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Re: Availability of Absolute Encoders for Mount Upgrades

dvjbaja
 

"O" My. 


AP 11000 mount evolution planned?

Terri Zittritsch
 

Hi A-P.   I am on the waiting list for an 1100 GTO mount to use with a 180mm Scope.     Scope should arrive in June, and am wondering what the current outlook is for the next batch of 1100 mounts?
I have also been wondering if there are plans to upgrade the 1100 to be more like the Mach2:  have integrated encoders  and CP5 controller rather than the current add-on encoders and CP4.    I'd hate to purchase the 1100 and find out in 6 months the mount is going through an evolution.     

Terri


Re: Availability of Absolute Encoders for Mount Upgrades

Michael Kelly
 

Well Ford hasn’t added an ‘O’ to the Mustango or elevating it from a GT to a GTO, so I pray in the AP stable that your self proclaimed ‘Mustango’ isn’t ridiculed for ‘O’ envy from all the AP GTO hardware.  I know if my lady was missing an ‘O’ I would be duly notified and forbidden from all Astro duties until rectified…..


Rant over……you may recommence your sequence now. 


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On Monday, March 21, 2022, 7:38 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:

In the case of Renishaw, there are no Covid restrictions that are affecting their encoder shipments. It is the world-wide unavailability of computer chips that has their production stymied. Same problem that car manufacturers the world over are facing (and us lowly mount makers).

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Mar 21, 2022 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Availability of Absolute Encoders for Mount Upgrades

Hopefully, the situation in the UK will get better soon. I think it was just last week that the Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced that they were ending a lot of their COVID restrictions. I think a lot of countries are starting to figure out that vaccines and masks are not making much of a difference with the Omicron variant. We've still got a long way to go though.

Mike

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Availability of Absolute Encoders for Mount Upgrades

Roland Christen
 

In the case of Renishaw, there are no Covid restrictions that are affecting their encoder shipments. It is the world-wide unavailability of computer chips that has their production stymied. Same problem that car manufacturers the world over are facing (and us lowly mount makers).

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Mar 21, 2022 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Availability of Absolute Encoders for Mount Upgrades

Hopefully, the situation in the UK will get better soon. I think it was just last week that the Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced that they were ending a lot of their COVID restrictions. I think a lot of countries are starting to figure out that vaccines and masks are not making much of a difference with the Omicron variant. We've still got a long way to go though.

Mike

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Availability of Absolute Encoders for Mount Upgrades

M Hambrick
 

Hopefully, the situation in the UK will get better soon. I think it was just last week that the Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced that they were ending a lot of their COVID restrictions. I think a lot of countries are starting to figure out that vaccines and masks are not making much of a difference with the Omicron variant. We've still got a long way to go though.

Mike


Re: Availability of Absolute Encoders for Mount Upgrades

Roland Christen
 

That's up to you. Installation is not difficult, but our labor rates are Stuck out tongue closed eyes

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: mjb87 via groups.io <mjb87@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Mar 21, 2022 3:44 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Availability of Absolute Encoders for Mount Upgrades

Thanks, Roland. Let's hope we can get through the rest of the pandemic quickly.

Quick question... My 1100GTO is about five years old. Assuming I can get the absolute encoders at all, the mount will probably be closer to 6-8 years in age when I they arrive.  At that stage, would it just make sense to send the mount back to AP for a complete overhaul and installation of the encoders?

Marty

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Availability of Absolute Encoders for Mount Upgrades

mjb87@...
 

Thanks, Roland. Let's hope we can get through the rest of the pandemic quickly.

Quick question... My 1100GTO is about five years old. Assuming I can get the absolute encoders at all, the mount will probably be closer to 6-8 years in age when I they arrive.  At that stage, would it just make sense to send the mount back to AP for a complete overhaul and installation of the encoders?

Marty


Re: ASCOM Driver "freezing"?

wbelhaven
 

Just thought I'd tie up this loose end: I bought the FTDI adapter cable recommended by AP and a long-enough serial cable as recommended by Ray and all is working with my PC and mount. No more lockups of the driver. Thanks all.


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Roland Christen
 

No guarantees since the design is proprietary.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Cooke <TSCOOKE64@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Mar 20, 2022 11:17 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

It sounds like it would probably work well on my CFF 185 F6.8 which is also an oiled triplet.  Since the focal length is the same as the TEC 180FL, would the spacing be the same?

Thanks,
Scott

On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 8:26 AM Terri Zittritsch <theresamarie11@...> wrote:
I am really pleased with the performance of QTCC on my TEC140 and if all goes as planned, I'll be able to test it on a 180 in 3 months!

Terri

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Availability of Absolute Encoders for Mount Upgrades

Roland Christen
 

Renishaw has still not been able to supply encoders at the rate we need to fully supply our needs. We keep hoping, but Britain is still in the grip of Omicron unfortunately.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Mar 20, 2022 7:48 am
Subject: [ap-gto] Availability of Absolute Encoders for Mount Upgrades

I suppose that today could technically be called late Winter or Spring. Is there any update on when there may be some Renishaw encoders available for those on the waiting list to purchase them ? The A-P web site mentions that they would be available in late Winter or Spring, 2022.

Mike

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


AP 1200 and NINA PA routine

Luke Dodd
 

Hi
 
Has any used the 3 point polar align routine in NINA’s latest Beta version. I am unable to get the mount to slew from within the NINA”s automatic mode PA routine. I constantly get the error message ‘mount only slewed in RA 0.89 degrees not the 10 degrees required’. I do not use APCC, just connect the mount thru the ascom driver. I have adjusted settings in the NINA plugin menu but they made no difference to the slew. I Adjust slew speed in the ASCOM driver to no effect.
 
I did wrestle with the manual option for polar alignment and after 45min finally had the PA good. The alignment seemed consistent with the PHD2 polar drift routine. Seems you actually have to disconnect the mount from NINA to use the manual slew option in the PA routine. Took quite some time to figure this out. I have posted this issue on the NINA discord but have not received any advice, and to my knowledge there is no manual explaining its use.
 
Any help appreciated. Thanks
 
Luke
 
 


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Nick Iversen
 

Can you post images for the 130GTX? It would be useful to see them.


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Scott Cooke
 

It sounds like it would probably work well on my CFF 185 F6.8 which is also an oiled triplet.  Since the focal length is the same as the TEC 180FL, would the spacing be the same?

Thanks,
Scott

On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 8:26 AM Terri Zittritsch <theresamarie11@...> wrote:

I am really pleased with the performance of QTCC on my TEC140 and if all goes as planned, I'll be able to test it on a 180 in 3 months!

Terri


Availability of Absolute Encoders for Mount Upgrades

M Hambrick
 

I suppose that today could technically be called late Winter or Spring. Is there any update on when there may be some Renishaw encoders available for those on the waiting list to purchase them ? The A-P web site mentions that they would be available in late Winter or Spring, 2022.

Mike


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Terri Zittritsch
 

I am really pleased with the performance of QTCC on my TEC140 and if all goes as planned, I'll be able to test it on a 180 in 3 months!

Terri


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

ap@CaptivePhotons.com
 

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 08:00 PM, Roland Christen wrote:
get some dinner and quaff a 1/2pint.
1/2pint seems inadequate to go with dinner.  :)   

Thanks for the info!

Linwood


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Roland Christen
 

Any other questions you have I will answer on Monday. Gotta go now, get some dinner and quaff a 1/2pint.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: chris1011@...
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2022 6:57 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

The QTCC fits our 3.5" dovetail system that attaches directly to the Starlight 3.5" focuser. I have no idea what the Night Crawler uses.

Right now we have a few Quad TCCs in stock but we are going to be making another run. So they should be available soon.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: ap@... <ap@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2022 6:43 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 07:28 PM, Roland Christen wrote:
Our Quad TCC will certainly cover the full frame IMX455 chip with round stars into the corners for the TEC140F7 ED, TEC140F7FL, TEC160FL, TEC180FL, as well as the Stellarvue SVX152T.
Good to know.  I just ordered the SVX152T with their flattener, but am quite interested in this as a reducer as theirs does not offer much backfocus. 

I assume it would also go on the end of a nitecrawler.   Same thing, with an S35RFAA on the OTA side and step down adapters on the camera side as in the FF-TCC imaging train chart? 

Are  you making these currently, or are they only available used? 

Linwood

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Roland Christen
 

The QTCC fits our 3.5" dovetail system that attaches directly to the Starlight 3.5" focuser. I have no idea what the Night Crawler uses.

Right now we have a few Quad TCCs in stock but we are going to be making another run. So they should be available soon.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: ap@... <ap@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2022 6:43 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 07:28 PM, Roland Christen wrote:
Our Quad TCC will certainly cover the full frame IMX455 chip with round stars into the corners for the TEC140F7 ED, TEC140F7FL, TEC160FL, TEC180FL, as well as the Stellarvue SVX152T.
Good to know.  I just ordered the SVX152T with their flattener, but am quite interested in this as a reducer as theirs does not offer much backfocus. 

I assume it would also go on the end of a nitecrawler.   Same thing, with an S35RFAA on the OTA side and step down adapters on the camera side as in the FF-TCC imaging train chart? 

Are  you making these currently, or are they only available used? 

Linwood

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Roland Christen
 

The TOA is a special beast. I have an idea what the design is, but I'm not certain, so I would be guessing at the correct spacing. Most scopes follow a predictable field curvature, shorter scopes having more, longer having less. When you add large airspaces, it complicates things a bit, in some cases it produces a bit more field curvature.

For the TEC scopes, Yuri provided me the exact optical design, so I didn't have to guess (I had a pretty good idea since oil spaced fluorite lenses have only a very small window of glass types and radii that you can  choose). I doubt that Stellarvue will be as forthcoming, but I can pretty much know what the design is. At F8 it is the easiest to correct for field curvature than the F7 TEC scopes. It also will have a bit more latitude as far as exact rear spacing. With the QTCC it would produce approximately F5.8 with about a 3 degree diffraction limited field.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Long <bill@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2022 6:36 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Duly noted and corrected on CN.

I dont suppose the TOA150 is compatible with the Quad TCC for a big sensor? 🙂

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 4:28 PM
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Subject: [ap-gto] AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes
 
Hi Astronuts,

A little bit of misinformation has crept in again on Cloudy nights about our Quad TCC. This was stated today by a well-meaning person:
"The AP Quad TCC will not produce round stars at the edge of the IMX455." This may be true of our shorter 130GTX but the longer scopes produced by TEC and Stellarvue have less field curvature than the short 130 (longer refractors have longer radius field curvatures and are thus easier to correct).

Our Quad TCC will certainly cover the full frame IMX455 chip with round stars into the corners for the TEC140F7 ED, TEC140F7FL, TEC160FL, TEC180FL, as well as the Stellarvue SVX152T. Spacers are available for these scopes to get the 80.8mm standard back spacing that Canon and Nikon use. All these scopes will produce diffraction limited stars into the corners. The longer 152, 160 and 180 scopes will actually cover a larger circle than the IMX455. Below are some examples of the actual diffraction image (AiryDisc at critical focus) from the center to corner of some of these scopes using the AP Quad TCC.

The Quad TCC will fit nicely into the 3.5" Starlight Feathertouch focusers using our handy dovetail adapter.

TEC140ED:



TEC160FL:


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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Park 1 Error Message #APCC

Ray Gralak
 

THIS WORKED! Many thanks for all your great help!!!!
Okay, excellent! Thanks for letting me know!

I think the settings file must have been locked or corrupted, so the drover wasn't able to save the Park 1 checkbox setting.

-Ray

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