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Re: APCC to slew to target with cw-up position

drgert1
 

Hi Ray,

Thanks for the great pointers. I've already read the pages once, understood a little and hope additional reading will help.  

What's the canonical way to test this? I.e. what tool to issue a 'goto Antares' command to communicate through the chain of APCC  and driver (is the driver actually still in the chain in this case?) to the mount and then see it slew there into cw-up condition??

Thanks & Clear Skies, 
Gert 


Re: The APCC punched com12 into the driver how do I undo that?

Leon Fasano
 

Thanks again, all is good now!

On Aug 26, 2022, at 4:29 PM, Dale Ghent <daleg@...> wrote:



I'm a bit late to the thread due to getting back from a week of work travel. Thanks for posting the instructions, Sébastien.

Yes, the original Utilities for Astro-Physics Mounts plugin was superseded by the Astro-Physics Tools plugin during the NINA 1.11 (which then became 2.0) development cycle. All is well if you update NINA to at least 2.0 and install Astro-Physics Tools from NINA's plugin manager.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 10:07, Sébastien Doré <sebastiendore1@...> wrote:

Hi Leon,

From the snapshot you posted earlier, you are running NINA 2.0 Release Candidate 10 (which is old) with the AP Tools plugin version 0.4.0.0 (also not up to date) and as you noticed, both are not compatible.

There are newer versions of both available (which you should install) :

• NINA 2.0 (official release, not RC) which can be downloaded here (first download button for the stable official release): https://nighttime-imaging.eu/download/
<Outlook-rz4q3ljk.png>

and
• Astro-Physics Tools version 1.0.0.0 which you can then update as usual by going to Plugins -> Installed, and then selecting "Astro-Physics Tools" and clicking on the Update button at the top right (where mine says "Uninstall" in the snapshot below).
<image.png>

Also, if you have other questions regarding NINA and plugins, you can also ask people on their Discord by joining here: http://discord.gg/fwpmHU4. You'll benefit from developpers themselves and users that are all actually using NINA with some also using Dale's A-P Tools plugin, so that might increase your chances of getting answers fast.

Sébastien

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Envoyé : 26 août 2022 06:51
À : main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Objet : Re: [ap-gto] The APCC punched com12 into the driver how do I undo that?

Yes I had a specific question , the plug in by dale according to the pic I sent has to be updated to 5.0.0.0, it is currently 4.0.0.0, just trying to know who does the AP plug in update as the updated nina will not accept the 4.0.0.0 version. I don’t know that anyone is aware of this


On Aug 25, 2022, at 9:29 PM, Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:

Leon

Don't know if you've already seen this page
https://daleghent.com/nina-and-astro-physics-mounts

afaik it hasn't had any changes for a few months now

or did you have specific questions on its function?

On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 7:15 PM Leon Fasano via groups.io <lftscope@...> wrote:
Ray, sorry to interrupt , but do you know anything about AP TO NINA plug in updates?


--
Brian



Brian Valente
astro portfolio https://www.brianvalentephotography.com/astrophotography/
portfolio brianvalentephotography.com
astrobin https://www.astrobin.com/users/bvalente/





Re: The APCC punched com12 into the driver how do I undo that?

Dale Ghent
 

I'm a bit late to the thread due to getting back from a week of work travel. Thanks for posting the instructions, Sébastien.

Yes, the original Utilities for Astro-Physics Mounts plugin was superseded by the Astro-Physics Tools plugin during the NINA 1.11 (which then became 2.0) development cycle. All is well if you update NINA to at least 2.0 and install Astro-Physics Tools from NINA's plugin manager.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 10:07, Sébastien Doré <sebastiendore1@...> wrote:

Hi Leon,

From the snapshot you posted earlier, you are running NINA 2.0 Release Candidate 10 (which is old) with the AP Tools plugin version 0.4.0.0 (also not up to date) and as you noticed, both are not compatible.

There are newer versions of both available (which you should install) :

• NINA 2.0 (official release, not RC) which can be downloaded here (first download button for the stable official release): https://nighttime-imaging.eu/download/
<Outlook-rz4q3ljk.png>

and
• Astro-Physics Tools version 1.0.0.0 which you can then update as usual by going to Plugins -> Installed, and then selecting "Astro-Physics Tools" and clicking on the Update button at the top right (where mine says "Uninstall" in the snapshot below).
<image.png>

Also, if you have other questions regarding NINA and plugins, you can also ask people on their Discord by joining here: http://discord.gg/fwpmHU4. You'll benefit from developpers themselves and users that are all actually using NINA with some also using Dale's A-P Tools plugin, so that might increase your chances of getting answers fast.

Sébastien

De : main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> de la part de Leon Fasano via groups.io <lftscope@...>
Envoyé : 26 août 2022 06:51
À : main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Objet : Re: [ap-gto] The APCC punched com12 into the driver how do I undo that?

Yes I had a specific question , the plug in by dale according to the pic I sent has to be updated to 5.0.0.0, it is currently 4.0.0.0, just trying to know who does the AP plug in update as the updated nina will not accept the 4.0.0.0 version. I don’t know that anyone is aware of this


On Aug 25, 2022, at 9:29 PM, Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:


Leon

Don't know if you've already seen this page
https://daleghent.com/nina-and-astro-physics-mounts

afaik it hasn't had any changes for a few months now

or did you have specific questions on its function?

On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 7:15 PM Leon Fasano via groups.io <lftscope@...> wrote:
Ray, sorry to interrupt , but do you know anything about AP TO NINA plug in updates?


--
Brian



Brian Valente
astro portfolio https://www.brianvalentephotography.com/astrophotography/
portfolio brianvalentephotography.com
astrobin https://www.astrobin.com/users/bvalente/


Re: The APCC punched com12 into the driver how do I undo that?

drgert1
 

Hi Ray,

This whole setup, can it be done on the laptop, only? If not maybe there is a need for some AP mount simulator? So people can do laptop-only testing without setting up the mount.


On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 07:02 PM, Ray Gralak wrote:
So, please try it again and follow these directions exactly:

1. Do not run APCC after configuring the driver.
2. Run the setup, change the COM port and uncheck "APCC virtual port".
3. Run the AP Jog application to ensure you are not running "as administrator"
4. Connect to the mount via AP Jog.

-Ray
Thanks,
Gert


Re: Galactic field in Lacerta

Roland Christen
 

Yes indeed, quite nice.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan_Paris <danysra@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2022 7:26 am
Subject: [ap-gto] Galactic field in Lacerta

Hi everyone,

this small constellation at the edge of the Milky Way is seldom visited, nonetheless it contains many interesting objects, including small but beautiful galaxies and lot of IFN.

Here is a field containing the barred spiral galaxy NGC 7223 interacting with the elliptical galaxy PGC 214803, as well as the spiral galaxies UGC 11919 and UGC 11927 and many others.

I took this picture with my 8" Newtonian astrograph on an AP900 from my light-polluted backyard in Paris suburbs.

Thanks to rather favorable seeing conditions and to the good tracking performance of  the mount, I managed to extract interesting details from these small objects (NGC 7223 is 1,4′ × 1,1′ only), even with my 750mm focal length (2.1" FWHM after stacking).

Here is a link to the un-cropped and full-resolution image, with some IFNs in the upper part :

http://www.astrosurf...074c0da2b17.jpg

Thanks for looking and clear skies,

Dan

Technical data
200/800 custom Newtonian astrograph with Romano Zen optics and carbon fiber tube
AP900 CP4 mount on Losmandy HD tripod
TS 2.5" Riccardi-Wynne corrector
ASI183mm
ZWO LRGB filters
Guiding : ZWO OAG + ASI120mm mini + AsiairV1
Luminance : 180 *60sec at -10°C
Chrominance : 30*60sec at -10°C each channel
Darks, flats and synthetic biases
Conditions : Bortle 7/8 skies in Paris' suburbs (20km from the Eiffel tower), moderate seeing, some clouds
Preprocessing and stacking with Siril, processing with Pixinsight and Rawtherapee

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: The APCC punched com12 into the driver how do I undo that?

 

oh great to hear - sorry i was late to the party there ;)


On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 7:56 AM Leon Fasano via groups.io <lftscope=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I was able to follow your instructions successfully and i very much appreciate it. Thank you.   Although i had installed Nina v2.0.0.9001 back in June, I thought it was fully up to date, I checked the version i just installed per your instructions and it was the same version so i am not sure if there were any other indicators suggesting my older download was not up to date but it doesn't matter now, all plug ins now were updated and all work, so thank you!!

 


On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 09:21:51 PM CDT, Ray Gralak <iogroups@...> wrote:


> Ray, sorry to interrupt , but do you know anything about AP TO NINA plug in updates?

That is Dale's plugin. If he is online maybe he will answer here, but you might try the NINA discourse channel.

-Ray










Re: The APCC punched com12 into the driver how do I undo that?

 

Dale wrote and supplied the plug-in,

if there's an update, it should be update-able via the NINA plugins page in NINA



On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 3:51 AM Leon Fasano via groups.io <lftscope=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Yes I had a specific question , the plug in by dale according to the pic I sent has to be  updated to 5.0.0.0, it is currently 4.0.0.0, just trying to know who does the AP plug in update as the updated nina will not accept the 4.0.0.0 version. I don’t know that anyone is aware of this


On Aug 25, 2022, at 9:29 PM, Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:


Leon

Don't know if you've already seen this page

afaik it hasn't had any changes for a few months now

or did you have specific questions on its function?

On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 7:15 PM Leon Fasano via groups.io <lftscope=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Ray, sorry to interrupt , but do you know anything about AP TO NINA plug in updates?
> On Aug 25, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Ray Gralak <iogroups@...> wrote:
>
> 
>>
>> I then started the connection at the driver started but failed to connect as it wanted to use com12.
>
> Then you probably did one of the following:
>
> 1) Didn't save the settings by clicking the "OK" button in the driver setup.
> 2) Didn't uncheck the "APCC Virtual Port" checkbox.
> 3) Ran APCC afterward, which reset the port.
> 4) Configured the driver and then started the driver via an application run "as administrator". They each (administrator and user) instances of the AP V2 driver have their own port number.
>
> So, please try it again and follow these directions exactly:
>
> 1. Do not run APCC after configuring the driver.
> 2. Run the setup, change the COM port and uncheck "APCC virtual port".
> 3. Run the AP Jog application to ensure you are not running "as administrator"
> 4. Connect to the mount via AP Jog.
>
> -Ray
>
>
>
>
>
>







--




Re: The APCC punched com12 into the driver how do I undo that?

Sébastien Doré
 

Happy to help! 🙂
Sébastien

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Envoyé : 26 août 2022 10:56
À : main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Objet : Re: [ap-gto] The APCC punched com12 into the driver how do I undo that?
 
I was able to follow your instructions successfully and i very much appreciate it. Thank you.   Although i had installed Nina v2.0.0.9001 back in June, I thought it was fully up to date, I checked the version i just installed per your instructions and it was the same version so i am not sure if there were any other indicators suggesting my older download was not up to date but it doesn't matter now, all plug ins now were updated and all work, so thank you!!

 


On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 09:21:51 PM CDT, Ray Gralak <iogroups@...> wrote:


> Ray, sorry to interrupt , but do you know anything about AP TO NINA plug in updates?

That is Dale's plugin. If he is online maybe he will answer here, but you might try the NINA discourse channel.

-Ray








Re: The APCC punched com12 into the driver how do I undo that?

Leon Fasano
 

I was able to follow your instructions successfully and i very much appreciate it. Thank you.   Although i had installed Nina v2.0.0.9001 back in June, I thought it was fully up to date, I checked the version i just installed per your instructions and it was the same version so i am not sure if there were any other indicators suggesting my older download was not up to date but it doesn't matter now, all plug ins now were updated and all work, so thank you!!

 


On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 09:21:51 PM CDT, Ray Gralak <iogroups@...> wrote:


> Ray, sorry to interrupt , but do you know anything about AP TO NINA plug in updates?

That is Dale's plugin. If he is online maybe he will answer here, but you might try the NINA discourse channel.

-Ray








Re: The APCC punched com12 into the driver how do I undo that?

Sébastien Doré
 

Hi Leon,

From the snapshot you posted earlier, you are running NINA 2.0 Release Candidate 10 (which is old) with the AP Tools plugin version 0.4.0.0 (also not up to date) and as you noticed, both are not compatible. 

There are newer versions of both available (which you should install) :



and 
  • Astro-Physics Tools version 1.0.0.0 which you can then update as usual by going to Plugins -> Installed, and then selecting "Astro-Physics Tools" and clicking on the Update button at the top right (where mine says "Uninstall" in the snapshot below).


Also, if you have other questions regarding NINA and plugins, you can also ask people on their Discord by joining here: http://discord.gg/fwpmHU4. You'll benefit from developpers themselves and users that are all actually using NINA with some also using Dale's A-P Tools plugin, so that might increase your chances of getting answers fast.

Sébastien


De : main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> de la part de Leon Fasano via groups.io <lftscope@...>
Envoyé : 26 août 2022 06:51
À : main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Objet : Re: [ap-gto] The APCC punched com12 into the driver how do I undo that?
 
Yes I had a specific question , the plug in by dale according to the pic I sent has to be  updated to 5.0.0.0, it is currently 4.0.0.0, just trying to know who does the AP plug in update as the updated nina will not accept the 4.0.0.0 version. I don’t know that anyone is aware of this


On Aug 25, 2022, at 9:29 PM, Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:


Leon

Don't know if you've already seen this page

afaik it hasn't had any changes for a few months now

or did you have specific questions on its function?

On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 7:15 PM Leon Fasano via groups.io <lftscope=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Ray, sorry to interrupt , but do you know anything about AP TO NINA plug in updates?


--


Re: Galactic field in Lacerta

Dean Jacobsen
 

Very nice Dan.  Looking forward to more.
--
Dean Jacobsen
Astrobin Image Gallery - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/


Re: Galactic field in Lacerta

Karen Christen
 

Wow that’s gorgeous, Dan.

Karen

AP

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan_Paris
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 7:26 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Galactic field in Lacerta

 

Hi everyone,

this small constellation at the edge of the Milky Way is seldom visited, nonetheless it contains many interesting objects, including small but beautiful galaxies and lot of IFN.

Here is a field containing the barred spiral galaxy NGC 7223 interacting with the elliptical galaxy PGC 214803, as well as the spiral galaxies UGC 11919 and UGC 11927 and many others.

I took this picture with my 8" Newtonian astrograph on an AP900 from my light-polluted backyard in Paris suburbs.

Thanks to rather favorable seeing conditions and to the good tracking performance of  the mount, I managed to extract interesting details from these small objects (NGC 7223 is 1,4′ × 1,1′ only), even with my 750mm focal length (2.1" FWHM after stacking).

Here is a link to the un-cropped and full-resolution image, with some IFNs in the upper part :

http://www.astrosurf...074c0da2b17.jpg

Thanks for looking and clear skies,

Dan

Technical data
200/800 custom Newtonian astrograph with Romano Zen optics and carbon fiber tube
AP900 CP4 mount on Losmandy HD tripod
TS 2.5" Riccardi-Wynne corrector
ASI183mm
ZWO LRGB filters
Guiding : ZWO OAG + ASI120mm mini + AsiairV1
Luminance : 180 *60sec at -10°C
Chrominance : 30*60sec at -10°C each channel
Darks, flats and synthetic biases
Conditions : Bortle 7/8 skies in Paris' suburbs (20km from the Eiffel tower), moderate seeing, some clouds
Preprocessing and stacking with Siril, processing with Pixinsight and Rawtherapee


--
Karen Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Galactic field in Lacerta

Howard Ritter
 

That’s a beautiful field, Dan, and a very impressive result from 8 inches and 8 Bortles!

As a newbie to post-processing (and a Mac user), I’d be interested to know why you do stacking in Siril when you obviously know your way around PI.

—howard

Ps. Which suburb do you live in? My wife’s sister (American) and her German husband have lived for most of their lives in Boulogne-Billancourt, though that’s Paris per se and not a suburb, if I recall correctly.

On Aug 26, 2022, at 8:26 AM, Dan_Paris <danysra@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

this small constellation at the edge of the Milky Way is seldom visited, nonetheless it contains many interesting objects, including small but beautiful galaxies and lot of IFN.

Here is a field containing the barred spiral galaxy NGC 7223 interacting with the elliptical galaxy PGC 214803, as well as the spiral galaxies UGC 11919 and UGC 11927 and many others.

I took this picture with my 8" Newtonian astrograph on an AP900 from my light-polluted backyard in Paris suburbs.

Thanks to rather favorable seeing conditions and to the good tracking performance of  the mount, I managed to extract interesting details from these small objects (NGC 7223 is 1,4′ × 1,1′ only), even with my 750mm focal length (2.1" FWHM after stacking).

Here is a link to the un-cropped and full-resolution image, with some IFNs in the upper part :

http://www.astrosurf...074c0da2b17.jpg

Thanks for looking and clear skies,

Dan


Galactic field in Lacerta

Dan_Paris
 

Hi everyone,

this small constellation at the edge of the Milky Way is seldom visited, nonetheless it contains many interesting objects, including small but beautiful galaxies and lot of IFN.

Here is a field containing the barred spiral galaxy NGC 7223 interacting with the elliptical galaxy PGC 214803, as well as the spiral galaxies UGC 11919 and UGC 11927 and many others.

I took this picture with my 8" Newtonian astrograph on an AP900 from my light-polluted backyard in Paris suburbs.

Thanks to rather favorable seeing conditions and to the good tracking performance of  the mount, I managed to extract interesting details from these small objects (NGC 7223 is 1,4′ × 1,1′ only), even with my 750mm focal length (2.1" FWHM after stacking).

Here is a link to the un-cropped and full-resolution image, with some IFNs in the upper part :

http://www.astrosurf...074c0da2b17.jpg

Thanks for looking and clear skies,

Dan

Technical data
200/800 custom Newtonian astrograph with Romano Zen optics and carbon fiber tube
AP900 CP4 mount on Losmandy HD tripod
TS 2.5" Riccardi-Wynne corrector
ASI183mm
ZWO LRGB filters
Guiding : ZWO OAG + ASI120mm mini + AsiairV1
Luminance : 180 *60sec at -10°C
Chrominance : 30*60sec at -10°C each channel
Darks, flats and synthetic biases
Conditions : Bortle 7/8 skies in Paris' suburbs (20km from the Eiffel tower), moderate seeing, some clouds
Preprocessing and stacking with Siril, processing with Pixinsight and Rawtherapee


Re: The APCC punched com12 into the driver how do I undo that?

Leon Fasano
 

Yes I had a specific question , the plug in by dale according to the pic I sent has to be  updated to 5.0.0.0, it is currently 4.0.0.0, just trying to know who does the AP plug in update as the updated nina will not accept the 4.0.0.0 version. I don’t know that anyone is aware of this


On Aug 25, 2022, at 9:29 PM, Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:


Leon

Don't know if you've already seen this page

afaik it hasn't had any changes for a few months now

or did you have specific questions on its function?

On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 7:15 PM Leon Fasano via groups.io <lftscope=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Ray, sorry to interrupt , but do you know anything about AP TO NINA plug in updates?
> On Aug 25, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Ray Gralak <iogroups@...> wrote:
>
> 
>>
>> I then started the connection at the driver started but failed to connect as it wanted to use com12.
>
> Then you probably did one of the following:
>
> 1) Didn't save the settings by clicking the "OK" button in the driver setup.
> 2) Didn't uncheck the "APCC Virtual Port" checkbox.
> 3) Ran APCC afterward, which reset the port.
> 4) Configured the driver and then started the driver via an application run "as administrator". They each (administrator and user) instances of the AP V2 driver have their own port number.
>
> So, please try it again and follow these directions exactly:
>
> 1. Do not run APCC after configuring the driver.
> 2. Run the setup, change the COM port and uncheck "APCC virtual port".
> 3. Run the AP Jog application to ensure you are not running "as administrator"
> 4. Connect to the mount via AP Jog.
>
> -Ray
>
>
>
>
>
>







--


Re: Tripod for 1100GTO

fernandorivera3
 

AP 8" portable pier, ATS 8", Rob Miller Tri36M, PWT Pinnacle, Parallax Instruments, Losmandy, etc will work with 1100 GTO. Just need the correct adapter on top. 

Fernando


Re: APCC to slew to target with cw-up position

Ray Gralak
 

You can find that setting on the meridian limits tab. Please read the help file for more information. There are also some videos available but I don’t have the links handy. Please try using a web search.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of drgert1 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2022 10:06 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC to slew to target with cw-up position

Hello All,

In the wonderful AP handbox there is a setting to shift the meridian east or west. This great option allows me to
slew to a target in cw-up condition.
How can I do the same in APCC? I.e. I've looked through the boxes and settings names at the various APCC tabs
but couldn't find anything like "Meridian Offset".
Let's assume I really really want that, and think that I really really know what I'm doing.




Thanks & Clear Skies,
Gert


Re: APCC does not allow me to delete unwanted virtual port

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Gert,

There are two ports for a reason. When an application that has been run "as administrator" invokes the driver it will start a completely separate instance of the ASCOM driver than an application run as a normal user. Mixing applications run as administrator and not can thus invoke two instances of a driver, thus the need for two virtual ports. Using APCC as a serial port hub the two ASCOM driver instances can be active simultaneously controlling the same mount, each using its own virtual COM port. I believe because of APCC's serial port hub APCC, the AP V2 driver is the only ASCOM driver that can do this.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
Hi Ray,

Thanks for checking my screencapture (with eagle eyes) and finding the setting. Looking in the docs they say that
it is recommended to leave this box checked.

But why two virtual ports. It was my effort to simplify handling these virtual ports as much as possible and I was
thinking that one port is enough.

Under the premise that APCC always want two virtual com ports then I can understand it's behavior upon me
deleting com3 which was the second port it upon restart created it at the lowest free number (com3) again to get
back to the desired two ports. But why two?

Anyway thanks for clarifying.

Cheers,
Gert


APCC to slew to target with cw-up position

drgert1
 

Hello All,

In the wonderful AP handbox there is a setting to shift the meridian east or west. This great option allows me to slew to a target in cw-up condition.
How can I do the same in APCC? I.e. I've looked through the boxes and settings names at the various APCC tabs but couldn't find anything like "Meridian Offset".
Let's assume I really really want that, and think that I really really know what I'm doing.




Thanks & Clear Skies,
Gert


Re: APCC does not allow me to delete unwanted virtual port

drgert1
 

Hi Ray,

Thanks for checking my screencapture (with eagle eyes) and finding the setting. Looking in the docs they say that it is recommended to leave this box checked.

But why two virtual ports. It was my effort to simplify handling these virtual ports as much as possible and I was thinking that one port is enough.

Under the premise that APCC always want two virtual com ports then I can understand it's behavior upon me deleting com3 which was the second port it upon restart created it at the lowest free number (com3) again to get back to the desired two ports. But why two?

Anyway thanks for clarifying.

Cheers,
Gert