Date   

Re: Adding Primaluce Labs ECCO2 for Environmental sensor?

Wayne Hixson
 

Fillipo at Primaluce says the ASCOM driver is an Observing Conditions driver. I ordered one, I’ll post when I get it

Wayne


On Mar 29, 2021, at 2:38 PM, annaski <annaski@...> wrote:

If anyone has this working reliably with APPM please post, as I am also looking at this.


Re: Data base corruption

George
 

Jack

 

It is a function of age primarily.   Environment can affect it somewhat.

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jack Huerkamp
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 12:02 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Cc: mallincamusa@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

George,

 

Is battery life a function of just age (how old the battery is) or does using the keypad more to locate DSOs shorten the life span?  I rarely use the keypad to locate targets, using my planetarium program instead.

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 12:03 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Jack,

 

It never hurts to replace it every 4-5 years before the database dies.

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jack Huerkamp
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 11:57 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

George,

 

This is good to know.  My replacement battery arrives by the end of the week and I will be swapping it out next weekend.

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 9:25 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Jeff,

 

You should be good for 20 to 30 seconds…no rush, but I wouldn’t go get a cup of coffee while changing the battery.   <G>

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffc
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 12:50 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Cc: mallincamusa@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

I just replaced a keypad battery (and a cord) (and I have another keypad which will also get a new battery as soon as I get some time). 

  

It seemed the DB did not get lost when I swapped the battery... tho i might not have checked the Messier objects.   

How long will the keypad memory persist without a battery?

 

-jeff

 

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 8:03 PM Jack Huerkamp <Mallincamusa@...> wrote:

Jeff,

 

George at AP told me if I place the new battery next to the original one and quickly swap them out, the databases will not be lost.  I do not know how quick I need to be.  I guess I will find out as the battery in the keypad has not died, but I want to change it before it does.  BTW the battery for my keypad was $25 plus shipping.

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff B
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 9:59 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Just had this happen to me as well.  

 

The custom battery is a bit expensive but once in every 10 to 12 years ain't too bad.  Removal and installation of the battery requires care but is straightforward as it reloading the database, though it can take a while.

 

I also went to the .19 firmware version.  Jury is still out on that one.

 

Jeff

 

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 9:41 PM Jack Huerkamp <Mallincamusa@...> wrote:

It is possible that the keypad battery has died.  I understand when it does, the stars and planet databases still work, but catalogs like the Messier and NGC objects get corrupted.  I just ordered a battery for my keypad before it dies.  Once it does, then you have to replace the battery and then reload the DSO databases.

 

Yours truly,

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of paulsimonjones
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:56 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Starting to reuse my Mach 1 mount after a few years and have found that although the stars and sol data base is ok. The messer database is corrupted - with things like Crab Nebula is in Ursa minor. Any one seen this behavior?

 

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Re: Adding Primaluce Labs ECCO2 for Environmental sensor?

annaski
 

If anyone has this working reliably with APPM please post, as I am also looking at this.


Re: AP V2 Ascom driver slew speeds wrong #ASCOM_V2_Driver

David Arditti
 

Thanks for the other suggestions. I am still at a bit of a loss. Experiments using different USB serial convertors, and different cables, have not turned up any clear cause of the odd behaviour.

I am definitely finding the older driver 5.21.01 to be working better than the newer one, 5.30.10, as Ray said it might, but it is not consistent. Because the odd behaviours with driver 5.21.01 are only occasional, I've been noting them down when they happen, otherwise it would be easy to for me to think I am imagining them.

What I have noted is that using the older driver, setting the move rate to 12x sometimes results in a first button press giving a 1x slew, but then it is 12x on subsequent presses (this is not backlash). When set to 1x or 0.5x sometimes the motion is continuous after the button is released, and I have also seen continuous motion at 1x after the button is briefly pressed at 12x setting. This is not a mouse problem, as I have tried two mice.

I now feel I cannot be sure that I would not see similar behaviours with the hand control, as I haven't been using the hand control enough at slow slew rates to be sure. So I am not certain this is not an issue with something in the CP3 box. My latest observations are using the new V2 firmware that was certainly sent to me through air freight, just in an anti-static bag, so X-ray scanning damage as Joe suggests is possible. But then I first started to observe problems with the M firmware, that had previously had no problems, so that theory doesn't fully fit the facts either!


AP Product Catalog Database

Karen Christen
 

Hello Astro-Nuts,

 

In recent weeks a few forum members have mentioned it would be nice to have a repository of old AP catalogs and offered to create a website database.  This is a project we’ve had on our radar but have not had time to dig into, so we appreciate this has been taken on by some of our Astro-Nuts. 

 

The website is here if you’d like to take a look:  AP Product Catalog Database   While you’re there, check out Tony Simon’s (aka Harley Davidson and Star Astronomer on YouTube) video of his catalog collection. 

 

If you have old catalogs and would like to add them, you can upload them to the Files section of the ap-ug group or the ap-gto group on Groups.io.  They will be added to the database from there.

 

I’ll pin this topic on the Groups Messages page so it’s easy to find.  Many thanks to Holger Merlitz for creating the website and volunteering to steer this project, and all of you who have submitted your catalogs to the database.

 

And a challenge:  Can anyone find a catalog with the Hampden Ct address?

Karen

AP


--
Karen Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: APCC

Worsel
 

Vince

It is at https://www.astro-physics.info/index.htm?tech_support/software/apcc/apcc-download

You can navigate there from the main A-P hom epage by clicking Software Updates.

P.S. I agree with Mike's recommendation.  The ability to build GoTo and Pointing models in APPC-Pro / APPM alone is worth the price differential.
I also have the 1100 and started with APPC-Standard, but upgraded.

Bryan


Re: Data base corruption

Jack Huerkamp
 

George,

 

Is battery life a function of just age (how old the battery is) or does using the keypad more to locate DSOs shorten the life span?  I rarely use the keypad to locate targets, using my planetarium program instead.

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 12:03 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Jack,

 

It never hurts to replace it every 4-5 years before the database dies.

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jack Huerkamp
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 11:57 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

George,

 

This is good to know.  My replacement battery arrives by the end of the week and I will be swapping it out next weekend.

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 9:25 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Jeff,

 

You should be good for 20 to 30 seconds…no rush, but I wouldn’t go get a cup of coffee while changing the battery.   <G>

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffc
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 12:50 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Cc: mallincamusa@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

I just replaced a keypad battery (and a cord) (and I have another keypad which will also get a new battery as soon as I get some time). 

  

It seemed the DB did not get lost when I swapped the battery... tho i might not have checked the Messier objects.   

How long will the keypad memory persist without a battery?

 

-jeff

 

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 8:03 PM Jack Huerkamp <Mallincamusa@...> wrote:

Jeff,

 

George at AP told me if I place the new battery next to the original one and quickly swap them out, the databases will not be lost.  I do not know how quick I need to be.  I guess I will find out as the battery in the keypad has not died, but I want to change it before it does.  BTW the battery for my keypad was $25 plus shipping.

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff B
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 9:59 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Just had this happen to me as well.  

 

The custom battery is a bit expensive but once in every 10 to 12 years ain't too bad.  Removal and installation of the battery requires care but is straightforward as it reloading the database, though it can take a while.

 

I also went to the .19 firmware version.  Jury is still out on that one.

 

Jeff

 

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 9:41 PM Jack Huerkamp <Mallincamusa@...> wrote:

It is possible that the keypad battery has died.  I understand when it does, the stars and planet databases still work, but catalogs like the Messier and NGC objects get corrupted.  I just ordered a battery for my keypad before it dies.  Once it does, then you have to replace the battery and then reload the DSO databases.

 

Yours truly,

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of paulsimonjones
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:56 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Starting to reuse my Mach 1 mount after a few years and have found that although the stars and sol data base is ok. The messer database is corrupted - with things like Crab Nebula is in Ursa minor. Any one seen this behavior?

 

Image removed by sender.

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Data base corruption

George
 

Jack,

 

It never hurts to replace it every 4-5 years before the database dies.

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jack Huerkamp
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 11:57 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

George,

 

This is good to know.  My replacement battery arrives by the end of the week and I will be swapping it out next weekend.

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 9:25 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Jeff,

 

You should be good for 20 to 30 seconds…no rush, but I wouldn’t go get a cup of coffee while changing the battery.   <G>

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffc
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 12:50 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Cc: mallincamusa@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

I just replaced a keypad battery (and a cord) (and I have another keypad which will also get a new battery as soon as I get some time). 

  

It seemed the DB did not get lost when I swapped the battery... tho i might not have checked the Messier objects.   

How long will the keypad memory persist without a battery?

 

-jeff

 

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 8:03 PM Jack Huerkamp <Mallincamusa@...> wrote:

Jeff,

 

George at AP told me if I place the new battery next to the original one and quickly swap them out, the databases will not be lost.  I do not know how quick I need to be.  I guess I will find out as the battery in the keypad has not died, but I want to change it before it does.  BTW the battery for my keypad was $25 plus shipping.

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff B
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 9:59 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Just had this happen to me as well.  

 

The custom battery is a bit expensive but once in every 10 to 12 years ain't too bad.  Removal and installation of the battery requires care but is straightforward as it reloading the database, though it can take a while.

 

I also went to the .19 firmware version.  Jury is still out on that one.

 

Jeff

 

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 9:41 PM Jack Huerkamp <Mallincamusa@...> wrote:

It is possible that the keypad battery has died.  I understand when it does, the stars and planet databases still work, but catalogs like the Messier and NGC objects get corrupted.  I just ordered a battery for my keypad before it dies.  Once it does, then you have to replace the battery and then reload the DSO databases.

 

Yours truly,

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of paulsimonjones
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:56 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Starting to reuse my Mach 1 mount after a few years and have found that although the stars and sol data base is ok. The messer database is corrupted - with things like Crab Nebula is in Ursa minor. Any one seen this behavior?

 

Image removed by sender.

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Data base corruption

Jack Huerkamp
 

George,

 

This is good to know.  My replacement battery arrives by the end of the week and I will be swapping it out next weekend.

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 9:25 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Jeff,

 

You should be good for 20 to 30 seconds…no rush, but I wouldn’t go get a cup of coffee while changing the battery.   <G>

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffc
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 12:50 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Cc: mallincamusa@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

I just replaced a keypad battery (and a cord) (and I have another keypad which will also get a new battery as soon as I get some time). 

  

It seemed the DB did not get lost when I swapped the battery... tho i might not have checked the Messier objects.   

How long will the keypad memory persist without a battery?

 

-jeff

 

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 8:03 PM Jack Huerkamp <Mallincamusa@...> wrote:

Jeff,

 

George at AP told me if I place the new battery next to the original one and quickly swap them out, the databases will not be lost.  I do not know how quick I need to be.  I guess I will find out as the battery in the keypad has not died, but I want to change it before it does.  BTW the battery for my keypad was $25 plus shipping.

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff B
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 9:59 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Just had this happen to me as well.  

 

The custom battery is a bit expensive but once in every 10 to 12 years ain't too bad.  Removal and installation of the battery requires care but is straightforward as it reloading the database, though it can take a while.

 

I also went to the .19 firmware version.  Jury is still out on that one.

 

Jeff

 

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 9:41 PM Jack Huerkamp <Mallincamusa@...> wrote:

It is possible that the keypad battery has died.  I understand when it does, the stars and planet databases still work, but catalogs like the Messier and NGC objects get corrupted.  I just ordered a battery for my keypad before it dies.  Once it does, then you have to replace the battery and then reload the DSO databases.

 

Yours truly,

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of paulsimonjones
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:56 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Starting to reuse my Mach 1 mount after a few years and have found that although the stars and sol data base is ok. The messer database is corrupted - with things like Crab Nebula is in Ursa minor. Any one seen this behavior?

 

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Re: [ap-ug] Catalogs

Jeff B
 

Boy, real catalogs in the mail, with no software to help prepare them.  Making even simple catalogs was an art form.

I had two of the 4" F6's.  One of my many AP APO related regrets was not keeping one.  When I coupled it with the early AP reducer/flattener (which I still have) it made a dynamite super sharp, super bright F4 telephoto.  In fact, my Olympus OM-1's meter had it at around F3.4-ish.  

Jeff

On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 12:14 PM thefamily90 Phillips <thefamily90@...> wrote:
Sorry for the typos!

Not David, Dated
4” F/6
The remaining catalogs 


From: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io> on behalf of thefamily90 Phillips <thefamily90@...>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 12:08:16 PM
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-ug] Catalogs
 
Hello all,

Just found my old catalogs. The first one is not David but the address is 839 Brae Burn Lane. You can purchase a 4 inch F62 assembly for $795 if you want the 4 inch F6 with a model 504 German equatorial mount, hex rings and stainless counterweights it will cost $1395!
A complete 6 inch F8 Triplet apochromatic system including the 6 inch refractor, equatorial mount, oak tripod, 8 x 50 finder, star diagonal and three ocular’s is $2595. 
The next catalog I have is dated March 1988 then July 1989 and June 1991. They remaining catalogs are not dated.

I will be sending these to Tony to scan tomorrow.

Best,

Jim P


--
Jim Phillips


Re: Data base corruption

George
 

Time for a battery replacement and a database reload.    The sole function of the keypad battery is to maintain the database.   Call or email me if you have questions.   Enjoy!

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of paulsimonjones
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:56 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Starting to reuse my Mach 1 mount after a few years and have found that although the stars and sol data base is ok. The messer database is corrupted - with things like Crab Nebula is in Ursa minor. Any one seen this behavior?


Re: Quick Easy Question About Manual Meridian Flip In APCC Pro #APCC

John
 

Aloha Bill,

  Thank you!  I see it now (pier flip button)...  Previously, I was just looking at the upper half of the apcc screens (mostly in the Meridian Tab).

    John


Re: [ap-ug] Catalogs

thefamily90 Phillips
 

Sorry for the typos!

Not David, Dated
4” F/6
The remaining catalogs 


From: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io> on behalf of thefamily90 Phillips <thefamily90@...>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 12:08:16 PM
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-ug] Catalogs
 
Hello all,

Just found my old catalogs. The first one is not David but the address is 839 Brae Burn Lane. You can purchase a 4 inch F62 assembly for $795 if you want the 4 inch F6 with a model 504 German equatorial mount, hex rings and stainless counterweights it will cost $1395!
A complete 6 inch F8 Triplet apochromatic system including the 6 inch refractor, equatorial mount, oak tripod, 8 x 50 finder, star diagonal and three ocular’s is $2595. 
The next catalog I have is dated March 1988 then July 1989 and June 1991. They remaining catalogs are not dated.

I will be sending these to Tony to scan tomorrow.

Best,

Jim P


--
Jim Phillips


Catalogs

thefamily90 Phillips
 

Hello all,

Just found my old catalogs. The first one is not David but the address is 839 Brae Burn Lane. You can purchase a 4 inch F62 assembly for $795 if you want the 4 inch F6 with a model 504 German equatorial mount, hex rings and stainless counterweights it will cost $1395!
A complete 6 inch F8 Triplet apochromatic system including the 6 inch refractor, equatorial mount, oak tripod, 8 x 50 finder, star diagonal and three ocular’s is $2595. 
The next catalog I have is dated March 1988 then July 1989 and June 1991. They remaining catalogs are not dated.

I will be sending these to Tony to scan tomorrow.

Best,

Jim P


Re: Mach2 - Pollux not in correct position

 

Mike, you can look at the coordinates the keypad has for Pollux by pressing the > button after selecting Pollux. Check to see if they match coordinates taken from an online catalog,

 

RA 07h 45m 18.94987s

DEC +28° 01′ 34.3160″

 

If the coordinates don’t match, then the keypad database is corrupted and needs to be reloaded. Entropy can’t be totally defeated, so even if a battery is in good condition it is possible for a database bit to be flipped. If the coordinates DO match, there is something funny afoot.

 

Liam

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christopher Erickson
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 8:56 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 - Pollux not in correct position

 

Let me rephrase that.

 

Is anything else connected to the mount besides the AP hand controller?


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

 

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 3:54 PM Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...> wrote:

The mount is never lost. What are you using to command the mount? That is where the problem is.


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

 

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 3:41 PM Mike Pigney via groups.io <mpigney=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I'm using my Mach2 with the AP keypad. It works perfectly in every way and goto's are spot on. 

When I command it to go to the star Pollux, it slews to a position approximately 90 degrees to the East of where it should be.

All other objects are spot on so far.

Has anybody else encountered this with the Mach2?

Mike 


Re: Data base corruption

George
 

Jeff,

 

You should be good for 20 to 30 seconds…no rush, but I wouldn’t go get a cup of coffee while changing the battery.   <G>

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffc
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 12:50 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Cc: mallincamusa@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

I just replaced a keypad battery (and a cord) (and I have another keypad which will also get a new battery as soon as I get some time). 

  

It seemed the DB did not get lost when I swapped the battery... tho i might not have checked the Messier objects.   

How long will the keypad memory persist without a battery?

 

-jeff

 

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 8:03 PM Jack Huerkamp <Mallincamusa@...> wrote:

Jeff,

 

George at AP told me if I place the new battery next to the original one and quickly swap them out, the databases will not be lost.  I do not know how quick I need to be.  I guess I will find out as the battery in the keypad has not died, but I want to change it before it does.  BTW the battery for my keypad was $25 plus shipping.

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff B
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 9:59 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Just had this happen to me as well.  

 

The custom battery is a bit expensive but once in every 10 to 12 years ain't too bad.  Removal and installation of the battery requires care but is straightforward as it reloading the database, though it can take a while.

 

I also went to the .19 firmware version.  Jury is still out on that one.

 

Jeff

 

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 9:41 PM Jack Huerkamp <Mallincamusa@...> wrote:

It is possible that the keypad battery has died.  I understand when it does, the stars and planet databases still work, but catalogs like the Messier and NGC objects get corrupted.  I just ordered a battery for my keypad before it dies.  Once it does, then you have to replace the battery and then reload the DSO databases.

 

Yours truly,

 

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of paulsimonjones
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:56 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Data base corruption

 

Starting to reuse my Mach 1 mount after a few years and have found that although the stars and sol data base is ok. The messer database is corrupted - with things like Crab Nebula is in Ursa minor. Any one seen this behavior?

 

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Re: APCC

M Hambrick
 

Hi Vince

I can't help you on the download, but George or Ray should be able to do so. As for which version to get, my two cents opinion - Get the APCC-Pro version. You may not use all of the functionality at first, but sooner or later you will be glad to have it, and it does not cost that much more.

Mike


APCC

vsalfranc@...
 

I am thinking of investing in APCC and I wondered which one to go for. My mount is an AP1100 Gto.
I have tried to download a copy for testing but for some reason I cannot download it. Your guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks
Vince


Re: APCC PRO - New to APPM and Pointing Model

Jack Huerkamp
 

Roberto,

There is a lot of good info in the APCC PRO manual.  Although I have been using APPC Standard for years, on Saturday, I printed out the PRO manual and started going through the entire book.  I got about 60% through it on Sunday during the clouds and rain.  Today I will take over where I left off and try to be ready for the next clearing to try what I learned. 

I am not an astrophotographer; instead I am into what is called EAA or Electronically Assisted Astronomy.  I prefer the term I coined years ago – CAO – camera assisted observing.  I use MallinCams to assist me in my live observing and allow me to see more and in color than I could with my aging eyes.  So instead of those gorgeous, wide field astrophotographs I have seen posted by members, I am more into looking for detail in those faint fuzzies.  So I will be using my VRC-16 at f/6 or f/8 to observe and share with others the live views on my computer screen.

As far as plate solving, I have been using All Sky Plate Solver.  It requires me to capture a JPG or FITS image and feed it into the program to calculate where the scope is pointed.  It is not automatic like other programs out there.  I have been working with Richard Wright of Software Bisque to incorporate the MallinCam SkyRaider cameras into The Sky X camera plugin, and he has successfully done so for most of them.  Since TSX does allow for plate solving, I will start using it with APCC PRO to do so.

As far as which camera will I be using, that will very with the target selected.  I have an array of cameras ranging from 17.6mm through 43.3mm diagonal sensor size and 1.7MP through 26MP.  I can calculate the pixel scale, image area and rotation angle for each for use in APPM.  With the smaller size and resolution camera, binning will not be needed.  With the larger sensor camera, I will use one of the digital binning options available to reduce the time needed to plate solve.

And after yesterday’s analysis of the first 60% of the manual, I now know how to set the meridian and horizon limits.  That will be the first things.

Thanks for your assistance.

Yours truly,

Jack

 

Jack Huerkamp

Jack's Astro Accessories, LLC

38388 Pine Street

Pearl River, LA 70452-5192

985-445-5063

mallincamusa@...

www.mallincamusa.com

30.37N  89.76W

 

All of us get lost in the darkness.
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars.

………………………………….Neil Peart

 

 

 

  Jack

I, like you, was a user of APCC Standard for years. Learning to use the Pro version and APPM was no problem at all. 

You definitely want to use the same imaging equipment you will be using on a regular basis on the mount as you are modelling the characteristics not only of the mount, such as pointing, but more importantly of how your optics and sensors change across the sky as the scope/mount combination moves. 


What program do you use for plate solving your CCD images?  You will need a program that supports this feature and can interact with APPM or otherwise have a native astrometric solver such as Pinpoint installed (this is my option). There’s a tab in APPM where you set these parameters up.

What camera do you have mounted on your 16” RC? Do you know the pixel scale, rough image area and rotation angle? You will need to enter these in the relevant tab for APPM.  If your fov is narrow, you may want to use a star catalog with sufficient stars for your plate solves to be accurate enough so that your model is as exact as possible. Also if your sensor is large, you want to bin it at 2x2 at least and perhaps just use 1/2 or 1/4 of its area for the actual images and plate solves so that the whole modelling process doesn’t take too long. APPM will
allow you to test your plate solving settings with a sample image before you start modelling. 

Try first a small model (20 points or so) just to see everything works. And the acquiring and solving of
your images goes smoothly. 

Also, as a user of APCC, do you have your meridian AND horizon limits set and enabled? You want to make use of these to do the modelling taking advantage of CW up positions etc. APPM allows for these to be enabled (including safe slews). 


Read the APPM quick start guide though. It’s a subsection of the APCC application and not too long. 

In my case, with a permanent setup, I ended doing a 130 point model and was immediately able to image unguided at 1300mm (peanuts for your RC!) getting nice round stars. Both for an 1100 and 1600GTO. 

Good luck!

Roberto


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Re: Mach2 - Elongated stars

Michael 'Mikey' Mangieri
 

I would fix the collimation issue.  I had a similar issue with elongated stars on my Edge11 and once I got the collimation fully corrected the elongation problem went away.

 

Mikey

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of yanzhe liu
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:23 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 - Elongated stars

 

Bill,

 

I did not get a chance to take all the pictures you requested.

This was the one I took a while back. 

You can tell that there is some collimation issue. I am not particularly concerned about it now - I know for larger sensor I need to shim it. My concern is that stars seem top-down elongated throughout the image, I think it might be due to fan vibration of STX16803 which I am currently digging into.

 

Yanzhe

 

On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 9:17 PM Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:

That doesnt change what I asked about before. :P 

 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of yanzhe liu <liuyanzhe@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 8:59 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 - Elongated stars

 

Yes, I use Nitecrawler.

 

Yanzhe

 

On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 1:21 AM Andrea Lucchetti <andlucchett@...> wrote:

I see there is a 16803on fsq.

Have you changed the focused?

I asked because I tried in the past and the original focuser flexed a lot under that load. At that time I had to give back the fsq. I have later learned that I needed a flu atlas to manage a 16803 even on a Tec with 3.5 inch quality focuser. 

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