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Re: Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

Tom Blahovici
 

The first 4 are not the case. DHCP did assign an IP address. The Fifth, broadcasts, might be the case. It's a new router but I would think it would enable broadcasts by default.
Tom
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 12:51 PM, Ray Gralak wrote:
Hi Tom,

APCC broadcasts a message to your entire LAN so some reasons why the CP4 would not have responded are:

1. The CP4 wasn't powered on.
2. The CP4 or computer were not connected to the same LAN subnet.
3. The CP4 was configured incorrectly for the LAN (e.g. a static IP inconsistent with the router's subnet).
4. The router hadn't provided an IP address to the CP4 via DHCP.
5. The router blocked the broadcasts.

In cases where you can't figure out the problem, it might be worthwhile to have an alternate way to connect (i.e., serial or USB cable).

-Ray Gralak
Author of PEMPro
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Blahovici
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 12:18 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

Hi
Ray,
Yes I found that option except it did not work at all. No mounts show up.
In fact my router does not even show that the CP4 is on line or off line. It does however assign an IP address.
The router is as state of the art as can be, a WiFi 6 router. I am using a cabled connection from the CP4, not
WiFi.
There is one other device on my Net that does not show up. An aquarium controller.

 On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 12:51 PM, Ray Gralak wrote:
Hi Tom,

APCC broadcasts a message to your entire LAN so some reasons why the CP4 would not have responded are:

1. The CP4 wasn't powered on.
2. The CP4 or computer were not connected to the same LAN subnet.
3. The CP4 was configured incorrectly for the LAN (e.g. a static IP inconsistent with the router's subnet).
4. The router hadn't provided an IP address to the CP4 via DHCP.
5. The router blocked the broadcasts.

In cases where you can't figure out the problem, it might be worthwhile to have an alternate way to connect (i.e., serial or USB cable).

-Ray Gralak
Author of PEMPro
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Blahovici
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 12:18 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

Hi
Ray,
Yes I found that option except it did not work at all. No mounts show up.
In fact my router does not even show that the CP4 is on line or off line. It does however assign an IP address.
The router is as state of the art as can be, a WiFi 6 router. I am using a cabled connection from the CP4, not
WiFi.
There is one other device on my Net that does not show up. An aquarium controller.

 The first 4 are not the case. The fifth though might be. I'll need to investigate.


Dec limit in Mach2

Luca Marinelli
 

I have been battling an issue with the Mach2 that is difficult for me to pinpoint. I am using the Mach2 with APCC Pro, I finish an imaging session by parking the mount to Park 3. When I start APCC at the beginning of an imaging session, i initialize the mount by unparking from latest park position. The coordinates reported by CP5 are correct. When I launch the imaging run and start by slewing and centering on the target via plate solving, often the mount will hang mid-slew. AP ASCOM and APCC will report that the mount is slewing but the motors are not running. There is usually an error message of motor stall and also a notice of Dec limit reached. I have not set up Dec limits, the mount is not hitting against the mechanical Dec limit.

Last night to avoid this problem I started the session by issuing a Find Home command immediately after unparking from Park 3. The slew and center to the target went well and the imaging run started without errors. This morning when I went to shut down I found that the mount was parked in place close to Park 3 but not exactly. There was a fault triggered northern limit reached error message. I unparked, issued a Find Home command, parked at park 3 and all was well.

I am not sure if it is an issue with the CP5 or APCC Pro. It appears that the mount somehow gets lost easily and it requires frequent Find Home commands, even without having issues incorrect recals. I wonder if there are still leftover settings from when I used this computer and APCC Pro with the Mach1 that was recently replaced by the Mach2 that are causing these issues.

I am attaching a couple of screenshots demonstrating the messages and problem and a link to log files from the last few sessions. 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/52ijjx876pjxwh8/ApccZip-Luca_Marinelli-2021-01-30-155940.zip?dl=0

Thank you,

Luca




Re: Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Tom,

APCC broadcasts a message to your entire LAN so some reasons why the CP4 would not have responded are:

1. The CP4 wasn't powered on.
2. The CP4 or computer were not connected to the same LAN subnet.
3. The CP4 was configured incorrectly for the LAN (e.g. a static IP inconsistent with the router's subnet).
4. The router hadn't provided an IP address to the CP4 via DHCP.
5. The router blocked the broadcasts.

In cases where you can't figure out the problem, it might be worthwhile to have an alternate way to connect (i.e., serial or USB cable).

-Ray Gralak
Author of PEMPro
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Blahovici
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 12:18 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

Hi
Ray,
Yes I found that option except it did not work at all. No mounts show up.
In fact my router does not even show that the CP4 is on line or off line. It does however assign an IP address.
The router is as state of the art as can be, a WiFi 6 router. I am using a cabled connection from the CP4, not
WiFi.
There is one other device on my Net that does not show up. An aquarium controller.


Re: Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

Tom Blahovici
 

Marj,
You need a user ID and password to download the mount finder.  Really not needed.  
Tom


Re: Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

Tom Blahovici
 

Hi
Ray,
Yes I found that option except it did not work at all.  No mounts show up.
In fact my router does not even show that the CP4 is on line or off line.  It does however assign an IP address. The router is as state of the art as can be, a WiFi 6 router. I am using a cabled connection from the CP4, not WiFi.
There is one  other device on my Net that does not show up. An aquarium controller.


Re: Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

 

Tom,

 

There are several tools that can be accessed from our website. Click on the Support tab and then Technical Support for Current Products.

https://www.astro-physics.com/support/

 

Scroll down to GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 Control Boxes and take your pick of several options.

 

As Ray mentioned, APCC can also provide the information that you need.

 

Our tech team is revising the recommendations for accessing your CP4 or CP5. Since IP addresses can change, it might be better to set up your own user name and password.

 

We recommend that you write all of your serial numbers in your manual for future reference as well as other useful information.

 

 

Clear Skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics

11250 Forest Hills Road

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Blahovici
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 11:22 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

 

Hi

Yes I know. However, you require a user name and password to get access to it.
Hence I was wondering if I needed to wait until Monday to get it.
Not very user friendly. If a person is at a remote site they could have wasted time going there. I can understand that perhaps there is some considerations about intellectual property, but in this case, an IP scanner tool does the same thing.  Not to mention that if it is at a remote site, you don't necessarily have access to the serial number.
IMO, It should just install with APPC.
Best regards, Tom


Re: Daylight saving time/Inaccurate GOTO's

Eduardo Oliveira
 

Hi Ray,

Thanks for your reply. I will check if there is something wrong with
the way Windows is handling this...

Regards,

Eduardo

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 2:01 AM Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com> wrote:

Hi Eduardo,

position). I am running APCC Standard version 1.8.8.14. When I look at
the option "Manage Sites" I get a Time offset of -2.0, when the
correct would be -3.0. The time zone is correctly configured
(Brasilia, UTC -3), however we are not under daylight saving time this
year in Brazil (exceptionally) and I think this is causing some issue
with the way the mount is behaving. I can see that APCC is applying
APCC reads the Time Zone entries from Windows, so you may need to check for and apply any available Windows updates.

-Ray Gralak
Author of PEMPro
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eduardo Oliveira
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 3:32 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Daylight saving time/Inaccurate GOTO's

Hi everyone,

I am having an issue with my Mach1GTO mount that I suspect is caused
by an incorrect configuration of time zone offset due to daylight
saving time. The problem I am getting is a very inaccurate GOTO and a
counterweight pointing upwards upon parking (I always park to Park 4
position). I am running APCC Standard version 1.8.8.14. When I look at
the option "Manage Sites" I get a Time offset of -2.0, when the
correct would be -3.0. The time zone is correctly configured
(Brasilia, UTC -3), however we are not under daylight saving time this
year in Brazil (exceptionally) and I think this is causing some issue
with the way the mount is behaving. I can see that APCC is applying
daylight saving time as "TRUE" so that the offset it is sending to the
mount is UTC-2.0 instead of UTC-3.0, however since we are not under
daylight saving time this year in Brazil this may be causing some
confusion?....This has not happened last year when we were under
daylight saving time. Can someone help?

Regards,

E. Oliveira








Re: Mountains and Dragons - IC1805

Jeff B
 

" I'm using the other one to test some accessories."

Curiosity abounds.  🤔😀

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 11:05 AM Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I used just the 160 for this one. I'm using the other one to test some accessories.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Luca Marinelli <photo@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2021 7:08 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mountains and Dragons - IC1805

That’s a beautiful image. Ha luminance worked a treat to tame down the noisy channels.

Did you use both telescopes to collect this data or only one?

Luca

On Jan 29, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Pete Mumbower via groups.io <pmumbower=hotmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Wow that is a superb image, thin clouds or not. Well done. That Mach2 isn't sweating with that load!

Pete

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Tom,

Thank you guys so much! The scanner worked. I had been entering the IP address manually and gave up at
192.168.1.155...it was 157 lol...
This is nuts though. The tool should be in the APPC or astro-physics folder. One should not have to go through
so many hoops to get this.
APCC has a function to find your CP4 if it is on your LAN and assigned an IP address by your router, which looks like the case from what you said above.

-Ray Gralak
Author of PEMPro
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Blahovici
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:22 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

Hi
Yes I know. However, you require a user name and password to get access to it.
Hence I was wondering if I needed to wait until Monday to get it.
Not very user friendly. If a person is at a remote site they could have wasted time going there. I can understand
that perhaps there is some considerations about intellectual property, but in this case, an IP scanner tool does
the same thing. Not to mention that if it is at a remote site, you don't necessarily have access to the serial
number.
IMO, It should just install with APPC.
Best regards, Tom



Re: Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

Tom Blahovici
 

Hi
Yes I know. However, you require a user name and password to get access to it.
Hence I was wondering if I needed to wait until Monday to get it.
Not very user friendly. If a person is at a remote site they could have wasted time going there. I can understand that perhaps there is some considerations about intellectual property, but in this case, an IP scanner tool does the same thing.  Not to mention that if it is at a remote site, you don't necessarily have access to the serial number.
IMO, It should just install with APPC.
Best regards, Tom


Re: Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

Roland Christen
 


The tool should be in the APPC or astro-physics folder
We do have a tool on our website.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Blahovici <tom.va2fsq@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2021 7:23 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

Thank you guys so much!  The scanner worked.  I had been entering the IP address manually and gave up at 192.168.1.155...it was 157 lol...
This is nuts though.  The tool should be in the APPC or astro-physics folder.  One should not have to go through so many hoops to get this.
Anyways, you guys saved my weekend.
I'm going to write a utility to do this myself and share it here if I can.
Thanks again!!!

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Mountains and Dragons - IC1805

Roland Christen
 

I used just the 160 for this one. I'm using the other one to test some accessories.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Luca Marinelli <photo@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2021 7:08 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mountains and Dragons - IC1805

That’s a beautiful image. Ha luminance worked a treat to tame down the noisy channels.

Did you use both telescopes to collect this data or only one?

Luca

On Jan 29, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Pete Mumbower via groups.io <pmumbower@...> wrote:

Wow that is a superb image, thin clouds or not. Well done. That Mach2 isn't sweating with that load!

Pete

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Mountains and Dragons - IC1805

Willie Strickland <cwskas@...>
 

Excellent!

Willie


Re: Simple Mobile APP for control of mount

Bob
 

On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 09:38 AM, Mike Dodd wrote:
On 1/27/2021 8:20 PM, astro@... wrote:
... I do
hope to ultimately use the 1100 remotely.

Some details are on my website here:
<http://astronomy.mdodd.com/observatory.html#Remote>

(I almost never have to brave the cold to collect images. :-)

HTH.

--- Mike
Apologies Mike, I meant to reply to you before now. I looked at your website, and all I can say is WOW. Very impressive. I particularly like your use of a microcontroller. I see a lot of use for mc's like the Arduino and sbc's like the Raspberry Pi in remote observing.

Question for you, a little off topic I guess, but if your observatory was not 300 feet from your house but about 80 miles, would you feel confident in its operation? Assuming you had reliable comms between the two naturally.


Re: Simple Mobile APP for control of mount

Bob
 

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 07:31 PM, Cheng-Yang Tan wrote:
I guess this is what you want, but running on a phone or pad
Yes, indeed. It certainly is not unheard of to have a mobile app mimicking a piece of hardware. I guess the user base and other connectivity options in this case hasn't warranted it.


Re: Simple Mobile APP for control of mount

Bob
 

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 10:45 PM, Ray Gralak wrote:
Probably more a case of features I don't want. Essentially I would like an app that mimics the functionality of the
keypad. I don't want the planetarium bits. And before anyone says it, I know I could simply purchase the
hardware, but there are distinct advantages in an app being able to achieve this imho.
Then don't use the features you don't care about in the planetarium app. And BTW, the keypad has features the AP V2 ASCOM driver does not have, like an object catalog.
Yes, of course, that is obvious. And I do appreciate your other solutions. I just wanted to determine if such an app existed.

I may look at developing one now that I have some free time, observing catalog included :)

Thanks


Re: Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

Tom Blahovici
 

Found it.


Re: Mountains and Dragons - IC1805

 

a really stunning image. Great clarity, detail, and color

Brian

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 4:52 PM Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello Astronuts,

Finally got around to processing the heart of the Heart nebula, IC 1805. This was a difficult image for me because of continual thin clouds that prevented getting some of the fainter narrowband data. I managed to shoot 10.5 hours of H-a but only 3.5 hours of OIII and 5.5 hours of SII. The latter two took a lot of noise reduction to bring in. Fortunately the main detail is in H-a, so I used that for a small amount of Luminance. Most of the frames were imaged unguided, the other half was guided.


160EDF with 155 EDF piggyback on the Mach2 mount, QSI 683WSG camera, Lodestar guide camera.

Rolando



--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics



--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

Tom Blahovici
 

Will do.

I also got a new router in the last few days, and this router does not show the IP address of the mount until it is connected. That is strange since my old one did.
I never had the issue before.
Can one put a static IP into the CP4?  I see no options to do so or is it in the web interface?
Tom


Re: Find my CP4!!! How annoying!

Pete Mumbower
 

Great to hear you got the new address. If you can log into your router, you can lock the CP4 to that address via a "reserve" function. Basically the router will only give that IP address to the CP4 mac address.

Pete

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