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Re: Meridian Flip Feature Yet?

ray.palmer@...
 

Hi Rolando, 

When I press the +- button, I get a menu that controls guiding speed and slewing speed, but pressing 9 does nothing. However when I press the bottom right corner button (RA / DEC / Rev), I do get a message on the screen that says 0W. Would that be the Meridian flip feature?
--
Raymond D Palmer
Astronomer
Western Australia
www.MyAstroSpace.com
www.TheCosmicArtGallery.com


Re: APCC always on top window

deonb
 

Doh! I was looking for it in every setting dialog I could find.

Thanks!


Re: APCC always on top window

Bill Long
 

Main window, under Program Operation. 

"Keep APCC on top"




From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of deonb <deonb@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:25 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC always on top window
 
How do I disable (make it not-on top) the APCC always-on-top main window?

I figured it out for the AP ASCOM driver, but can't find that setting in APCC.


Re: APCC always on top window

 

it's under setup tab

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On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 9:25 PM deonb <deonb@...> wrote:
How do I disable (make it not-on top) the APCC always-on-top main window?

I figured it out for the AP ASCOM driver, but can't find that setting in APCC.



--
Brian 



Brian Valente


APCC always on top window

deonb
 

How do I disable (make it not-on top) the APCC always-on-top main window?

I figured it out for the AP ASCOM driver, but can't find that setting in APCC.


Re: DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO

Roland Christen
 


remove the top Dec cover
Remove the top cover of the DEC motor box, not the Dec axis top. It's the black anodized cover held on with 4 small screws.

Roland


-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>; photo@... <photo@...>
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2020 7:31 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO

Loosen all 4 clutch knobs. Move the Dec axis manually from one stop to the other. See if you can feel anything that prevents the axis from moving easily.

Then try moving the mount via the buttons at 1200x in Dec with clutches still loose. The motor should turn easily.
If it does not, remove the top Dec cover and look inside where the motor and belt reduction is. Can you turn the motor with the buttons now?

Send me the answer direct to chris1011@....

Roland Christen





-----Original Message-----
From: Luca Marinelli <photo@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2020 7:16 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO

Thanks a lot for the quick reply, Roland. I am pretty sure I mounted the dovetail with the arrow pointing forward. The USB and power port are in the back of the scope, not on the side. See the attached picture.

Also, both N and S movements result in motor stalls, not just in one direction.

Thanks again,

Luca




On Dec 26, 2020, at 8:01 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


It sounds like you are hitting the internal hard limit. You probably have the scope mounted at 90 degrees from the arrow on the top of the Dec mounting plate. Remove your scope and dovetail and look at the mounting plate. You will se a long arrow. This is the direction that your scope must point. You cannot mount it at 90 degrees or you simply run out of Dec motion when pointing south and the axis will hit the hard stop and the motors will stall with yellow light coming on.

Can you post a picture showing the scope pointing at the north pole?

Roland Christen
Astro-Physics Inc.



-----Original Message-----
From: Luca Marinelli <photo@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2020 6:16 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO

Today I replaced the Mach1 in the observatory with the new Mach2 I received a few days ago. I have a Tak FSQ106 mounted on the Mach2 and it balanced without any problems. I tested a slew and everything worked fine. I then started to set up the Meridian limit in APCC Pro and after sending the scope to the Southern horizon (-15 degrees DEC) I started experiencing motor stalls. The mount makes a whirring/grinding noise when trying to slew in DEC and APCC communication window shows motor stall condition. The light on the CP5 turns amber. I measured the voltage out of the power supply and it is correct (24.94V). I also replaced the power supply with the power supply i used with the Mach1 and the same thing happened. To test the motor cable, I swapped DEC and RA cables and the fault was still on the DEC axis. I removed the telescope and tried slewing the empty mount in DEC, to no avail (motor stalls). 

APCC Pro version: 1.8.8.11
CP5 firmware: VCP5-P02-08
Encoder version: A02-08

Is there anything obvious I am missing?

thanks,

Luca
 

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO

Roland Christen
 

Loosen all 4 clutch knobs. Move the Dec axis manually from one stop to the other. See if you can feel anything that prevents the axis from moving easily.

Then try moving the mount via the buttons at 1200x in Dec with clutches still loose. The motor should turn easily.
If it does not, remove the top Dec cover and look inside where the motor and belt reduction is. Can you turn the motor with the buttons now?

Send me the answer direct to chris1011@....

Roland Christen





-----Original Message-----
From: Luca Marinelli <photo@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2020 7:16 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO

Thanks a lot for the quick reply, Roland. I am pretty sure I mounted the dovetail with the arrow pointing forward. The USB and power port are in the back of the scope, not on the side. See the attached picture.

Also, both N and S movements result in motor stalls, not just in one direction.

Thanks again,

Luca




On Dec 26, 2020, at 8:01 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


It sounds like you are hitting the internal hard limit. You probably have the scope mounted at 90 degrees from the arrow on the top of the Dec mounting plate. Remove your scope and dovetail and look at the mounting plate. You will se a long arrow. This is the direction that your scope must point. You cannot mount it at 90 degrees or you simply run out of Dec motion when pointing south and the axis will hit the hard stop and the motors will stall with yellow light coming on.

Can you post a picture showing the scope pointing at the north pole?

Roland Christen
Astro-Physics Inc.



-----Original Message-----
From: Luca Marinelli <photo@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2020 6:16 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO

Today I replaced the Mach1 in the observatory with the new Mach2 I received a few days ago. I have a Tak FSQ106 mounted on the Mach2 and it balanced without any problems. I tested a slew and everything worked fine. I then started to set up the Meridian limit in APCC Pro and after sending the scope to the Southern horizon (-15 degrees DEC) I started experiencing motor stalls. The mount makes a whirring/grinding noise when trying to slew in DEC and APCC communication window shows motor stall condition. The light on the CP5 turns amber. I measured the voltage out of the power supply and it is correct (24.94V). I also replaced the power supply with the power supply i used with the Mach1 and the same thing happened. To test the motor cable, I swapped DEC and RA cables and the fault was still on the DEC axis. I removed the telescope and tried slewing the empty mount in DEC, to no avail (motor stalls). 

APCC Pro version: 1.8.8.11
CP5 firmware: VCP5-P02-08
Encoder version: A02-08

Is there anything obvious I am missing?

thanks,

Luca
 

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Mach2GTO first light #Mach2GTO

Karen Christen
 

That looks terrific, Tim!

Karen

AP

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Morrill via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:34 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2GTO first light #Mach2GTO

 

Thanks Karen.
I just uploaded The finish damage to the gallery section was able to add SII. So now it is a complete hubble color palette.

https://ap-ug.groups.io/g/main/photo/258611/0?p=Created,,,20,2,0,0


--
Karen Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO

Luca Marinelli
 

Thanks a lot for the quick reply, Roland. I am pretty sure I mounted the dovetail with the arrow pointing forward. The USB and power port are in the back of the scope, not on the side. See the attached picture.

Also, both N and S movements result in motor stalls, not just in one direction.

Thanks again,

Luca




On Dec 26, 2020, at 8:01 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


It sounds like you are hitting the internal hard limit. You probably have the scope mounted at 90 degrees from the arrow on the top of the Dec mounting plate. Remove your scope and dovetail and look at the mounting plate. You will se a long arrow. This is the direction that your scope must point. You cannot mount it at 90 degrees or you simply run out of Dec motion when pointing south and the axis will hit the hard stop and the motors will stall with yellow light coming on.

Can you post a picture showing the scope pointing at the north pole?

Roland Christen
Astro-Physics Inc.



-----Original Message-----
From: Luca Marinelli <photo@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2020 6:16 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO

Today I replaced the Mach1 in the observatory with the new Mach2 I received a few days ago. I have a Tak FSQ106 mounted on the Mach2 and it balanced without any problems. I tested a slew and everything worked fine. I then started to set up the Meridian limit in APCC Pro and after sending the scope to the Southern horizon (-15 degrees DEC) I started experiencing motor stalls. The mount makes a whirring/grinding noise when trying to slew in DEC and APCC communication window shows motor stall condition. The light on the CP5 turns amber. I measured the voltage out of the power supply and it is correct (24.94V). I also replaced the power supply with the power supply i used with the Mach1 and the same thing happened. To test the motor cable, I swapped DEC and RA cables and the fault was still on the DEC axis. I removed the telescope and tried slewing the empty mount in DEC, to no avail (motor stalls). 

APCC Pro version: 1.8.8.11
CP5 firmware: VCP5-P02-08
Encoder version: A02-08

Is there anything obvious I am missing?

thanks,

Luca
 

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO

Roland Christen
 

It sounds like you are hitting the internal hard limit. You probably have the scope mounted at 90 degrees from the arrow on the top of the Dec mounting plate. Remove your scope and dovetail and look at the mounting plate. You will se a long arrow. This is the direction that your scope must point. You cannot mount it at 90 degrees or you simply run out of Dec motion when pointing south and the axis will hit the hard stop and the motors will stall with yellow light coming on.

Can you post a picture showing the scope pointing at the north pole?

Roland Christen
Astro-Physics Inc.



-----Original Message-----
From: Luca Marinelli <photo@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2020 6:16 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO

Today I replaced the Mach1 in the observatory with the new Mach2 I received a few days ago. I have a Tak FSQ106 mounted on the Mach2 and it balanced without any problems. I tested a slew and everything worked fine. I then started to set up the Meridian limit in APCC Pro and after sending the scope to the Southern horizon (-15 degrees DEC) I started experiencing motor stalls. The mount makes a whirring/grinding noise when trying to slew in DEC and APCC communication window shows motor stall condition. The light on the CP5 turns amber. I measured the voltage out of the power supply and it is correct (24.94V). I also replaced the power supply with the power supply i used with the Mach1 and the same thing happened. To test the motor cable, I swapped DEC and RA cables and the fault was still on the DEC axis. I removed the telescope and tried slewing the empty mount in DEC, to no avail (motor stalls). 

APCC Pro version: 1.8.8.11
CP5 firmware: VCP5-P02-08
Encoder version: A02-08

Is there anything obvious I am missing?

thanks,

Luca
 

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


DEC Motor stalls on new Mach2GTO

Luca Marinelli
 

Today I replaced the Mach1 in the observatory with the new Mach2 I received a few days ago. I have a Tak FSQ106 mounted on the Mach2 and it balanced without any problems. I tested a slew and everything worked fine. I then started to set up the Meridian limit in APCC Pro and after sending the scope to the Southern horizon (-15 degrees DEC) I started experiencing motor stalls. The mount makes a whirring/grinding noise when trying to slew in DEC and APCC communication window shows motor stall condition. The light on the CP5 turns amber. I measured the voltage out of the power supply and it is correct (24.94V). I also replaced the power supply with the power supply i used with the Mach1 and the same thing happened. To test the motor cable, I swapped DEC and RA cables and the fault was still on the DEC axis. I removed the telescope and tried slewing the empty mount in DEC, to no avail (motor stalls). 

APCC Pro version: 1.8.8.11
CP5 firmware: VCP5-P02-08
Encoder version: A02-08

Is there anything obvious I am missing?

thanks,

Luca
 


Re: Initial GoTo In APCC Pro Cause Nose or Tail Dive

Ray Gralak
 

John,

I see you have pointing correction enabled, and the tracking rate is extremely high, meaning you probably have a bad model.

So, try turning off tracking-rate and pointing correction on APCC's Pointing Model tab.

-Ray Gralak
Author of PEMPro
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 3:55 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Initial GoTo In APCC Pro Cause Nose or Tail Dive

Aloha Ray,

I just sent you the screen shots via email.

Once I slew more than 10 degrees (in either direction), stop the slew, the DEC reads 00 00 00. While slewing and
holding down the left
mouse button, I can see the DEC coordinates actually slewing/changing. But after stopping the slew, the DEC
coordinates revert to 00 00 00
Kind of strange...

After pressing the 'find home' button, the DEC displays the coordinates correctly (after the slew stops) and like what
you're seeing in your screen shot
Hope the screen shots help, thanks!

John



Re: Initial GoTo In APCC Pro Cause Nose or Tail Dive

John
 

Aloha Ray,

  I just sent you the screen shots via email.

  Once I slew more than 10 degrees (in either direction), stop the slew, the DEC reads 00 00 00.  While slewing and holding down the left
mouse button, I can see the DEC coordinates actually slewing/changing.  But after stopping the slew, the DEC coordinates revert to 00 00 00
Kind of strange...

  After pressing the 'find home' button, the DEC displays the coordinates correctly (after the slew stops) and like what you're seeing in your screen shot
Hope the screen shots help, thanks!

      John


Re: Mach2GTO first light #Mach2GTO

Tim Morrill
 
Edited

Thanks Karen.
I just uploaded The finish imaging to the gallery section. Was able to add SII. So now it is a completed hubble color palette.

https://ap-ug.groups.io/g/main/photo/258611/0?p=Created,,,20,2,0,0


Re: Initial GoTo In APCC Pro Cause Nose or Tail Dive

Ray Gralak
 

John,

I just tried unparking from Park 3 and using the move buttons to move more than 10 degrees from (Park 3 dec = +89 59 59)

See attached image.

-Ray Gralak
Author of PEMPro
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 2:42 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Initial GoTo In APCC Pro Cause Nose or Tail Dive

Aloha Ray,

ok, I'll get some screen shots sent over to you. I'll just put them all in a MS Word doc.

I was connecting to it again today, but it's still doing the same thing. The only thing new (that I noticed) was that the
DEC
coordinates displayed correctly whenever the dec was within 10 degrees of Park 3. In other words, once you slew
more than
10 degree in DEC, release the mouse button, then the dec readout indicates 00 00 00.

I was looking in the APCC PRO user guide to see if I could initialize the mount again (after sending it home), but they
may not be an option

Thanks!

John


Re: Initial GoTo In APCC Pro Cause Nose or Tail Dive

John
 

Aloha Ray,

  ok, I'll get some screen shots sent over to you.  I'll just put them all in a MS Word doc.

  I was connecting to it again today, but it's still doing the same thing.  The only thing new (that I noticed) was that the DEC
coordinates displayed correctly whenever the dec was within 10 degrees of Park 3.  In other words, once you slew more than
10 degree in DEC, release the mouse button, then the dec readout indicates 00 00 00.

  I was looking in the APCC PRO user guide to see if I could initialize the mount again (after sending it home), but they may not be an option

  Thanks!

      John


Re: Initial GoTo In APCC Pro Cause Nose or Tail Dive

Ray Gralak
 

Hi John,

After connecting to the mount via apcc only (no keypad connected) and unparking, I tried some 'manual' slews, using
the N S E W buttons in apcc. Using the mouse, if I slew the mount
about 20 degrees in DEC (either N or S) and then stop slewing, the current DEC readout (both in apcc and in the
driver window) will indicate 00 00 00.
I finally had a chance to go through your logs, and unfortunately, I cannot find any indication of the behavior you were seeing.

How about trying this again and taking a screenshot of what you are seeing (Dec=00 00 00)?

-Ray Gralak
Author of PEMPro
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 3:19 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Initial GoTo In APCC Pro Cause Nose or Tail Dive

Aloha Ray,

2 days worth came out to be about 11mbs. I just tried sending the zip file via email, thanks!

John


Re: Mach2GTO first light #Mach2GTO

John
 

Nice tight stars!


Need width and thread size of threaded top end if 1.875” counterweight shafts

Mark Dearing
 

I Need the width and thread size of threaded top end of 1.875” counterweight shafts.

Thanks in advance,

Mark


Re: Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

 

Roland sets up something similar during the indoor final testing phase for each Mach2GTO. It is a bit of a chore, but has deepened his understanding of this mount.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Anderson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 11:45 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

 

Wow! Just setting it up must have been quite a chore. I suppose you have to wash dishes for a week after taking this picture.

Merry Christmas to you and Marg and the rest of the crew at AP.

Regards

 

Don Anderson

 

 

On Thursday, December 24, 2020, 05:04:19 p.m. MST, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:

 

 

Well, I couldn't resist. Here's a pix of the setup with the caveat of WHAT NOT TO DO!

 

It's a 155EDF on top of a 160EDF, each has CCD cameras and Quad TCC hand grenades. The two scopes weigh ... I don't really know. The goodie bag on the end of the counterweight shaft holds another 10lb weight because I ran out of shaft length. Total cwt = 3x 14lb plus 5x 10lb plus 1x 5lb. (yes it tracks and slews just fine, but a bit boingy if you bang on it).
I set this up to test the QuadTCC with the 155EDF scope for a customer request, but didn't want to disturb my 160 setup which I am using for a winter imaging project.

 

Do Not try this at home upon pain of death from Marj!!! (my death mostly) Disappointed

 

Rolando

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: chris1011@...
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 1:33 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

Marj has forbidden me from taking a pix of this setup! Upon pain of death and worse. Flushed

 

Rolando

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcelo Figueroa via groups.io <marfig1970@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 12:32 PM, Roland Christen wrote:

Right now I have my Mach2 loaded with two 6" refractors, one on top the other, and all the heavy camera gear and counterweights galore, which is in the no-no zone. Just to make sure that these kinds of loads work in a stable and accurate manner (and because I like to do crazy stuff)  Stuck out tongue closed eyes


We want a picture of that! :D


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics

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