Date   

Re: Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

Jeff B
 

" Well, posting to CN won't fix things."  OMG, really!!  My world is shaken to the core.  😵😱

" I don't understand why people post problems on CN without first contacting the manufacturer. "  Amen

A Merry Christmas to the entire AP family and thanks for hanging in there and putting up with us customers. 😁

Jeff

(a 35+ year customer)



On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 11:20 AM Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well, posting to CN won't fix things. If the poster contacts us, we can patch into his controller, see what version of software he has and the settings, and actually watch it do the tracking. I don't understand why people post problems on CN without first contacting the manufacturer.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: W Hilmo <y.groups@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 8:32 am
Subject: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

There are a couple of Mach2 threads on Cloudy Nights.

Last night, someone posted a couple of sample images here:  https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/694300-mach2-waiting-list/?p=10752413

I would be interested in understanding what's happening with the image that shows the mount transcribing little loops while tracking.  The author of the post says that changing the counterweight configuration to use higher weight, but farther down the shaft, corrected the problem.  The author suggests that it's taking the encoders some time to correct tracking errors, but my experience with my AP1600AE suggests that the encoders are so fast, that it would be very hard to catch the corrections in an image like that.

Any ideas?

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Microsoft and the Death Star

Don Anderson
 

Hear Hear Bill.
There is a reason MSW is the operation system of the vast majority of the computers on the planet!

Don Anderson


On Thursday, December 24, 2020, 05:56:16 a.m. MST, Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:


Thought I would share this about a week after the article was published.


There is a lot of talk on CN and here, and other places about how people dislike Microsoft or have disdain for Windows, and that is what it is. The old adage is that they are the Evil Empire.

This article puts a good spin on that moniker. They turned their meme Death Star on the largest security breach in history and obliterated their operation.

I did not see a single post here or on CN that gave the company props for that.  I know this isn't exactly AP-GTO related, but their software (mostly Windows) is berated here from time to time, so I thought it would be fair to share a good light, on what I think is a great company these days.

I hope you all are well this holiday season, and I hope the skies bring you some good fortune in the days to come.

Clear Skies!

Bill Long


Re: Mach2GTO first light #Mach2GTO

Karen Christen
 

That looks great, Tim!  I’d love to see a bigger version if you have a link.  Groups.io will limit the size of attachments, but you’re welcome to upload your image to the Photos section of the Groups.io page and send a link to that, if you like. 

Karen

AP

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Morrill via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 12:18 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Mach2GTO first light #Mach2GTO

 

Hi everyone. 

My first post on here. Though I would share my first image 
with the Mach2. I’ve only had a few clear night since receiving it last week but was able to get some data on the hearth Nebula this is bicolor. Ha and OIII. As I didn’t have time to capture SII before bad weather.

So far the mount is doing great. I was able to get five minute exposures unguided with no problems. With just a quick 33 point model and it sitting on my deck! 

Equipment.
Takahashi FSQ106mm 
FLI8300 
Eagle2
Optec OAG 
Mach2
Ha 20x 20min exposures
OIII 18x 20min exposures


--
Karen Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

Roland Christen
 

Well, posting to CN won't fix things. If the poster contacts us, we can patch into his controller, see what version of software he has and the settings, and actually watch it do the tracking. I don't understand why people post problems on CN without first contacting the manufacturer.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: W Hilmo <y.groups@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 8:32 am
Subject: [ap-gto] Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

There are a couple of Mach2 threads on Cloudy Nights.

Last night, someone posted a couple of sample images here:  https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/694300-mach2-waiting-list/?p=10752413

I would be interested in understanding what's happening with the image that shows the mount transcribing little loops while tracking.  The author of the post says that changing the counterweight configuration to use higher weight, but farther down the shaft, corrected the problem.  The author suggests that it's taking the encoders some time to correct tracking errors, but my experience with my AP1600AE suggests that the encoders are so fast, that it would be very hard to catch the corrections in an image like that.

Any ideas?

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

 

Also correct with the most recent versions of APCC. Ray has already adjusted APCC for the newer rate table.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Long
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 12:00 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

 

I should also add that APCC movements are not affected by this change, so if you use the "buttons" in APCC to move the mount, they will work at the proper speed selected. 

 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Long <bill@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 9:55 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

 

SN 4298 is new enough to use Keypad V5. It is not released yet though. 

 

You can install P02-08, but if you do the keypad button movement for 1200x is not accessible due to the change in the controller. Slews will still be fine, but the button movements wont. This will be solved when Keypad V5 is released for CP4 users.

 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 9:51 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

 

I want to make sure I understand Marj's comment above. Are you saying that for those of us with older keypads and software versions (mine is S/N 4298 GTO with software version 4.19.2), we should wait until the new keypad software is released and installed before loading the new version P02-08 into our GTOCP4 ?


Re: Microsoft and the Death Star

Bill Long
 

I work on Windows, but the security side of the platform, on a product only we use at this point. I am pleased though, to hear that your business that I adore so much runs on Windows. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 8:12 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Microsoft and the Death Star
 
As much as some of us like to complain, we here all rely on Windows computers to run our operation. Windows runs our design software, our testing hardware, our CNC machines, our accounting and office software, my imaging software etc etc. No way we could produce much of anything without this vital tool.

So I wish a Merry Christmas to all who work there, as well as all people on Earth, bar none (even the Grinches)
Kissing heart

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Long <bill@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 6:56 am
Subject: [ap-gto] Microsoft and the Death Star

Thought I would share this about a week after the article was published.


There is a lot of talk on CN and here, and other places about how people dislike Microsoft or have disdain for Windows, and that is what it is. The old adage is that they are the Evil Empire.

This article puts a good spin on that moniker. They turned their meme Death Star on the largest security breach in history and obliterated their operation.

I did not see a single post here or on CN that gave the company props for that.  I know this isn't exactly AP-GTO related, but their software (mostly Windows) is berated here from time to time, so I thought it would be fair to share a good light, on what I think is a great company these days.

I hope you all are well this holiday season, and I hope the skies bring you some good fortune in the days to come.

Clear Skies!

Bill Long


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

 

Yes, Bill. That is correct. Thank you.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Long
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 11:55 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

 

SN 4298 is new enough to use Keypad V5. It is not released yet though. 

 

You can install P02-08, but if you do the keypad button movement for 1200x is not accessible due to the change in the controller. Slews will still be fine, but the button movements wont. This will be solved when Keypad V5 is released for CP4 users.

 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 9:51 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

 

I want to make sure I understand Marj's comment above. Are you saying that for those of us with older keypads and software versions (mine is S/N 4298 GTO with software version 4.19.2), we should wait until the new keypad software is released and installed before loading the new version P02-08 into our GTOCP4 ?


Re: Microsoft and the Death Star

Roland Christen
 

As much as some of us like to complain, we here all rely on Windows computers to run our operation. Windows runs our design software, our testing hardware, our CNC machines, our accounting and office software, my imaging software etc etc. No way we could produce much of anything without this vital tool.

So I wish a Merry Christmas to all who work there, as well as all people on Earth, bar none (even the Grinches)
Kissing heart

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Long <bill@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2020 6:56 am
Subject: [ap-gto] Microsoft and the Death Star

Thought I would share this about a week after the article was published.


There is a lot of talk on CN and here, and other places about how people dislike Microsoft or have disdain for Windows, and that is what it is. The old adage is that they are the Evil Empire.

This article puts a good spin on that moniker. They turned their meme Death Star on the largest security breach in history and obliterated their operation.

I did not see a single post here or on CN that gave the company props for that.  I know this isn't exactly AP-GTO related, but their software (mostly Windows) is berated here from time to time, so I thought it would be fair to share a good light, on what I think is a great company these days.

I hope you all are well this holiday season, and I hope the skies bring you some good fortune in the days to come.

Clear Skies!

Bill Long


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Mach2GTO first light #Mach2GTO

Jeff B
 

👍👌🎄🔭

On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 10:36 AM Tim Morrill via groups.io <helo4=mac.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi everyone. 

My first post on here. Though I would share my first image 
with the Mach2. I’ve only had a few clear night since receiving it last week but was able to get some data on the hearth Nebula this is bicolor. Ha and OIII. As I didn’t have time to capture SII before bad weather.

So far the mount is doing great. I was able to get five minute exposures unguided with no problems. With just a quick 33 point model and it sitting on my deck! 

Equipment.
Takahashi FSQ106mm 
FLI8300 
Eagle2
Optec OAG 
Mach2
Ha 20x 20min exposures
OIII 18x 20min exposures


Re: Microsoft and the Death Star

Ray Gralak
 

Very nice! Kudos to Microsoft for taking this action!!

-Ray Gralak
Author of PEMPro
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Long
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 4:56 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Microsoft and the Death Star

Thought I would share this about a week after the article was published.

Microsoft unleashes 'Death Star' on SolarWinds hackers in extraordinary response to breach - GeekWire
<https://www.geekwire.com/2020/microsoft-unleashes-death-star-solarwinds-hackers-extraordinary-response-
breach/>


There is a lot of talk on CN and here, and other places about how people dislike Microsoft or have disdain for
Windows, and that is what it is. The old adage is that they are the Evil Empire.

This article puts a good spin on that moniker. They turned their meme Death Star on the largest security breach in
history and obliterated their operation.

I did not see a single post here or on CN that gave the company props for that. I know this isn't exactly AP-GTO
related, but their software (mostly Windows) is berated here from time to time, so I thought it would be fair to
share a good light, on what I think is a great company these days.

I hope you all are well this holiday season, and I hope the skies bring you some good fortune in the days to come.

Clear Skies!

Bill Long


Re: Microsoft and the Death Star

Robert Chozick
 

Thanks for sharing this. 

Robert 


On Dec 24, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:


Don't need them. We have a Death Star. 😋


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Lee Dodge <ldodge12@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 7:28 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Microsoft and the Death Star
 
Bill-

What an interesting and entertaining article.  I was not aware of Microsoft's actions, especially since our government has been ineffective in addressing the problem.  
'

Lee


Re: Microsoft and the Death Star

Bill Long
 

Don't need them. We have a Death Star. 😋


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Lee Dodge <ldodge12@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 7:28 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Microsoft and the Death Star
 
Bill-

What an interesting and entertaining article.  I was not aware of Microsoft's actions, especially since our government has been ineffective in addressing the problem.  
'

Lee


Mach2GTO first light #Mach2GTO

Tim Morrill
 

Hi everyone. 

My first post on here. Though I would share my first image 
with the Mach2. I’ve only had a few clear night since receiving it last week but was able to get some data on the hearth Nebula this is bicolor. Ha and OIII. As I didn’t have time to capture SII before bad weather.

So far the mount is doing great. I was able to get five minute exposures unguided with no problems. With just a quick 33 point model and it sitting on my deck! 

Equipment.
Takahashi FSQ106mm 
FLI8300 
Eagle2
Optec OAG 
Mach2
Ha 20x 20min exposures
OIII 18x 20min exposures


Re: Microsoft and the Death Star

Lee Dodge
 

Bill-

What an interesting and entertaining article.  I was not aware of Microsoft's actions, especially since our government has been ineffective in addressing the problem.  
'

Lee


Interesting Mach2 Behavior on Cloudy Nights

W Hilmo
 

There are a couple of Mach2 threads on Cloudy Nights.

Last night, someone posted a couple of sample images here:  https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/694300-mach2-waiting-list/?p=10752413

I would be interested in understanding what's happening with the image that shows the mount transcribing little loops while tracking.  The author of the post says that changing the counterweight configuration to use higher weight, but farther down the shaft, corrected the problem.  The author suggests that it's taking the encoders some time to correct tracking errors, but my experience with my AP1600AE suggests that the encoders are so fast, that it would be very hard to catch the corrections in an image like that.

Any ideas?


Microsoft and the Death Star

Bill Long
 

Thought I would share this about a week after the article was published.


There is a lot of talk on CN and here, and other places about how people dislike Microsoft or have disdain for Windows, and that is what it is. The old adage is that they are the Evil Empire.

This article puts a good spin on that moniker. They turned their meme Death Star on the largest security breach in history and obliterated their operation.

I did not see a single post here or on CN that gave the company props for that.  I know this isn't exactly AP-GTO related, but their software (mostly Windows) is berated here from time to time, so I thought it would be fair to share a good light, on what I think is a great company these days.

I hope you all are well this holiday season, and I hope the skies bring you some good fortune in the days to come.

Clear Skies!

Bill Long


Re: leveling the RAPAS on Mach2

Jeffc
 



On Dec 23, 2020, at 10:21 AM, Don Anderson via groups.io <jockey_ca@...> wrote:


The AP portable pier has quite a bit of adjustment range using the turnbuckles for leveling the top plate.


Don - I was going to mention the slight leveling capability, but it is not relevant to the OP (fixed wood Tak tripod) and is tangential to the topic.

Fwiw, I find using the turnbuckles only gives me a tiny amount of movement.  
In the 15 years I’ve been setting up the portable pier w/ AP1200 at a location for public outreach the pavement is never flat enough and I need a shim.   I’ve given up on the turnbuckles, and just shim it.  Much faster setup time. 

Don Anderson


On Wednesday, December 23, 2020, 10:00:40 a.m. MST, Jeffc <jeffcrilly@...> wrote:


Fwiw...  I use an AP portable pier which does not have level adjustment.   I’m more concerned with weight imbalance but I also prefer a level pier when imagining.   

So... I level the pier with a plastic bubble level (or iPhone measure app) and some thin hardwood “shims” under one (or two) of legs as needed.  

-jeff 


Re: Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

Bill Long
 

I should also add that APCC movements are not affected by this change, so if you use the "buttons" in APCC to move the mount, they will work at the proper speed selected. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Long <bill@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 9:55 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes
 
SN 4298 is new enough to use Keypad V5. It is not released yet though. 

You can install P02-08, but if you do the keypad button movement for 1200x is not accessible due to the change in the controller. Slews will still be fine, but the button movements wont. This will be solved when Keypad V5 is released for CP4 users.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 9:51 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes
 
I want to make sure I understand Marj's comment above. Are you saying that for those of us with older keypads and software versions (mine is S/N 4298 GTO with software version 4.19.2), we should wait until the new keypad software is released and installed before loading the new version P02-08 into our GTOCP4 ?


Re: Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

Bill Long
 

SN 4298 is new enough to use Keypad V5. It is not released yet though. 

You can install P02-08, but if you do the keypad button movement for 1200x is not accessible due to the change in the controller. Slews will still be fine, but the button movements wont. This will be solved when Keypad V5 is released for CP4 users.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 9:51 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes
 
I want to make sure I understand Marj's comment above. Are you saying that for those of us with older keypads and software versions (mine is S/N 4298 GTO with software version 4.19.2), we should wait until the new keypad software is released and installed before loading the new version P02-08 into our GTOCP4 ?


Re: Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

M Hambrick
 

I want to make sure I understand Marj's comment above. Are you saying that for those of us with older keypads and software versions (mine is S/N 4298 GTO with software version 4.19.2), we should wait until the new keypad software is released and installed before loading the new version P02-08 into our GTOCP4 ?

8261 - 8280 of 83330