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Re: APCC : Failed to Create All Virtual Ports #APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Aygen,

Very good news, Ray. I've been using my 1100 GTO only with the driver and cannot have a model, etc. So, I am
very much looking forward to hear more about the new release :)
The latest build of APCC has an alternative to the Eltima virtual ports. Here is a link to the announcement:

https://ap-gto.groups.io/g/main/message/85347

-Ray


Re: APCC : Failed to Create All Virtual Ports #APCC

Erkaslan Aygen
 
Edited

Hi Ray and everybody,

Very good news, Ray. I've been using my 1100 GTO only with the driver and cannot have a model, etc. So, I am very much looking forward to hear more about the new release :)

Thank you for your efforts.

Warm regards,
Aygen


Re: Ethernet connection to GTOCP4

Mike Hanson
 

The IP address isn't your only change, you've also placed a router between the PC and mount.  Since APCC can "Find" the mount, we know that the electrical connections are good, and that APCC can communicate with the mount.  When you click the magnifying glass, and you see the mount, suggest checking the "Use numerical IP address" until you can establish that hostnames can be resolved in your system.  Then click "Select" and make sure the IP address shows up in the "Hostname/IP Address" box. Also suggest leaving UDP selected since UDP is what is used to "Find" the mount.

If the router has a connector reserved for "Internet", do not use that connector for your PC or your mount.

Make sure the timeout in APCC is long enough.  Packet delays *SHOULD* be milliseconds, but assumptions are unhelpful when troubleshooting.  The "magnifying glass" waits a couple seconds for responses before publishing results.  What happens when you set the timeout to a couple seconds?

You can also use a DOS (cmd) window and try to "ping" the mount.  You can ping to the IP address, or you can ping to the hostname.  You can ping to the hostname a couple ways, with and without the ".local" domain.  Can you ping to it?  If so, IP address only?  Or, IP address and hostname?  You can check the assigned IP address of the PC (via "ipconfig" in a DOS window). Is the router assigning addresses properly?  Unique IP addresses, but on the same subnet (as indicated by the subnet mask)? 

The green LED on the GTOCP4 ethernet connector blinks when there is traffic on the line.  After the IP address has been assigned, and you attempt to "connect" from APCC do you see any blinking on this LED?

If you still have trouble, please contact me privately.  We can use Wireshark to see what is happening.

Regards,
Mike Hanson


Re: AP harmonic drive mounts?

Andrew J
 

On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 08:49 AM, Worsel wrote:
If you search this forum for

harmonic drive

there are several threads on the topic.
Hi Bryan.

Somehow I missed those post. I found a post by Roland back in December that basically explained the Pros and Cons of Harmonic Drive mounts. It does not appear that it would be a cost effective option for AP to pursue at this time. 

Andrew


Ethernet connection to GTOCP4

DiscoDuck
 

I am having an issue with trying to change from using the default IP address for my GTOCP4 to a DHCP assigned one.

I have been connecting with the default one until now (direct connection from GTOCP4 to PC via ethernet cable) with PC side set to a static IP address on the same subnet. ie CP4 is 169.254.3.178 and PC I set to 169.254.3.177. All good. (Using UDP).

I have switched to connecting both to a router running DHCP. Switching on DHCP for the PC adapter, it and the GTOCP4 seem to pick up IP addresses successfully (192.168.0.xx) - the search (magnifying glass) in APCC finds the mount at 192.168.0.3 (say). However, when I then try to connect to it in APCC with that address it does not respond (either via UDP or TCP). APCC indicates there is no response and also gives the error message (presumably a default when no response received) about the firmware needing to be at least V.  (The firmware is VCP4-P-01-11. APCC version is 1.7.1.0 btw)

I'm obviously doing something stupid given the mount has been working fine over UDP and all I've done is change its address. :-)


Re: APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Marcelo,

That's a sign that something is holding up APCC on your computer. It could be cpu, graphics, I/O that is limiting the system. If you are usually connected remotely to your computer using a remote desktop application when this happens, try staying disconnected to see if the problem still occurs.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marcelo Figueroa via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 12:46 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!


I have found that if this error coincides with the time of a meridian flip, at least in SGP it can generate a failure and
an abort of the session (SGP reports cancellation by the user).

If it occurs during another time SGP does not even notice it.


Re: APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!

Marcelo Figueroa
 


I have found that if this error coincides with the time of a meridian flip, at least in SGP it can generate a failure and an abort of the session (SGP reports cancellation by the user).
 
If it occurs during another time SGP does not even notice it.


Re: AP harmonic drive mounts?

Worsel
 

Andrew

If you search this forum for

harmonic drive

there are several threads on the topic.

Bryan


AP harmonic drive mounts?

Andrew J
 

I am curious if AP has any plans to produce a Harmonic Drive mount? I recently purchased a Rainbow Astro RST-135E because I was looking for a light weight portable mount I could use for Solar imaging while I am on the wait list for a Mach2. I like the idea of a Harmonic Drive system, but have to say I was a bit disappointed with the lack of documentation and suppport given the price point of these mounts.They are in a simular price range as the Mach2's, but don't have nearly the support or documentation that you get with an AP Mount. The good news is that there is a groups.io user forum that is very helpful and one of the members has taken on the commendable job of compiling a "supplimental user manual" to help fill in the gaps in the manufacture's documentation. 

I recently saw that other companies like ASI are now jumping on the Harmonic Drive bandwagon, although at a much lower price point. Time will tell if these new mounts are reliable and can produce the advertized guiding accuracy of "0.5 - 0.8 arch seconds" without using encoders. The RST-135E does have Renishaw encoders on the RA Axis. I see on the ASI website that they have just delayed their shipping date to June, I suspect due to supply shortages. 

Anyway, I figured if there was a company who could build a Harmonic Drive Mount and do it right, it would be Astro-Physics. Thus the reason for asking the question. AP may not be willing to discuss future products at this point, but I was just curious if they had any plans to explore these new type of mounts.

Andrew J


Re: Playe solve always failing with APPM

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Tom,

This has started a while ago. I am no longer able to plate solve with APPM.
There are additional steps required and separate settings in SkyX for plate solving images for external applications versus using SkyX. Please take a look at the APPM help to make sure you have followed all of the steps. Among those things:

1) Ensure SkyX is connected to the AP V2 ASCOM driver.
2) If you are not using SkyX's camera to take the image, then setup and connect SkyX to its Camera Simulator.
3) Ensure that the "Automated Image Link" settings, especially image scale, matches the scope's image scale, as explained in the help.

Here is an online link to the same information as in the help file (scroll down to the section for SkyX):

https://www.apastrosoftware.com/help/apcc-pro/index.html?appm_platesolve_settings_tab.htm

Also, some of the earlier builds of SkyX had some problems plate solving with external applications, so make sure you have updated to the latest daily build of SkyX.

If none of this helps, then you will need to provide some information, including information about your setup (camera, telescope, image scale), APPM logs, SkyX version, and a few sample images that failed to solve. Also which SkyX camera database you are
using. If you are using a long-focal length telescope then you may need an extended database, like the SkyX Pro database add on:

https://www.bisque.com/product/theskyx-pro-database-add-on/

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Blahovici
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 8:33 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Playe solve always failing with APPM

Hi
This has started a while ago. I am no longer able to plate solve with APPM.
I am using TheSkyX and this is working perfectly in Voyager and in the Sky itself.
I attempt to do a plate solve and recal with appm and it fails. When this happens, I go to TheSky and Take a shot
with the parameters that were set with APPM and then try a plate solve. It works immediately.
I then tried a APPM test in the Plate solve settings, load a photo and try to solve it It immediately fails.
I think this all started happening when I changed my scope a little while ago. The image scale is the same in
APPM and in TheSky.
Suggestions?
Thanks


Re: AP 11000 mount evolution planned?

J. Belden
 

I would like that upgrade if it would ever be an option for one of my AP1600s. Also, would be interested in a home position but for the time being I will just stick to web camera looking at tape pieces on the axis.

Joe B

Though, I’m getting an upgrade soon (130 GTX)


Playe solve always failing with APPM

Tom Blahovici
 

Hi
This has started a while ago.  I am no longer able to plate solve with APPM.
I am using TheSkyX and this is working perfectly in Voyager and in the Sky itself.
I attempt to do a plate solve and recal with appm and it fails. When this happens, I go to TheSky and Take a shot with the parameters that were set with APPM and then try a plate solve.  It works immediately.
I then tried a APPM test in the Plate solve settings, load a photo and try to solve it It immediately fails.
I think this all started happening when I changed my scope a little while ago.  The image scale is the same in APPM and in TheSky.
Suggestions?
Thanks


Re: APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!

Walt Cooney
 

Thanks Ray.  All running fine tonight.  No issues.

-Walt

-------- Original message --------
From: Ray Gralak <iogroups@...>
Date: 3/22/22 8:56 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!

Hi Walt,

Not to worry, APCC will self-correct in that situation. That error message occurs when there is a backlog of messages unprocessed by APCC's user interface. It usually happens because the remote desktop application cannot update the user interface quickly enough. If you only see it once in a while, there is no reason to worry. However, if it is persistent, it might warrant further investigation.

-Ray

> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walt Cooney
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 2:51 PM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
> Subject: [ap-gto] APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!
>
> Ray,
>
> I got the error in the subject line when I started up APCC and autoconnected at my remote observatory this
> afternoon. Have not seen that one before. Everything seems to have come up OK, but I really won't know there
> isn't a problem for sure until I go out to the observatory and run it tonight. It's classified as a severe error.
> Anything I should be worried about?
>
> Thanks,
> Walt Cooney
>
>







Re: APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!

Bill Long
 

You need to double click the error text. 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Emilio J. Robau, P.E. <ejr@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 7:35 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!
 
I need tech support.  I am having trouble finding the coffee control features.   Is it under the environment pop down tab?


Re: APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!

Emilio J. Robau, P.E.
 

I need tech support.  I am having trouble finding the coffee control features.   Is it under the environment pop down tab?


Re: APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!

Bill Long
 

And an option to run the milk frother. 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Ray Gralak <iogroups@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 7:07 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!
 
> APCC needs a feature to kick on the coffee maker. :)

And, of course, turn off the coffee maker at a set time! :-)

-Ray

> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Long
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 7:01 PM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!
>
> APCC needs a feature to kick on the coffee maker. :)
> ________________________________
>
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Ray Gralak <iogroups@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 6:56 PM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!
>
> Hi Walt,
>
> Not to worry, APCC will self-correct in that situation. That error message occurs when there is a backlog of
> messages unprocessed by APCC's user interface. It usually happens because the remote desktop application
> cannot update the user interface quickly enough. If you only see it once in a while, there is no reason to worry.
> However, if it is persistent, it might warrant further investigation.
>
> -Ray
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walt Cooney
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 2:51 PM
> > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
> > Subject: [ap-gto] APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!
> >
> > Ray,
> >
> > I got the error in the subject line when I started up APCC and autoconnected at my remote observatory this
> > afternoon. Have not seen that one before. Everything seems to have come up OK, but I really won't know there
> > isn't a problem for sure until I go out to the observatory and run it tonight. It's classified as a severe error.
> > Anything I should be worried about?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Walt Cooney
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>







Re: APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!

Ray Gralak
 

APCC needs a feature to kick on the coffee maker. :)
And, of course, turn off the coffee maker at a set time! :-)

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Long
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 7:01 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!

APCC needs a feature to kick on the coffee maker. :)
________________________________

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Ray Gralak <iogroups@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 6:56 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!

Hi Walt,

Not to worry, APCC will self-correct in that situation. That error message occurs when there is a backlog of
messages unprocessed by APCC's user interface. It usually happens because the remote desktop application
cannot update the user interface quickly enough. If you only see it once in a while, there is no reason to worry.
However, if it is persistent, it might warrant further investigation.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walt Cooney
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 2:51 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!

Ray,

I got the error in the subject line when I started up APCC and autoconnected at my remote observatory this
afternoon. Have not seen that one before. Everything seems to have come up OK, but I really won't know there
isn't a problem for sure until I go out to the observatory and run it tonight. It's classified as a severe error.
Anything I should be worried about?

Thanks,
Walt Cooney








Re: APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!

Bill Long
 

APCC needs a feature to kick on the coffee maker. :) 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Ray Gralak <iogroups@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 6:56 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!
 
Hi Walt,

Not to worry, APCC will self-correct in that situation. That error message occurs when there is a backlog of messages unprocessed by APCC's user interface. It usually happens because the remote desktop application cannot update the user interface quickly enough. If you only see it once in a while, there is no reason to worry. However, if it is persistent, it might warrant further investigation.

-Ray

> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walt Cooney
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 2:51 PM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
> Subject: [ap-gto] APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!
>
> Ray,
>
> I got the error in the subject line when I started up APCC and autoconnected at my remote observatory this
> afternoon. Have not seen that one before. Everything seems to have come up OK, but I really won't know there
> isn't a problem for sure until I go out to the observatory and run it tonight. It's classified as a severe error.
> Anything I should be worried about?
>
> Thanks,
> Walt Cooney
>
>







Re: APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Walt,

Not to worry, APCC will self-correct in that situation. That error message occurs when there is a backlog of messages unprocessed by APCC's user interface. It usually happens because the remote desktop application cannot update the user interface quickly enough. If you only see it once in a while, there is no reason to worry. However, if it is persistent, it might warrant further investigation.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walt Cooney
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 2:51 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC error: FindFreeQacIndex: no free entries!

Ray,

I got the error in the subject line when I started up APCC and autoconnected at my remote observatory this
afternoon. Have not seen that one before. Everything seems to have come up OK, but I really won't know there
isn't a problem for sure until I go out to the observatory and run it tonight. It's classified as a severe error.
Anything I should be worried about?

Thanks,
Walt Cooney


Re: AP 11000 mount evolution planned?

Emilio J. Robau, P.E.
 

Roland,

I think the 1600 and 1100 mounts are fully matured and I would not change a thing..  You can produce them for a long long time as far as I am concerned.  I have a 1600 and want an 1100, and really don't want them changing.  I don't have the encoder on my 1600 and probably won't get it for the 1100, and still the mount performs so well I usually just gasp after years of ownership.

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