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Re: APPM different with V1.9.0.9?

Rouz
 

I just reinstalled the older V1.9.0.7 and it's back to normal and working again.

Also, with the new update (V1.9.0.9) there was a long 5 to 10 second pause after every slew   " Slew Warning".


Re: semi-OT: deterring critters in the obsy

Phillip Klein
 

Hi Joseph,

That was my thought and thank you for the reassurance.

Best,

Phil

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:13 PM Joseph Beyer <jcbeyer2001@...> wrote:
Phil, you're likely safe.  The lions would normally rather not be seen.    


Re: APPM different with V1.9.0.9?

Rouz
 
Edited

I have tried several times now with the same results:


Re: APPM different with V1.9.0.9?

Rouz
 

Here is how it was previously:


APPM different with V1.9.0.9?

Rouz
 

Hi Ray,

Just installed V1.9.0.9 and running APPM again.

The RA Delta figure getting larger and larger with every plateslove and then its fails.

Im using ASTAP and NINA which working perfectly last week. 

I tried "Use last pate solve's offset as hint" on and off.

I tried pointing model corrections on and off.

Attached are the new APPM results:


Re: semi-OT: deterring critters in the obsy

Joseph Beyer
 

Phil, you're likely safe.  The lions would normally rather not be seen.    


Re: semi-OT: deterring critters in the obsy

Joseph Beyer
 

"If it let out some big cat howls, it was looking for love, not a fight."

Ha! Who'd a thought a male animal looking for companionship would get loud and rowdy!  Likely just a night of misunderstandings.  From the sounds of it the adventure was a bit unnerving for the astronomers.  They first saw the cat when it was trotting up the road towards them and realizing what it was did their best wildlife-expert-recommended be as big as you can and make noise.  It stopped advancing but then continued to circle and howl for awhile while they watched and decided what to do.  Leaving seemed to be the best decision.

It may be the current drought or who knows what but there have been a lot of security cameras pictures of at least one lion around our neighborhood.  Probably the same one that ran in back of my car after it tried to grab one of the yearling fawns in a neighbor's yard.  A couple of neighbor's house cats haven't been as lucky to escape.

The coyotes, they're around too.  Some guy a couple blocks away caught a video of a pack chasing a raccoon down the street.   Glad I have an 8 foot fence around the yard!


Re: semi-OT: deterring critters in the obsy

Phillip Klein
 

Hi Joseph,

That is very interesting. I kind of hoped if the cat smelled me he would cut a wide path. Apparently, that is not the case. I will keep the bear spray handy.

Best,

Phil

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 4:37 PM Joseph Beyer <jcbeyer2001@...> wrote:
It's a spooky sound.  Sitting out next to the telescope and hearing a deer being killed in the neighbor's yard leaves a person feeling a bit exposed.  I still prefer the four legged neighbors rather than the two legged variety!  

There have been a number guys in the local astronomy club using the darker regional parks who have had experiences with the local mountain lions.  For whatever reason a lion approached the groups after dark and let out a few big cat howls.  The call of the wild was followed by a rapid packing of vehicles and calling it a night.


Re: semi-OT: deterring critters in the obsy

M Hambrick
 

Coyotes can be pretty unnerving to hear when there is a pack of them. There is a pack always roaming around in the fields behind my house looking for deer, goats, or young cows. The sound can best be described as being like the crowd at the local high school football game when their team scores a touchdown. I don't think they really pose any threat to humans, but I am still glad there is a fence between them and me. The local ranchers usually keep donkeys in amongst their cattle to keep the coyotes away.

Mike


Re: [ap-ug] IC1396 Garnet Star Nebula in Hubble Palette

Bill Long
 

That would look funny. Probably wouldn't end funny.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 5:54 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] [ap-ug] IC1396 Garnet Star Nebula in Hubble Palette
 
We are not changing the weight rating. This is a short fat scope and I don't want someone throwing a 9" refractor on this mount, thinking it will handle it.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris White <chris.white@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Sep 22, 2021 7:51 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] [ap-ug] IC1396 Garnet Star Nebula in Hubble Palette

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 08:57 PM, Bill Long wrote:
Yeah!!! Now that's a torture test! Really looking forward to hearing how that goes.
100%.  This will be an awesome test.  Might need to up the weight rating though if it is successful!  ;-)

I'll be watching this one. 

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: [ap-ug] IC1396 Garnet Star Nebula in Hubble Palette

Roland Christen
 

We are not changing the weight rating. This is a short fat scope and I don't want someone throwing a 9" refractor on this mount, thinking it will handle it.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris White <chris.white@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Sep 22, 2021 7:51 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] [ap-ug] IC1396 Garnet Star Nebula in Hubble Palette

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 08:57 PM, Bill Long wrote:
Yeah!!! Now that's a torture test! Really looking forward to hearing how that goes.
100%.  This will be an awesome test.  Might need to up the weight rating though if it is successful!  ;-)

I'll be watching this one. 

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: [ap-ug] IC1396 Garnet Star Nebula in Hubble Palette

Chris White
 

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 08:57 PM, Bill Long wrote:
Yeah!!! Now that's a torture test! Really looking forward to hearing how that goes.
100%.  This will be an awesome test.  Might need to up the weight rating though if it is successful!  ;-)

I'll be watching this one. 


Re: semi-OT: deterring critters in the obsy

Christopher Erickson
 

If it let out some big cat howls, it was looking for love, not a fight. And one or more people in the group must have had indoor cats and their clothes were saturated with cat musk.

Hunting cats make no noise whatsoever.

I thought you needed to know that. LOL!

-Christopher Erickson
Observatory Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, Hawaii


On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 1:43 PM Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have coyotes in the cornfields nearby that howl up a storm whenever a distant police car sounds his siren. They also howl at the Moon when it rises over the treetops.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Beyer <jcbeyer2001@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Sep 22, 2021 6:36 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] semi-OT: deterring critters in the obsy

It's a spooky sound.  Sitting out next to the telescope and hearing a deer being killed in the neighbor's yard leaves a person feeling a bit exposed.  I still prefer the four legged neighbors rather than the two legged variety!  

There have been a number guys in the local astronomy club using the darker regional parks who have had experiences with the local mountain lions.  For whatever reason a lion approached the groups after dark and let out a few big cat howls.  The call of the wild was followed by a rapid packing of vehicles and calling it a night.

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: semi-OT: deterring critters in the obsy

Roland Christen
 

I have coyotes in the cornfields nearby that howl up a storm whenever a distant police car sounds his siren. They also howl at the Moon when it rises over the treetops.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Beyer <jcbeyer2001@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Sep 22, 2021 6:36 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] semi-OT: deterring critters in the obsy

It's a spooky sound.  Sitting out next to the telescope and hearing a deer being killed in the neighbor's yard leaves a person feeling a bit exposed.  I still prefer the four legged neighbors rather than the two legged variety!  

There have been a number guys in the local astronomy club using the darker regional parks who have had experiences with the local mountain lions.  For whatever reason a lion approached the groups after dark and let out a few big cat howls.  The call of the wild was followed by a rapid packing of vehicles and calling it a night.

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: semi-OT: deterring critters in the obsy

Joseph Beyer
 

It's a spooky sound.  Sitting out next to the telescope and hearing a deer being killed in the neighbor's yard leaves a person feeling a bit exposed.  I still prefer the four legged neighbors rather than the two legged variety!  

There have been a number guys in the local astronomy club using the darker regional parks who have had experiences with the local mountain lions.  For whatever reason a lion approached the groups after dark and let out a few big cat howls.  The call of the wild was followed by a rapid packing of vehicles and calling it a night.


Re: semi-OT: deterring critters in the obsy

Phillip Klein
 

Hi Joseph,

A couple of years ago a mountain lion killed a deer in front of our home in north San Diego County, Solana Beach. I heard a strange noise about 5:00 am. Someone or something was in distress but I had never heard that sound before so went back to bed. Next morning I saw the aftermath and understood it was the deer I heard. The end of our cul de sac borders a lagoon preserve which supports a small herd of deer and an occasional mountain lion. The animal control officer that picked up the deer said, "Yes, that was a big kitty cat."
 

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 11:30 AM Joseph Beyer <jcbeyer2001@...> wrote:
Really nice!  I live in a suburban neighborhood not far from open space on the San Francisco peninsula and we've got a variety of critters around including lots of deer.  The other night I was pulling the car into the garage and close by heard one of the neighborhood deer getting attacked by "something".  Looked in the rearview mirror and saw a young mountain lion run right in back of the car and off down the street.  When I'm out imaging at night the 8 foot fence around the yard is constantly vibrating due to animals jumping on and off in other yards.  So far worst I've had is families of raccoons and opossums come down the fence line in back of me.  I'm just waiting for the night when it's a bobcat or bigger.   


Re: Vintage 800 Mount Serial Number

Karen Christen
 

Hi Mike,

 

Well that’s a good question!  I checked with our master mount maker Dave and he had to look at the one 800 mount we have here.  Like you, he could not find a serial number.  I checked with our most senior employee Christine and she also can find no record or hint of the 800 mounts ever having serial numbers.  You’re welcome to give yours a name instead.  😜

Karen

AP

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of M Hambrick
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:36 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Vintage 800 Mount Serial Number

 

Do the old 800 mounts have serial numbers ? If so where do I find it ? I have an old 800 mount that I bought in 1992 that I am thinking about selling to help pay for absolute encoders when they become available. If I sell the mount, it would be nice if I can give the buyer the serial number.

Mike


--
Karen Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: APCC with SGP Pier Flip Failure #APCC

Andrew J
 

Hi Ray.

Thanks for the feedback. Good info on SGPro v4 allowing negative values. Also, your point about allow CW UP Slews is a good one. I think Luca made the same suggestion above. I am always reluctant to give external programs the ability to do CW Up Slews for fear of Pier Crashes. However, I guess as long as I keep the Homing Limits in place I should be OK.

Slightly off topic, but I do wish the Homing Limits were more like the meridian limits where you could specify different values for different DEC values. I use the Homing Limits as a "no fly zone", that no matter where a slew or tracking command comes from the mount will never get into a situation where a Pier Crash is emminant. Meridian Limits are great, except for the "Not Slew Limits" warning. I wish they they were slew limits as well. We could setup the limits one time when mounting a new scope and imaging train and the sleep well knowing there is no possible way for an errant slew or user error to cause the mount to slew or track into the Pier. For those of us who operate our rigs remotely, this would be a very nice feature....

Andrew J


Re: semi-OT: deterring critters in the obsy

Joseph Beyer
 

Really nice!  I live in a suburban neighborhood not far from open space on the San Francisco peninsula and we've got a variety of critters around including lots of deer.  The other night I was pulling the car into the garage and close by heard one of the neighborhood deer getting attacked by "something".  Looked in the rearview mirror and saw a young mountain lion run right in back of the car and off down the street.  When I'm out imaging at night the 8 foot fence around the yard is constantly vibrating due to animals jumping on and off in other yards.  So far worst I've had is families of raccoons and opossums come down the fence line in back of me.  I'm just waiting for the night when it's a bobcat or bigger.   


Re: semi-OT: deterring critters in the obsy

thefamily90 Phillips
 

Wow! Very nice!!


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Phillip Klein <klein.phillip@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:45:50 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] semi-OT: deterring critters in the obsy
 
Hello,

Seeing the emails about critters prompted me to send the photo of the critter that strolled by last night . The image was captured on my game camera. The mountain lion is approximately 100 feet from the concrete pier of my telescope which was not in use at the time. Perhaps I need to keep a can of bear spray next to me but on the other hand if I was present the lion would likely never have walked by
My site is located on the central coast of California on the east side of the Santa Lucia Mountains.

Wishing you clear skies!

Phil

On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 2:19 PM Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:
For the wasps you can use decoy nests. It does not kill them, but you can basically decide where they will go. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Joel Short <buckeyestargazer@...>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 1:51 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] semi-OT: deterring critters in the obsy
 
I do two things.  
1.  Twice per year (early Spring and early Fall) I spray an insecticide called Tempo SC Ultra on the outside walls and perimeter of my roll off roof obs.  This stuff works great, for other areas of the house too.
2.  I put a little bit of peppermint extract in a small spray bottle and once a month I spray the inside of the obs, especially around any cracks.

I haven't seen a spider in years in my obs; wasps are a completely different story.  Nothing deters those buggers.

joel

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