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Messier 45 with Mach2 - Final Version

Dean Jacobsen
 

I posted a link to an early version of this weekend's target in the "Bad observing conditions!" thread.  I think I finally have the final version.

This was taken on some friends' property out in the Anza-Borrego Desert in San Diego County.

https://www.astrobin.com/1qyb67/D/

The newest generation of color cameras using the Sony BSI detectors sure do a good job IMHO.
--
Dean Jacobsen
Astrobin Image Gallery - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/


Re: APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited

Larry Phillips
 

Ray, since I didn't get a chance to send you my log zipper file before Konstantin did, do you still want it since it sounds like you have identified the problem?
Larry


Re: IC342 - The hidden Galaxy w/AP1200

Howard Ritter
 

Yes, it does. Almost all of the deep sky is now black.

On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:51 PM, Mike Dodd <mike@...> wrote:

On 12/5/2021 9:51 PM, Howard Ritter via groups.io wrote:
That’s a very nice capture, Mike, but on my screen it looks distinctly purplish. I don’t see that with other images. Does it look that way to you?
Howard, I raised the black point in the levels red channel. Does it look less purplish to you now? <http://astronomy.mdodd.com/galaxies-24.html>

--- Mike






Re: APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited

Ray Gralak
 

It looks like APCC is failing somewhere around the point where it is trying to create the Eltima virtual ports. The newest beta has an updated Eltima installer that may no longer support Windows 7.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Konstantin von Poschinger
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 8:54 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited

Hi Ray,

here is my Log zipper File.

Konstantin


Konstantin v. Poschinger

Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747
0171 1983476


Am 07.12.2021 um 17:21 schrieb Ray Gralak <iogroups@...>:

Larry,

> Do you want all three or the first or the last? The three sets are because I installed three times.

Please use the APCC Log Zipper utility. It will get all of the logs unless you manually deleted them.

If you can start and see APCC’s main window you can get to the “Log Zipper” utility from
APCC’s Tools menu. See this screenshot:

<image002.png>

If not, then Navigate to it using the Windows Start button.

Include all APCC Logs for one day as shown in this screenshot:

<image001.png>

-Ray


> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Phillips
> Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 7:55 AM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited
>
> Ray, there are three sets of logs since yesterday afternoon. And each have an addition file which is
only 3
> seconds different in time created. Do you want all three or the first or the last? The three sets are
because I
> installed three times.





Re: APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited

Konstantin von Poschinger
 

Hi Ray,

here is my Log zipper File.

Konstantin


Konstantin v. Poschinger

Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747
0171 1983476

Am 07.12.2021 um 17:21 schrieb Ray Gralak <iogroups@...>:

Larry,
 
> Do you want all three or the first or the last?  The three sets are because I installed three times.
 
Please use the APCC Log Zipper utility. It will get all of the logs unless you manually deleted them.
 
If you can start and see APCC’s main window you can get to the “Log Zipper” utility from APCC’s Tools menu. See this screenshot:
 
<image002.png>
 
If not, then Navigate to it using the Windows Start button.
 
Include all APCC Logs for one day as shown in this screenshot:
 
<image001.png>
 
-Ray
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Phillips
> Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 7:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited
> 
> Ray, there are three sets of logs since yesterday afternoon.  And each have an addition file which is only 3
> seconds different in time created.  Do you want all three or the first or the last?  The three sets are because I
> installed three times.



Re: Mach2 Error Messages

Konstantin von Poschinger
 

Hi Ray,

I forgot to mention that I have reinstalled the version APCC_Pro_BETA_Setup_1.9.1.5 and all went fine after that!

Konstantin

+
Konstantin v. Poschinger

Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747
0171 1983476

Am 07.12.2021 um 17:47 schrieb Konstantin von Poschinger <KPoschinger@...>:

Hi Ray,

I have the same problem with windows 7. After istalling and starting the program even with or without the mount connected, the program shows that it is starting and then I can not see the main window of APCC Pro. In the task I can see that the program is running but when I select the icon it show a short time the program window. But it is closing and I only see again the icon in the task line. In windows 10 all is fine!
I have tested all your mentions with deleting the setting file and the control key after starting the program!

Greetings

Konstantin


Konstantin v. Poschinger

Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747
0171 1983476

Am 07.12.2021 um 04:40 schrieb Ray Gralak <iogroups@...>:

I went back to v1.9.0.11 and now APCC works. Something about the beta that my computer does not like.
Larry, sorry, but I don't believe there is anything wrong with the beta or your computer. :-)

Did you check the APCC setting for saving the window positions? That was almost certainly the problem.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Phillips
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 7:16 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Error Messages

I went back to v1.9.0.11 and now APCC works. Something about the beta that my computer does not like.
Larry









Re: Mach2 Error Messages

Konstantin von Poschinger
 

Hi Ray,

I have the same problem with windows 7. After istalling and starting the program even with or without the mount connected, the program shows that it is starting and then I can not see the main window of APCC Pro. In the task I can see that the program is running but when I select the icon it show a short time the program window. But it is closing and I only see again the icon in the task line. In windows 10 all is fine!
I have tested all your mentions with deleting the setting file and the control key after starting the program!

Greetings

Konstantin


Konstantin v. Poschinger

Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747
0171 1983476

Am 07.12.2021 um 04:40 schrieb Ray Gralak <iogroups@...>:

I went back to v1.9.0.11 and now APCC works. Something about the beta that my computer does not like.
Larry, sorry, but I don't believe there is anything wrong with the beta or your computer. :-)

Did you check the APCC setting for saving the window positions? That was almost certainly the problem.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Phillips
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 7:16 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Error Messages

I went back to v1.9.0.11 and now APCC works. Something about the beta that my computer does not like.
Larry





Re: Mach2 Error Messages

Roland Christen
 

Yes, that indeed could cause the problem. Ray's new beta version eliminates these error glitches even ift he mount's clutches are not fully locked.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Terri Zittritsch <theresamarie11@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Dec 7, 2021 8:09 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Error Messages

"I have recently been getting error messages from the Mach2 while under automated unguided imaging regarding an "encoder error" or as in the case of the attached, "motor stall".  While I am not too concerned about getting the errors as none of them seems to affect the quality of my images,"

Larry, are your clutch knobs tight?    I found that I could not make them tight enough by hand when I have a bigger optical tube on the mount and need to use an allen wrench to lock them down just a smidge.    E.G. if the controller tells the mount to move and it doesn't move as much as the controller says, as measured by encoders, then you'll get this kind of warning.    I got these the first night I used the mach2, and since then always tighten the clutches just a little bit more than I can by finder and never see the issue again.

Just a though, may or may not be your issue.


Terri

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited

Ray Gralak
 

Larry,

 

> Do you want all three or the first or the last?  The three sets are because I installed three times.

 

Please use the APCC Log Zipper utility. It will get all of the logs unless you manually deleted them.

 

If you can start and see APCC’s main window you can get to the “Log Zipper” utility from APCC’s Tools menu. See this screenshot:

 

 

If not, then Navigate to it using the Windows Start button.

 

Include all APCC Logs for one day as shown in this screenshot:

 

 

-Ray

 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Phillips

> Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 7:55 AM

> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited

>

> Ray, there are three sets of logs since yesterday afternoon.  And each have an addition file which is only 3

> seconds different in time created.  Do you want all three or the first or the last?  The three sets are because I

> installed three times.


Re: APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited

Larry Phillips
 

Ray, there are three sets of logs since yesterday afternoon.  And each have an addition file which is only 3 seconds different in time created.  Do you want all three or the first or the last?  The three sets are because I installed three times.


Re: APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited

Ray Gralak
 

Larry,

Okay, but what I said still applies, I need to see your log files! :-)

Can you please use the APCC Log Zipper utility and include all APCC logs for the last day.

Thanks!

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Phillips
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 6:45 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited

Ray, perhaps I confused you by starting another thread. This is a continuation of the Mach2 Error Messages
thread and since we were no longer discussing the mount error messages, I created a new thread titled
appropriately. I gave some additional detail in message #83348 where I mentioned it is Win 7.

Larry


Re: Mach2 Error Messages

Terri Zittritsch
 

Hi Larry, Ray knows how to resolve the inability to resolve the inability to clear error messages.   On the errors themselves you may try tightening your clutch knobs.   If there is any slippage, the mount will report motor stalls.  I found I could not tighten them enough by hand, and tightened just a smidge by hex wrench results in no more motor stall errors.    Usually this only came when the mount is slewing either when initially slewing to a target or upon meridian flip.  

Terri


Re: APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited

Larry Phillips
 

Ray, perhaps I confused you by starting another thread.  This is a continuation of the Mach2 Error Messages thread and since we were no longer discussing the mount error messages, I created a new thread titled appropriately.  I gave some additional detail in message #83348 where I mentioned it is Win 7.

Larry


Re: M31 with A-P1100GTO-AE mount, TEC 160FL, FRC, and QHY600M-PH camera

Peter Nagy
 

I've been staring at both images all day and I think I like the original image better because it looks more natural. The original image has minimal processing and the second image is more over processed that negatively affected some parts of the image. Generally, I don't like to over process images.

Thanks for your opinions. 

Peter


Re: APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited

Ray Gralak
 

and I get the same behavior as yesterday.
Which is what, exactly? Please elaborate.

You can run the APCC log zipper utility separately and zip all of the logs for the last day and attach the zip file to a reply here. If the zip file is too big, you may need to provide a link to the file via DropBox, Google drive, etc.

BTW, are you running Windows 10, and are all updates applied?

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Phillips
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 6:24 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited

Ray, I then restarted APCC without holding down the CTRL key and I get the same behavior as yesterday.

Larry


Re: APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited

Larry Phillips
 

Ray, I then restarted APCC without holding down the CTRL key and I get the same behavior as yesterday.

Larry


APCC Beta Install Problem Revisited

Larry Phillips
 

Ray, I reinstalled the beta and held down the CTRL key while starting.  Now the icon appears in the task bar for a few seconds and then disappears.  Nothing else happens.  Checking the task manager shows APCC running.  This is very frustrating.

Larry


Re: Mach2 Error Messages

Larry Phillips
 

Terri, thanks for the info.  I will check it out.  It has been a year since I tighten them.  They could be a little loose.
Larry


Re: Mach2 Error Messages

Terri Zittritsch
 

"I have recently been getting error messages from the Mach2 while under automated unguided imaging regarding an "encoder error" or as in the case of the attached, "motor stall".  While I am not too concerned about getting the errors as none of them seems to affect the quality of my images,"

Larry, are your clutch knobs tight?    I found that I could not make them tight enough by hand when I have a bigger optical tube on the mount and need to use an allen wrench to lock them down just a smidge.    E.G. if the controller tells the mount to move and it doesn't move as much as the controller says, as measured by encoders, then you'll get this kind of warning.    I got these the first night I used the mach2, and since then always tighten the clutches just a little bit more than I can by finder and never see the issue again.

Just a though, may or may not be your issue.


Terri


Re: Mach2 Error Messages

Ray Gralak
 

Larry,

If you deleted the APCC settings file, that would remove the default of saving the window positions.

Both the beta and the last release version use EXACTLY the same code to launch the error log window, so there is virtually no chance that there is something in the beta that prevents the window from being opened. The only difference is that the error log window is now being forced to the top in the beta.

And, BTW, changes in the beta have been well tested, so it is safe to use. Before creating a general release build, I need to update the help in a few places and check with Dale that the API changes for NINA are working to his satisfaction.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Phillips
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 5:08 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Error Messages

Ray, I will reinstall the beta and try your suggestion. But if it is not enabled in the previous version, could it
somehow be enabled in the beta?

Larry

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