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Re: APCC new install error

Dale Ghent
 

Ray would likely have deeper knowledge of what might (not) be happening here. The only remaining thing I can think of is that anti-virus is pulling shenanigans. Are you running anything other than the stock Windows Defender? If so, I would try disabling it temporarily while installing APCC. I presume you're running Windows 10?

On Dec 14, 2021, at 22:29, midmoastro <teche70@...> wrote:

checking the error log first, I do see the following:

GetCurrentUtcOffset, Current Time Zone offset for '(UTC-06:00) Central Time (US & Canada)' is -6
0000020 2021-12-14 21:22:49.173: Info, Async Window, <*closing*>
0000021 2021-12-14 21:22:50.005: Info, TimedMsgBox, Timeout (msecs): 5000, Message: Error creating virtual port 1 control: Class not registered (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80040154 (REGDB_E_CLASSNOTREG))
0000022 2021-12-14 21:22:55.015: Info, TimedMsgBox, NO USER RESPONSE: Using default button 1
0000023 2021-12-14 21:22:55.016: Info, TimedMsgBox, Button 2 clicked (&OK). Result code OK
0000024 2021-12-14 21:22:55.017: Info, TimedMsgBox, CLOSING: OK, Original Message: Error creating virtual port 1 control: Class not registered (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80040154 (REGDB_E_CLASSNOTREG))
0000025 2021-12-14 21:22:55.024: Info, Environmental, EnablePolling = True
0000026 2021-12-14 21:22:55.025: Info, Environmental, Polling Interval = 10 (secs)
0000027 2021-12-14 21:22:55.027: Info, Environmental, DeviceType = THUM
0000028 2021-12-14 21:22:55.068: Error, THUM, Error Reading THUM = 2


Re: APCC new install error

midmoastro
 

checking the error log first, I do see the following:

GetCurrentUtcOffset, Current Time Zone offset for '(UTC-06:00) Central Time (US & Canada)' is -6
0000020 2021-12-14 21:22:49.173:       Info,    Async Window, <*closing*>
0000021 2021-12-14 21:22:50.005:       Info,     TimedMsgBox, Timeout (msecs): 5000, Message: Error creating virtual port 1 control: Class not registered (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80040154 (REGDB_E_CLASSNOTREG))
0000022 2021-12-14 21:22:55.015:       Info,     TimedMsgBox, NO USER RESPONSE: Using default button 1
0000023 2021-12-14 21:22:55.016:       Info,     TimedMsgBox, Button 2 clicked (&OK). Result code OK
0000024 2021-12-14 21:22:55.017:       Info,     TimedMsgBox, CLOSING: OK, Original Message: Error creating virtual port 1 control: Class not registered (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80040154 (REGDB_E_CLASSNOTREG))
0000025 2021-12-14 21:22:55.024:       Info,   Environmental, EnablePolling = True
0000026 2021-12-14 21:22:55.025:       Info,   Environmental, Polling Interval = 10 (secs)
0000027 2021-12-14 21:22:55.027:       Info,   Environmental, DeviceType = THUM
0000028 2021-12-14 21:22:55.068:      Error,            THUM, Error Reading THUM = 2


Re: APCC new install error

midmoastro
 

reboot in between makes no difference. After the install, though, there are several settings files left over. Im thinking about deleting everything under the Astro-Physics folder and trying it again. I can replace that stuff with the content of my laptop which does work.


Re: APCC new install error

midmoastro
 

Uninstalled. Right-clicked and ran as admin but still the same issue. Is a reboot needed between the uninstall and reinstall?
Very odd.


Re: APCC new install error

Dale Ghent
 

The kind of error you're getting makes me wonder. Uninstall APCC, then try installing again (the beta) but this time, right click the installer .exe file and "Run as administrator"

On Dec 14, 2021, at 21:49, midmoastro <teche70@...> wrote:

Same error. I wonder if I need to remove other files/remnants after the uninstall of APCC 1.9.0.11?


Re: APCC new install error

midmoastro
 

Same error. I wonder if I need to remove other files/remnants after the uninstall of APCC 1.9.0.11?


Re: APCC new install error

midmoastro
 

I have not, thank you Dale. I will try this and report back
Todd


Re: APCC new install error

Dale Ghent
 

Try the current beta installer instead? There are a bunch of improvements in this area.

https://www.apastrosoftware.com/apcc_download/APCC_Pro_BETA_Setup_1.9.2.5.exe

On Dec 14, 2021, at 21:21, midmoastro <teche70@...> wrote:

Beginning to wonder if this might be similar to my issue
https://ap-gto.groups.io/g/main/topic/eltima_virtual_ports/87262959?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate/sticky,,,20,2,0,87262959,previd=1638259245354554293,nextid=1637626116085467712&previd=1638259245354554293&nextid=1637626116085467712


RAPAS bracket gap on Mach2? #Mach2GTO

Jeff Kraehnke
 

Not sure if this is a problem or not, but couldn't find mention of it anywhere so I thought I'd ask.  When I insert the RAPAS into the mounting bracket on my Mach2, it doesn't slide all the way in.  Comparing it to images from the RAPAS manual, I see that it inserts what appears to be all the way to the housing.  Is this a problem or am I doing something wrong?  Best I can tell it only goes one way.  And yes, the thumbscrew is not preventing it from going in further.  The geometry is I believe.  Thanks.

Jeff


Re: APCC new install error

midmoastro
 


Re: APCC new install error

midmoastro
 

Thank you Brian. I installed: APCC Pro v1.9.0.11
I looked to see if Eltima showed in Add/Remove programs but couldnt find it there.
I also went to my current working laptop to see if it was installed there as well and could not find it so its hard to tell if it installed correct or not.
Or if that is in fact the issue
Todd


Re: [ap-ug] M33 with 92mm Stowaway, combining RGB, H-alpha, and O-III

Dale Ghent
 

I never did get the CFF flattener because it wasn't available when I received the CFF92, and I wanted to try to find a reducer+flattener system that had the same (or very close to the same) BFL so they could be interchangeable using the same Precise Parts adapter, with only a few shims of difference between them. But that didn't happen and all I've been using is the M63 reducer. That was perfectly fine with the 4/3 sensor in the ASI1600 I was using on it. The QHY268 pushes it just enough more that it's flaking out rapidly at the corners, as f/4.5 light cones are good at doing. I'm sure APS-C would be fine corner-to-corner on the slower f/6.9 version of the CFF92 with this reducer.

A "unicorn" solution, for me at least, would be this super reducer that can be stuffed into the rear of a 3" FTF or Nitecrawler, with a paired flattener that has the same BFL to keep framing options open without much ado when it comes to adapter configuration.

On Dec 13, 2021, at 15:42, Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:

Well this is good information. The CFF92 was the other scope I thought of for being in the game for a well corrected field. Sounds like it's not terrible with the reducer, but could be improved on.

What about the flattener? Can it cover the IMX455.

Either way, sounds like more positive data for the AP92 upgrade option for the full frame capability and the TCC.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Dale Ghent <daleg@...>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 6:13 AM
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>
Cc: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] [ap-ug] M33 with 92mm Stowaway, combining RGB, H-alpha, and O-III

It’s something I would be interested in, and I don’t even have a Stowaway. I have a CFF 92 f/6 refractor and the M63 APM-Riccardi reducer that have been using on it is baaaaarely passable, with some leniency, when using it with my APS-C sensor. I’m using an OAG with this scope since it’s a compact travel imager, so its pick-off mirror is definitely sitting outside the corrected area in order to avoid intruding into the sensor’s fov. A larger corrected field is certainty something that I miss and would jump at the opportunity to have, even if it meant a focuser upgrade (my CFF 92 came with a 3” FTF; an improved optical design similar to the M63 format or a little larger, would be fine in my case.)

The APS-C Sony IMX571 sensor that is now in many CMOS astrocams is a fantastic sensor and is fairly accessible in terms of price, which is fueling its rise as a common sensor to see now. It’s the smaller cousin of the full-frame IMX455 which is also popular, of course. A TCC and flattener that could competently handle both would be noticed. Other makes of (mainly Chinese) refractors in the 90-110mm range also lack a competent reducer/flattener for these sensor sizes and one could find use with those.

On Dec 11, 2021, at 19:33, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


It's certainly possible to design and build a super sharp telecompressor for the 92 Stowaway to cover the full frame CMOS cameras with sharp round stars into the corners with no vignetting. It would require 3 things, a more exotic compressor design, a larger focuser and market for it. It would be more or less a super astrograph, rather than a small fun portable scope, plus it would cost more. Is the interest there or not, that is the question.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Dec 11, 2021 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] M33 with 92mm Stowaway, combining RGB, H-alpha, and O-III

Tonight I'm shooting in very clear skies, very cold sub-freezing, but poor seeing. Moon is also nearby.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Weiner <weinere@...>
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Dec 11, 2021 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] M33 with 92mm Stowaway, combining RGB, H-alpha, and O-III

Thanks Roland. I have the 92FF as well. Just exploring my options. Focal length of 644 vs 488, a 1’x0.7’ delta. That’s worth the trouble of flats for some targets imho. Our skies in Colorado have been terrible so I haven’t had a chance to experiment with the TCC myself yet. I just got it on Monday.

Eric





Re: APCC new install error

 

what version of APCC are you installing?

I agree it sounds like an issue with Eltima software, although it should install (silently i believe) with APCC

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 4:45 PM midmoastro <teche70@...> wrote:
I'm installing APCC on a new Intel NUC and having some issues that I didnt have with my prior laptop install.
I've been following the document and dont think I've missed anything.
I installed in this order:
1. Update to .NET Framework 4.7.2 or later (if needed) ( I actually have 3.5 and 4.8 installed)
2. Install the ASCOM Platform 6.5 SP1 (complete)
3. Install the AP V2 ASCOM Driver (complete)
4. Install APCC (complete)

I also saw the black box pop up but never got a prompt to install the Eltima software. So maybe this is the issue?
I entered my software key in APCC without issue.

After launching APCC, I get the following error. Any ideas what this may be related to? Did I miss something?



--
Brian 



Brian Valente


APCC new install error

midmoastro
 

I'm installing APCC on a new Intel NUC and having some issues that I didnt have with my prior laptop install.
I've been following the document and dont think I've missed anything.
I installed in this order:
1. Update to .NET Framework 4.7.2 or later (if needed) ( I actually have 3.5 and 4.8 installed)
2. Install the ASCOM Platform 6.5 SP1 (complete)
3. Install the AP V2 ASCOM Driver (complete)
4. Install APCC (complete)

I also saw the black box pop up but never got a prompt to install the Eltima software. So maybe this is the issue?
I entered my software key in APCC without issue.

After launching APCC, I get the following error. Any ideas what this may be related to? Did I miss something?


Re: APCC Not Restarting Cleanly

Bob Denny
 

I know this is old, sorry it's  been on my queue too long:

They can be two separate connections to the telescope - one from ACP and the other from MaximDL. In your script, I see that ACP is disconnecting from the telescope, but I do not see a call disconnecting MaximDL from the telescope.
MaxIm, when used with ACP never connects the Telescope (or anything else!) in its own Observatory Control. ACP is in charge of slewing the scope etc. However, if the guider uses Pulse Guiding, then MaxIm will use a connection from the guider logic ("ASCOM Direct") only for the purpose of providing guiding corrections. In this case, connecting and disconnecting the Camera (MaxIm's CCDCamera object) results in connecting and disconnecting from the telescope. In Jerry's case

        Camera.LinkEnabled = false;
        Util.CameraConnected = false;            // Disconnect it from ACP
        Console.PrintLine("OK, imager shutdown complete.");

Is releasing MaxIm's connection to the telescope.

I need to review with Jerry though, on how he is getting his "dangerous low hjanging rolloff" closed safely. I believe you changed (rightly) Park() from sync to async, right? His script may be trying to disconnect the telescope while it is still parking. I'll let you know.


General Questions about new AP1600

Scott B
 


Hello All -

I'm the proud new owner of an AP 1600. As I get started with it, I'm hoping some of the experienced observers and imagers can weigh in on a few questions.

Circumstances gave me a once in a lifetime opportunity to design and build a permanently housed observatory as part of a new home construction. We are going to have a Meade LX 850 OTA side-by-side with an AP 130mm refractor, mounted onto the AP 1600. This is all a big step up from my current rig, an AVX mount controlled by CPWI and PhD2 , SV70 OTA, ZWO 183 OSC camera, using Sharpcap for imaging.
I've used sharpcap for polar alignment and I'm reasonably confident that I'll be able to get the AP mount aligned accurately.

The plan for the new observatory is imaging only for the 130mm OTA, while the 16'' SCT will be used for visual as well as imaging small DSOs like planetaries and probably the planets too. Down the road I'd love to get into photometry when I have the time to dedicate to it.

I haven't chosen a camera yet for the refractor. A camera with 3.75 micrometer pixels would yield an image scale of about 1.33''/pixel for the 130mm (there is a focal reducer). I am near the Atlantic ocean - a block away - would the seeing over the ocean allow me to be more aggressive about a smaller image scale? FWIW I've yet to image in monochrome or use an autofocuser, so this will be another piece of the learning curve.

I plan to run the Pegasus Ultimate Powerbox 2 thru the mount to connect and power the cameras and accessories. Would any other cables need to go thru? I'd like to get everything setup in such a way that I can leave all the heavy parts of the mount in place permanently, so I'm trying to plan out cable management in advance.

Some other questions -

Do most users prefer APCC or ASCOM?

Do most imagers use PhD to guide, or other software?

I've never used an OAG - will this be a necessity for imaging with the LX850?

Finally, when it comes to this new mount and OTAs, I don't know what I don't know, so any experiences you consider worth sharing are appreciated. Thanks very much

Scott B


Re: APCC log question

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Mike,

I just redid my PE correction with PemPro and that had improved matters quite a bit. If you have any
suggestions about measuring and correcting drift, I’m all ears.
APCC Pro can do full-sky or declination-arc drift correction.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hayford, Michael
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 1:05 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC log question

Hi Ray,
I just redid my PE correction with PemPro and that had improved matters quite a bit. If you have any
suggestions about measuring and correcting drift, I’m all ears.
Thanks for your reply.
Mike

On Dec 14, 2021, at 5:33 AM, Ray Gralak <iogroups@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

I seem to have fat-fingered the PEM setting in APCC Pro last night and I was wondering whether the PEM
change gets written to the APCC log file. This would help me separate causes of tracking problems.
If you are worried about tracking performance, it is best to capture some unguided data using PEMPro or
PHD2 and look at the
periodic error and drift. If you need more specific instructions, let me know.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hayford, Michael
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 12:19 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Cc: Michael Hayford
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC log question

I seem to have fat-fingered the PEM setting in APCC Pro last night and I was wondering whether the PEM
change gets written to the APCC log file. This would help me separate causes of tracking problems.
Thanks in advance.
Mike Hayford








Re: APCC log question

Hayford, Michael
 

Hi Ray,
I just redid my PE correction with PemPro and that had improved matters quite a bit. If you have any suggestions about measuring and correcting drift, I’m all ears.
Thanks for your reply.
Mike

On Dec 14, 2021, at 5:33 AM, Ray Gralak <iogroups@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

I seem to have fat-fingered the PEM setting in APCC Pro last night and I was wondering whether the PEM
change gets written to the APCC log file. This would help me separate causes of tracking problems.
If you are worried about tracking performance, it is best to capture some unguided data using PEMPro or PHD2 and look at the
periodic error and drift. If you need more specific instructions, let me know.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hayford, Michael
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 12:19 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Cc: Michael Hayford
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC log question

I seem to have fat-fingered the PEM setting in APCC Pro last night and I was wondering whether the PEM
change gets written to the APCC log file. This would help me separate causes of tracking problems.
Thanks in advance.
Mike Hayford







Re: AP1600 Lost

Bob Enouen
 

Thank you Ray.

Bob


Robert J. Enouen
Cell 513-504-4410

On Dec 14, 2021, at 8:28 AM, Ray Gralak <iogroups@...> wrote:

Hi Bob,

- Mount would not respond to the NSEW buttons or start tracking no matter what I tried. An error code thrown
was Fault Triggered: East Limit.
The mount is hitting an axis limit, which is separate from a Horizon or Meridian limit. The best solution is to go to the "Homing/Limits" tab in APCC and click the "Configure Home and Limits" button to have APCC reconfigure the mount's limits. You must reconfigure the limits after moving the mount manually with the clutches released.

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Enouen
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 2:29 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP1600 Lost


The issue is resolved thanks to your help! More details below:

- I physically moved it to Park 3, unparked from last position, and tried to use NINA to successfully plate
solve but it would not sync because the mount was not tracking.

- Mount would not respond to the NSEW buttons or start tracking no matter what I tried. An error code thrown
was Fault Triggered: East Limit. I checked the 3D view and could see that the mount was displaying almost
upside down despite my attempts to ReCal via the GoTo tab.

- I was finally able to resolve by going to the APPC - Meridian Tracking limits Explorer and after selecting the
‘West’ button clicked Go To Meridian. The mount then moved far enough away from the limit that I was able to
start tracking, but I had to use the Stop Slew button before it really turned upside down. I was then able to
plate solve and sync in NINA. I’ve not yet established Meridian Limits and simply tell the mount to flip at the
Meridian.

- I checked the logs and can see that the time was not an issue and it unparked from Last Position the night it
failed so I’m not sure how I got stuck here, but am happy Ito have discovered another solution if it happens
again.


Thanks again!
Bob


Robert J. Enouen
Cell 513-504-4410


On Dec 9, 2021, at 10:08 AM, Dale Ghent <daleg@...> wrote:




Ah yes, I forgot about "Prevent Errant RECALs" (I have that turned off in my setups because of all the
testing I do with NINA, so the last time that has gotten in the way of things has faded from my memory.)




On Dec 9, 2021, at 09:53, Ray Gralak <iogroups@...> wrote:





Hi Bob,





What Dale suggests will work unless the pointing error is more than 5 degrees and "Prevent
Errant Recals" is enabled in APCC's Advanced settings. If you disable "Prevent Errant RECALs", make sure to
re-enable it after syncing!





BTW, if you manually move the mount to the Park 3 position and unpark from Park 3, the mount
should be pointing within 5 degrees. Thus, when you do a RECAL to regain precise pointing you will not need
to disable "Prevent errant RECALs".





-Ray





-----Original Message-----


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Enouen


Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 5:46 AM


To: main@ap-gto.groups.io


Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP1600 Lost





Ahh! Thanks so much Dale! I’ll do that at the next clear sky night - which will be Sunday
night here in


Springboro, OH.





Bob








Robert J. Enouen


Cell 513-504-4410





On Dec 9, 2021, at 8:12 AM, Dale Ghent <daleg@...> wrote:











Use the N/S/E/W buttons, either in APCC or in NINA, to drive the mount and point
the telescope at a clear


patch of sky, then a manual plate solve+sync inside NINA from the Imaging -> Plate Solve
window. The mount


will then know how it's oriented. There's no need to undo clutches and manually sling the
OTA around to a


park position.





The main question is /how/ your mount got to disoriented. One of the ways this can
happen is if you have


the mount parked in a particular position and then command it to unpark, but from a
different position instead


of Last parked or from the actual park position it was parked at.








On Dec 9, 2021, at 08:05, Bob Enouen <renouen@...> wrote:





Hi Ray,





My observatory-based AP1600 CP4 lost its location last night after a few
days of no activity due to


clouds. It’s been tracking great using a 300+ point APPM model on 180 second unguided
exposures with a


RC 16” that has a 3250mm focal length. I’m forwarding the APPC Pro logs and the NINA
logs for the last two


days for reference.





My question: I assume that if I physically release the RA/Dec gear boxes and
move the mount to Park 3


and then Recal using Alt/Az in APPC Pro to that position this will get me close enough to
then Recal using


PlateSolving. I do not have a hand control. Is this correct?





Thanks, Bob








Robert J. Enouen


Cell 513-504-4410


20211205-024656-2.0.0.2006.912.log


20211208-172149-2.0.0.2006.6568.log


ApccZip-BOB_ENOUEN-2021-12-09-061744.zip





































































Re: Install APCC first or AP V2?

Ray Gralak
 

Here is the recommended order:

1. Update to .NET Framework 4.7.2 or later (if needed)
2. Install the ASCOM Platform 6.5 SP1
3. Install the AP V2 ASCOM Driver
4. Install APCC

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Phillips
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 5:27 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Install APCC first or AP V2?

George, what was the answer?
Larry

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