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Re: Connecting Mount to TheSky and Maxim DL Using Single Serial ...

John Winfield
 

You're presumably referring to using the guide controls to move the
mount, not the "click on the image to point here" feature?

The former uses the guide output control (either through the ASCOM
driver or the camera relays), whereas the latter performs a small slew.

If you're using guide relays for guiding then I doubt that Maxim will
change the guide rate, I've not tried doing this through the ASCOM
driver (using PulseGuide() calls) though.

In order to do this you have to dig through a number of screens - it's
not a common operation.
Most times people would use the right-click on the image to recenter
feature instead (I certainly do).

I think saying that this constitutes "Maxim has lots of bugs in it
that can cause you trouble when you connect it to the mount servo" is
a little harsh though?

John


--- In ap-gto@..., chris1011@... wrote:

In a message dated 1/23/2008 12:50:31 PM Central Standard Time,
winfij@... writes:


There's a contentious statement - care to elaborate?
Lots of people are using Maxim with AP mounts through the ASCOM driver
just fine.

There are definitely advantages to having Maxim put the image coords
into the FITS header.
That's fine.

One problem you need to be aware of: if you move the mount via Maxim's
centering controls, it will reset the guide speed to the centering
speed that you
have picked. The moment that you try guiding with the centering
speed, your
guide star will shoot off the chip.

Roland


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Re: Connecting Mount to TheSky and Maxim DL Using Single Serial ...

Antonio Fernandez EA4LE
 

Roland,
will this happen also if Maxim is set to "TheSKYControlled telescope"?
regards,

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chris1011@... escribi:


In a message dated 1/23/2008 12:50:31 PM Central Standard Time,
winfij@... <mailto:winfij%40gmail.com> writes:

There's a contentious statement - care to elaborate?
Lots of people are using Maxim with AP mounts through the ASCOM driver
just fine.

There are definitely advantages to having Maxim put the image coords
into the FITS header.
That's fine.

One problem you need to be aware of: if you move the mount via Maxim's
centering controls, it will reset the guide speed to the centering speed that you
have picked. The moment that you try guiding with the centering speed, your
guide star will shoot off the chip.

Roland

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Re: Connecting Mount to TheSky and Maxim DL Using Single Serial ...

jjanusz@...
 

I use the centering control all the time without a problem. Is this a problem only with AP controllers that do not have seperate guide and slew rates?

Jim

That's fine.

One problem you need to be aware of: if you move the mount via Maxim's
centering controls, it will reset the guide speed to the centering speed that you
have picked. The moment that you try guiding with the centering speed, your
guide star will shoot off the chip.

Roland


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Re: Connecting Mount to TheSky and Maxim DL Using Single Serial ...

jjanusz@...
 

I use the centering control all the time without a problem. Is this a problem only with AP controllers that do not have seperate guide and slew rates?

Jim

That's fine.

One problem you need to be aware of: if you move the mount via Maxim's
centering controls, it will reset the guide speed to the centering speed that you
have picked. The moment that you try guiding with the centering speed, your
guide star will shoot off the chip.

Roland


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Re: Connecting Mount to TheSky and Maxim DL Using Single Serial Cable?

John Winfield
 

--- In ap-gto@..., chris1011@... wrote:
Why do you want to connect MaximDL to the mount? Be aware that Maxim
has lots
of bugs in it that can cause you trouble when you connect it to the
mount
servo.

Rolando
There's a contentious statement - care to elaborate?
Lots of people are using Maxim with AP mounts through the ASCOM driver
just fine.

There are definitely advantages to having Maxim put the image coords
into the FITS header.

John


Re: Connecting Mount to TheSky and Maxim DL Using Single Serial Cable?

ancient.sull
 

What I do which works well is:

Set TheSky6 to connect to the APGTO driver. You need "Astro-Physics GTO
(4.1.25)" and you need the latest version of TheSky6 (6.0.0.58 although
I think 6.0.0.57 also works) or you won't have access to "Recalibrate".

Set Maxim to "TheSkyControlled Telescope"

Connect TheSky to the mount (actually I use two serial cables and
initialize first with Pulseguide but you can work just from TheSky).

Slew to a star and Sync TheSky.

Connect Maxim to the mount.

Now you can center, plate solve etc using Maxim and PinPoint LE. And
you can at this point start FocusMax and/or PolarAlignMax and they will
connect to Maxim and TheSky properly.

I have my HC set to "EXT" and let the laptop initialize the mount (from
Park Position 1) and I have found it works better to have TheSky sync
_before_ connecting to Maxim so Maxim knows where the mount is pointing
(you can also sync from Maxim and TheSky seems to respond to that).

One last thing on versions: the most recent posted version of Maxim
(.61) has a bug regarding the use of multiple SBIG cameras (one to
image, one to guide). There is an 0.62 patch available if you ask Maxim
for it and earlier versions of Maxim work fine.


Re: How to recover from tracking past meridian flip position- As...

Roland Christen
 

In a message dated 1/23/2008 2:54:59 PM Central Standard Time,
rickwiggins@... writes:


Am I correct that Pulse Guide needs to be connected up until the
mount is turned off? Otherwise, how would Pulse Guide know where the
mount was if the computer had locked up and the mount continued
tracking?
Thanks, Rick
I believe Pulse Guide works the same way as the keypad. Both of these
programs asks the mount "where are you?" upon power being applied to these programs.
If the answer is a legitimate position in the sky, then these program
automatically know that the servo has already been initialized and will simply go on
from there as if nothing has happened. Therefore you can disconnect the keypad
or Pulse Guide and reconnect them later, and they will know where they are.
Once the servo is initialized, it takes over all functions of keeping track of
sky positions. The keypad and Pulse Guide are not needed at all.

Whenever the servo has not been initialized (complete cold start), then the
query at the beginning will return a code to PulseGuide or the keypad that
identifies this fact. The keypad will then send the initialization routine
automatically. Pulse Guide, I believe, requires the user to initialize the mount.

Roland Christen


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Re: Connecting Mount to TheSky and Maxim DL Using Single Serial ...

Roland Christen
 

In a message dated 1/23/2008 12:50:31 PM Central Standard Time,
winfij@... writes:


There's a contentious statement - care to elaborate?
Lots of people are using Maxim with AP mounts through the ASCOM driver
just fine.

There are definitely advantages to having Maxim put the image coords
into the FITS header.
That's fine.

One problem you need to be aware of: if you move the mount via Maxim's
centering controls, it will reset the guide speed to the centering speed that you
have picked. The moment that you try guiding with the centering speed, your
guide star will shoot off the chip.

Roland


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Re: Connecting Mount to TheSky and Maxim DL Using Single Serial Cable?

Kent Kirkley
 

In a message dated 1/23/08 12:50:24 PM, winfij@... writes:



There's a contentious statement - care to elaborate?
Lots of people are using Maxim with AP mounts through the ASCOM driver
just fine.

There are definitely advantages to having Maxim put the image coords
into the FITS header.

John
John:
I think Roland meant that 'controlling' the mount might be a problem, not
image acquisition or processing.

Kent Kirkley




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Re: Connecting Mount to TheSky and Maxim DL Using Single Serial Cable?

Roland Christen
 

In a message dated 1/23/2008 12:05:16 AM Central Standard Time,
twade35@... writes:


I searched through past postings, but I'm still confused on the best
way to connect the software (TheSky 6 and Maxim DL) and 900GOTO mount
using a single serial cable. I have all the latest ASCOM drivers and
the latest versions of Maxim DL and TheSky. Could someone state the
procedure in a step-by-step manner. I'm currently using POTH which is
causing some peculiar behavior (e.g. reversed N/S) and PemPro v2.0
reporting opposite altitude corrections during polar alignment.
Depends what you want to accomplish. Basically you can connect TheSky to the
mount directly without any ASCOM drivers. Just connect and establish a link.

Why do you want to connect MaximDL to the mount? Be aware that Maxim has lots
of bugs in it that can cause you trouble when you connect it to the mount
servo.

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Connecting Mount to TheSky and Maxim DL Using Single Serial Cable?

twade35
 

I searched through past postings, but I'm still confused on the best
way to connect the software (TheSky 6 and Maxim DL) and 900GOTO mount
using a single serial cable. I have all the latest ASCOM drivers and
the latest versions of Maxim DL and TheSky. Could someone state the
procedure in a step-by-step manner. I'm currently using POTH which is
causing some peculiar behavior (e.g. reversed N/S) and PemPro v2.0
reporting opposite altitude corrections during polar alignment.

Thanks in advance,

Wade


Re : Tr : new AP 1200 user

PHILIPPE RENAUD <phiren60@...>
 

Hi Bert
I have fixed the pb
you was totally right !
The problem came from the power cable : I have done my test with the previous cable of my vintage Atlux mount; the diameter of the is cable ( and the power ) was not not sufficient .

Thanks a lot

Phil

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Hi Phil:

If your power supply is putting out 12 volts, the power demand, even at 12

deg C, might lower the actual voltage enough to cause your symptoms. An

output of 14-15 volts is better. I use a AC-to-DC converter in my

observatory and it puts out 13.5 volts. At California temperatures

(sometimes as low as 0-2 deg C at night in the winter) my 1200 GTO slews

fine at 600 and 1200X.

Brief presses of the NSEW buttons may not draw the voltage on your power

supply low enough to turn on the low voltage LED. The best test would be to

put a voltmeter on the input to the mount and hold down one of the buttons

while watching the voltage drop to its minimum.

Good luck!

Bert



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Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:47 PM

Subject: Re : [ap-gto] Tr : new AP 1200 user



Hi Bert,



the temperature is not cold actually in north of France ( > 12° c during day

time ) and I have tested the slewing at 600X;

I have pushed the speed to 1200X only to test the manual N S E W buttons and

it worked

Tomorrow I shall test another power suply

it 's still a mystery



Thank you anyway



Bye

Phil



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Hi Philippe:

If the temperature in your observatory is very cold, you may have to reduce

the slew speed to 600. Slewing at maximum speed at low temperatures puts a

much greater demand on the power supply.

Hope this helps...

Bert



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Hello,

very new AP 1200 user , this morning I switched on the power of the

Equatorial mount for the first time and aftter setting up , when slewing to

the sun , the error message " motor stall" rose on the key pad, the LED

turned yellow and the mount stopped. I have made this setup without

telescope and counterweight shaft , clutch knobs manually tight ;

the N S E W buttons are ok since the AP1200 moves quicky ( up to 1200X)

when pressing them.

my autoconnect is set NO , and I think my setting up procedure is ok (

keypad V 4.12 );

Settled permanently in my observatory, I have also tested autoconnect set to

YES: same problem ;

I also reset Status , hitting "0" ; no way

any idea ?



thanks

Philippe RENAUD

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Re: How to recover from tracking past meridian flip position- Asking...

Wiggins, Rick
 

Hi Roland,
I will try this solution with Pulse Guide. This may be the best
solution if it works as I don't need the keypad plugged in. Will
Pulse Guide initialize the mount just like the keypad? I would
assume that this solution may also fail if the reason for the
failure is that the computer locked up. From your previous post it
sounds like leaving the keypad plugged in and set to "Autostart Yes"
is the most robust solution towards recovery. The downside to that
setting is that the mount will track at all times when the mount is
powered up; whereas, now the mount does not tracking until I link it
in TheSky.
Thanks, Rick

--- In ap-gto@..., chris1011@... wrote:

In a message dated 1/22/2008 12:15:30 PM Central Standard Time,
chris1011@... writes:


In a message dated 1/22/2008 11:34:47 AM Central Standard Time,
rickwiggins@... writes:


Manual recovery: Recently the switch stopped the mount as
planned. I
disconnected the limit switch to allow the mount to be
restarted. I
restarted the mount. I first tried TheSky to send the mount to
a
position where the telescope is on the East side pointing just
above
the horizon and nearly parallel to the ground. This began to
send
the scope further under the mount (continuing in a clockwise
direction when facing the azimuth adjuster). I quickly stopped
it.
The reason why it did that is because TheSky did not recognize
that the
scope
was now on the wrong side of the mount. It probably initialized
the mount as

if the scope is on top, but in fact then the counterweight
becomes the scope

and the scope becomes the counterweight. The keypad and mount
servo work
together to properly initialize the mount so that even if you
shut the power
off
with the scope upside down or on the wrong side, the system
remembers this
and
initializes properly. The only way to avoid starting off wrong
is to always
allow the keypad to initialize the mount - i.e. leave the keypad
in
Autostart
"YES" instead of "EXT". You can still use TheSky to do all your
slewing and
parking functions just as before, but you will avoid problems
like this.

Rolando
If you really really do not want to use the keypad, you might want
to use
Pulse Guide to recover. After the scope has gone past the meridian
and your
switch has tripped, simply turn the power back on and use Pulse
Guide to send the
scope to Park3 (scope pointing to the north pole). This will put
the system
back to the safe quadrant and you can continue to use TheSky to
slew elsewhere
without going the wrong way.

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Re: How to recover from tracking past meridian flip position- Asking...

Wiggins, Rick
 

Hi Roland,
Thanks. I will set the keypad with the setting "Autostart Yes" next
time I go out to the observatory. That sounds like a fairly robust
solution with the only downside being having the keypad plugged in.
Thanks, Rick

--- In ap-gto@..., chris1011@... wrote:

In a message dated 1/22/2008 11:34:47 AM Central Standard Time,
rickwiggins@... writes:


Manual recovery: Recently the switch stopped the mount as
planned. I
disconnected the limit switch to allow the mount to be
restarted. I
restarted the mount. I first tried TheSky to send the mount to a
position where the telescope is on the East side pointing just
above
the horizon and nearly parallel to the ground. This began to
send
the scope further under the mount (continuing in a clockwise
direction when facing the azimuth adjuster). I quickly stopped
it.
The reason why it did that is because TheSky did not recognize
that the scope
was now on the wrong side of the mount. It probably initialized
the mount as
if the scope is on top, but in fact then the counterweight becomes
the scope
and the scope becomes the counterweight. The keypad and mount
servo work
together to properly initialize the mount so that even if you shut
the power off
with the scope upside down or on the wrong side, the system
remembers this and
initializes properly. The only way to avoid starting off wrong is
to always
allow the keypad to initialize the mount - i.e. leave the keypad
in Autostart
"YES" instead of "EXT". You can still use TheSky to do all your
slewing and
parking functions just as before, but you will avoid problems like
this.

Rolando


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Re: How to recover from tracking past meridian flip position- Asking advice.

Wiggins, Rick
 

Hi Dean,
I will try Pulse Guide in addition to runnning with TheSky.
Thanks, Rick

--- In ap-gto@..., "Dean Salman" <cluster@...> wrote:

Rick, I have used PulseGuide for that exact same issue. Not sure
why
TheSky does what it does. I have not seen this issue since I have
used the new sync on 6.00.57 of TheSky, but I am not using the
keypad
anymore so i am not sure if that feature in the sky would work
anyway.

You should be able to disconnect the Keypad and not even use it,
just
use PulseGuide, but you need 1.32 beta for it to initialize at
startup. Otherwise you have to move through the tabs to get it
set
how you want.

Dean


--- In ap-gto@..., "Rick Wiggins" <rickwiggins@> wrote:

Hi Roland,

I have a very specific question and it takes a little setup
information below:

I am running my AP1200 remotely in an observatory. I installed a
microswitch to stop the mount from slewing into the pier if the
computer freezes, etc. This switch works. It is positioned such
that
if you are standing facing the azimuth adjusters, it is nearly
straight down (6 O'clock position). It is actually set to stop
the
mount when it has just passed the spot where it would be
meridian
flipped (if 180 degrees is straight down, it is set for
approximately 185 degrees moving clockwise if facing the azimuth
adjuster). When the switch is triggered, the power is removed
from
the mount.

Manual recovery: Recently the switch stopped the mount as
planned.
I
disconnected the limit switch to allow the mount to be
restarted. I
restarted the mount. I first tried TheSky to send the mount to a
position where the telescope is on the East side pointing just
above
the horizon and nearly parallel to the ground. This began to
send
the scope further under the mount (continuing in a clockwise
direction when facing the azimuth adjuster). I quickly stopped
it.

I then plugged in the handcontroller and used the East button to
slowly move the scope counterclockwise (opposite sidereal
direction)
until the scope was on the East side of the mount. After doing
that,
TheSky worked to send it anywhere I wanted.

Now I can get to the question:
How can I perform this recovery remotely and not lose pointing
or
drive the scope under the mount further? I usually control the
mount
with TheSky.

Why is TheSky trying to move the scope further under the mount
in
the sidereal direction? Is it because TheSky was trying to send
the
mount in the shortest distance route? Should I use the motion
controls in TheSky to gradually move the mount a couple of
degrees
at a time (giving it East commands) until it is past the 180
degree
point (say 175 degrees)? Or should I install a program like
PulseGuide and use that for recovery until I can get the scope
back
in normal position?

Thanks for any help,
Rick


Re: How to recover from tracking past meridian flip position- Asking advice.

Ray Gralak <rgr@...>
 

There may be a version 1.33 soon but you can get the new zipped EXE from the
link below. Just extract it over the
old EXE in c:&#92;Program Files&#92;PulseGuide v1.30 (or rename the old one if you
want to keep it). Please let me know if you see any issues.

http://www.pulseguide.com/Installs/PulseGuide-v1.32EXE.zip

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
On Behalf Of Dean Salman
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:02 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: How to recover from tracking past
meridian flip position- Asking advice.

if Ray does not jump in, I will upload it to my site tonight. It is
on this group but that was about a month ago when it was posted.

--- In ap-gto@...
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> , "guidoretiig"
<rettig.thiem@...> wrote:

Hi Dean,
where can I find this version (1.32 beta) of PulseGuide?
Guido



--- In ap-gto@...
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> , "Dean Salman" <cluster@> wrote:

Rick, I have used PulseGuide for that exact same issue. Not sure
why
TheSky does what it does. I have not seen this issue since I
have
used the new sync on 6.00.57 of TheSky, but I am not using the
keypad
anymore so i am not sure if that feature in the sky would work
anyway.

You should be able to disconnect the Keypad and not even use it,
just
use PulseGuide, but you need 1.32 beta for it to initialize at
startup. Otherwise you have to move through the tabs to get it
set
how you want.

Dean


--- In ap-gto@...
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick Wiggins" <rickwiggins@>
wrote:

Hi Roland,

I have a very specific question and it takes a little setup
information below:

I am running my AP1200 remotely in an observatory. I installed
a
microswitch to stop the mount from slewing into the pier if the
computer freezes, etc. This switch works. It is positioned such
that
if you are standing facing the azimuth adjusters, it is nearly
straight down (6 O'clock position). It is actually set to stop
the
mount when it has just passed the spot where it would be
meridian
flipped (if 180 degrees is straight down, it is set for
approximately 185 degrees moving clockwise if facing the
azimuth
adjuster). When the switch is triggered, the power is removed
from
the mount.

Manual recovery: Recently the switch stopped the mount as
planned.
I
disconnected the limit switch to allow the mount to be
restarted.
I
restarted the mount. I first tried TheSky to send the mount to
a
position where the telescope is on the East side pointing just
above
the horizon and nearly parallel to the ground. This began to
send
the scope further under the mount (continuing in a clockwise
direction when facing the azimuth adjuster). I quickly stopped
it.

I then plugged in the handcontroller and used the East button
to
slowly move the scope counterclockwise (opposite sidereal
direction)
until the scope was on the East side of the mount. After doing
that,
TheSky worked to send it anywhere I wanted.

Now I can get to the question:
How can I perform this recovery remotely and not lose pointing
or
drive the scope under the mount further? I usually control the
mount
with TheSky.

Why is TheSky trying to move the scope further under the mount
in
the sidereal direction? Is it because TheSky was trying to send
the
mount in the shortest distance route? Should I use the motion
controls in TheSky to gradually move the mount a couple of
degrees
at a time (giving it East commands) until it is past the 180
degree
point (say 175 degrees)? Or should I install a program like
PulseGuide and use that for recovery until I can get the scope
back
in normal position?

Thanks for any help,
Rick




Re: Unattended image acquisition

Steve Reilly <sreilly@...>
 

This is the e-mail with the link.

Steve


_____

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] On Behalf Of
Ray Gralak
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:16 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: Unattended image acquisition



Hi Dean,

It seems that the initialization code for the slew rate was never put into
1.30, so even though you checked that option the command to set the slew
rate is not sent. Here is a beta version (v1.32) that has these fixes:

1) Will send the slew initialization command when that option is checked in
the initialization.
2) Initializes "last sent" text for Slew rate, Tracking Rate, and PEM.
3) Works with the full range of longitude values from -180 to 360 (useful
for those east of the GMT).
4) Added a N/S drop down list box to declination in the Goto/Sync group box
(fixes problem with small negative declinations like -0 30 00).
5) Added a button to load the current RA/Dec into the Goto/Synch
coordinates.

BTW the "Sync" button in v1.30 and this version do a RCAL and not a Synch to
the mount.

You can get the new zipped EXE from the link below. Just extract it over the
old EXE in c:&#92;Program Files&#92;PulseGuide v1.30 (or rename the old one if you
want to keep it). Please let me know if you see any issues. Everyone else is
invited to use it as well.

http://www.pulsegui
<http://www.pulseguide.com/Installs/PulseGuide-v1.32EXE.zip>
de.com/Installs/PulseGuide-v1.32EXE.zip

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]
On Behalf Of Dean Salman
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:30 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Unattended image acquisition

I might add I have CPGOTO2, (e-chip) does the initialize only work
with 3

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> , "Dean Salman" <cluster@...> wrote:

I don't know what I am doing wrong.

I see the initialize dialog and all the check boxes are checked.
Then I click initialize
Then disconnect
Now I connect to the TheSky6 (6.0.57)

It slews fast 1200

The only way to prevent the sky 6 from slewng so fast is to click
the
slew tab in pulseguide and click the 600. Now I can disconnect and
connect to the at 600 speed.

I am using 1.30 of PG, is there a newer version. Does it matter
what
port I am using on the mount.




--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> , "Ray Gralak" <rgr@> wrote:

Hi Dean,

If you are using any program that uses the AP ASCOM driver
whenever
you
connect to the mount it will send its own set of settings. Could
this be
what is happening?

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Dean Salman
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:17 AM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Unattended image acquisition

I agree, it is very easy to use.

I am having one issue with PulseGuide. When it first comes up
you
get the initialize dialog. I choose 600 slew for both and
autoguider
set to 1.

When I slew it is at the 1200 speed so I have to click the 600
speed
to set it. In addition, when I calibrate with maxim, the guide
star
moves too much, so I change the auto guider setting in PG from
0.5
and back to 1.0

What am I doing wrong in the initialize since that is suppose
to
set
it? One thought is I am an older version, downloaded it about 6
months ago.

Dean

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> , "Jim Janusz" <jjanusz@>
wrote:

I highly recommend CCDCommander. It's very powerful AND
reasonably
priced.

http://ccdcommander <http://ccdcommander.astromatt.com/>
.astromatt.com/
<http://ccdcommander <http://ccdcommander.astromatt.com/> .astromatt.com/>
<http://ccdcommander <http://ccdcommander.astromatt.com/>
.astromatt.com/
<http://ccdcommander <http://ccdcommander.astromatt.com/> .astromatt.com/>


I use it to control all of my imaging sessions at the remote
observatory.
It will automatically do a pier flip and continue imaging as
well
as slew to
a target, plate solve, focus and park the mount when finished.

I'm not associated with Matt in any way, just a happy user.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "pepineus" <tromouse@>
To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:27 AM
Subject: [ap-gto] Unattended image acquisition


Hi,

I often find myself imaging faint targets (comets,
asteroids
and
occasionally novae). I sometimes leave the mount (AP900)
doing
the job
while I am sleeping. I am always fearing the OTA will hit
the
mount
when crossing the meridian.

I am wondering what other people is using for unattended
image
acquisition and which is the most adequate software
to "program"
an
imaging session: I am thinking of things like homing the
telescope,
stopping tracking at a particular time, etc.

Any hints or recommendations are wellcome.

Thanks in advance,

Josep M. Aymami
Tiana, Spain



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Re: How to recover from tracking past meridian flip position- Asking advice.

Dean Salman <cluster@...>
 

if Ray does not jump in, I will upload it to my site tonight. It is
on this group but that was about a month ago when it was posted.


--- In ap-gto@..., "guidoretiig" <rettig.thiem@...> wrote:

Hi Dean,
where can I find this version (1.32 beta) of PulseGuide?
Guido



--- In ap-gto@..., "Dean Salman" <cluster@> wrote:

Rick, I have used PulseGuide for that exact same issue. Not sure
why
TheSky does what it does. I have not seen this issue since I
have
used the new sync on 6.00.57 of TheSky, but I am not using the
keypad
anymore so i am not sure if that feature in the sky would work
anyway.

You should be able to disconnect the Keypad and not even use it,
just
use PulseGuide, but you need 1.32 beta for it to initialize at
startup. Otherwise you have to move through the tabs to get it
set
how you want.

Dean


--- In ap-gto@..., "Rick Wiggins" <rickwiggins@>
wrote:

Hi Roland,

I have a very specific question and it takes a little setup
information below:

I am running my AP1200 remotely in an observatory. I installed
a
microswitch to stop the mount from slewing into the pier if the
computer freezes, etc. This switch works. It is positioned such
that
if you are standing facing the azimuth adjusters, it is nearly
straight down (6 O'clock position). It is actually set to stop
the
mount when it has just passed the spot where it would be
meridian
flipped (if 180 degrees is straight down, it is set for
approximately 185 degrees moving clockwise if facing the
azimuth
adjuster). When the switch is triggered, the power is removed
from
the mount.

Manual recovery: Recently the switch stopped the mount as
planned.
I
disconnected the limit switch to allow the mount to be
restarted.
I
restarted the mount. I first tried TheSky to send the mount to
a
position where the telescope is on the East side pointing just
above
the horizon and nearly parallel to the ground. This began to
send
the scope further under the mount (continuing in a clockwise
direction when facing the azimuth adjuster). I quickly stopped
it.

I then plugged in the handcontroller and used the East button
to
slowly move the scope counterclockwise (opposite sidereal
direction)
until the scope was on the East side of the mount. After doing
that,
TheSky worked to send it anywhere I wanted.

Now I can get to the question:
How can I perform this recovery remotely and not lose pointing
or
drive the scope under the mount further? I usually control the
mount
with TheSky.

Why is TheSky trying to move the scope further under the mount
in
the sidereal direction? Is it because TheSky was trying to send
the
mount in the shortest distance route? Should I use the motion
controls in TheSky to gradually move the mount a couple of
degrees
at a time (giving it East commands) until it is past the 180
degree
point (say 175 degrees)? Or should I install a program like
PulseGuide and use that for recovery until I can get the scope
back
in normal position?

Thanks for any help,
Rick


Re: How to recover from tracking past meridian flip position- Asking advice.

guidoretiig
 

Hi Dean,
where can I find this version (1.32 beta) of PulseGuide?
Guido



--- In ap-gto@..., "Dean Salman" <cluster@...> wrote:

Rick, I have used PulseGuide for that exact same issue. Not sure
why
TheSky does what it does. I have not seen this issue since I have
used the new sync on 6.00.57 of TheSky, but I am not using the
keypad
anymore so i am not sure if that feature in the sky would work
anyway.

You should be able to disconnect the Keypad and not even use it,
just
use PulseGuide, but you need 1.32 beta for it to initialize at
startup. Otherwise you have to move through the tabs to get it set
how you want.

Dean


--- In ap-gto@..., "Rick Wiggins" <rickwiggins@> wrote:

Hi Roland,

I have a very specific question and it takes a little setup
information below:

I am running my AP1200 remotely in an observatory. I installed a
microswitch to stop the mount from slewing into the pier if the
computer freezes, etc. This switch works. It is positioned such
that
if you are standing facing the azimuth adjusters, it is nearly
straight down (6 O'clock position). It is actually set to stop
the
mount when it has just passed the spot where it would be meridian
flipped (if 180 degrees is straight down, it is set for
approximately 185 degrees moving clockwise if facing the azimuth
adjuster). When the switch is triggered, the power is removed
from
the mount.

Manual recovery: Recently the switch stopped the mount as
planned.
I
disconnected the limit switch to allow the mount to be restarted.
I
restarted the mount. I first tried TheSky to send the mount to a
position where the telescope is on the East side pointing just
above
the horizon and nearly parallel to the ground. This began to send
the scope further under the mount (continuing in a clockwise
direction when facing the azimuth adjuster). I quickly stopped it.

I then plugged in the handcontroller and used the East button to
slowly move the scope counterclockwise (opposite sidereal
direction)
until the scope was on the East side of the mount. After doing
that,
TheSky worked to send it anywhere I wanted.

Now I can get to the question:
How can I perform this recovery remotely and not lose pointing or
drive the scope under the mount further? I usually control the
mount
with TheSky.

Why is TheSky trying to move the scope further under the mount in
the sidereal direction? Is it because TheSky was trying to send
the
mount in the shortest distance route? Should I use the motion
controls in TheSky to gradually move the mount a couple of
degrees
at a time (giving it East commands) until it is past the 180
degree
point (say 175 degrees)? Or should I install a program like
PulseGuide and use that for recovery until I can get the scope
back
in normal position?

Thanks for any help,
Rick


Re: How to recover from tracking past meridian flip position- Asking advice.

Dean Salman <cluster@...>
 

Rick, I have used PulseGuide for that exact same issue. Not sure why
TheSky does what it does. I have not seen this issue since I have
used the new sync on 6.00.57 of TheSky, but I am not using the keypad
anymore so i am not sure if that feature in the sky would work anyway.

You should be able to disconnect the Keypad and not even use it, just
use PulseGuide, but you need 1.32 beta for it to initialize at
startup. Otherwise you have to move through the tabs to get it set
how you want.

Dean


--- In ap-gto@..., "Rick Wiggins" <rickwiggins@...> wrote:

Hi Roland,

I have a very specific question and it takes a little setup
information below:

I am running my AP1200 remotely in an observatory. I installed a
microswitch to stop the mount from slewing into the pier if the
computer freezes, etc. This switch works. It is positioned such
that
if you are standing facing the azimuth adjusters, it is nearly
straight down (6 O'clock position). It is actually set to stop the
mount when it has just passed the spot where it would be meridian
flipped (if 180 degrees is straight down, it is set for
approximately 185 degrees moving clockwise if facing the azimuth
adjuster). When the switch is triggered, the power is removed from
the mount.

Manual recovery: Recently the switch stopped the mount as planned.
I
disconnected the limit switch to allow the mount to be restarted. I
restarted the mount. I first tried TheSky to send the mount to a
position where the telescope is on the East side pointing just
above
the horizon and nearly parallel to the ground. This began to send
the scope further under the mount (continuing in a clockwise
direction when facing the azimuth adjuster). I quickly stopped it.

I then plugged in the handcontroller and used the East button to
slowly move the scope counterclockwise (opposite sidereal
direction)
until the scope was on the East side of the mount. After doing
that,
TheSky worked to send it anywhere I wanted.

Now I can get to the question:
How can I perform this recovery remotely and not lose pointing or
drive the scope under the mount further? I usually control the
mount
with TheSky.

Why is TheSky trying to move the scope further under the mount in
the sidereal direction? Is it because TheSky was trying to send the
mount in the shortest distance route? Should I use the motion
controls in TheSky to gradually move the mount a couple of degrees
at a time (giving it East commands) until it is past the 180 degree
point (say 175 degrees)? Or should I install a program like
PulseGuide and use that for recovery until I can get the scope back
in normal position?

Thanks for any help,
Rick