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Re: Mach2 Keypad Availability

 

We’ll have more comparative information when we are ready to release. One of the main advantages is that the startup routine is easier. It will also have some new features.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of DFisch
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 4:48 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Keypad Availability

 

Marj, is there any advantage to using the new keypad on an upgraded CP4 over the original hand pad.  I have both with a Mach 1 and a 1100GTO.  Thanks for any advice you might send my way.  Tom Fischer, INDy

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bill Long
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 1:14 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Keypad Availability

 

Great update! Thrilled to get some new capabilities for the CP4. Great work!

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Marj Christen <marj@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:20 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Keypad Availability

 

Our first goal is to release the new firmware for the GTOCP4, which we are nearly ready to do. The keypad update will be available sometime after that. The manual needs to be updated for the GTOCP4 since some aspects are different.

 

It’s coming soon, hang in there.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Luke Leege
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Keypad Availability

 

Any news on when the update will be available for current keypad owners?

 


Re: Another Recommendation of the Ridgid Tool Cart for transporting the AP900/1100

rtlangland
 

Thanks for the information.
Bob Langland


On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:43 PM, john vogt <atmer@...> wrote:

Hi Bob,

The TTS bags are the small version. With two weights per bag their easily manageable.
I think the max per bag would be 2-18lb weights..

CS,
John


Re: Mach2 Keypad Availability

DFisch
 

Marj, is there any advantage to using the new keypad on an upgraded CP4 over the original hand pad.  I have both with a Mach 1 and a 1100GTO.  Thanks for any advice you might send my way.  Tom Fischer, INDy

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bill Long
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 1:14 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Keypad Availability

 

Great update! Thrilled to get some new capabilities for the CP4. Great work!

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Marj Christen <marj@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:20 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Keypad Availability

 

Our first goal is to release the new firmware for the GTOCP4, which we are nearly ready to do. The keypad update will be available sometime after that. The manual needs to be updated for the GTOCP4 since some aspects are different.

 

It’s coming soon, hang in there.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Luke Leege
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Keypad Availability

 

Any news on when the update will be available for current keypad owners?

 


Re: Multi-star guiding

Calypte
 

I have the Superstar guider, which I chose for its pixels being smaller than those of the Lodestar.  When using the QSI's OAG, I have had instances where there were no usable guide stars within the parameters I set in CCD Commander (which selects the guide star automatically).  A specific object where I had this problem was M64.  The scope is a TEC140ED, 1030 mm FL with the flattener.  


Re: Capacity check on AP 1100

David Enck
 

sure, will  do on the pictures :-) 


Re: Capacity check on AP 1100

David Enck
 

Yup, that may be the way  to go in the end, but it is an expensive test..  Not a big fan of dismounting  and  remounting the two OTA's  to switch them out. Hoping to get it usable  in one unit as it is much easier to  use one or the other on a whim if they are both mounted up at the same time, or compare views back and forth with one set up. I have only had SCT's and  am very curious how this TAK TSA 120 would  do in comparison.  

It tracks very well currently with the SCT  right now with  an ASI 2600 camera at about 2080 mm focal length (reducer)  for astro  photography..  Don't want to  lower that ability too much if I add in the refractor..  Guessing the refractor  would  be  much more forgiving at it's focal length though along with the better pixel scale of the camera.. 

Guessing  this new set up  would be fine for  visual for sure though.. 

Just hoping  for a bit more of a definitive answer to  ease my concern before making the plunge..  :-) 


Re: Capacity check on AP 1100

CaptMax
 

Please post pictures if you do.  


Re: Capacity check on AP 1100

Jeff B
 

Of course one way to find out David is to give it a go and see.


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:27 PM Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...> wrote:
I think it will be fine as a fun experiment. It won't be as rigid as it was before, but that's to be expected. And if you don't like the setup enough to make it a permanent solution,  you can always easily revert back to your previous configuration and you will have the tandem setup that could be re-deployed in just a few minutes.

Quite often I use 2-scope and even 3-scope tandem bars when doing solar outreach. Makes it a lot of fun to compare white-light filters with h-alpha and calcium-k views, for example. Or monocular views with binoviews.

When setting up a tandem scope config, I use a pencil on the floor to find the balance points of the various equipment combinations and assemblies and then mark them with a small bit of tape or an adhesive dot that I can use for a reference when mounting stuff up on the mount.


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020, 11:16 AM David Enck <davidenck@...> wrote:
Hello AP Folks,

My last post was mentioning adding a refractor  to my AP 1100 to go along with my 14 in Meade LX850 67 lb SCT. After adding up all the  additional weights of the refractor and side by side configuration from the ADM  rails and saddles, it will put my  total weight at about 110 #'s give or take a couple  depending on eyepieces..

Will this be ok, as in not affect  my guiding and  such  as long as it is all balanced out  correctly? I use and off axis guider when  doing  any photography. 

Thank you for your advice!

David


Re: Capacity check on AP 1100

Christopher Erickson
 

I think it will be fine as a fun experiment. It won't be as rigid as it was before, but that's to be expected. And if you don't like the setup enough to make it a permanent solution,  you can always easily revert back to your previous configuration and you will have the tandem setup that could be re-deployed in just a few minutes.

Quite often I use 2-scope and even 3-scope tandem bars when doing solar outreach. Makes it a lot of fun to compare white-light filters with h-alpha and calcium-k views, for example. Or monocular views with binoviews.

When setting up a tandem scope config, I use a pencil on the floor to find the balance points of the various equipment combinations and assemblies and then mark them with a small bit of tape or an adhesive dot that I can use for a reference when mounting stuff up on the mount.


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020, 11:16 AM David Enck <davidenck@...> wrote:
Hello AP Folks,

My last post was mentioning adding a refractor  to my AP 1100 to go along with my 14 in Meade LX850 67 lb SCT. After adding up all the  additional weights of the refractor and side by side configuration from the ADM  rails and saddles, it will put my  total weight at about 110 #'s give or take a couple  depending on eyepieces..

Will this be ok, as in not affect  my guiding and  such  as long as it is all balanced out  correctly? I use and off axis guider when  doing  any photography. 

Thank you for your advice!

David


Capacity check on AP 1100

David Enck
 

Hello AP Folks,

My last post was mentioning adding a refractor  to my AP 1100 to go along with my 14 in Meade LX850 67 lb SCT. After adding up all the  additional weights of the refractor and side by side configuration from the ADM  rails and saddles, it will put my  total weight at about 110 #'s give or take a couple  depending on eyepieces..

Will this be ok, as in not affect  my guiding and  such  as long as it is all balanced out  correctly? I use and off axis guider when  doing  any photography. 

Thank you for your advice!

David


Re: Multi-star guiding

 

indeed it should be a good test!

as I mentioned before (and i just saw a few more confirmations of this) it looks like a 10-15% improvement in guiding accuracy (i'm talking PHD2 multi-star specifically)

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:12 PM Joel Short <buckeyestargazer@...> wrote:
Interestingly I just learned today that PHD2 now has multi-star guiding.  The results by other users look promising, and I'm hoping to try it tonight with my AP1100.  Looks to be clear in northern Indiana, but the seeing conditions don't look great.  With my "glass half full" outlook, that means it should be a good test for the new multi-star guiding!  :)
joel



--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: Multi-star guiding

Joel Short
 

Interestingly I just learned today that PHD2 now has multi-star guiding.  The results by other users look promising, and I'm hoping to try it tonight with my AP1100.  Looks to be clear in northern Indiana, but the seeing conditions don't look great.  With my "glass half full" outlook, that means it should be a good test for the new multi-star guiding!  :)
joel


Re: Multi-star guiding

Michael Hamburg
 

That tracking error graph is something to really envy! Congratulations!

Best wishes, Michael


On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 12:06:16 PM EST, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Hello fellow Astronuts,

I've been meaning to try something new (for me) in my guided imaging. My setup consists of a 160EDF refractor on a mach2 encoder mount, a QSI-683WSG camera with off-axis pickup, and a Lodestar guide camera. I do all of my imaging with MaximDL Pro6 which has a multi star guiding function. Up to now I have used single star guiding and so i have to pick a guide star and let the guider do its thing. That's an extra step, and since I'm lazy I decided to let the program guide on the whole enchilada using the multi star guide method. So, how did that work out for a 20 minute exposure? Well see below:

Rolando
Notes:
The guiding was effortless, extremely accurate (partly thanks to the precision movements of the Mach2 mount), and required no thinking on my part. The Lodestar guide camera is really tops in my book. It picks up stars in every part of the sky, even in star-poor regions. My guide exposures are 5 seconds with 1 second delay between exposures. My Min Move for both axes was set to 0.02 seconds (which is 0.3 arc sec), and the aggressiveness was set to 8 out of 10 since the seeing was quite good. Outside temperature last night was 25 degrees F. The peak values reflect the dither moves between exposures in case you're wondering.

The California Nebula did not fit into my camera's field of view, oh well. Thus I'm in the market for a larger chip camera for Christmas Smile




--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: [ap-ug] Multi-star guiding

Bill Long
 

The FLI version of that usually has about 6e- noise, whereas the others are 9-12e- if that matters to you. If you can get your hands on the FLI ML16200 camera, you will love it. 

Alternatively, there is the QSI6162 camera which is more readily available, has a little higher noise (9e- I think), but has different spacing than the rest of the QSI600 series, although does come in that all-in-one package.


From: chris1011@... <chris1011@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 10:26 AM
To: bill@... <bill@...>; main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] Multi-star guiding
 
I'm aiming for a 16200 before they disappear completely.

Roland


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Long <bill@...>
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 11:21 am
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] Multi-star guiding

Big fan of the Lodestar x2 and the Ultrastar. 

Bigger chip, those IMX455 cameras are really popular, and you can still find some 16200 and 16803 cameras, although those are phased out and becoming increasingly difficult to locate, if at all.  


From: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io> on behalf of Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:06 AM
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-ug] Multi-star guiding
 
Hello fellow Astronuts,

I've been meaning to try something new (for me) in my guided imaging. My setup consists of a 160EDF refractor on a mach2 encoder mount, a QSI-683WSG camera with off-axis pickup, and a Lodestar guide camera. I do all of my imaging with MaximDL Pro6 which has a multi star guiding function. Up to now I have used single star guiding and so i have to pick a guide star and let the guider do its thing. That's an extra step, and since I'm lazy I decided to let the program guide on the whole enchilada using the multi star guide method. So, how did that work out for a 20 minute exposure? Well see below:

Rolando
Notes:
The guiding was effortless, extremely accurate (partly thanks to the precision movements of the Mach2 mount), and required no thinking on my part. The Lodestar guide camera is really tops in my book. It picks up stars in every part of the sky, even in star-poor regions. My guide exposures are 5 seconds with 1 second delay between exposures. My Min Move for both axes was set to 0.02 seconds (which is 0.3 arc sec), and the aggressiveness was set to 8 out of 10 since the seeing was quite good. Outside temperature last night was 25 degrees F. The peak values reflect the dither moves between exposures in case you're wondering.

The California Nebula did not fit into my camera's field of view, oh well. Thus I'm in the market for a larger chip camera for Christmas Smile




Re: [ap-ug] Multi-star guiding

Roland Christen
 

I'm aiming for a 16200 before they disappear completely.

Roland


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Long <bill@...>
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 11:21 am
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] Multi-star guiding

Big fan of the Lodestar x2 and the Ultrastar. 

Bigger chip, those IMX455 cameras are really popular, and you can still find some 16200 and 16803 cameras, although those are phased out and becoming increasingly difficult to locate, if at all.  


From: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io> on behalf of Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:06 AM
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-ug] Multi-star guiding
 
Hello fellow Astronuts,

I've been meaning to try something new (for me) in my guided imaging. My setup consists of a 160EDF refractor on a mach2 encoder mount, a QSI-683WSG camera with off-axis pickup, and a Lodestar guide camera. I do all of my imaging with MaximDL Pro6 which has a multi star guiding function. Up to now I have used single star guiding and so i have to pick a guide star and let the guider do its thing. That's an extra step, and since I'm lazy I decided to let the program guide on the whole enchilada using the multi star guide method. So, how did that work out for a 20 minute exposure? Well see below:

Rolando
Notes:
The guiding was effortless, extremely accurate (partly thanks to the precision movements of the Mach2 mount), and required no thinking on my part. The Lodestar guide camera is really tops in my book. It picks up stars in every part of the sky, even in star-poor regions. My guide exposures are 5 seconds with 1 second delay between exposures. My Min Move for both axes was set to 0.02 seconds (which is 0.3 arc sec), and the aggressiveness was set to 8 out of 10 since the seeing was quite good. Outside temperature last night was 25 degrees F. The peak values reflect the dither moves between exposures in case you're wondering.

The California Nebula did not fit into my camera's field of view, oh well. Thus I'm in the market for a larger chip camera for Christmas Smile




--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Mach2 Keypad Availability

Bill Long
 

Great update! Thrilled to get some new capabilities for the CP4. Great work!


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Marj Christen <marj@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:20 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Keypad Availability
 

Our first goal is to release the new firmware for the GTOCP4, which we are nearly ready to do. The keypad update will be available sometime after that. The manual needs to be updated for the GTOCP4 since some aspects are different.

 

It’s coming soon, hang in there.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Luke Leege
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Keypad Availability

 

Any news on when the update will be available for current keypad owners?


Re: Mach2 Keypad Availability

Jeff B
 

Any chance of an Emergency Use Authorization?  😀😷


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 12:17 PM Marj Christen <marj@...> wrote:

Our first goal is to release the new firmware for the GTOCP4, which we are nearly ready to do. The keypad update will be available sometime after that. The manual needs to be updated for the GTOCP4 since some aspects are different.

 

It’s coming soon, hang in there.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Luke Leege
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Keypad Availability

 

Any news on when the update will be available for current keypad owners?


Re: [ap-ug] Multi-star guiding

Bill Long
 

Big fan of the Lodestar x2 and the Ultrastar. 

Bigger chip, those IMX455 cameras are really popular, and you can still find some 16200 and 16803 cameras, although those are phased out and becoming increasingly difficult to locate, if at all.  


From: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io> on behalf of Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:06 AM
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-ug] Multi-star guiding
 
Hello fellow Astronuts,

I've been meaning to try something new (for me) in my guided imaging. My setup consists of a 160EDF refractor on a mach2 encoder mount, a QSI-683WSG camera with off-axis pickup, and a Lodestar guide camera. I do all of my imaging with MaximDL Pro6 which has a multi star guiding function. Up to now I have used single star guiding and so i have to pick a guide star and let the guider do its thing. That's an extra step, and since I'm lazy I decided to let the program guide on the whole enchilada using the multi star guide method. So, how did that work out for a 20 minute exposure? Well see below:

Rolando
Notes:
The guiding was effortless, extremely accurate (partly thanks to the precision movements of the Mach2 mount), and required no thinking on my part. The Lodestar guide camera is really tops in my book. It picks up stars in every part of the sky, even in star-poor regions. My guide exposures are 5 seconds with 1 second delay between exposures. My Min Move for both axes was set to 0.02 seconds (which is 0.3 arc sec), and the aggressiveness was set to 8 out of 10 since the seeing was quite good. Outside temperature last night was 25 degrees F. The peak values reflect the dither moves between exposures in case you're wondering.

The California Nebula did not fit into my camera's field of view, oh well. Thus I'm in the market for a larger chip camera for Christmas Smile




Re: [ap-ug] Multi-star guiding

Dale Ghent
 

It's a bit serendipitous that you've brought up this topic! Just yesterday, the PHD2 developers released a development preview build of PHD2 2.6.9 that has multi-star guiding implemented. It has been in testing for the past 2 or so months, and this is the first public release where it's available.

I used it for the first time last night during a 10 hour long dusk to dawn session, imaging StDr 56 and then M81/82 in Ha. Using APCC Pro with a fresh model and a recent PEC, my Mach1 guided in the mid-.40's arcsec RMS on average, and down into the mid-.30's whenever the wind that was present decided to completely die down. My pixel scale is 0.888 arcsec/px. I got fantastic stars and the only throw-aways were due to some cirrus clouds that blew through in the early morning.

I guide using a Baader Vario-Finder with ZWO ASI290MM-mini camera.

On Dec 3, 2020, at 12:06, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello fellow Astronuts,

I've been meaning to try something new (for me) in my guided imaging. My setup consists of a 160EDF refractor on a mach2 encoder mount, a QSI-683WSG camera with off-axis pickup, and a Lodestar guide camera. I do all of my imaging with MaximDL Pro6 which has a multi star guiding function. Up to now I have used single star guiding and so i have to pick a guide star and let the guider do its thing. That's an extra step, and since I'm lazy I decided to let the program guide on the whole enchilada using the multi star guide method. So, how did that work out for a 20 minute exposure? Well see below:

Rolando
Notes:
The guiding was effortless, extremely accurate (partly thanks to the precision movements of the Mach2 mount), and required no thinking on my part. The Lodestar guide camera is really tops in my book. It picks up stars in every part of the sky, even in star-poor regions. My guide exposures are 5 seconds with 1 second delay between exposures. My Min Move for both axes was set to 0.02 seconds (which is 0.3 arc sec), and the aggressiveness was set to 8 out of 10 since the seeing was quite good. Outside temperature last night was 25 degrees F. The peak values reflect the dither moves between exposures in case you're wondering.

The California Nebula did not fit into my camera's field of view, oh well. Thus I'm in the market for a larger chip camera for Christmas

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Re: Mach2 Keypad Availability

 

Our first goal is to release the new firmware for the GTOCP4, which we are nearly ready to do. The keypad update will be available sometime after that. The manual needs to be updated for the GTOCP4 since some aspects are different.

 

It’s coming soon, hang in there.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Luke Leege
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Keypad Availability

 

Any news on when the update will be available for current keypad owners?

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