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Re: 110 scope musings

Jeff B
 

"*ask me why"

I'll bite.

Why?

Jeff

On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 9:29 PM Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
helloo Astronuts,

Well, you have by now seen the 110 product page, and I have a few thoughts I want to pass along.

For the past 2 years I have been keenly aware of trends in this hobby, and have been listening to you active users as to what you want in a scope. So I have spent an inordinate amount of time working out the best optical system that would fulfill a lot of the most desirable things that everyone has requested. I'm leaving out Newts because it's not my specialty.

You want:
1)  sharp stars with essentially perfect color correction:   Apo Triplet Refractors, Mak-Newts, Mak-Cass
2)  High power visual instrument with highest contrast and Strehl:   Refractors, Mak-Newts, Mak-Cass with very small obstruction
3)  capable of imaging wide fields as well as the above:   Whoops, that leaves only Refractors and Maks with large obstruction
4)  High power high contrast visual + wide field imaging capability.   That leaves only Refractors.

I know that lots of people would like to have a high performance visual scope that has refractor-like contrast and a Mak-Newt fills the bill. But there is no way you can also use it for wide field imaging. As soon as you make the secondary size big enough to cover any modern imaging chip, there goes the visual contrast. Only the refractor can fulfill all uses at once. With today's newest glass compounds we can make a fast refractor that performs for just about any purpose, even for high power visual. So that's how I settled on this particular design. It's a Stowaway on Steroids.

Rolando

P.S. I still love Mak-Newts and I think they are about as perfect an optical system that exists for visual only.*
And a nice size Mak-Cass for imaging only. But ne'er the twin shall meet to produce both results at the same time.

*ask me why

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: [ap-ug] ZWO color camera problem - Update

Calypte
 
Edited

Rolando, maybe I've missed this detail in one of these posts.  What scope are you using this ZWO camera with, and what adapters are you using?


Re: The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement

Thomas Swann
 

The return of a 4" f/6 AP refractor.  My dreams have come true.  I got on the Traveler list too late back in the day to get one.  Now I just need some luck.  This is so exciting.


Re: The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement

Mike Dodd
 

On 5/20/2022 9:52 PM, Moshen Chan wrote:
My only wish is some built in way to adjust tilt on the scope, either at the lens cell or focuser to allow us to dial out any remaining mechanical tilt in the scope due to tolerance stacking.
Have you considered 3D-printing a tapered washer to fit between your camera and ocuser? The attached photo shows one I drew in 15 minutes of fiddling around, so it's easy to create. This one is greatly exaggerated for illustration, but the principle is the same -- tapering from near-zero to whatever thickness you want. I added a little handle to make it easy to rotate to find the best orientation.

You could make several of these of incrementing thickness. and choose the one that corrects the best. Not as convenient as adjustment screws, but it ought to work.

--- Mike


Re: [ap-ug] The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement

Moshen Chan
 

This is exactly what I’m looking for as I image with the ASI6200MM full frame sensor. My only wish is some built in way to adjust tilt on the scope, either at the lens cell or focuser to allow us to dial out any remaining mechanical tilt in the scope due to tolerance stacking.

Thanks AP team, I hope I win the raffle! 

Moshen

On May 20, 2022, at 2:34 PM, Marj Christen <marj@...> wrote:



At last, our exciting news:

 

The Quest:  Design the largest, fast, highly-corrected, airline transportable refractor that can cover a full-format CMOS chip with pinpoint stars to the corners when coupled to its matched Telecompressor-Corrector and provide superb visual performance.

 

The Solution: 110mm StarFire GTX with its optional Telecompressor-Corrector ready for your next astronomical adventure near or far. Perfect for the 2024 eclipse and a quick and easy scope for any night or day you have a few hours available to observe.

 

Check out our new webpage with preliminary details that will be updated as final tweaks are made to the mechanical design.

 

In order to give everyone an equal chance to obtain this versatile scope, we plan to use the same random-drawing format that we used for the 92mm Stowaway. After we establish the price and have more details regarding the case, Telecompressor-Corrector, and other accessories, we will announce the signup for the random drawing. During the week-long signup period, you will have an opportunity to enter and submit your contact information. From this group of interested people, we will randomly choose those who will be notified of the opportunity to purchase a 110mm StarFire GTX.

 

If you are interested, watch for announcements on the Availability tab of 110mm webpage, in this forum, on our Facebook page and our newsletter. If you would like to receive our newsletter so that you don’t have to be vigilant about watching the website or forum, you can sign up in the black banner at the bottom of our website.   https://www.astro-physics.com/

 

 

Clear Skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics

11250 Forest Hills Road

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com
Video Tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/astrophysicscorp 

 


Re: 110 scope musings

Dean Jacobsen
 

Thanks for your efforts Roland.  I have no doubt your new gift to the astronomy community will be as prized and sought after as your previous masterpieces.  I hope to have one someday.

Now that I know about the Fastmax 180s I am going to watch for one of those gems.  🙂  Maybe I can find one someday.
--
Dean Jacobsen
Astrobin Image Gallery - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/


Re: 110 scope musings

DFisch
 

Roland,  Thanks so much for the insights and thanks so much for producing  your "vision" scope, 
 I'm so glad you had your goals in mind when you set off on this project it sounds delightful
Tom Fischer, indy 

On Fri, May 20, 2022, 21:29 Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
helloo Astronuts,

Well, you have by now seen the 110 product page, and I have a few thoughts I want to pass along.

For the past 2 years I have been keenly aware of trends in this hobby, and have been listening to you active users as to what you want in a scope. So I have spent an inordinate amount of time working out the best optical system that would fulfill a lot of the most desirable things that everyone has requested. I'm leaving out Newts because it's not my specialty.

You want:
1)  sharp stars with essentially perfect color correction:   Apo Triplet Refractors, Mak-Newts, Mak-Cass
2)  High power visual instrument with highest contrast and Strehl:   Refractors, Mak-Newts, Mak-Cass with very small obstruction
3)  capable of imaging wide fields as well as the above:   Whoops, that leaves only Refractors and Maks with large obstruction
4)  High power high contrast visual + wide field imaging capability.   That leaves only Refractors.

I know that lots of people would like to have a high performance visual scope that has refractor-like contrast and a Mak-Newt fills the bill. But there is no way you can also use it for wide field imaging. As soon as you make the secondary size big enough to cover any modern imaging chip, there goes the visual contrast. Only the refractor can fulfill all uses at once. With today's newest glass compounds we can make a fast refractor that performs for just about any purpose, even for high power visual. So that's how I settled on this particular design. It's a Stowaway on Steroids.

Rolando

P.S. I still love Mak-Newts and I think they are about as perfect an optical system that exists for visual only.*
And a nice size Mak-Cass for imaging only. But ne'er the twin shall meet to produce both results at the same time.

*ask me why

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


110 scope musings

Roland Christen
 

helloo Astronuts,

Well, you have by now seen the 110 product page, and I have a few thoughts I want to pass along.

For the past 2 years I have been keenly aware of trends in this hobby, and have been listening to you active users as to what you want in a scope. So I have spent an inordinate amount of time working out the best optical system that would fulfill a lot of the most desirable things that everyone has requested. I'm leaving out Newts because it's not my specialty.

You want:
1)  sharp stars with essentially perfect color correction:   Apo Triplet Refractors, Mak-Newts, Mak-Cass
2)  High power visual instrument with highest contrast and Strehl:   Refractors, Mak-Newts, Mak-Cass with very small obstruction
3)  capable of imaging wide fields as well as the above:   Whoops, that leaves only Refractors and Maks with large obstruction
4)  High power high contrast visual + wide field imaging capability.   That leaves only Refractors.

I know that lots of people would like to have a high performance visual scope that has refractor-like contrast and a Mak-Newt fills the bill. But there is no way you can also use it for wide field imaging. As soon as you make the secondary size big enough to cover any modern imaging chip, there goes the visual contrast. Only the refractor can fulfill all uses at once. With today's newest glass compounds we can make a fast refractor that performs for just about any purpose, even for high power visual. So that's how I settled on this particular design. It's a Stowaway on Steroids.

Rolando

P.S. I still love Mak-Newts and I think they are about as perfect an optical system that exists for visual only.*
And a nice size Mak-Cass for imaging only. But ne'er the twin shall meet to produce both results at the same time.

*ask me why

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement

Bill Long
 

We're halfway there, kids.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 6:17 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement
 
Me too !!

So, today's announcement was our "bathroom break", but we are not "there" yet. It sounds like we will still have one more "bathroom break" when you open up the signup list, but we won't get "there" until you start drawing names and notifying people that they can purchase a new 110m Starfire GTX scope.

So the question remains: "When are we gonna get there ?"

Mike


Re: The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement

M Hambrick
 

Me too !!

So, today's announcement was our "bathroom break", but we are not "there" yet. It sounds like we will still have one more "bathroom break" when you open up the signup list, but we won't get "there" until you start drawing names and notifying people that they can purchase a new 110m Starfire GTX scope.

So the question remains: "When are we gonna get there ?"

Mike


Re: AP1100 autoguiding

 

Hi Mike,

 

Yes, the label/function of two buttons changed and you will be able to upgrade the button pad, though it is not essential to do so. I’ll have more information about that when the new version is released.

 

Clear Skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics

11250 Forest Hills Road

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com
Video Tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/astrophysicscorp 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of M Hambrick
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 8:10 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP1100 autoguiding

 

Hi Marj

Is this updated keypad software the same version that was mentioned a while back where the RA / DEC / REV key has been changed to an ENTER key ? If so, I recall that it was also mentioned that we might be able to send our keypads in to the factory and you would replace the key and load the new software ?

I would be interested to know if this service will be available because I would like to take advantage of it, and probably get a new battery while I am at it.

Mike


Re: AP1100 autoguiding

M Hambrick
 

Hi Marj

Is this updated keypad software the same version that was mentioned a while back where the RA / DEC / REV key has been changed to an ENTER key ? If so, I recall that it was also mentioned that we might be able to send our keypads in to the factory and you would replace the key and load the new software ?

I would be interested to know if this service will be available because I would like to take advantage of it, and probably get a new battery while I am at it.

Mike


Re: The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement

Bill Long
 

Awesome new scope. Definitely count me in on this. 

Curious, will the new TCC also work with the bigger 130 GTX?



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Marj Christen <marj@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 2:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [ap-gto] The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement
 

Here is the direct link:

https://www.astro-physics.com/110gtx

 

Clear Skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics

11250 Forest Hills Road

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com
Video Tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/astrophysicscorp 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marj Christen
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 4:35 PM
To: ap-gto@groups.io; ap-ug@groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement

 

At last, our exciting news:

 

The Quest:  Design the largest, fast, highly-corrected, airline transportable refractor that can cover a full-format CMOS chip with pinpoint stars to the corners when coupled to its matched Telecompressor-Corrector and provide superb visual performance.

 

The Solution: 110mm StarFire GTX with its optional Telecompressor-Corrector ready for your next astronomical adventure near or far. Perfect for the 2024 eclipse and a quick and easy scope for any night or day you have a few hours available to observe.

 

Check out our new webpage with preliminary details that will be updated as final tweaks are made to the mechanical design.

 

In order to give everyone an equal chance to obtain this versatile scope, we plan to use the same random-drawing format that we used for the 92mm Stowaway. After we establish the price and have more details regarding the case, Telecompressor-Corrector, and other accessories, we will announce the signup for the random drawing. During the week-long signup period, you will have an opportunity to enter and submit your contact information. From this group of interested people, we will randomly choose those who will be notified of the opportunity to purchase a 110mm StarFire GTX.

 

If you are interested, watch for announcements on the Availability tab of 110mm webpage, in this forum, on our Facebook page and our newsletter. If you would like to receive our newsletter so that you don’t have to be vigilant about watching the website or forum, you can sign up in the black banner at the bottom of our website.   https://www.astro-physics.com/

 

 

Clear Skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics

11250 Forest Hills Road

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com
Video Tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/astrophysicscorp 

 


Re: The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement

Beau Gagne
 

Wow!

Here's to praying I can manage to get my first AP scope,  it's a beauty!

Best,
Beau


Re: The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement

midmoastro
 

Awesome, I cannot wait to get on the list. Thanks so much Marj, and everyone at Astro-Physics.
Exciting times!
Todd


Re: [ap-ug] The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement

Pete Lardizabal
 

🤗🤗🤗

😎

Pete

On May 20, 2022, at 5:34 PM, Marj Christen <Marj@...> wrote:



At last, our exciting news:

 

The Quest:  Design the largest, fast, highly-corrected, airline transportable refractor that can cover a full-format CMOS chip with pinpoint stars to the corners when coupled to its matched Telecompressor-Corrector and provide superb visual performance.

 

The Solution: 110mm StarFire GTX with its optional Telecompressor-Corrector ready for your next astronomical adventure near or far. Perfect for the 2024 eclipse and a quick and easy scope for any night or day you have a few hours available to observe.

 

Check out our new webpage with preliminary details that will be updated as final tweaks are made to the mechanical design.

 

In order to give everyone an equal chance to obtain this versatile scope, we plan to use the same random-drawing format that we used for the 92mm Stowaway. After we establish the price and have more details regarding the case, Telecompressor-Corrector, and other accessories, we will announce the signup for the random drawing. During the week-long signup period, you will have an opportunity to enter and submit your contact information. From this group of interested people, we will randomly choose those who will be notified of the opportunity to purchase a 110mm StarFire GTX.

 

If you are interested, watch for announcements on the Availability tab of 110mm webpage, in this forum, on our Facebook page and our newsletter. If you would like to receive our newsletter so that you don’t have to be vigilant about watching the website or forum, you can sign up in the black banner at the bottom of our website.   https://www.astro-physics.com/

 

 

Clear Skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics

11250 Forest Hills Road

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com
Video Tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/astrophysicscorp 

 


Re: The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement

thefamily90 Phillips
 

Well I know all of you are very happy about the possibility of owning one of the new scopes. Good luck to everyone!

Best,

Jim


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Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 6:07:30 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement
 
On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 06:04 PM, Dean Jacobsen wrote:
Now we know what that new full frame color camera was for.  I hope to see some sample images soon.
Wait... does that mean all the colors on the new OTA are somehow corrected to be backwards? 


Re: The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement

ap@CaptivePhotons.com
 

On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 06:04 PM, Dean Jacobsen wrote:
Now we know what that new full frame color camera was for.  I hope to see some sample images soon.
Wait... does that mean all the colors on the new OTA are somehow corrected to be backwards? 


Re: The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement

Dean Jacobsen
 

Now we know what that new full frame color camera was for.  I hope to see some sample images soon.
--
Dean Jacobsen
Astrobin Image Gallery - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/


Re: The Quest and the Solution – New Product Announcement

Emilio J. Robau, P.E.
 

Ungag Rolando,

Give him freedom of speech!

Very cool.   

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