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Re: PEMPro V2 to V3 Free Upgrade request for users with AP's PEMPro V2 licenses

Joe Zeglinski
 

Ray,
 
    You are more than generous and professional ... as always.
 
Joe Z.
 
From: 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 12:14 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: PEMPro V2 to V3 Free Upgrade request for users with AP's PEMPro V2 licenses
 
Hi Greg,

Alex was asking about a CCDWare upgrade purchase, not the free upgrade for AP mount owners with a V2 license. There are no special security requirements with the CCDWare version because the licenses have user names on them. .

The AP PEMPro licenses were meant to be kept with the mount if it is sold, but there many cases where that didn’t happen.  And because the licenses are anonymous and not assigned by mount it was impossible to give the new owner a license that the previous owner had lost. So, we had to implement a change.

You probably don’t know this but we are extending the free upgrade request to *all* AP PEMPro V2 licenses going back 10 years and allowing for up to 5 copies of V3 simultaneously installed and used. Of course you don’t have to participate in the free upgrade if you think the security restrictions are too much.

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro:  http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
Re: FW: Amateur Astronomers Photograph Tesla Roadster in Space

Joe Zeglinski
 

Marj,
 
    Today, I was just thinking about that marvellous accomplishment ... and he hasn’t even gotten  to the Moon yet.
Then again, Elon missed the chance to put an AP-3200 and AP scope on board, for his dummy astronaut to view Earth from near Jupiter ;-)
    ... next one ... Marj?
 
Question for Elon Musk: – Regarding the Roadster – how many “Parsecs to the Coulomb in the battery”,  does that roadster get ???   :-)
 
    Will probably beat all mileage records by the time it reaches the Asteroid belt.
Also, wouldn’t it be strange if some “SpaceX employee”  stowed away on the roadster, just to be the first to reach Mars?
 
    That would probably be shushed up, because of the competition and government/corporate funding opportunities to be “THE first”.
 
    Would make for an interesting “SciFi movie plot thriller”, though.
Maybe THEY, out there,  will return the old roadster some day ... with their upgraded technology “Di-Lithium Crystal Battery”  model :-)
 
Joe Z.
 
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Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 11:33 AM
To: 'ap-ug@...' ; ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] FW: Amateur Astronomers Photograph Tesla Roadster in Space
 

Friends,

I would like to issue a challenge to anyone with clear skies tonight. Who can capture an image of the Tesla Roadster in space? See the info from Space Weather below. There was an image, but I had to delete it, so you will have to go to their site.

 

Good luck! Snow here today, so no chance for us.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

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Elon Musk's cherry red Roadster has been spotted 430,000 km from Earth heading toward the orbit of Mars.

Space Weather News for Feb. 9, 2018
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Re: PEMPro V2 to V3 Free Upgrade request for users with AP's PEMPro V2 licenses

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Greg,

Alex was asking about a CCDWare upgrade purchase, not the free upgrade for AP mount owners with a V2 license. There are no special security requirements with the CCDWare version because the licenses have user names on them. .

The AP PEMPro licenses were meant to be kept with the mount if it is sold, but there many cases where that didn’t happen. And because the licenses are anonymous and not assigned by mount it was impossible to give the new owner a license that the previous owner had lost. So, we had to implement a change.

You probably don’t know this but we are extending the free upgrade request to *all* AP PEMPro V2 licenses going back 10 years and allowing for up to 5 copies of V3 simultaneously installed and used. Of course you don’t have to participate in the free upgrade if you think the security restrictions are too much.

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: PEMPro V2 to V3 Free Upgrade request for users with
AP's PEMPro V2 licenses



So I guess I am confused. I received a free upgrade to download V3 offer in a post
earlier. I though it was an update.he


But once again as usual, PemPro requires far too much to continue with upgrades. I
don't get it, everything PemPro and MaxumDL requires an amazing amount of
security just to use the program.

I have grown tired of listening to this conversation about yet another complicated
security requirement. NO other program I use and have used for the last 40+ years
has ever required so much security hoop jumping.

Sorry for the rant. I woke up this morning just to see 10 more forum posts about this
topic and apparently I have had enough with the complex nature of obtaining the next
version of PemPro. I find all of this security to register the program is rediculous, and
for me at this time, I am not willing to put up with it anymore.

This should have been a simple upgrade, but for some reason it needs to be far
more complicated. EOR.

Gregory Gig Harbor, WA.






On 2/9/2018 7:17 AM, Mike C mike@... [ap-gto] wrote:



If you click the buy link on the CCDWARE page and scroll down, do you see
a green barred section called upgrades?

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 5:45 AM, a.w.colburn@... [ap-gto] <ap-
gto@...> wrote:




Hi Ray,


I've used Pempro since V1 and currently have a V2 upgrade licence.
Having downloaded V3 and installed it, the licence window tells me I am eligible for a
V3 upgrade licence but when I click the purchase licence button it takes me to a
window that only allows me to buy a full V3 licence. Am I missing something?

Regards, Alex
Re: PEMPro V2 to V3 Free Upgrade request for users with AP's PEMPro V2 licenses

Gregory <fyrframe@...>
 

You are right Rolando, my apologies.

I wasn't addressing any concerns from AP, but it's forum seems to be the place these conversations are held, and the author of the program spends a very large amount of time addressing concerns on this forum. And these conversations are being held here, I don't find these conversations anywhere else.

So to me, it seemed this was indeed the place to start a discussion about a program which is also supported by AP.

But, I don't want to upset any of the administration at AP, so End Of Rant.

Gregory Gig Harbor, WA.


On 2/9/2018 8:44 AM, chris1011@... [ap-gto] wrote:

 

I understand your concerns, but PEMPro is not an Astro-Physics program. It belongs to and sold by CCDware and is universal for all mounts, not just the AP mounts. Please direct your concerns to that company. Astro-Physics has nothing to do with either MaximDL or CCDware except how it can be used with our mounts for imaging and alignment.

Rolando




-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory fyrframe@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Fri, Feb 9, 2018 10:28 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: PEMPro V2 to V3 Free Upgrade request for users with AP's PEMPro V2 licenses



So I guess I am confused. I received a free upgrade to download V3 offer in a post earlier. I though it was an update.
But once again as usual, PemPro requires far too much to continue with upgrades. I don't get it, everything PemPro and MaxumDL requires an amazing amount of security just to use the program.
I have grown tired of listening to this conversation about yet another complicated security requirement. NO other program I use and have used for the last 40+ years has ever required so much security hoop jumping.
Sorry for the rant. I woke up this morning just to see 10 more forum posts about this topic and apparently I have had enough with the complex nature of obtaining the next version of PemPro. I find all of this security to register the program is rediculous, and for me at this time, I am not willing to put up with it anymore.
This should have been a simple upgrade, but for some reason it needs to be far more complicated. EOR.
Gregory Gig Harbor, WA.


On 2/9/2018 7:17 AM, Mike C mike@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 
If you click the buy link on the CCDWARE page and scroll down, do you see a green barred section called upgrades?

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 5:45 AM, a.w.colburn@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 
Hi Ray,

I've used Pempro since V1 and currently have a V2 upgrade licence. Having downloaded V3 and installed it, the licence window tells me I am eligible for a V3 upgrade licence but when I click the purchase licence button it takes me to a window that only allows me to buy a full V3 licence. Am I missing something?

Regards, Alex

Re: PEMPro V2 to V3 Free Upgrade request for users with AP's PEMPro V2 licenses

Roland Christen
 

I understand your concerns, but PEMPro is not an Astro-Physics program. It belongs to and sold by CCDware and is universal for all mounts, not just the AP mounts. Please direct your concerns to that company. Astro-Physics has nothing to do with either MaximDL or CCDware except how it can be used with our mounts for imaging and alignment.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory fyrframe@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Fri, Feb 9, 2018 10:28 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: PEMPro V2 to V3 Free Upgrade request for users with AP's PEMPro V2 licenses



So I guess I am confused. I received a free upgrade to download V3 offer in a post earlier. I though it was an update.
But once again as usual, PemPro requires far too much to continue with upgrades. I don't get it, everything PemPro and MaxumDL requires an amazing amount of security just to use the program.
I have grown tired of listening to this conversation about yet another complicated security requirement. NO other program I use and have used for the last 40+ years has ever required so much security hoop jumping.
Sorry for the rant. I woke up this morning just to see 10 more forum posts about this topic and apparently I have had enough with the complex nature of obtaining the next version of PemPro. I find all of this security to register the program is rediculous, and for me at this time, I am not willing to put up with it anymore.
This should have been a simple upgrade, but for some reason it needs to be far more complicated. EOR.
Gregory Gig Harbor, WA.


On 2/9/2018 7:17 AM, Mike C mike@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 
If you click the buy link on the CCDWARE page and scroll down, do you see a green barred section called upgrades?

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 5:45 AM, a.w.colburn@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 
Hi Ray,

I've used Pempro since V1 and currently have a V2 upgrade licence. Having downloaded V3 and installed it, the licence window tells me I am eligible for a V3 upgrade licence but when I click the purchase licence button it takes me to a window that only allows me to buy a full V3 licence. Am I missing something?

Regards, Alex
Re: PEMPro V2 to V3 Free Upgrade request for users with AP's PEMPro V2 licenses

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Alex,

As Mike said, just scroll down to the upgrades section on the CCDWare site.

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 6:45 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: PEMPro V2 to V3 Free Upgrade request for users with AP's
PEMPro V2 licenses



Hi Ray,

I've used Pempro since V1 and currently have a V2 upgrade licence. Having
downloaded V3 and installed it, the licence window tells me I am eligible for a V3
upgrade licence but when I click the purchase licence button it takes me to a window
that only allows me to buy a full V3 licence. Am I missing something?

Regards, Alex
FW: Amateur Astronomers Photograph Tesla Roadster in Space

Marj Christen
 

Friends,

 

I would like to issue a challenge to anyone with clear skies tonight. Who can capture an image of the Tesla Roadster in space? See the info from Space Weather below. There was an image, but I had to delete it, so you will have to go to their site.

 

Good luck! Snow here today, so no chance for us.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "SpaceWeather.com" <swlist@...>
Date: Feb 9, 2018 3:08 AM
Subject: Amateur Astronomers Photograph Tesla Roadster in Space
To: <sarmm54@...>
Cc:

Elon Musk's cherry red Roadster has been spotted 430,000 km from Earth heading toward the orbit of Mars.

Space Weather News for Feb. 9, 2018
http://spaceweather.com
https://www.facebook.com/spaceweatherdotcom

AMATEUR ASTRONOMERS PHOTOGRAPH ROADSTER IN SPACE: "It's the craziest thing I've ever captured in my telescope," says amateur astronomer Raymond Kneip. Last night, he photographed Elon Musk's cherry red Roadster 430,000 km from Earth heading toward the orbit of Mars. NASA has just released an ephemeris (celestial coordinates) for the electric car, allowing astronomers to track and photograph the Tesla as it recedes into deep space. Pictures of the Roadster and instructions for accessing NASA's ephemeris may be found on today's edition of Spaceweather.com.

Remember, SpaceWeather.com is on Facebook!

 

 

 

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Re: PEMPro V2 to V3 Free Upgrade request for users with AP's PEMPro V2 licenses

Gregory <fyrframe@...>
 

So I guess I am confused. I received a free upgrade to download V3 offer in a post earlier. I though it was an update.

But once again as usual, PemPro requires far too much to continue with upgrades. I don't get it, everything PemPro and MaxumDL requires an amazing amount of security just to use the program.

I have grown tired of listening to this conversation about yet another complicated security requirement. NO other program I use and have used for the last 40+ years has ever required so much security hoop jumping.

Sorry for the rant. I woke up this morning just to see 10 more forum posts about this topic and apparently I have had enough with the complex nature of obtaining the next version of PemPro. I find all of this security to register the program is rediculous, and for me at this time, I am not willing to put up with it anymore.

This should have been a simple upgrade, but for some reason it needs to be far more complicated. EOR.

Gregory Gig Harbor, WA.



On 2/9/2018 7:17 AM, Mike C mike@... [ap-gto] wrote:

 
If you click the buy link on the CCDWARE page and scroll down, do you see a green barred section called upgrades?

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 5:45 AM, a.w.colburn@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi Ray,


I've used Pempro since V1 and currently have a V2 upgrade licence. Having downloaded V3 and installed it, the licence window tells me I am eligible for a V3 upgrade licence but when I click the purchase licence button it takes me to a window that only allows me to buy a full V3 licence. Am I missing something?

Regards, Alex
Re: PEMPro V2 to V3 Free Upgrade request for users with AP's PEMPro V2 licenses

Mike C
 

If you click the buy link on the CCDWARE page and scroll down, do you see a green barred section called upgrades?

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 5:45 AM, a.w.colburn@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi Ray,


I've used Pempro since V1 and currently have a V2 upgrade licence. Having downloaded V3 and installed it, the licence window tells me I am eligible for a V3 upgrade licence but when I click the purchase licence button it takes me to a window that only allows me to buy a full V3 licence. Am I missing something?

Regards, Alex
Re: PEMPro V2 to V3 Free Upgrade request for users with AP's PEMPro V2 licenses

Alex Colburn
 

Hi Ray,

I've used Pempro since V1 and currently have a V2 upgrade licence. Having downloaded V3 and installed it, the licence window tells me I am eligible for a V3 upgrade licence but when I click the purchase licence button it takes me to a window that only allows me to buy a full V3 licence. Am I missing something?

Regards, Alex
Re: Guiding AP mounts with PHD

Suresh Mohan
 

I wish you would share settings of Maxim DL as well! 
Thanks 
Suresh


On 02-Feb-2018, at 10:39 PM, chris1011@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

There may be ways of averaging and weighting the guide data so that only drift is compensated and seeing effects are ignored. In Dec especially, drift is only in one direction, so no reason to do lots of Dec axis reversals. During a dither move the software could adjust the guide pulses to bring the guide star back to zero rapidly, and then resume an average slower drift compensation. All this requires a higher level of sophistication in the guide software, but if the software is free, then nobody pays for the labor required to develop it. Dilemma ramalamadingdong

Rolando




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From: 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Fri, Feb 2, 2018 11:01 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Guiding AP mounts with PHD



Rolando,
 
    On your second point ... wouldn’t it be nice if guider programs did a “limit check” and tossed out any centroid which exceeded a user set star position jump size,  and only accepted them “as real” after 2 or more samples that stayed at that new position. This might eliminate effects of sudden bursts of bad seeing, caused by major drift pockets in air temperature, even the occasional passing aircraft’s lights.
 
    Perhaps this is “already being done”,  in PemPro – if not, maybe it would be a good test vehicle for this kind of guide compensation.
 
Joe
Re: A1600AE loosing position when powered off

Roland Christen
 


My AP1600AE mount with GTOCP4 is loosing position when I power off the mount.
Just a quick note, the mount is not losing position when you power off the mount. The position is registered in memory. When you power the mount back on, you simply tell it to resume from present position. That way it will look at its internal memory position and resume from that point. If you ask it to resume from a known park position, that may be the problem because you may not have left it in that park position when you turned off power.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: pnelson@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Wed, Feb 7, 2018 5:15 am
Subject: [ap-gto] A1600AE loosing position when powered off



My AP1600AE mount with GTOCP4 is loosing position when I power off the mount.  I have to use the APAE utility and send to home.  Then I have to go to a star and plate solve with APPM.  Then the mount runs fine.

If I leave the mount powered on, there is no issue.  I run ACP/Scheduler and the targets are located automatically.

Is there a battery in the GTOCP4 that may need replacing?

Thanks Peter
Re: A1600AE loosing position when powered off

Roland Christen
 

There is no battery in the CP4. If you are having position issues, please contact George or Howard at AP. It may be one of your 3rd party programs is sending false info to the mount during your session.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: pnelson@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Wed, Feb 7, 2018 5:15 am
Subject: [ap-gto] A1600AE loosing position when powered off



My AP1600AE mount with GTOCP4 is loosing position when I power off the mount.  I have to use the APAE utility and send to home.  Then I have to go to a star and plate solve with APPM.  Then the mount runs fine.

If I leave the mount powered on, there is no issue.  I run ACP/Scheduler and the targets are located automatically.

Is there a battery in the GTOCP4 that may need replacing?

Thanks Peter
Re: Needing re-do the PE after updating 1200 cp3 L chip to V chip.

Suresh Mohan
 

You need to track on a star . That too choose a day with good seeing 
Suresh


On 03-Feb-2018, at 11:42 PM, wildwood7711@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Hi All, Can I do my PE in the house? As long as the mount is pointed to the Celestial Equator and near the Meridian (Park 3?). I guess I just power the mount and go right into the tools menu and choose 1.) PEM and start   Roland's step by step procedure w/ PEMPro. No where does it state the scope must be tracking on a object. Thanks, Mike
A1600AE loosing position when powered off

PeterN
 

My AP1600AE mount with GTOCP4 is loosing position when I power off the mount.  I have to use the APAE utility and send to home.  Then I have to go to a star and plate solve with APPM.  Then the mount runs fine.


If I leave the mount powered on, there is no issue.  I run ACP/Scheduler and the targets are located automatically.


Is there a battery in the GTOCP4 that may need replacing?


Thanks Peter
Re: APPC - double clicking on "Tracking = xxx" in status bar

Eric Claeys
 

Ray,


My vote is still to have double clicking on "Tracking = Sidereal" in APCC Pro do nothing.

Or better yet, have an option to disable double clicking on the status bar.


Eric
Re: GTOCP2 and Mach 1

Roland Christen
 

Yes, it will work with Mach1.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: lateralus35@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Tue, Feb 6, 2018 7:18 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] GTOCP2 and Mach 1

Just wondering if a brand new Mach 1 would work with the older GTOCP2 version D?

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Declination travel

Roland Christen
 

Dec mesh might be loose. It's easy enough to adjust.

If you have PHD2 perhaps you can use the Dec compensation. But before you dial in too much, set your Min Move higher and take faster guide exposures. Try taking 1 second to 2 second exposures.

Set Min Move higher in poor seeing, lower in good seeing.

Rolando



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Subject: [ap-gto] Declination travel


Hi ,
I’ve a Mach 1 . I’m noticing jumps in DEC in either direction for upto 2-3 arc seconds. I use Phd for autoguiding . My PA error is ( only in altitude by 1.8 arc minute).i don’t have access to Zenith to try The new method as of now . I ran the guiding assistant in Phd ,the software gave me a suggestion of setting a 500 millisecond DEC compensation ; I did and I noticed the the jumps are gone . I couldn’t test for longer as there were clouds .I know that Roland never suggests a DEC compensation , could the mesh in DEC have become loose ?( haven’t touched in years )
Suresh


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Question on Roland Method of PA

Suresh Mohan
 

Once that is done, go to a star near the zenith (usually on the East side within 1/2 hour of the meridian) and align the altitude axis by zeroing out the R.A. drift. Done this way, the two adjustments are independent and don’t interfere with each other. The adjustment can be done in about 15 minutes.


By zenith you mean a star over head and not 0 Dec . Am I correct ? That would a star at +13 DEC as my latitude is 13 degrees
Thanks
Suresh
Declination travel

Suresh Mohan
 

Hi ,
I’ve a Mach 1 . I’m noticing jumps in DEC in either direction for upto 2-3 arc seconds. I use Phd for autoguiding . My PA error is ( only in altitude by 1.8 arc minute).i don’t have access to Zenith to try The new method as of now . I ran the guiding assistant in Phd ,the software gave me a suggestion of setting a 500 millisecond DEC compensation ; I did and I noticed the the jumps are gone . I couldn’t test for longer as there were clouds .I know that Roland never suggests a DEC compensation , could the mesh in DEC have become loose ?( haven’t touched in years )
Suresh
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