway through.

I hurried to our telescope, consoling myself that if I wouldn't be able to capture a sequence, I would at least attempt an HDR composite. Other than a thin cloud that seemed to mock my first attempt at bracketed exposures, the sky remained clear for the rest of the night. I shot a sequence of bracketed exposures all the way through about 5:45AM, so I have a lot of data to play with as I attempt other HDR composites.

In between capturing images, I thought for a change to view the eclipse visually with a scope. Binoculars views were good but shaky (hand-held, no surprise). So I brought out a Borg 76ED and gazed visually. The view with a 15mm TV Plossl was mesmerizing. My HDR composite is a weak attempt at capturing what I saw through the eyepiece.

That said, here is an attempt at an HDR composite of the eclipse near maximum (taken around 4:05AM). This was taken with a Canon Digital Rebel t6i through a TMB-152 scope riding on an Astro-Physics AP1200GTO mount. This is radically reduced from the original 4000 x 6000-sized image.

Enjoy,
Eric <MaxEclipse.jpg>


Re: November 2021 Red Beaver Moon

Manusfisch
 

Eric , what a nice blend of colors, The silver gray of the moon really stands out on the left-hand side and blend so nicely with the blood red moon

TJF Mobile

On Nov 19, 2021, at 17:51, eja24601 via groups.io <eja24601@...> wrote:

November 18 was started off mostly cloudy, but the forecasts (TV meteorologists included) all pointed to clear skies for the eclipse. With that in mind, I got up at 1AM to start preparing for a go at capturing a sequence. Unfortunately, despite forecasts (Astrospheric and the Clear Sky Clock included) for a partly cloudy sky at that time, it was overcast. The Beaver Moon did punch through some sucker holes and thinning layers long enough for me to come to focus with my telescope/camera. However, the clouds stubbornly hung around. 2:30 came and went with no signs of the clouds dispersing. I finally decided to try and nap until 3:30. I tossed and turned restlessly and finally decided to check conditions around 3:20. Lo and behold, the clouds had parted, with the eclipse partway through.

I hurried to our telescope, consoling myself that if I wouldn't be able to capture a sequence, I would at least attempt an HDR composite. Other than a thin cloud that seemed to mock my first attempt at bracketed exposures, the sky remained clear for the rest of the night. I shot a sequence of bracketed exposures all the way through about 5:45AM, so I have a lot of data to play with as I attempt other HDR composites.

In between capturing images, I thought for a change to view the eclipse visually with a scope. Binoculars views were good but shaky (hand-held, no surprise). So I brought out a Borg 76ED and gazed visually. The view with a 15mm TV Plossl was mesmerizing. My HDR composite is a weak attempt at capturing what I saw through the eyepiece.

That said, here is an attempt at an HDR composite of the eclipse near maximum (taken around 4:05AM). This was taken with a Canon Digital Rebel t6i through a TMB-152 scope riding on an Astro-Physics AP1200GTO mount. This is radically reduced from the original 4000 x 6000-sized image.

Enjoy,
Eric
<MaxEclipse.jpg>


November 2021 Red Beaver Moon

eja24601
 

November 18 was started off mostly cloudy, but the forecasts (TV meteorologists included) all pointed to clear skies for the eclipse. With that in mind, I got up at 1AM to start preparing for a go at capturing a sequence. Unfortunately, despite forecasts (Astrospheric and the Clear Sky Clock included) for a partly cloudy sky at that time, it was overcast. The Beaver Moon did punch through some sucker holes and thinning layers long enough for me to come to focus with my telescope/camera. However, the clouds stubbornly hung around. 2:30 came and went with no signs of the clouds dispersing. I finally decided to try and nap until 3:30. I tossed and turned restlessly and finally decided to check conditions around 3:20. Lo and behold, the clouds had parted, with the eclipse partway through.

I hurried to our telescope, consoling myself that if I wouldn't be able to capture a sequence, I would at least attempt an HDR composite. Other than a thin cloud that seemed to mock my first attempt at bracketed exposures, the sky remained clear for the rest of the night. I shot a sequence of bracketed exposures all the way through about 5:45AM, so I have a lot of data to play with as I attempt other HDR composites.

In between capturing images, I thought for a change to view the eclipse visually with a scope. Binoculars views were good but shaky (hand-held, no surprise). So I brought out a Borg 76ED and gazed visually. The view with a 15mm TV Plossl was mesmerizing. My HDR composite is a weak attempt at capturing what I saw through the eyepiece.

That said, here is an attempt at an HDR composite of the eclipse near maximum (taken around 4:05AM). This was taken with a Canon Digital Rebel t6i through a TMB-152 scope riding on an Astro-Physics AP1200GTO mount. This is radically reduced from the original 4000 x 6000-sized image.

Enjoy,
Eric


Re: Heavy piggyback considerations

eja24601
 

Thanks for the replies! I don't recognize the TMB's rings; they might be APM/TMB rings of the era (the scope is an actual TMB-152 from the early-mid 2000's). The FSQ is using Socal Astro rings (no longer made, but pretty beefy). I definitely have no plans on using flimsy inexpensive rings.

Chip, that's a great idea to mount the FSQ on the TMB's rings without the scope! Yes, I agree that a tandem arrangement is the better approach long-term. This piggyback idea is not meant for occasional use, not long-term (FSQ riding semi-permanently on the TMB).

Regards,
Eric


Re: New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0)andPro(1.9.1.1)

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Mauricio,

Thanks for the file.

It looks like the field names can change slightly depending on the selected options. I'm going to look into how to make this work better in Horizons, but for now try replacing line 69 with this line:

Date__(UT)__HR:MN:SC.fff R.A.__(a-apparent)__DEC dRA*cosD d(DEC)/dt Azi_(a-appr)_Elev L_Ap_Sid_Time T-Mag N-mag

The problem is that the field that starts with "Azi" is different from what Horizon expects. You'll need to replace this line in any future Horizon ephemeris files you create until I can produce a fix. I've attached the full edited file as well.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mauricio Guerra via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 10:33 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0)andPro(1.9.1.1)

Ray, thanks.



The text file that fails to load is attached.



Thanks,



Mauricio Guerra

San Diego, CA.





Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows



From: Ray Gralak <mailto:iogroups@siriusimaging.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 9:53 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0)andPro(1.9.1.1)



Mauricio,



I narrowed down to 1-hour duration and 1-minute interval (there is no option for 1-sec intervals in the
dropdown box).



Sorry, I thought I sent the explanation of how to do this earlier, but I see I didn't actually click send. :-)



You can increase the time resolution by specifying a one-hour time interval and setting a step size of 3600
"equal units (unitless)", which would produce one-second entries in the ephemeris results table. Your first
video shows a one-minute intervals for a month duration. This may not be the problem but one-minute
sampling is not going to provide a very accurate calculation for the ISS.



And, rather than this back and forth trial and error, please attach the text file that fails to load. That will make it
much easier to determine the problem.



Thanks,



-Ray







-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mauricio Guerra via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 8:50 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0)andPro(1.9.1.1)
Ray:
I narrowed down to 1-hour duration and 1-minute interval (there is no option for 1-sec intervals in the
dropdown

box).
https://youtu.be/QhnU1o9lDM8
I also tried this setting: meaning one-second intervals (assuming you were referring to that). I did not see a
difference. Same error.
Thanks!
Mauricio Guerra
San Diego, CA.
From: Ray Gralak <mailto:iogroups@siriusimaging.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 5:40 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0)andPro(1.9.1.1)
You have a full month of time range. Can you try narrowing it down to one hour and the 1-second effective
time interval?
-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mauricio Guerra via
groups.io

Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 5:11 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0) andPro(1.9.1.1)
Ray, thanks.
I tried selecting on 2,3,4,7, and 9. But I keep getting the same result:
The sequence ending in error is shown here:
https://youtu.be/8ewIGj9ImkE
I can for sure try other options based on your guidance.
* I guess the browser is not an issue. I use Chrome
* I have Windows 10
* I tried the process without connecting to the mount
Thanks for your time.
Mauricio Guerra
San Diego, CA.
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
From: Ray Gralak <mailto:iogroups@siriusimaging.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:08 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0) andPro(1.9.1.1)
Hi Mauricio,
Try selecting only these five check boxes in the Observer Table Settings:
2,3,4,7, and 9.
-Ray
-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mauricio Guerra via
groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 1:29 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0) and Pro(1.9.1.1)
Geert, thanks. Yeah, I used those recommended settings.
I captured the sequence in this brief clip (in 1080p quality, it should show a clear image of the sequence
and
settings):
https://youtu.be/8y3BsvMrAaI
Is it working for all who verified?
Thanks all for your time!
Mauricio Guerra
San Diego, CA.
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
From: Geert <mailto:geert.vandenbulcke@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 1:00 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0) and Pro(1.9.1.1)
Mauricio,
Did you check that the necessary table settings are selected (2, 3, 4, 7, 9) ? Check Edit Table Settings
on

the
Horizons web page.
Geert
Op do 18 nov. 2021 om 21:12 schreef moguerra via groups.io <moguerra=mac.com@groups.io>:
I did tried one more time today using the BETA version you provided above (Pro 1.9.1.1). I did set
the
proper settings and used the buttons to download the data within JPL site and the "Load JPL File"
button

in
Horizons. Unfortunately, I still get the same behavior/error.
I use windows 10, in case it is important.
Hopefully my observation is consistent with other.
Thanks for the help getting this resolved.
Regards,
Mauricio Guerra
San Diego, CA.













Re: New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0)andPro(1.9.1.1)

Mauricio Guerra
 

Ray, thanks.

 

The text file that fails to load is attached.

 

Thanks,

 

Mauricio Guerra

San Diego, CA.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Ray Gralak
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 9:53 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0)andPro(1.9.1.1)

 

Mauricio,

 

> I narrowed down to 1-hour duration and 1-minute interval (there is no option for 1-sec intervals in the dropdown box).

 

Sorry, I thought I sent the explanation of how to do this earlier, but I see I didn't actually click send. :-)

 

You can increase the time resolution by specifying a one-hour time interval and setting a step size of 3600 "equal units (unitless)", which would produce one-second entries in the ephemeris results table. Your first video shows a one-minute intervals for a month duration. This may not be the problem but one-minute sampling is not going to provide a very accurate calculation for the ISS.

 

And, rather than this back and forth trial and error, please attach the text file that fails to load. That will make it much easier to determine the problem.

 

Thanks,

 

-Ray

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mauricio Guerra via groups.io

> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 8:50 PM

> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0)andPro(1.9.1.1)

>

> Ray:

>

>

>

> I narrowed down to 1-hour duration and 1-minute interval (there is no option for 1-sec intervals in the dropdown

> box).

>

>

>

> https://youtu.be/QhnU1o9lDM8

>

>

>

> I also tried this setting: meaning one-second intervals (assuming you were referring to that). I did not see a

> difference. Same error.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

> Mauricio Guerra

>

> San Diego, CA.

>

>

>

> From: Ray Gralak <mailto:iogroups@...>

> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 5:40 PM

> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0)andPro(1.9.1.1)

>

>

>

> You  have a full month of time range. Can you try narrowing it down to one hour and the 1-second effective

> time interval?

>

>

>

> > -----Original Message-----

>

> > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mauricio Guerra via groups.io

>

> > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 5:11 PM

>

> > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

>

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0) andPro(1.9.1.1)

>

> >

>

> > Ray, thanks.

>

> >

>

> > I tried selecting on 2,3,4,7, and 9. But I keep getting the same result:

>

> >

>

> > The sequence ending in error is shown here:

>

> >

>

> > https://youtu.be/8ewIGj9ImkE

>

> >

>

> > I  can for sure try other options based on your guidance.

>

> >

>

> > *         I guess the browser is not an issue. I use Chrome

>

> > *         I have Windows 10

>

> > *         I tried the process without connecting to the mount

>

> >

>

> > Thanks for your time.

>

> >

>

> > Mauricio Guerra

>

> >

>

> > San Diego, CA.

>

> >

>

> > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows

>

> >

>

> > From: Ray Gralak <mailto:iogroups@...>

>

> > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:08 PM

>

> > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

>

> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0) andPro(1.9.1.1)

>

> >

>

> > Hi Mauricio,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Try selecting only these five check boxes in the Observer Table Settings:

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > 2,3,4,7, and 9.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > -Ray

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > > -----Original Message-----

>

> >

>

> > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mauricio Guerra via

> groups.io

>

> >

>

> > > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 1:29 PM

>

> >

>

> > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

>

> >

>

> > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0) and Pro(1.9.1.1)

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Geert, thanks. Yeah, I used those recommended settings.

>

> >

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> > >

>

> >

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> > >

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> >

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> > >

>

> >

>

> > > I captured the sequence in this brief clip (in 1080p quality, it should show a clear image of the sequence

> and

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> >

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> > > settings):

>

> >

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> > >

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> >

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> > >

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> >

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> > >

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> > > https://youtu.be/8y3BsvMrAaI

>

> >

>

> > >

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> >

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> > >

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> >

>

> > >

>

> >

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> > > Is it working for all who verified?

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Thanks all for your time!

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Mauricio Guerra

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> >

>

> > > San Diego, CA.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

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> >

>

> > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > From: Geert <mailto:geert.vandenbulcke@...>

>

> >

>

> > > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 1:00 PM

>

> >

>

> > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

>

> >

>

> > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0) and Pro(1.9.1.1)

>

> >

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> > >

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> >

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> > > Mauricio,

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> > > Did you check that the necessary table settings are selected (2, 3, 4, 7, 9) ? Check Edit Table Settings on

>

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> > > Horizons web page.

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> > > Geert

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> > > Op do 18 nov. 2021 om 21:12 schreef moguerra via groups.io <moguerra@...>:

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >         I did tried one more time  today using the BETA version you provided above (Pro 1.9.1.1). I did set

> the

>

> >

>

> > > proper settings and used the buttons to download the data within JPL site and the "Load JPL File" button

> in

>

> >

>

> > > Horizons. Unfortunately, I still get the same behavior/error.

>

> >

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> > >

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> >

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> > >         I use windows 10, in case it is important.

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> >

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> >

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> > >

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> >

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> > >         Hopefully my observation is consistent with other.

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> >

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> > >

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> >

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> > >         Thanks for the help getting this resolved.

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> >

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> > >

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> >

>

> > >         Regards,

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> >

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> > >

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> > >         Mauricio Guerra

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> >

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> > >         San Diego, CA.

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Re: New beta version of APCC Standard (1.9.1.0) and Pro(1.9.1.1)

Michael 'Mikey' Mangieri
 

I have tried the new beta with the settings as described but the downloaded file still gives the error message (twice).

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