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Re: REST API and GTOCP3

Andy Ermolli
 

Nina has a plug in that automatically creates a model based on some parameters set by the user.
In order for that to work APPM needs to be setup to use NINA as the camera interface. The way APPM talks to NINA and vice versa is through port 59590 which is also the same port that Sequence Generator Pro uses. This is intentional I was told.
For some reason SGP had that port reserved and blocked. This meant that APPM and NINA weren't able to talk to each other.
Once I uninstalled SGP everything worked as it should.

During my troubleshooting I was trying to connect the V2 Ascom Driver to APCC using the REST API instead of virtual ports, assuming that maybe that could have caused the issue. It turns out that wasn't the issue at all and the virtual ports work just fine. In addition to that there's the fact that I happened to have the Mach 1 GTOCP3 setup and that's when I could not find the REST API option when selecting GTOCP3 int the V2 ascom driver.

So it is a bit convoluted but the bottom line is that SGP was blocking the port that APPM and NINA should have used to talk to each other.


Re: Need additional eyes: Mach2 and NINA issue

midmoastro
 

Okay, I was making this way harder than it needed to be. I got out tonight and had the same issue. After polar aligning I simply clicked the Find Home button and the mount went home (park 3). After that I performed a goto in Nina and was off by a tiny bit. A quick plate solve centered it like before. Thanks Ray.
Todd


Re: REST API and GTOCP3

 

Andy thanks for looping us back in on the solution

You originally described this as:

>>> Connect the V2 driver to APCC using REST API, when using the gtocp3 controller. 

What the answer sounds like is that NINA was trying to connect via the REST API, is that correct?



On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 6:23 PM Andy Ermolli <andyc67@...> wrote:
Ray, problem solved!

There was an issue with the server port used by NINA which it turns out is the same port as Sequence Generator Pro. For some reason SGP had that port blocked even if it wasn't running. I uninstalled SGP and everything works fine now. I suppose I could have dug a bit deeper and tried to keep both programs but since I don't use SGP that was the path of least resistance.



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Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: REST API and GTOCP3

Andy Ermolli
 

Ray, problem solved!

There was an issue with the server port used by NINA which it turns out is the same port as Sequence Generator Pro. For some reason SGP had that port blocked even if it wasn't running. I uninstalled SGP and everything works fine now. I suppose I could have dug a bit deeper and tried to keep both programs but since I don't use SGP that was the path of least resistance.


Re: REST API and GTOCP3

Andy Ermolli
 
Edited

Ray 
Thank you! That’s what I was trying to do: Connect the V2 driver to APCC using REST API, when using the gtocp3 controller. 

I’m having the same issue that I’ve had for a while. I’m trying to use the NINA AP utilities  plug-in to create an arc Dec model but I keep getting an error from appm saying that it can’t find the settings file. The file is there I checked many times. I don’t even think it’s an appm issue but I wanted to try using REST API and see if would make any difference. 

I suspect that the error is in the AP Nina plug-in tho.

I can also try with the GTOCP4 on the 1100. I just happened to have the Mach1 gtocp3 already setup so that’s what prompted using the cp3 instead.


Re: AP1100 Play in Dec Axis #Guiding

Rouz
 

Ok, got it.
Will try that.

Thanks,

Rouz


Re: AP1100 Play in Dec Axis #Guiding

Roland Christen
 


So its fine to fully tighten the clutch knobs?
Yes, lock them down fully.

Roland


-----Original Message-----
From: Rouz <rbidshahri@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Apr 18, 2022 12:15 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP1100 Play in Dec Axis #Guiding

Hi Roland,

Thank you for the reply.

I opened the top plate and tightened all the 8 bolts. They were pretty tight, got another 1/12 turn maybe. Did the same on the RA axis, it got a bit more,  1/6 turn each.

I did notice that when I loosen the clutches, the gap opens up more. So the clutch knobs are load bearing, didn't know that and would only finger tighten them.

So its fine to fully tighten the clutch knobs?
I will try that with a wrench, that should tighten it up.

Thanks,

Rouz

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: AP1100 Play in Dec Axis #Guiding

Rouz
 
Edited

Hi Roland,

Thank you for the reply.

I opened the top plate and tightened all the 8 bolts. They were pretty tight, got another 1/12 turn maybe. Did the same on the RA axis, it got a bit more,  1/6 turn each.

I did notice that when I loosen the clutches, the gap opens up more. So the clutch knobs are load bearing, didn't know that and would only finger tighten them.

So its fine to fully tighten the clutch knobs, I will try that with an Allen key.
Should they be lightly tightened or considerably?  (My knobs have those tiny spring loaded balls on the tips).

With the clutches that tight, will it still slip if it bumps into anything?



Thanks,

Rouz


Re: AP1100 Play in Dec Axis #Guiding

Roland Christen
 

In order for the top half of the Dec assembly to be fully seated, fully tighten the 3 clutch knobs until the top assembly is firmly locked down. Use an Allen key to tighten the clutches.

If that does not work, remove the top plate. That will reveal 8 bolts that hold the top assembly onto the gearwheel shaft. Make sure they are tightened fully.

If the axis is still loose, you may have to send the Dec axis in for us to look at and determine what the problem is. Call the office to get a return authorization. We will immediately work on it as soon as we get it here.

Roland Christen
Astro-Physics Inc.



-----Original Message-----
From: Rouz <rbidshahri@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Apr 16, 2022 11:53 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] AP1100 Play in Dec Axis #Guiding

Im seeing a lot of flex and play in the Dec. axis under load.

I noticed the dec axis is always very stiff, I figured this is how the new ones are.

Tonight for the first time, after shining a flashlight onto the gap that separates the moving top part of the Dec. plate and the Dec. body, I can see a gap opens up on top and it sticks to the Dec. body on the bottom.

When I flip the mount, the opposite happens. The previously bottom side that was touching the Dec. body now opens up.

Basically, there is a bit of play in the axis. This is not the top plate that comes off but the actual dec axis.
The top plate is bolted on.


The OTA is a CDK14 with camera weighing 70lbs.

Photos attached showing the dec axis play:





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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: cant connect from APCC, Com port 4 not recognized #APCC #Mach2GTO

Peter Gottstein
 

Ok. I removed the com port 4 driver from device manager. I doubled checked to run apcc as administrator and also reinstalled drivers in my eagle 4 (running administrator).

Before running anything I doubled check in device manager to be sure com port 4 was gone. It was. I reboot my eagle and ran apcc. The Eagle 4 showed com port 4. So device manager confirmed Com port 4. 


At this point the only thing hooked up to my Eagle was USB from GTOCP5. When run APCC com port 4 and com comp 8 are only two ports that show in setup drop down. Neither one worked. 


best 

peety


Re: REST API and GTOCP3

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Andy,

It looks like I cannot use REST API to connect APCC to a GTOCP3 controller, correct?
The option is just not there if I select the CP3 controller in the AP driver setup.
I think you meant to say that the AP V2 driver configured for a GTOCP3 cannot connect through APCC using REST because the option is not visible in the driver's setup window. Thanks for reporting this. That will be fixed in the next AP V2 driver build.

Are you having trouble with the virtual ports?

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy Ermolli
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2022 11:13 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] REST API and GTOCP3

Quick sanity check. It looks like I cannot use REST API to connect APCC to a GTOCP3 controller, correct?
The option is just not there if I select the CP3 controller in the AP driver setup.


Re: Laptop Specs for Mount, Imaging, and Processing

ztlm3989@...
 

I am new to all of this and just learning to put all the pieces together, but one thing I am really glad I got was the Pegasus Astro Pocket Powerbox Advance

Rather than try to run all the necessary USB cables to my laptop I can run all the 12v cables and USB cables to the Pegasus which is small enough to nicely velcro to my Mach1 mount., with only one USB cable from the Pegasus to the laptop.  A little pricey but it sure does help manage the rats nest of cables.

Tim Moorehead


Re: cant connect from APCC, Com port 4 not recognized #APCC #Mach2GTO

 

🤔 I think maybe Siri mangled your response? i'm not sure what you meant ;)

On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 4:14 AM Peter Gottstein <PGOTTSTEIN@...> wrote:
hey Brian if I get rid running thru esglle. Would I try to access mount thru wireless connection provided by GTOcp5. If so is this east to do?  This way it would tell me if it’s mount/Gtocp5 or software issue?



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Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: cant connect from APCC, Com port 4 not recognized #APCC #Mach2GTO

Erkaslan Aygen
 

Hi Peter,

I went through a similar issue a while back and managed to sort it out by running all my program as administrator. I can’t explain why and how but this was the fix.

As for the problem itself, usually you get such issues on W10 when there is already a software using the port in the background. 


Maybe you already tried this, but try to remove completely the Port 4 driver and then reboot the computer. While doing so unplug any cables connected to the port until the computer is up and running again. Then replug the cable to allow windows to lock for the driver. Let’s give it a try !

But once again, running program as administrator solved my issues.

Good luck.

Aygen





Re: cant connect from APCC, Com port 4 not recognized #APCC #Mach2GTO

Peter Gottstein
 

hey Brian if I get rid running thru esglle. Would I try to access mount thru wireless connection provided by GTOcp5. If so is this east to do?  This way it would tell me if it’s mount/Gtocp5 or software issue?


Re: cant connect from APCC, Com port 4 not recognized #APCC #Mach2GTO

 

Hi Peety

is is possible your mount is on a different com port now? maybe stick with just APCC for now, hit the Refresh ports and see what comes up. Of course, restarting the computer and double-checking connections is always good idea, sounds like you've been doing that



On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 9:34 PM Peter Gottstein <PGOTTSTEIN@...> wrote:
My mount was working great till today. I have an eagle 4 on top of it and remote in. I power the mount with a Jackery 1000 using the AP power brick into Jackery. Out of no where I can not connect  thru apcc or even thru SGP to the mount. I get an error says cant connect to com port 4. I have tried the following:

1. Reinstalled APCC Pro, Ascom V2 drivers, ascom platform 6.6 and 3.5 net
2. Reset up the virtual driver's to 21 and 22
3. Check device manager and only shows com port 4. It also says its working properly, /Also looked for conflicts but did not see anything
4. switched usb cable coming  from GTOCP5 to  mount
5. GTOCP5 light status is red (adequate  power).
6.Switched power supply from Jackery to direct plug in to house.
7. Created a new port from comport 4 to Com port 18, but no luck
8. tried to do a usb-serial reinstall of software on GTOCP5 thre 232 connecrion but would not recognise com port 4. This could not reinstall software.

I am stumped. Any ideas would be great.

Best 

Peety G



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Brian 



Brian Valente


cant connect from APCC, Com port 4 not recognized #APCC #Mach2GTO

Peter Gottstein
 

My mount was working great till today. I have an eagle 4 on top of it and remote in. I power the mount with a Jackery 1000 using the AP power brick into Jackery. Out of no where I can not connect  thru apcc or even thru SGP to the mount. I get an error says cant connect to com port 4. I have tried the following:

1. Reinstalled APCC Pro, Ascom V2 drivers, ascom platform 6.6 and 3.5 net
2. Reset up the virtual driver's to 21 and 22
3. Check device manager and only shows com port 4. It also says its working properly, /Also looked for conflicts but did not see anything
4. switched usb cable coming  from GTOCP5 to  mount
5. GTOCP5 light status is red (adequate  power).
6.Switched power supply from Jackery to direct plug in to house.
7. Created a new port from comport 4 to Com port 18, but no luck
8. tried to do a usb-serial reinstall of software on GTOCP5 thre 232 connecrion but would not recognise com port 4. This could not reinstall software.

I am stumped. Any ideas would be great.

Best 

Peety G


Re: Laptop Specs for Mount, Imaging, and Processing

William Rohr
 

For imaging processing, I would suggest visiting the PixInsight web site, then go to system requirements. You can read their requirements for using their application. If you would like to see what other PixInsight users are using then go to Benchmarks. I built my image processing system around PixInsight requirements and recommendations.

 

Bill Rohr

Dallas and Fort Davis TX

 

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From: Christopher Erickson
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2022 8:51 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Laptop Specs for Mount, Imaging, and Processing

 

I use a gaming laptop with a 17" screen, 4TB SSD hard drive & 16GB RAM. When I am home, I connect an external 27" screen to it. I process images on the 27" screen and use the built-in 17" screen for command windows and such. When I am in the field, I sure miss the 27" screen!


"Always take the high road. There's less traffic."

 

-Christopher Erickson

Observatory Engineer

Summit Kinetics

Waikoloa, Hawaii

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

 

On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 3:19 PM M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...> wrote:

I have got an Icron Ranger 2304 powered USB hub. I think those are pretty good quality.

I get my USB and Ethernet cables from L-Com. I try to get the best ones they offer with the heavier gauge wires and ferrite clips (part no U2A00016). They come in lengths from 1m to 5m. The High Flex Industrial Outdoor ethernet cables (part no TRD695AHF) are also very good. They are more a little more flexible than most ethernet cables I have seen.

I have been fighting this MaxIm lockup problem for some time now. It is very frustrating because it occurs without warning. Last week it happened two nights in a row. When I set everything up indoors to try to duplicate the problem and do some more extensive troubleshooting, everything worked perfectly every time I started it all up.

Mike

 


Re: Laptop Specs for Mount, Imaging, and Processing

Christopher Erickson
 

I use a gaming laptop with a 17" screen, 4TB SSD hard drive & 16GB RAM. When I am home, I connect an external 27" screen to it. I process images on the 27" screen and use the built-in 17" screen for command windows and such. When I am in the field, I sure miss the 27" screen!

"Always take the high road. There's less traffic."

-Christopher Erickson
Observatory Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, Hawaii


Virus-free. www.avg.com


On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 3:19 PM M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...> wrote:
I have got an Icron Ranger 2304 powered USB hub. I think those are pretty good quality.

I get my USB and Ethernet cables from L-Com. I try to get the best ones they offer with the heavier gauge wires and ferrite clips (part no U2A00016). They come in lengths from 1m to 5m. The High Flex Industrial Outdoor ethernet cables (part no TRD695AHF) are also very good. They are more a little more flexible than most ethernet cables I have seen.

I have been fighting this MaxIm lockup problem for some time now. It is very frustrating because it occurs without warning. Last week it happened two nights in a row. When I set everything up indoors to try to duplicate the problem and do some more extensive troubleshooting, everything worked perfectly every time I started it all up.

Mike


Re: AP1100 Play in Dec Axis #Guiding

M Hambrick
 

Good luck with it Rouz

If you are able to do the adjustment yourself, it would be great if you could take some pictures of the procedure and post them on the forum.

Mike

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