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Re: Power Light Colors

Richard Crisp
 

orange = yellow in this application

when you power it up and before you wake it up with the keypad it is yellow

----- Original Message -----
From: gjsalyer
To: ap-gto@...
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:48 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Power Light Colors


What are the possible colors of the GTO CP3 power indicator light? The
manual only indicates that yellow is a fault indication. I'm asking
because my AP900 is showing what looks like orange to me. I'm not
having any problem but it seems likely that what looks like orange to
me might be yellow to others - indicating that I will soon notice
something wrong. I see in the messages that red is a possibility.
Frankly I just don't remember what color I used to get - since I
operate from my house, I rarely see the control panel. Thanks.

Greg


Power Light Colors

gjsalyer <salyer@...>
 

What are the possible colors of the GTO CP3 power indicator light? The
manual only indicates that yellow is a fault indication. I'm asking
because my AP900 is showing what looks like orange to me. I'm not
having any problem but it seems likely that what looks like orange to
me might be yellow to others - indicating that I will soon notice
something wrong. I see in the messages that red is a possibility.
Frankly I just don't remember what color I used to get - since I
operate from my house, I rarely see the control panel. Thanks.

Greg


Re: IC 5067 - Pelican nebula in Cygnus

Joe Mize
 

Anthony with your 88deg nighttime temps you have nothing to complain about, this is a very nice image...joe :)


"May You Go Among The Imperishable Stars"
Joe Mize www.cav-sfo.com
Chiefland Astronomy Village, Fla.

----- Original Message -----
From: "ayiomamitis" <ayiomami@...>
To: <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:33 AM
Subject: [ap-gto] IC 5067 - Pelican nebula in Cygnus


Dear group,

Last night I sat down to pursue the Pelican nebula in Cygnus. I was debating between the
widefield version (IC 5070) using my Tak FSQ and the narrowfield version (IC 5067) using my
AP160.

As is often the case, my AP160 prevailed (okay, I am biased) and I went after the known area
involving the neck of the pelican and which is characterized with tendrils. I was disappointed
at my operating temperature (-2.5d Celsius, 93% capacity) but then beggars can't be
choosers.

For a result based on nearly 4.5 hours using luminance layering, I kindly direct you to
http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-DSO-IC-5067.htm . My camera is quite weak in the red and
the high operating temperature made processing an interesting exercise and challenge.

Clear skies!

Anthony.


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Re: Declination Problems Continue

twade35
 

Roland,

If you tapped the controls and the star flew off the screen, then
you were either not at 1x, or you have huge amounts of Dec backlash
dialed into your keypad.
I believe I know what I did wrong. I set the guide rate to 0.5x
rather than the keypad button rate.

Thanks for explaining in more detail what I'm supposed to be looking
for while doing the test. I should be able to rerun it over the weekend.

Wade


IC 5067 - Pelican nebula in Cygnus

ayiomamitis
 

Dear group,

Last night I sat down to pursue the Pelican nebula in Cygnus. I was debating between the
widefield version (IC 5070) using my Tak FSQ and the narrowfield version (IC 5067) using my
AP160.

As is often the case, my AP160 prevailed (okay, I am biased) and I went after the known area
involving the neck of the pelican and which is characterized with tendrils. I was disappointed
at my operating temperature (-2.5d Celsius, 93% capacity) but then beggars can't be
choosers.

For a result based on nearly 4.5 hours using luminance layering, I kindly direct you to
http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-DSO-IC-5067.htm . My camera is quite weak in the red and
the high operating temperature made processing an interesting exercise and challenge.

Clear skies!

Anthony.


Re: New Mach-1 user

Mark Jenkins
 

Welcome Pawel!

Nice site.

Great story about your trip to the total solar eclipse in Turkey!

Mark

On Jul 10, 2008, at 2:27 AM, Pawel T. Lancucki wrote:


Hi

Yes, my main interest is astrophotography. I do have a small
gallery on
Pbase:

http://www.pbase.com/plancucki/pl_astronomy

Nothing spectacular, still learning.

Best regards

Pawel Lancucki



Re: Declination Problems Continue

Roland Christen
 

In a message dated 7/9/2008 9:23:28 PM Central Daylight Time,
twade35@... writes:


I went through the instructions. At first, I tapped on the controls
and the star almost flew off the screen. I then started to get a
better handle on how much pressure to apply and started controlling
the movement better. I'm still not sure what this test is telling me
as opposed to the PulseGuide tests.
If you tapped the controls and the star flew off the screen, then you were
either not at 1x, or you have huge amounts of Dec backlash dialed into your
keypad. Do the test as shown on the website and determine for yourself whether the
star moves according to your commands. What needs to happen is that when you
command the star to move N that it moves in one direction, and does not have
retrograde motion or sideways motion. After it has moved some pixels in that
direction, you tap the S button. Now the star must move in the other direction
after a small delay - no retrograde or sideways motion. The delay of motion
reversal should not exceed 1 - 2 seconds if the button is pressed continuously
(it will take longer of course if you pulse it). You can see the star motion if
you put the camera in focus mode in a box of 50 to 100 pixel size. Do this and
determine whether the star moves back and forth according to your commands.
You should be able to control the movement of the star by a few pixels just by
pulsing the N or S button. Same goes for the E-W buttons.

Rolando


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Re: New Mach-1 user

Pawel Lancucki
 

Hi

Yes, my main interest is astrophotography. I do have a small gallery on
Pbase:

http://www.pbase.com/plancucki/pl_astronomy

Nothing spectacular, still learning.

Best regards

Pawel Lancucki


Re: Declination Problems Continue

twade35
 

Roland,

Characterizing the Dec Axis Motions (09-15-03) - PDF document.
I went through the instructions. At first, I tapped on the controls
and the star almost flew off the screen. I then started to get a
better handle on how much pressure to apply and started controlling
the movement better. I'm still not sure what this test is telling me
as opposed to the PulseGuide tests. I would think the PulseGuide
tests still indicate something is wrong with the Dec axis. Here are
the results saved in the Track.log file:

Track Log Started at UT 2008-07-08 05:28:03
UT Time, Star X, Star Y, OffsetX, OffsetY, Corr X, Corr Y, Bright
05:28:04, 176.85, 135.76, -0.15, -0.24, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:05, 176.86, 135.83, -0.14, -0.17, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:06, 176.96, 135.77, -0.04, -0.23, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:07, 176.92, 135.81, -0.08, -0.19, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:09, 177.07, 135.80, 0.07, -0.20, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:10, 177.06, 135.80, 0.06, -0.20, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:11, 177.04, 135.81, 0.04, -0.19, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:12, 177.02, 135.78, 0.02, -0.22, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:13, 177.08, 135.85, 0.08, -0.15, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:14, 177.13, 135.69, 0.13, -0.31, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:16, 176.95, 135.81, -0.05, -0.19, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:17, 177.04, 135.80, 0.04, -0.20, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:18, 177.05, 135.75, 0.05, -0.25, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:19, 177.05, 135.68, 0.05, -0.32, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:20, 177.02, 135.73, 0.02, -0.27, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:21, 177.05, 135.71, 0.05, -0.29, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:22, 176.97, 135.78, -0.03, -0.22, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:24, 176.96, 135.75, -0.04, -0.25, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:25, 177.00, 135.75, 0.00, -0.25, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:26, 177.08, 135.82, 0.08, -0.18, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:27, 177.16, 135.82, 0.16, -0.18, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:28, 177.18, 135.83, 0.18, -0.17, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:29, 177.18, 135.78, 0.18, -0.22, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:30, 177.20, 135.73, 0.20, -0.27, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:32, 177.24, 135.84, 0.24, -0.16, 0.24, 0.00, 64968
05:28:33, 177.00, 140.36, 0.00, 4.36, 0.00, 0.00, 64037
05:28:34, 176.99, 140.36, -0.01, 4.36, 0.00, 0.00, 64978
05:28:35, 176.55, 150.22, -0.45, 14.22, -0.22, 0.00, 55303
05:28:37, 176.75, 150.47, -0.25, 14.47, 0.00, 0.00, 50071
05:28:38, 176.66, 150.24, -0.34, 14.24, 0.00, 0.00, 61522
05:28:39, 176.73, 150.26, -0.27, 14.26, 0.00, 0.00, 64960
05:28:40, 176.71, 147.15, -0.29, 11.15, 0.00, 0.00, 64992
05:28:41, 176.64, 147.18, -0.36, 11.18, 0.00, 0.00, 62383
05:28:43, 176.64, 147.06, -0.36, 11.06, 0.00, 0.00, 62559
05:28:44, 176.79, 142.22, -0.21, 6.22, 0.00, 0.00, 64965
05:28:45, 176.74, 142.23, -0.26, 6.23, 0.00, 0.00, 64965
05:28:46, 176.59, 142.15, -0.41, 6.15, -0.32, 0.00, 59725
05:28:48, 177.03, 136.99, 0.03, 0.99, 0.00, 0.00, 64974
05:28:49, 177.02, 137.02, 0.02, 1.02, 0.00, 0.00, 64974
05:28:50, 176.95, 137.01, -0.05, 1.01, 0.00, 0.00, 64974
05:28:51, 177.08, 131.95, 0.08, -4.05, 0.00, 0.00, 64973
05:28:53, 177.07, 131.99, 0.07, -4.01, 0.00, 0.00, 64973
05:28:54, 177.26, 127.17, 0.26, -8.83, 0.00, 0.00, 64957
05:28:55, 177.24, 126.39, 0.24, -9.61, 0.00, 0.00, 51481
05:28:56, 177.41, 122.05, 0.41, -13.95, 0.00, 0.00, 64968
05:28:57, 177.51, 122.01, 0.51, -13.99, 0.29, 0.00, 51472
05:28:59, 177.13, 125.29, 0.13, -10.71, 0.00, 0.00, 64984
05:29:00, 177.20, 125.32, 0.20, -10.68, 0.00, 0.00, 64984
05:29:01, 177.04, 129.93, 0.04, -6.07, 0.00, 0.00, 64956
05:29:02, 176.94, 132.51, -0.06, -3.49, 0.00, 0.00, 39669
05:29:03, 176.81, 134.92, -0.19, -1.08, 0.00, 0.00, 64990
05:29:04, 176.80, 134.96, -0.20, -1.04, -0.22, 0.00, 64990
05:29:06, 176.97, 134.99, -0.03, -1.01, 0.00, 0.00, 64990
05:29:07, 176.71, 140.11, -0.29, 4.11, -0.22, 0.00, 64978
05:29:09, 176.88, 140.23, -0.12, 4.23, 0.00, 0.00, 64978
05:29:10, 176.82, 140.17, -0.18, 4.17, 0.00, 0.00, 64978
05:29:11, 176.55, 145.37, -0.45, 9.37, -0.30, 0.00, 46414
05:29:13, 176.55, 150.21, -0.45, 14.21, -0.22, 0.00, 53006
05:29:14, 176.76, 147.17, -0.24, 11.17, 0.00, 0.00, 64992
05:29:15, 176.76, 147.13, -0.24, 11.13, 0.00, 0.00, 64992
05:29:17, 176.69, 147.12, -0.31, 11.12, 0.00, 0.00, 64992
05:29:18, 176.65, 147.12, -0.35, 11.12, 0.00, 0.00, 64992
05:29:19, 176.84, 142.17, -0.16, 6.17, 0.00, 0.00, 64965
05:29:20, 176.90, 140.66, -0.10, 4.66, 0.00, 0.00, 50941
05:29:21, 176.82, 137.00, -0.18, 1.00, 0.00, 0.00, 64974
05:29:22, 176.97, 136.94, -0.03, 0.94, 0.00, 0.00, 64974
05:29:23, 176.94, 137.14, -0.06, 1.14, 0.00, 0.00, 64974
05:29:25, 177.04, 132.37, 0.04, -3.63, 0.00, 0.00, 64973
05:29:26, 177.09, 132.30, 0.09, -3.70, 0.00, 0.00, 64973
05:29:27, 177.05, 132.24, 0.05, -3.76, 0.00, 0.00, 64973
05:29:28, 177.02, 132.01, 0.02, -3.99, 0.00, 0.00, 61676
05:29:29, 177.17, 127.24, 0.17, -8.76, 0.00, 0.00, 64957
05:29:30, 177.37, 124.64, 0.37, -11.36, 0.00, 0.00, 27276
05:29:31, 177.44, 122.45, 0.44, -13.55, 0.23, 0.00, 38849
05:29:33, 177.22, 122.42, 0.22, -13.58, 0.00, 0.00, 55995
05:29:34, 177.25, 125.34, 0.25, -10.66, 0.00, 0.00, 64984
05:29:35, 177.24, 125.42, 0.24, -10.58, 0.00, 0.00, 54569
05:29:36, 177.32, 125.34, 0.32, -10.66, 0.00, 0.00, 56783
05:29:38, 177.10, 129.26, 0.10, -6.74, 0.00, 0.00, 49247
05:29:39, 177.02, 130.20, 0.02, -5.80, 0.00, 0.00, 64956
05:29:40, 176.93, 134.92, -0.07, -1.08, 0.00, 0.00, 64990
05:29:41, 176.93, 134.98, -0.07, -1.02, 0.00, 0.00, 64990
05:29:42, 176.85, 135.00, -0.15, -1.00, 0.00, 0.00, 64990
05:29:44, 176.82, 135.02, -0.18, -0.98, 0.00, 0.00, 64990


Thanks,

Wade


Exoplanet TrES-1b in Lyra

ayiomamitis
 

Dear group,

Last night I sat down to pursue the predicted transit for TrES-1b in Lyra. Although the winds
were very strong and I did think about packing things up on more than one occasion, I
eventually sat things out and let the session complete (much to my satisfaction after seeing
the results). However, I would like to revisit this exoplanet over the next few days with the
two or three opportunities which do exist so as to pursue hopefully a cleaner result under
better conditions.

The light curve is available on my website at

http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Photometry-TrES-1-20080708.htm ....

I promise to follow-up later this week with another transit result for TrES-1b under better
weather conditions.

Clear skies!

Anthony.


Re: New Mach-1 user

Roland Christen
 

In a message dated 7/9/2008 3:52:48 AM Central Daylight Time,
pawel.lancucki@... writes:


Hi All,

After a longish travel, my Mach-1 finally arrived to Poland yesterday and I
was able to set it up in-house on the Baader hardwood tripod. First with
just the cw bar attached to perform initial setup, than added
counterweights and my FSQ106. I must say it is a very nice piece of
hardware, very well machined. I also like the robustness of the electronics
- the way controller and handpad are housed, wires attached etc. Looks a
bit like "military grade" stuff definitely designed for field use :-)

As expected, the sky clouded up and it started to rain, so I have to
postpone any field tests and any real imaging with the new scope.

Nevertheless, I am pretty proud and happy Mach-1 user.

BTW, this is the first Mach-1 in Poland so far :-)

Pawel Lancucki
Welcome to the group. Do you have plans for astrophotography? If so, we would
like to see your results.

Rolando


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New Mach-1 user

Pawel Lancucki
 

Hi All,

After a longish travel, my Mach-1 finally arrived to Poland yesterday and I
was able to set it up in-house on the Baader hardwood tripod. First with
just the cw bar attached to perform initial setup, than added
counterweights and my FSQ106. I must say it is a very nice piece of
hardware, very well machined. I also like the robustness of the electronics
- the way controller and handpad are housed, wires attached etc. Looks a
bit like "military grade" stuff definitely designed for field use :-)

As expected, the sky clouded up and it started to rain, so I have to
postpone any field tests and any real imaging with the new scope.

Nevertheless, I am pretty proud and happy Mach-1 user.

BTW, this is the first Mach-1 in Poland so far :-)

Pawel Lancucki


Mount Will Not Connect To Computer -SOLVED

Bill Bradford
 

First I thank all who have responded about this problem. It was gratifying to receive so much help.

The problem apparently was a corrupted serial port driver. Why it decided to do that while I was connected to the mount and doing Move commands I have no idea.

Richard Crisp hit it on the head when he told me that I first needed to get Windows up to date on my computer. The computer has been used only for astro the past couple of years and was way out of date. I did the update today.

Second, he said that after Windows is up to date to delete the serial port in the Device Mgr. Then to reboot so the system would have to go find the drivers. He said he would lay his money on it working. I have to admit that I was skeptical. :>)

Sure enough...it worked. Thanks, Richard.

Thanks everyone,
Bill


Re: Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

Bill Bradford
 

Hi Bill,
My first attempt at HyperTerminal did not work out well. I'm sure that I did not do something right.

Am going to try again after I finish updating the computer. It has not been connected to the net for a long time, so am updating Windows and the latest The Sky 6 drivers.

Appreciate your input.

Regards,
Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: William R. Mattil
To: ap-gto@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer


Bill Bradford wrote:
>
> I tried to connect with a different cable today and still have the same problem. I am going to try to connect on a friend's 1200 to get a final determination on the computer and cables.
>
> If I can connect on his mount, I will give you guys a call about next steps with my Control Panel.
>
>
>

Bill is it too much trouble to jumper pin 2 to pin 3 and use Hyperterm
to at least prove the computers serial port works ?

Bill


Re: Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

William R. Mattil <wrmattil@...>
 

Bill Bradford wrote:

I tried to connect with a different cable today and still have the same problem. I am going to try to connect on a friend's 1200 to get a final determination on the computer and cables.

If I can connect on his mount, I will give you guys a call about next steps with my Control Panel.


Bill is it too much trouble to jumper pin 2 to pin 3 and use Hyperterm to at least prove the computers serial port works ?


Bill


Re: Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

Bill Bradford
 

Unfortunately, your right about the lack of knowledge in electronics retailers. When I bought the cables I had to tell the clerk what a serial cable was. He thought everything was USB.

I made sure to read the package to see that it said that it was a straight through serial DB 9 cable.

I tried to connect with a different cable today and still have the same problem. I am going to try to connect on a friend's 1200 to get a final determination on the computer and cables.

If I can connect on his mount, I will give you guys a call about next steps with my Control Panel.

Thanks to you guys for the support.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: Howard
To: ap-gto@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:03 AM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer


Reversing cables are also often configured male to female in terms of
the plugs on each end. There is often no way to tell by looking at the
cable which type you have. That is why we ended up offering the cables
on our website. It was too difficult and confusing for customers, and
the people at the computer store frequently don't have a clue that more
than one type of cable even exists.

Mag. 7 skies!

Howard Hedlund

Astro-Physics, Inc.

815-282-1513

________________________________

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] On Behalf
Of Bill Bradford
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:49 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

Hi Howard,

The cables are regular serial cables and are connected male to female.
They were not bought as a set. I used two 4 ft. cables just to get the
extra length.

But, I am going to get a single cable to replace them.

Thanks for the post.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: Howard
To: ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

Two reversing or null modem cables hooked together can effectively make
a single straight through cable. The cables would have only worked
when hooked together in tandem, and could not possibly work
individually. Having only one of the cables fail would then leave you
in a fatal situation. An easy test is to check continuity from each
numbered pin to its corresponding numbered hole at the other end of the
cable.

Mag. 7 skies!

Howard Hedlund

Astro-Physics, Inc.

815-282-1513

________________________________

From: ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Marj
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:37 PM
To: ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

Remember that the cables that you use MUST be the straight-thru type. We
now sell 15' cables for the convenience of our customers (so you don't
have to run all over town to find them).

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> ]On
Behalf Of Bill Bradford
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:27 PM
To: ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

I tried both com ports on the mount and I am using a native serial port
on my computer. I also tried to connect using another computer and had
the same error message.

My set up has two 4 ft long serial cables in series. So, tried each
cable separately to make sure that I did not have a cable failure. I
figured that it is highly unlikely for two cables to fail at the same
time.

I will be back from the dark site tonight and will call you guys
tomorrow or the next day about possible additional testing I can do. I
will do an echo test (as suggested by a group member) using Windows
HyperTerminal to totally rule out the computers and cables. Although, it
also seems unlikely that there would be a port problem on both
computers.

At the suggestion of another group member I also tried to connect using
PulseGuide vs. just The Sky. PulseGuide also gave the mount not
responding error message.

The good news is that I am better at using the hand controller now. :>)
Unlike my Tak mount, where the loss of computer control would seriously
limit my ability to get on faint targets for photography, using the AP
hand controller allowed me to image okay with just the additional time
necessary to enter RA and Dec for stars not in the controller's
catalogue. A small price for the ability to image as usual.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: chris1011@aol. <mailto:chris1011%40aol.com> com
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

In a message dated 7/5/2008 7:59:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
bcbradford@gmail. <mailto:bcbradford%40gmail.com> com writes:

> Last night I had connected my Mach1 (new...have had it for 6 weeks) to
The
> Sky, as I usually do, and was testing the connection by using the Move

> command in The Sky and everything was doing fine.
>
> However, after a minute or so of moving each mount axis, the mount
would no
> longer take any command to move it. I removed power from the mount for
15
> secs or so and tried to connect through The Sky and got an error
message
> saying that the AP GoTo was not responding.
>

There are two com ports. Did you try them both? Also, do you have a
computer
with a com port or are you using a USB-serial converter? If so, you
might
check your converter. The com ports on the mount servo are quite rugged,
and it
would not be logical for both of them to fail simultaneaously, in fact
they do
not fail very often at all. However, a converter can suddenly fail
without
reason.

Rolando

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Re: Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

Howard Hedlund
 

Reversing cables are also often configured male to female in terms of
the plugs on each end. There is often no way to tell by looking at the
cable which type you have. That is why we ended up offering the cables
on our website. It was too difficult and confusing for customers, and
the people at the computer store frequently don't have a clue that more
than one type of cable even exists.



Mag. 7 skies!



Howard Hedlund

Astro-Physics, Inc.

815-282-1513

________________________________

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] On Behalf
Of Bill Bradford
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:49 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer



Hi Howard,

The cables are regular serial cables and are connected male to female.
They were not bought as a set. I used two 4 ft. cables just to get the
extra length.

But, I am going to get a single cable to replace them.

Thanks for the post.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: Howard
To: ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

Two reversing or null modem cables hooked together can effectively make
a single straight through cable. The cables would have only worked
when hooked together in tandem, and could not possibly work
individually. Having only one of the cables fail would then leave you
in a fatal situation. An easy test is to check continuity from each
numbered pin to its corresponding numbered hole at the other end of the
cable.

Mag. 7 skies!

Howard Hedlund

Astro-Physics, Inc.

815-282-1513

________________________________

From: ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Marj
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:37 PM
To: ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

Remember that the cables that you use MUST be the straight-thru type. We
now sell 15' cables for the convenience of our customers (so you don't
have to run all over town to find them).

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> ]On
Behalf Of Bill Bradford
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:27 PM
To: ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

I tried both com ports on the mount and I am using a native serial port
on my computer. I also tried to connect using another computer and had
the same error message.

My set up has two 4 ft long serial cables in series. So, tried each
cable separately to make sure that I did not have a cable failure. I
figured that it is highly unlikely for two cables to fail at the same
time.

I will be back from the dark site tonight and will call you guys
tomorrow or the next day about possible additional testing I can do. I
will do an echo test (as suggested by a group member) using Windows
HyperTerminal to totally rule out the computers and cables. Although, it
also seems unlikely that there would be a port problem on both
computers.

At the suggestion of another group member I also tried to connect using
PulseGuide vs. just The Sky. PulseGuide also gave the mount not
responding error message.

The good news is that I am better at using the hand controller now. :>)
Unlike my Tak mount, where the loss of computer control would seriously
limit my ability to get on faint targets for photography, using the AP
hand controller allowed me to image okay with just the additional time
necessary to enter RA and Dec for stars not in the controller's
catalogue. A small price for the ability to image as usual.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: chris1011@aol. <mailto:chris1011%40aol.com> com
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

In a message dated 7/5/2008 7:59:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
bcbradford@gmail. <mailto:bcbradford%40gmail.com> com writes:

Last night I had connected my Mach1 (new...have had it for 6 weeks) to
The
Sky, as I usually do, and was testing the connection by using the Move
command in The Sky and everything was doing fine.

However, after a minute or so of moving each mount axis, the mount
would no
longer take any command to move it. I removed power from the mount for
15
secs or so and tried to connect through The Sky and got an error
message
saying that the AP GoTo was not responding.
There are two com ports. Did you try them both? Also, do you have a
computer
with a com port or are you using a USB-serial converter? If so, you
might
check your converter. The com ports on the mount servo are quite rugged,
and it
would not be logical for both of them to fail simultaneaously, in fact
they do
not fail very often at all. However, a converter can suddenly fail
without
reason.

Rolando

**************
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fuel-efficient used cars.
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<http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007>
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Re: Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

Bill Bradford
 

Hi Howard,

The cables are regular serial cables and are connected male to female. They were not bought as a set. I used two 4 ft. cables just to get the extra length.

But, I am going to get a single cable to replace them.

Thanks for the post.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: Howard
To: ap-gto@...
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer


Two reversing or null modem cables hooked together can effectively make
a single straight through cable. The cables would have only worked
when hooked together in tandem, and could not possibly work
individually. Having only one of the cables fail would then leave you
in a fatal situation. An easy test is to check continuity from each
numbered pin to its corresponding numbered hole at the other end of the
cable.

Mag. 7 skies!

Howard Hedlund

Astro-Physics, Inc.

815-282-1513

________________________________

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] On Behalf
Of Marj
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:37 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

Remember that the cables that you use MUST be the straight-thru type. We
now sell 15' cables for the convenience of our customers (so you don't
have to run all over town to find them).

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> ]On
Behalf Of Bill Bradford
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:27 PM
To: ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

I tried both com ports on the mount and I am using a native serial port
on my computer. I also tried to connect using another computer and had
the same error message.

My set up has two 4 ft long serial cables in series. So, tried each
cable separately to make sure that I did not have a cable failure. I
figured that it is highly unlikely for two cables to fail at the same
time.

I will be back from the dark site tonight and will call you guys
tomorrow or the next day about possible additional testing I can do. I
will do an echo test (as suggested by a group member) using Windows
HyperTerminal to totally rule out the computers and cables. Although, it
also seems unlikely that there would be a port problem on both
computers.

At the suggestion of another group member I also tried to connect using
PulseGuide vs. just The Sky. PulseGuide also gave the mount not
responding error message.

The good news is that I am better at using the hand controller now. :>)
Unlike my Tak mount, where the loss of computer control would seriously
limit my ability to get on faint targets for photography, using the AP
hand controller allowed me to image okay with just the additional time
necessary to enter RA and Dec for stars not in the controller's
catalogue. A small price for the ability to image as usual.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: chris1011@aol. <mailto:chris1011%40aol.com> com
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

In a message dated 7/5/2008 7:59:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
bcbradford@gmail. <mailto:bcbradford%40gmail.com> com writes:

> Last night I had connected my Mach1 (new...have had it for 6 weeks) to
The
> Sky, as I usually do, and was testing the connection by using the Move

> command in The Sky and everything was doing fine.
>
> However, after a minute or so of moving each mount axis, the mount
would no
> longer take any command to move it. I removed power from the mount for
15
> secs or so and tried to connect through The Sky and got an error
message
> saying that the AP GoTo was not responding.
>

There are two com ports. Did you try them both? Also, do you have a
computer
with a com port or are you using a USB-serial converter? If so, you
might
check your converter. The com ports on the mount servo are quite rugged,
and it
would not be logical for both of them to fail simultaneaously, in fact
they do
not fail very often at all. However, a converter can suddenly fail
without
reason.

Rolando

**************
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fuel-efficient used cars.
( http://autos. <http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007
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Re: Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

Bill Bradford
 

Thanks, Marj.

I have the two 4 ft. cables because my other choice was a single 25 foot cable. I bought them just before leaving to go imaging, so took what I could get at the time. But, that was several imaging sessions ago and I should have replaced them by now and will do so.

However, they have been working fine during multiple imaging sessions. I also tried them individually and still have the problem.

Thanks for the information.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: Marj
To: ap-gto@...
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:37 PM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer


Remember that the cables that you use MUST be the straight-thru type. We now sell 15' cables for the convenience of our customers (so you don't have to run all over town to find them).


Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]On Behalf Of Bill Bradford
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:27 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

I tried both com ports on the mount and I am using a native serial port on my computer. I also tried to connect using another computer and had the same error message.

My set up has two 4 ft long serial cables in series. So, tried each cable separately to make sure that I did not have a cable failure. I figured that it is highly unlikely for two cables to fail at the same time.

I will be back from the dark site tonight and will call you guys tomorrow or the next day about possible additional testing I can do. I will do an echo test (as suggested by a group member) using Windows HyperTerminal to totally rule out the computers and cables. Although, it also seems unlikely that there would be a port problem on both computers.

At the suggestion of another group member I also tried to connect using PulseGuide vs. just The Sky. PulseGuide also gave the mount not responding error message.

The good news is that I am better at using the hand controller now. :>) Unlike my Tak mount, where the loss of computer control would seriously limit my ability to get on faint targets for photography, using the AP hand controller allowed me to image okay with just the additional time necessary to enter RA and Dec for stars not in the controller's catalogue. A small price for the ability to image as usual.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: chris1011@aol. <mailto:chris1011%40aol.com> com
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

In a message dated 7/5/2008 7:59:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
bcbradford@gmail. <mailto:bcbradford%40gmail.com> com writes:

> Last night I had connected my Mach1 (new...have had it for 6 weeks) to The
> Sky, as I usually do, and was testing the connection by using the Move
> command in The Sky and everything was doing fine.
>
> However, after a minute or so of moving each mount axis, the mount would no
> longer take any command to move it. I removed power from the mount for 15
> secs or so and tried to connect through The Sky and got an error message
> saying that the AP GoTo was not responding.
>

There are two com ports. Did you try them both? Also, do you have a computer
with a com port or are you using a USB-serial converter? If so, you might
check your converter. The com ports on the mount servo are quite rugged, and it
would not be logical for both of them to fail simultaneaously, in fact they do
not fail very often at all. However, a converter can suddenly fail without
reason.

Rolando

**************
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fuel-efficient used cars.
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Re: Mount Will Not Connect To Computer

Bill Bradford
 

Hi Roland,

I feel like a real dunce because I was imaging with a person who had TWO 1200's set up 30 ft. from me last
night. Did not think of the obvious...too much linear thinking on my part. :>)

Regards,
Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: chris1011@...
To: ap-gto@...
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Will Not Connect To Computer


In a message dated 7/7/2008 4:27:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
bcbradford@... writes:

> I tried both com ports on the mount and I am using a native serial port on
> my computer.

If there is another AP mount in your area, you might try to see if your
computer will talk to it.

Rolando

**************
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