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Re: old ap900 gto mount

Roland Christen
 

We will keep supporting the 900 mount. We have parts and electronics for that mount (motors, bearings, gears etc).

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: vincent.visonneau <v.visonneau@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Jan 4, 2022 1:37 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] old ap900 gto mount

Hi

I would like to know is support is always on for an old mount (ap900gto,
bought in 1999, i was a young man !).

It always work very well like the first day, CP1 was replaced by a cp3
about 5 years ago, cable and battery of keypad too.

The question is i don't know if part are available for an eventual
troubleshooting...like motor broken or else?

Let me know.

Regards

Vincent from france







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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: old ap900 gto mount

Jeff B
 

There is always the CP4 upgrade, something I am considering.

Jeff

On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 3:15 PM Shawn Johnston <shawn.johnston@...> wrote:
Sorry if I'm hijacking the thread. I have a similar situation with an old AP900GTO. I just acquired a CP3 with the v2 chip for it. What other upgrades are available for these mounts?

Thanks in advance,

Shawn

On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 1:43 PM George <george@...> wrote:
Vincent,

Yes, we service all our mounts regardless of age.    Let me know if you have issues.

Regards,

George

George Whitney
Astro-Physics, Inc.
Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)
Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)
Email:  george@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of vincent.visonneau
Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 1:37 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] old ap900 gto mount

Hi

I would like to know is support is always on for an old mount (ap900gto, bought in 1999, i was a young man !).

It always work very well like the first day, CP1 was replaced by a cp3 about 5 years ago, cable and battery of keypad too.

The question is i don't know if part are available for an eventual troubleshooting...like motor broken or else?

Let me know.

Regards

Vincent from france













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Best regards,

Shawn L Johnston
shawn.johnston@...
USA +1 (701) 200-7974


Re: old ap900 gto mount

Shawn Johnston
 

Sorry if I'm hijacking the thread. I have a similar situation with an old AP900GTO. I just acquired a CP3 with the v2 chip for it. What other upgrades are available for these mounts?

Thanks in advance,

Shawn

On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 1:43 PM George <george@...> wrote:
Vincent,

Yes, we service all our mounts regardless of age.    Let me know if you have issues.

Regards,

George

George Whitney
Astro-Physics, Inc.
Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)
Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)
Email:  george@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of vincent.visonneau
Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 1:37 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] old ap900 gto mount

Hi

I would like to know is support is always on for an old mount (ap900gto, bought in 1999, i was a young man !).

It always work very well like the first day, CP1 was replaced by a cp3 about 5 years ago, cable and battery of keypad too.

The question is i don't know if part are available for an eventual troubleshooting...like motor broken or else?

Let me know.

Regards

Vincent from france













--
Best regards,

Shawn L Johnston
shawn.johnston@...
USA +1 (701) 200-7974


Re: AP1600 regreasing

George
 

Mike,

Do the motor boxes have release levers on the right hand side?

Regards,

George

George Whitney
Astro-Physics, Inc.
Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)
Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)
Email:  george@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of michael mccann via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 3, 2022 10:25 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP1600 regreasing

Lickity-split that grease kit is already here. I bought my AP1600 used. In the Greasing mounts instructions the last topic is : 1600GTO, 1100GTO, and Mach1GTO with Auto-Adjust Motor Boxes. How do I check to see if my mount has a Auto-Adjust Motor box?

Cheers
Mike


Re: old ap900 gto mount

George
 

Vincent,

Yes, we service all our mounts regardless of age. Let me know if you have issues.

Regards,

George

George Whitney
Astro-Physics, Inc.
Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)
Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)
Email:  george@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of vincent.visonneau
Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 1:37 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] old ap900 gto mount

Hi

I would like to know is support is always on for an old mount (ap900gto, bought in 1999, i was a young man !).

It always work very well like the first day, CP1 was replaced by a cp3 about 5 years ago, cable and battery of keypad too.

The question is i don't know if part are available for an eventual troubleshooting...like motor broken or else?

Let me know.

Regards

Vincent from france


old ap900 gto mount

vincent.visonneau
 

Hi

I would like to know is support is always on for an old mount (ap900gto, bought in 1999, i was a young man !).

It always work very well like the first day, CP1 was replaced by a cp3 about 5 years ago, cable and battery of keypad too.

The question is i don't know if part are available for an eventual troubleshooting...like motor broken or else?

Let me know.

Regards

Vincent from france


Re: #APPC / NINA Sequence of events for Road Warrior #appc

midmoastro
 

Thanks Linwood. I could have worded that better but I did not mean to imply being level is needed for polar alignment. The second part of that was really just to see if the carpenter level was needed as I just use the bubble level to get close as you mentioned. This might save a trip for David unless he has a reason to be in Park 4. Even then, maybe its not real critical though. I dont know as I always use Park 3.


Re: #APPC / NINA Sequence of events for Road Warrior #appc

ap@CaptivePhotons.com
 
Edited

On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 02:10 PM, midmoastro wrote:
For imaging you will need good polar alignment. Can you use the bubble level on the mount rather than a carpenter level?
Bear in mind polar alignment is not really affected by whether or not is level, other than significant errors in level will confuse instructions (like from Nina's TPPA) that says "move 2' down", in that "down" is now also slightly left or right.  But that's a pretty minor effect unless you are grossly unlevel.  But even if grossly unlevel, once aligned and sky sync'd (recal) it just doesn't matter.

I just get it grossly close with the bubble level, and use NINA's TPAA and work it until I'm at about half an arc minute or less (for guided the last few arc seconds are not that relevant, even if you do not build a model, and less so if you do). 

Then I sync (that becomes a recal) elsewhere in the sky at the same time I am calibrating PHD2 for the evening, and I'm done.

Pempro may be more accurate than NINA (or so I'm told), but NINA is plenty accurate, and Pempro still can't do my camera even binned and subframed.  And NINA takes me about 3 minutes max, whereas it looks like Pempro (from my few attempts that got part way) is a lot slower; my ADHD kicks in and I forget what I was trying to accomplish.  :) 

My normal workflow is: 

- Plop the tripod down in some holes I put in pavers, that gets me fairly close. 
- Very rough level just because
- Initialize from last position, which is Park 3. 
- Once dark enough, do an AF run (if needed) and TPPA
- Run a script that slews high near Dec 0 and set tonight's camera rotation (check via plate solve) and PHD2 calibration.  The plate solve also sync's (recal)
- Load my sequence for tonight's targets, as everything else is done.

If I wanted to, or was unguided, I would run a DEC-Arc between the last two steps, based on tonight's target using Dale/Ray's new stuff. 

Linwood


Re: #APPC / NINA Sequence of events for Road Warrior #appc

W Hilmo
 

Regarding the bubble level on the mount, it's not critical that the mount itself is level.

The carpenter's level is used to ensure that the position of each axis is correct before unparking.  To do this, you release the RA clutch and move the axis so that the counterweight shaft is on the west side (assuming northern hemisphere) and use the level to ensure it's parallel to the ground.  You then release the declination clutch and move the scope so that it's pointed south (assuming northern hemisphere) and use the level to ensure that it's parallel to the ground.  You can then unpark the mount from Park 4.  If the mount is well polar aligned, this may very well put your goto star into the field of view on the first try.

-Wade

On 1/4/22 11:10 AM, midmoastro wrote:
Hi David,

For imaging you will need good polar alignment. Can you use the bubble level on the mount rather than a carpenter level?
I do this when setting up and was thinking it might keep you from bringing one more item outside.
Here are my initial steps but there may be better/quicker ways:

Take mount out, assemble, and level with bubble level on mount.
Mount scope, guider, camera/accessories and balance (Park 3 position for me). Check level again.
Use RAPAS to get rough polar alignment (I have not calibrated my RAPAS yet).
Power on mount, start APCC. I manually connect the mount and the APv2 driver. HC is not needed if you dont want it although I started out using it.
Use Pempro, NINA's Three point polar align, Sharpcap, etc. to try and dial in the polar alignment. (I have only used SharpCap so far but want to move to Pempro)
Connect Stellarium or SkySafari.

After this you can perform your star sync or platesolve using Pempro or NINA to get accurate GoTos. (NINA and ASTAP and worked well when platesolving for me but I do want to try Pempro)
Once I am polar aligned and my GoTos are accurate, I go to my object and start autoguiding using NINA and PHD.
I am no expert here and its fairly new to me as well so others may have better ideas.
Todd


Re: APCC new install error

Larry Phillips
 

Todd, I have the same problem as you had before Christmas and am still waiting on a solution from Ray.  I am about ready to do what you did with a clean install of Win 11.  Any pointers you can give me would be appreciated.  I found where I can download a win 11 install file for a USB, but the process scares me.  My local PC repair will do it for me but for $130.  Any suggestions?

Larry


Re: #APPC / NINA Sequence of events for Road Warrior #appc

midmoastro
 

Hi David,

For imaging you will need good polar alignment. Can you use the bubble level on the mount rather than a carpenter level?
I do this when setting up and was thinking it might keep you from bringing one more item outside.
Here are my initial steps but there may be better/quicker ways:

Take mount out, assemble, and level with bubble level on mount.
Mount scope, guider, camera/accessories and balance (Park 3 position for me). Check level again.
Use RAPAS to get rough polar alignment (I have not calibrated my RAPAS yet).
Power on mount, start APCC. I manually connect the mount and the APv2 driver. HC is not needed if you dont want it although I started out using it.
Use Pempro, NINA's Three point polar align, Sharpcap, etc. to try and dial in the polar alignment. (I have only used SharpCap so far but want to move to Pempro)
Connect Stellarium or SkySafari.

After this you can perform your star sync or platesolve using Pempro or NINA to get accurate GoTos. (NINA and ASTAP and worked well when platesolving for me but I do want to try Pempro)
Once I am polar aligned and my GoTos are accurate, I go to my object and start autoguiding using NINA and PHD.
I am no expert here and its fairly new to me as well so others may have better ideas.
Todd


Re: Power supply question - Powerwerx SPS-30DM

ap@CaptivePhotons.com
 

Thanks, Christopher.  That connector is long gone, and to date no more issues.   I'm rearranging cables a lot, and so making a lot of powerpole connections.  Maybe I did it wrongly, but I think that receptor, or pin, was just bad.  They are really quite straightforward, especially with a good crimp tool.  The first few I also soldered, but I decided later the crimps were just fine without.

Your battery posting is timely though.  I tried a dark site for the first time, and took the SCT with a big dew heater (about 2.8A) plus two other small dew heaters and by 11pm I was getting low battery alerts from Pegasus. That was on a Group 27 FLA battery repurposed from my SUV.  Turns out the warning was premature (long story about bad pigtails for 5.5/2.1 here) but not by a whole lot, I was at a fairly steady 7-8A, which was surprisingly high.  Cost of imaging in a swamp I guess (literally, in the middle of the everglades). 

So I need to rethink my power.  At that draw, for our winter dry season with 12+ hours of run time, 100ah is just not enough.  Or marginally enough if I had LiFePO4 I guess and could run it dead.  It would be fine for the refractor (instead of 2.8A it's about .8A, so a net of about 24ah overnight difference), but in the FLA range I'm looking at two batteries (really three as I use a separate one for the AP1100, a small deep cycle), and for LiFePO4 I probably should buy at least in the 150ah range just not to cut it close. 

Which is a bit of a pain... I really do not mind the weight of the FLA (or SLA or even AGM) batteries, for my low usage the price can't be beat.  But having to do two ... maybe I need to switch and invest in a LiFePO4 solution. 

But.. .back to my power supply -- I'm becoming more confident I did not have a bad power supply, or even utility power issues, but rather a loose connection.  Maybe.  It's very hard to prove a negative though, but each night makes more more confident it was just a bad connector.   And trust me, I've now gone and tugged and twisted each other connector quite a bit to make sure it was just that one.

Linwood


Re: APCC PRO and Horizons

midmoastro
 

I need to read the documentation but when I did this recently, I just selected the download button, then in Horizons, just "Load" the file you just downloaded. That worked for me
Todd


Using APPM Model

Larry Phillips
 

Ray, given the problems I am having with APCC, I don't suppose that I can use my APPM model anyway.
Larry


Re: APCC Pro Latest Beta Version

Larry Phillips
 

Ray, I will await a message from you when they get back to you.

Larry


Re: APCC PRO and Horizons

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Philip,

Version 1.9.3.1 has an updated Horizons application and documentation:

https://www.apastrosoftware.com/apcc_download/APCC_Pro_Setup_1.9.3.1a.exe

Here is a link to the help section online (same as is installed with APCC)

https://www.apastrosoftware.com/help/apcc-pro/index.html?horizons.htm

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Philip B
Sent: Monday, January 3, 2022 11:11 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC PRO and Horizons

Hi all and happy new year...

Just a quickie hopefully. I have the Pro version of APCC and recently went to use the Horizons feature in order
to slew over to observe the JWST. The link within APCC takes you to the JPL Horizons Ephemeris page but I
noticed that the 6th option to save the results as plain text is no longer there.

I tried various ways to copy and paste the data into Horizons as plain text, including copying it from the
webpage into Notepad first, saving it as TXT in order to lose any formatting and then copying/pasting that
into Horizons. No matter what I did Horizons still kept on throwing out various error messages.

I'm sure there is a solution to this but until I find it, it seems I cannot currently use Horizons to control the
mount positioning.


Re: APCC Pro and a weird error #APCC #Mach2GTO

Ray Gralak
 

Any idea what it is about?
That can happen if the mount is not responding because it is disconnected or powered down with apcc and the driver still querying the mount.

The recommended shutdown procedure is:
1) Disconnect all ASCOM clients from the AP V2 driver.
2) Shut down APCC.
3) Power the mount down.

-Ray


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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marcelo Figueroa via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 3, 2022 11:00 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC Pro and a weird error #APCC #Mach2GTO

Last night at the end of the APCC Pro session (1.9.0.11) I was surprised with this error. The strange thing is
that the mount, a Mach2, worked fine all night and the session frames look perfectly normal.

Any idea what it is about?




Re: APCC Pro Error Message

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Emilio,

 

There’s not enough information to determine the problem. You should try updating to the latest driver version, v5.40.01.

 

If that doesn’t help, it could be that the settings file is corrupted. So, try renaming or deleting the driver’s settings file at this location:

 

C:\ProgramData\Astro-Physics\settings.apdb

 

-Ray

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Emilio J. Robau, P.E.
Sent: Monday, January 3, 2022 5:11 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC Pro Error Message

 

Hello Ray,

I wanted to note that for about the last three months or so I have been receiving the following error upon triggering the ASCOM driver within APCC.

Run Time Error 91

Object variable or with Block Variable not set.

 

Error opening the AP V2 Ascom Driver

Can not create active X component

I do the software equivalent of giggling the gears, kicking the device, or just kicking the tire to get things going.   Sometimes it seems to work fine.  Others I have to exit and enter the program delete and recreate the virtual ports.   Not a catastrophic issue but it is annoying.  Do you know what might be happening here?

Thanks in advance for a response.


Re: Question about APCC Pro beta and licensing #APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Can I install this version in parallel to 1.9.0.11, i.e. have both installed, or do I need to delete 1.9.0.11 first
Usually, you can install over the old version. The installer will tell you if you need to uninstall the existing APCC installation first from the Windows Control Panel.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marcelo Figueroa via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 3, 2022 4:59 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Question about APCC Pro beta and licensing

@Karen

Oh, my license is July 2020.


@Ray


Okay, thanks Ray. I will try it, as I use SGP.

Can I install this version in parallel to 1.9.0.11, i.e. have both installed, or do I need to delete 1.9.0.11 first


Re: APCC Pro Latest Beta Version

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Larry,

I would be open to that. As a reminder, I mentioned in a discussion before Christmas that I have reverted
back to an older version of APCC and the problem persists. This version was not a problem before I installed
and uninstalled the Beta.
It's unclear what's causing the issue. It may be a combination of hardware and a Windows update, for instance.

Would I need to be in attendance all the time during their accessing it?
I don't know. The issue has occurred in only a few computers, so it is not easily reproducible. Thus, I asked Eltima (twice) if they would be able to remote into a computer with this issue, but they have not answered that specific question.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Phillips
Sent: Monday, January 3, 2022 4:36 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC Pro Latest Beta Version

I would be open to that. As a reminder, I mentioned in a discussion before Christmas that I have reverted
back to an older version of APCC and the problem persists. This version was not a problem before I installed
and uninstalled the Beta. Would I need to be in attendance all the time during their accessing it?

Larry

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