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Re: ASCOM Driver "freezing"?

wbelhaven
 

Just thought I'd tie up this loose end: I bought the FTDI adapter cable recommended by AP and a long-enough serial cable as recommended by Ray and all is working with my PC and mount. No more lockups of the driver. Thanks all.


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Roland Christen
 

No guarantees since the design is proprietary.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Cooke <TSCOOKE64@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Mar 20, 2022 11:17 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

It sounds like it would probably work well on my CFF 185 F6.8 which is also an oiled triplet.  Since the focal length is the same as the TEC 180FL, would the spacing be the same?

Thanks,
Scott

On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 8:26 AM Terri Zittritsch <theresamarie11@...> wrote:
I am really pleased with the performance of QTCC on my TEC140 and if all goes as planned, I'll be able to test it on a 180 in 3 months!

Terri

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Availability of Absolute Encoders for Mount Upgrades

Roland Christen
 

Renishaw has still not been able to supply encoders at the rate we need to fully supply our needs. We keep hoping, but Britain is still in the grip of Omicron unfortunately.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Mar 20, 2022 7:48 am
Subject: [ap-gto] Availability of Absolute Encoders for Mount Upgrades

I suppose that today could technically be called late Winter or Spring. Is there any update on when there may be some Renishaw encoders available for those on the waiting list to purchase them ? The A-P web site mentions that they would be available in late Winter or Spring, 2022.

Mike

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


AP 1200 and NINA PA routine

Luke Dodd
 

Hi
 
Has any used the 3 point polar align routine in NINA’s latest Beta version. I am unable to get the mount to slew from within the NINA”s automatic mode PA routine. I constantly get the error message ‘mount only slewed in RA 0.89 degrees not the 10 degrees required’. I do not use APCC, just connect the mount thru the ascom driver. I have adjusted settings in the NINA plugin menu but they made no difference to the slew. I Adjust slew speed in the ASCOM driver to no effect.
 
I did wrestle with the manual option for polar alignment and after 45min finally had the PA good. The alignment seemed consistent with the PHD2 polar drift routine. Seems you actually have to disconnect the mount from NINA to use the manual slew option in the PA routine. Took quite some time to figure this out. I have posted this issue on the NINA discord but have not received any advice, and to my knowledge there is no manual explaining its use.
 
Any help appreciated. Thanks
 
Luke
 
 


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Nick Iversen
 

Can you post images for the 130GTX? It would be useful to see them.


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Scott Cooke
 

It sounds like it would probably work well on my CFF 185 F6.8 which is also an oiled triplet.  Since the focal length is the same as the TEC 180FL, would the spacing be the same?

Thanks,
Scott

On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 8:26 AM Terri Zittritsch <theresamarie11@...> wrote:

I am really pleased with the performance of QTCC on my TEC140 and if all goes as planned, I'll be able to test it on a 180 in 3 months!

Terri


Availability of Absolute Encoders for Mount Upgrades

M Hambrick
 

I suppose that today could technically be called late Winter or Spring. Is there any update on when there may be some Renishaw encoders available for those on the waiting list to purchase them ? The A-P web site mentions that they would be available in late Winter or Spring, 2022.

Mike


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Terri Zittritsch
 

I am really pleased with the performance of QTCC on my TEC140 and if all goes as planned, I'll be able to test it on a 180 in 3 months!

Terri


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

ap@CaptivePhotons.com
 

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 08:00 PM, Roland Christen wrote:
get some dinner and quaff a 1/2pint.
1/2pint seems inadequate to go with dinner.  :)   

Thanks for the info!

Linwood


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Roland Christen
 

Any other questions you have I will answer on Monday. Gotta go now, get some dinner and quaff a 1/2pint.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: chris1011@...
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2022 6:57 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

The QTCC fits our 3.5" dovetail system that attaches directly to the Starlight 3.5" focuser. I have no idea what the Night Crawler uses.

Right now we have a few Quad TCCs in stock but we are going to be making another run. So they should be available soon.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: ap@... <ap@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2022 6:43 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 07:28 PM, Roland Christen wrote:
Our Quad TCC will certainly cover the full frame IMX455 chip with round stars into the corners for the TEC140F7 ED, TEC140F7FL, TEC160FL, TEC180FL, as well as the Stellarvue SVX152T.
Good to know.  I just ordered the SVX152T with their flattener, but am quite interested in this as a reducer as theirs does not offer much backfocus. 

I assume it would also go on the end of a nitecrawler.   Same thing, with an S35RFAA on the OTA side and step down adapters on the camera side as in the FF-TCC imaging train chart? 

Are  you making these currently, or are they only available used? 

Linwood

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Roland Christen
 

The QTCC fits our 3.5" dovetail system that attaches directly to the Starlight 3.5" focuser. I have no idea what the Night Crawler uses.

Right now we have a few Quad TCCs in stock but we are going to be making another run. So they should be available soon.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: ap@... <ap@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2022 6:43 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 07:28 PM, Roland Christen wrote:
Our Quad TCC will certainly cover the full frame IMX455 chip with round stars into the corners for the TEC140F7 ED, TEC140F7FL, TEC160FL, TEC180FL, as well as the Stellarvue SVX152T.
Good to know.  I just ordered the SVX152T with their flattener, but am quite interested in this as a reducer as theirs does not offer much backfocus. 

I assume it would also go on the end of a nitecrawler.   Same thing, with an S35RFAA on the OTA side and step down adapters on the camera side as in the FF-TCC imaging train chart? 

Are  you making these currently, or are they only available used? 

Linwood

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Roland Christen
 

The TOA is a special beast. I have an idea what the design is, but I'm not certain, so I would be guessing at the correct spacing. Most scopes follow a predictable field curvature, shorter scopes having more, longer having less. When you add large airspaces, it complicates things a bit, in some cases it produces a bit more field curvature.

For the TEC scopes, Yuri provided me the exact optical design, so I didn't have to guess (I had a pretty good idea since oil spaced fluorite lenses have only a very small window of glass types and radii that you can  choose). I doubt that Stellarvue will be as forthcoming, but I can pretty much know what the design is. At F8 it is the easiest to correct for field curvature than the F7 TEC scopes. It also will have a bit more latitude as far as exact rear spacing. With the QTCC it would produce approximately F5.8 with about a 3 degree diffraction limited field.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Long <bill@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2022 6:36 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Duly noted and corrected on CN.

I dont suppose the TOA150 is compatible with the Quad TCC for a big sensor? 🙂

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 4:28 PM
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Cc: george@... <george@...>; marj@... <marj@...>; karen@... <karen@...>
Subject: [ap-gto] AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes
 
Hi Astronuts,

A little bit of misinformation has crept in again on Cloudy nights about our Quad TCC. This was stated today by a well-meaning person:
"The AP Quad TCC will not produce round stars at the edge of the IMX455." This may be true of our shorter 130GTX but the longer scopes produced by TEC and Stellarvue have less field curvature than the short 130 (longer refractors have longer radius field curvatures and are thus easier to correct).

Our Quad TCC will certainly cover the full frame IMX455 chip with round stars into the corners for the TEC140F7 ED, TEC140F7FL, TEC160FL, TEC180FL, as well as the Stellarvue SVX152T. Spacers are available for these scopes to get the 80.8mm standard back spacing that Canon and Nikon use. All these scopes will produce diffraction limited stars into the corners. The longer 152, 160 and 180 scopes will actually cover a larger circle than the IMX455. Below are some examples of the actual diffraction image (AiryDisc at critical focus) from the center to corner of some of these scopes using the AP Quad TCC.

The Quad TCC will fit nicely into the 3.5" Starlight Feathertouch focusers using our handy dovetail adapter.

TEC140ED:



TEC160FL:


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Park 1 Error Message #APCC

Ray Gralak
 

THIS WORKED! Many thanks for all your great help!!!!
Okay, excellent! Thanks for letting me know!

I think the settings file must have been locked or corrupted, so the drover wasn't able to save the Park 1 checkbox setting.

-Ray


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Bill Long
 

Ron makes a WR35 to AP Dovetail adapter for the Quad TCC and AP 3.5" 130FF Field Flattener. You thread that onto the Drawtube or one of the Extensions and slide the Quad TCC in that adapter and secure it with 3 large set screws. Alternatively, you could have Ron make a WR35 to 4.100” x 24 tpi adapter, then thread this onto it: 3.5" Rotating Focuser Endcap. Required for TEC Refractors to use QUADTCC. Threads into TEC Focusers (S35RFAA) - Astro-Physics but that would cost much more than just the single adapter from Ron that works great.



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of ap@... <ap@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 4:43 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes
 
On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 07:28 PM, Roland Christen wrote:
Our Quad TCC will certainly cover the full frame IMX455 chip with round stars into the corners for the TEC140F7 ED, TEC140F7FL, TEC160FL, TEC180FL, as well as the Stellarvue SVX152T.
Good to know.  I just ordered the SVX152T with their flattener, but am quite interested in this as a reducer as theirs does not offer much backfocus. 

I assume it would also go on the end of a nitecrawler.   Same thing, with an S35RFAA on the OTA side and step down adapters on the camera side as in the FF-TCC imaging train chart? 

Are  you making these currently, or are they only available used? 

Linwood


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

ap@CaptivePhotons.com
 

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 07:28 PM, Roland Christen wrote:
Our Quad TCC will certainly cover the full frame IMX455 chip with round stars into the corners for the TEC140F7 ED, TEC140F7FL, TEC160FL, TEC180FL, as well as the Stellarvue SVX152T.
Good to know.  I just ordered the SVX152T with their flattener, but am quite interested in this as a reducer as theirs does not offer much backfocus. 

I assume it would also go on the end of a nitecrawler.   Same thing, with an S35RFAA on the OTA side and step down adapters on the camera side as in the FF-TCC imaging train chart? 

Are  you making these currently, or are they only available used? 

Linwood


Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Bill Long
 

Duly noted and corrected on CN.

I dont suppose the TOA150 is compatible with the Quad TCC for a big sensor? 🙂


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 4:28 PM
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Cc: george@... <george@...>; marj@... <marj@...>; karen@... <karen@...>
Subject: [ap-gto] AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes
 
Hi Astronuts,

A little bit of misinformation has crept in again on Cloudy nights about our Quad TCC. This was stated today by a well-meaning person:
"The AP Quad TCC will not produce round stars at the edge of the IMX455." This may be true of our shorter 130GTX but the longer scopes produced by TEC and Stellarvue have less field curvature than the short 130 (longer refractors have longer radius field curvatures and are thus easier to correct).

Our Quad TCC will certainly cover the full frame IMX455 chip with round stars into the corners for the TEC140F7 ED, TEC140F7FL, TEC160FL, TEC180FL, as well as the Stellarvue SVX152T. Spacers are available for these scopes to get the 80.8mm standard back spacing that Canon and Nikon use. All these scopes will produce diffraction limited stars into the corners. The longer 152, 160 and 180 scopes will actually cover a larger circle than the IMX455. Below are some examples of the actual diffraction image (AiryDisc at critical focus) from the center to corner of some of these scopes using the AP Quad TCC.

The Quad TCC will fit nicely into the 3.5" Starlight Feathertouch focusers using our handy dovetail adapter.

TEC140ED:



TEC160FL:


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Roland Christen
 

Hi Astronuts,

A little bit of misinformation has crept in again on Cloudy nights about our Quad TCC. This was stated today by a well-meaning person:
"The AP Quad TCC will not produce round stars at the edge of the IMX455." This may be true of our shorter 130GTX but the longer scopes produced by TEC and Stellarvue have less field curvature than the short 130 (longer refractors have longer radius field curvatures and are thus easier to correct).

Our Quad TCC will certainly cover the full frame IMX455 chip with round stars into the corners for the TEC140F7 ED, TEC140F7FL, TEC160FL, TEC180FL, as well as the Stellarvue SVX152T. Spacers are available for these scopes to get the 80.8mm standard back spacing that Canon and Nikon use. All these scopes will produce diffraction limited stars into the corners. The longer 152, 160 and 180 scopes will actually cover a larger circle than the IMX455. Below are some examples of the actual diffraction image (AiryDisc at critical focus) from the center to corner of some of these scopes using the AP Quad TCC.

The Quad TCC will fit nicely into the 3.5" Starlight Feathertouch focusers using our handy dovetail adapter.

TEC140ED:



TEC160FL:


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Park 1 Error Message #APCC

dnakic@...
 

THIS WORKED!  Many thanks for all your great help!!!!


Re: Park 1 Error Message #APCC

dnakic@...
 

Here is the Zip file based on the selections you requested.


Re: Park 1 Error Message #APCC

Ray Gralak
 

One other thing I noticed is all of those Park 1 warning messages are coming from the ASCOM driver, not APCC. It may be that the ASCOM driver's setting file is corrupted or locked.

So, with the ASCOM driver and APCC shutdown:

1. Rename Settings.apdb (full path below) to Settings1.apdb. This will force the driver to create a new settings file the next time it is run.

C:\ProgramData\Astro-Physics\Settings.apdb

2. Run the ASCOM driver's setup and set the Unpark position to Park 1. This will immediately pop up the Park 1 dialog box warning.
3. Check the "Don't Show this warning again" checkbox and close the dialog window.
4. Click "OK" on the driver's setup window to close the window down.
5. Open the driver's setup again. You should not get a Park 1 pop-up warning.
6. Configure the rest of the driver's settings as you had set before and click OK to close the driver's setup.
7. Open APCC as you did before and click the "Now" button in APCC's "AP V2 Driver" group box. This will configure the driver's settings. There will be at least two pop-up windows to which you will need to click OK.
8. Connect APCC to the mount, if not already connected.
9. Connect APCC to the driver. There should be no more pop-up dialogs.

After you try this, please confirm that you no longer get the pop-up dialogs.

-Ray

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