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Re: AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Bill Long
 

Duly noted and corrected on CN.

I dont suppose the TOA150 is compatible with the Quad TCC for a big sensor? 🙂


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 4:28 PM
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Subject: [ap-gto] AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes
 
Hi Astronuts,

A little bit of misinformation has crept in again on Cloudy nights about our Quad TCC. This was stated today by a well-meaning person:
"The AP Quad TCC will not produce round stars at the edge of the IMX455." This may be true of our shorter 130GTX but the longer scopes produced by TEC and Stellarvue have less field curvature than the short 130 (longer refractors have longer radius field curvatures and are thus easier to correct).

Our Quad TCC will certainly cover the full frame IMX455 chip with round stars into the corners for the TEC140F7 ED, TEC140F7FL, TEC160FL, TEC180FL, as well as the Stellarvue SVX152T. Spacers are available for these scopes to get the 80.8mm standard back spacing that Canon and Nikon use. All these scopes will produce diffraction limited stars into the corners. The longer 152, 160 and 180 scopes will actually cover a larger circle than the IMX455. Below are some examples of the actual diffraction image (AiryDisc at critical focus) from the center to corner of some of these scopes using the AP Quad TCC.

The Quad TCC will fit nicely into the 3.5" Starlight Feathertouch focusers using our handy dovetail adapter.

TEC140ED:



TEC160FL:


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


AP Quad TCC with TEC and Stellarvue scopes

Roland Christen
 

Hi Astronuts,

A little bit of misinformation has crept in again on Cloudy nights about our Quad TCC. This was stated today by a well-meaning person:
"The AP Quad TCC will not produce round stars at the edge of the IMX455." This may be true of our shorter 130GTX but the longer scopes produced by TEC and Stellarvue have less field curvature than the short 130 (longer refractors have longer radius field curvatures and are thus easier to correct).

Our Quad TCC will certainly cover the full frame IMX455 chip with round stars into the corners for the TEC140F7 ED, TEC140F7FL, TEC160FL, TEC180FL, as well as the Stellarvue SVX152T. Spacers are available for these scopes to get the 80.8mm standard back spacing that Canon and Nikon use. All these scopes will produce diffraction limited stars into the corners. The longer 152, 160 and 180 scopes will actually cover a larger circle than the IMX455. Below are some examples of the actual diffraction image (AiryDisc at critical focus) from the center to corner of some of these scopes using the AP Quad TCC.

The Quad TCC will fit nicely into the 3.5" Starlight Feathertouch focusers using our handy dovetail adapter.

TEC140ED:



TEC160FL:


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Park 1 Error Message #APCC

dnakic@...
 

THIS WORKED!  Many thanks for all your great help!!!!


Re: Park 1 Error Message #APCC

dnakic@...
 

Here is the Zip file based on the selections you requested.


Re: Park 1 Error Message #APCC

Ray Gralak
 

One other thing I noticed is all of those Park 1 warning messages are coming from the ASCOM driver, not APCC. It may be that the ASCOM driver's setting file is corrupted or locked.

So, with the ASCOM driver and APCC shutdown:

1. Rename Settings.apdb (full path below) to Settings1.apdb. This will force the driver to create a new settings file the next time it is run.

C:\ProgramData\Astro-Physics\Settings.apdb

2. Run the ASCOM driver's setup and set the Unpark position to Park 1. This will immediately pop up the Park 1 dialog box warning.
3. Check the "Don't Show this warning again" checkbox and close the dialog window.
4. Click "OK" on the driver's setup window to close the window down.
5. Open the driver's setup again. You should not get a Park 1 pop-up warning.
6. Configure the rest of the driver's settings as you had set before and click OK to close the driver's setup.
7. Open APCC as you did before and click the "Now" button in APCC's "AP V2 Driver" group box. This will configure the driver's settings. There will be at least two pop-up windows to which you will need to click OK.
8. Connect APCC to the mount, if not already connected.
9. Connect APCC to the driver. There should be no more pop-up dialogs.

After you try this, please confirm that you no longer get the pop-up dialogs.

-Ray


Re: AP600 vs Mach 1

Bill Long
 

Fair enough. My other option is to pray for the rebirth of the AP400 with the encoder on it  😀



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 9:38 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP600 vs Mach 1
 
I have seen people put 8" Newtonians on the 400 mount. However, these are yesteryear mounts without the sophistication of today's software. Kind of bare bones tracking in their stepper drives.

Here's a recent discussion on CN: https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/814167-what-is-ap400-worth/page-2#entry11783107

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Long <bill@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Mar 18, 2022 7:33 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP600 vs Mach 1

Thanks looks like it was a non GOTO version.

The AP400GTO is listed at 18lbs capacity. What I'm hunting for is something very portable that will perform great imaging with the Stowaway, GTX, or my e160ED. 

Is there some room in that 18lbs? 🤔



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 5:15 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP600 vs Mach 1
 
The 600E can hold more than 30lb.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Long <bill@...>
To: AP-GTO Groups.io <ap-gto@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Mar 18, 2022 7:10 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] AP600 vs Mach 1

Looking around the used market and had a question. The Mach 1 is rated at 65lbs capacity and the 600E at 30 lbs. Other than likely price differences, is there any advantage to the 600E? Weight of each is negligible.

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Roland Christen
Astro-Physics

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: CP4 Field Control

Christopher M
 

Thank you
C


Re: AP600 vs Mach 1

Roland Christen
 

Chris, I have no doubt that you will win that race! Smile

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Mar 18, 2022 10:36 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP600 vs Mach 1

I thought that was gonna be me. Or at least Roland thinks so...

-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 7:57 PM Peter Nagy <topboxman@...> wrote:
Good plan 👍 

Peter 

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: AP600 vs Mach 1

Roland Christen
 

I have seen people put 8" Newtonians on the 400 mount. However, these are yesteryear mounts without the sophistication of today's software. Kind of bare bones tracking in their stepper drives.

Here's a recent discussion on CN: https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/814167-what-is-ap400-worth/page-2#entry11783107

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Long <bill@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Mar 18, 2022 7:33 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP600 vs Mach 1

Thanks looks like it was a non GOTO version.

The AP400GTO is listed at 18lbs capacity. What I'm hunting for is something very portable that will perform great imaging with the Stowaway, GTX, or my e160ED. 

Is there some room in that 18lbs? 🤔



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 5:15 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP600 vs Mach 1
 
The 600E can hold more than 30lb.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Long <bill@...>
To: AP-GTO Groups.io <ap-gto@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Mar 18, 2022 7:10 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] AP600 vs Mach 1

Looking around the used market and had a question. The Mach 1 is rated at 65lbs capacity and the 600E at 30 lbs. Other than likely price differences, is there any advantage to the 600E? Weight of each is negligible.

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Park 1 Error Message #APCC

Ray Gralak
 

BTW, if the zip file is too large, you may not be able to post it here, so you will have to share it via a link through DropBox, Google Docs, etc. If you want, you can email the link privately to me at this email:

 

iogroups AT siriusimaging DOT com

 

And to create the zip file, just open APCC and from the Tools menu, select “Log Zipper…”. Here is a screenshot with more details on what to select:


 

-Ray


Re: Park 1 Error Message #APCC

Ray Gralak
 

I followed exactly what you did and I do not see the popup's you are seeing. The only reason that popup should show up is if you are unparking from Park 1, however when you connected to the driver in APCC it looks like the mount is already unparked (shown in APCC's status bar) so I don't understand why APCC would be trying any park or unpark operation.

Using APCC's log zipper, please zip the APCC *and* driver logs for the last day and post the zip file here.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of dnakic via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 6:34 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Park 1 Error Message #APCC

Enclosed is a screen shot of APCC Park Screen and video of issue. Let me know if you need anything else.


Re: Park 1 Error Message #APCC

dnakic@...
 

Enclosed is a screen shot of APCC Park Screen and video of issue.  Let me know if you need anything else.


Re: AP600 vs Mach 1

Scott Cooke
 

I have to admit, I really want the AP400 to be better.  It is so much better craftsmanship.


On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 12:13 AM Scott Cooke <tscooke64@...> wrote:
I might just sell it to you but I have to figure out if it is better guiding than my iOptron40EC first.  I think 1000 second subs at .25-.33 rms are pretty good.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 11:44 PM Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:
Thanks Scott. You definitely should sell it to me then. 🙂 I think this is a perfect solution for what I am looking for.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Scott Cooke <TSCOOKE64@...>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 8:41 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP600 vs Mach 1
 
This is what company 7 says about AP400 capacity, having had a 130GTX and an AP400, it would handle it no problem.  I don't know where the 18lb figure came from.  It is a stout little mount.
FEATURES
SPECIFICATIONS OF EQUATORIAL HEAD
Right ascension: 10 minute increments, pointer engraved both Northern/Southern
Declination: 1 degree increments, pointer
Capacity: will accommodate refractors up to 5", reflectors to 6", Cassegrains to 9.25"
Weight of equatorial head: 20 lbs (9.1 kg)

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 10:57 PM Peter Nagy <topboxman@...> wrote:
Good plan 👍 

Peter 


Re: AP600 vs Mach 1

Scott Cooke
 

I might just sell it to you but I have to figure out if it is better guiding than my iOptron40EC first.  I think 1000 second subs at .25-.33 rms are pretty good.


On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 11:44 PM Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:
Thanks Scott. You definitely should sell it to me then. 🙂 I think this is a perfect solution for what I am looking for.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Scott Cooke <TSCOOKE64@...>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 8:41 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP600 vs Mach 1
 
This is what company 7 says about AP400 capacity, having had a 130GTX and an AP400, it would handle it no problem.  I don't know where the 18lb figure came from.  It is a stout little mount.
FEATURES
SPECIFICATIONS OF EQUATORIAL HEAD
Right ascension: 10 minute increments, pointer engraved both Northern/Southern
Declination: 1 degree increments, pointer
Capacity: will accommodate refractors up to 5", reflectors to 6", Cassegrains to 9.25"
Weight of equatorial head: 20 lbs (9.1 kg)

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 10:57 PM Peter Nagy <topboxman@...> wrote:
Good plan 👍 

Peter 


Re: AP600 vs Mach 1

Bill Long
 

Thanks Scott. You definitely should sell it to me then. 🙂 I think this is a perfect solution for what I am looking for.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Scott Cooke <TSCOOKE64@...>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 8:41 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP600 vs Mach 1
 
This is what company 7 says about AP400 capacity, having had a 130GTX and an AP400, it would handle it no problem.  I don't know where the 18lb figure came from.  It is a stout little mount.
FEATURES
SPECIFICATIONS OF EQUATORIAL HEAD
Right ascension: 10 minute increments, pointer engraved both Northern/Southern
Declination: 1 degree increments, pointer
Capacity: will accommodate refractors up to 5", reflectors to 6", Cassegrains to 9.25"
Weight of equatorial head: 20 lbs (9.1 kg)

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 10:57 PM Peter Nagy <topboxman@...> wrote:
Good plan 👍 

Peter 


Re: AP600 vs Mach 1

Scott Cooke
 

This is what company 7 says about AP400 capacity, having had a 130GTX and an AP400, it would handle it no problem.  I don't know where the 18lb figure came from.  It is a stout little mount.
FEATURES
SPECIFICATIONS OF EQUATORIAL HEAD
Right ascension:10 minute increments, pointer engraved both Northern/Southern
Declination:1 degree increments, pointer
Capacity:will accommodate refractors up to 5", reflectors to 6", Cassegrains to 9.25"
Weight of equatorial head:20 lbs (9.1 kg)


On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 10:57 PM Peter Nagy <topboxman@...> wrote:
Good plan 👍 

Peter 


Re: AP600 vs Mach 1

Christopher Erickson
 

I thought that was gonna be me. Or at least Roland thinks so...

-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 7:57 PM Peter Nagy <topboxman@...> wrote:
Good plan 👍 

Peter 


Re: AP600 vs Mach 1

Peter Nagy
 

Good plan 👍 

Peter 


Re: AP600 vs Mach 1

Bill Long
 

That is a side goal. 😉 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Peter Nagy <topboxman@...>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 7:42 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP600 vs Mach 1
 
Are you trying to win "the person who dies with the most toys win" contest? 😀 

Peter


Re: AP600 vs Mach 1

Peter Nagy
 

Are you trying to win "the person who dies with the most toys win" contest? 😀 

Peter

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