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Re: M42 from my future observatory site

Kent Kirkley
 

Robert

So a little west of Crowell and probably not all that far from
the observatory complex. Probably a good choice if they
chose the area too. That would be a good hour further than
Ft. Griffin. Do you plan on having it be remotely operated?

Kent



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Dec 19, 2020 3:16 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] M42 from my future observatory site

Hi Kent. Well it had rained an hour earlier.  It was not a good night.  The property is between Paducah and Guthrie east of Lubbock. 

Robert 


On Dec 19, 2020, at 3:12 PM, Kent Kirkley via groups.io <kgkirkley@...> wrote:


Robert

Out of curiosity, where is the property located?
The fact that you had so much humidity is concerning but
even Ft. Davis can have high humidity.

Kent Kirkley



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Dec 19, 2020 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] M42 from my future observatory site

 Because of the high humidity there was a lot of moisture in the air. Must of the subs had high thin clouds making the brighter portions glow. I left in some that messed up the brightest stars.  If not it would have been only 10 subs. I threw out 20 subs. By the time I stopped the sky was full of moisture  The new land is high bortle 2 with a ranking of 21.99 on the light pollution map. 

Robert 


On Dec 19, 2020, at 1:51 PM, Clement Elechi <celechi@...> wrote:


Hello Robert,

Wonderful shot.  Just curious about the subs you threw out because of high humidity.  In what way were they so much worse than the others?

I have been eyeing the ASI12600, so I need to remain on the CFO's good side for a while yetEmoji

Clem

============================

My flickr gallery:


On Saturday, December 19, 2020, 2:37:06 PM EST, Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...> wrote:


I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


Re: M42 from my future observatory site

Roland Christen
 

What kind of problems? I'm looking to buy one, but not if there are significant issues.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Long <bill@...>
To: Clement Elechi <celechi@...>; main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Dec 19, 2020 1:54 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] M42 from my future observatory site

Looks great!

I had nothing but problems with my 6200 mono, but the smaller chip seems to be doing well. 

The new 4/3 mono with two different effective pixel sizes is really interesting. I picked up the QHY 284M Pro to check it out.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Clement Elechi <celechi@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 11:51 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] M42 from my future observatory site
 
Hello Robert,

Wonderful shot.  Just curious about the subs you threw out because of high humidity.  In what way were they so much worse than the others?

I have been eyeing the ASI12600, so I need to remain on the CFO's good side for a while yetEmoji

Clem

============================

My flickr gallery:


On Saturday, December 19, 2020, 2:37:06 PM EST, Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...> wrote:


I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: M42 from my future observatory site

Robert Chozick
 

Hi Kent. Well it had rained an hour earlier.  It was not a good night.  The property is between Paducah and Guthrie east of Lubbock. 

Robert 


On Dec 19, 2020, at 3:12 PM, Kent Kirkley via groups.io <kgkirkley@...> wrote:


Robert

Out of curiosity, where is the property located?
The fact that you had so much humidity is concerning but
even Ft. Davis can have high humidity.

Kent Kirkley



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Dec 19, 2020 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] M42 from my future observatory site

 Because of the high humidity there was a lot of moisture in the air. Must of the subs had high thin clouds making the brighter portions glow. I left in some that messed up the brightest stars.  If not it would have been only 10 subs. I threw out 20 subs. By the time I stopped the sky was full of moisture  The new land is high bortle 2 with a ranking of 21.99 on the light pollution map. 

Robert 


On Dec 19, 2020, at 1:51 PM, Clement Elechi <celechi@...> wrote:


Hello Robert,

Wonderful shot.  Just curious about the subs you threw out because of high humidity.  In what way were they so much worse than the others?

I have been eyeing the ASI12600, so I need to remain on the CFO's good side for a while yetEmoji

Clem

============================

My flickr gallery:


On Saturday, December 19, 2020, 2:37:06 PM EST, Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...> wrote:


I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


Re: M42 from my future observatory site

Robert Chozick
 

Thanks for the comments. The 16 bit CMOS makes such a difference.   I can’t wait to get a lot more time on this. 

Robert 


On Dec 19, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:


Looks great!

I had nothing but problems with my 6200 mono, but the smaller chip seems to be doing well. 

The new 4/3 mono with two different effective pixel sizes is really interesting. I picked up the QHY 284M Pro to check it out.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Clement Elechi <celechi@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 11:51 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] M42 from my future observatory site
 
Hello Robert,

Wonderful shot.  Just curious about the subs you threw out because of high humidity.  In what way were they so much worse than the others?

I have been eyeing the ASI12600, so I need to remain on the CFO's good side for a while yetEmoji

Clem

============================

My flickr gallery:


On Saturday, December 19, 2020, 2:37:06 PM EST, Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...> wrote:


I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


Re: M42 from my future observatory site

Kent Kirkley
 

Robert

Out of curiosity, where is the property located?
The fact that you had so much humidity is concerning but
even Ft. Davis can have high humidity.

Kent Kirkley



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Dec 19, 2020 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] M42 from my future observatory site

 Because of the high humidity there was a lot of moisture in the air. Must of the subs had high thin clouds making the brighter portions glow. I left in some that messed up the brightest stars.  If not it would have been only 10 subs. I threw out 20 subs. By the time I stopped the sky was full of moisture  The new land is high bortle 2 with a ranking of 21.99 on the light pollution map. 

Robert 


On Dec 19, 2020, at 1:51 PM, Clement Elechi <celechi@...> wrote:


Hello Robert,

Wonderful shot.  Just curious about the subs you threw out because of high humidity.  In what way were they so much worse than the others?

I have been eyeing the ASI12600, so I need to remain on the CFO's good side for a while yetEmoji

Clem

============================

My flickr gallery:


On Saturday, December 19, 2020, 2:37:06 PM EST, Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...> wrote:


I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


Re: M42 from my future observatory site

Mark Ledbury
 

Absolutely stunning image - woo!  Thank you for sharing this!
Mark

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 11:37 AM Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


Re: Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

garyemc
 

Marj

If I have the older keypad with the 256k circuit board, can I send that in to AP and have the circuit board upgraded so I can take advantage of the new software??

gary


Re: Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO

Bill Long
 

Sharpcap works wonderfully. Why not just use that? I use that to Polar Align for unguided imaging all the time. The residual error I get reported in APCC Pro after a sky model run proves out how good it is. No need for a Polemaster and no need for a RAPAS.



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Micheal Fields Jr via groups.io <mpfjr@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 12:10 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO
 
@Woody

I am trying not to buy more stuff than I need.  An RAPAS is great but unless someone gives me one I have no intention of spending $500.00 on something I'll only use one time.   

For example I did not buy the hand controller.  The reason I am asking these questions is that I am trying to do this in my back yard just to play around and learn the software before I take it all out and put it up in my observatory 2 hours drive away.   Would be super handy to have a polemaster or RAPAS but it is not something I'll need more than once.


Re: Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO

Bill Long
 

AP mounts are incredibly easy to balance, easy to use, and easy to forget it is even there. 

Did you know: AP mounts can safely be used in the CW up position to image all night without the need for a Meridian flip? The more you know... 🙂 

Obviously, you would need to ensure clearance... but the gear supports it nicely both physically and in the software. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Micheal Fields Jr via groups.io <mpfjr@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 12:00 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO
 
No but there are still "good ideas" and those good ideas find themselves being used by everyone.

I very rarely use my mount's built in balance utility anyways so it isn't a big deal that there can't be one for the Mach2GTO.  I was just asking if I missed the feature hidden away somewhere.


Re: M42 from my future observatory site

Bill Long
 

Looks great!

I had nothing but problems with my 6200 mono, but the smaller chip seems to be doing well. 

The new 4/3 mono with two different effective pixel sizes is really interesting. I picked up the QHY 284M Pro to check it out.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Clement Elechi <celechi@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 11:51 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] M42 from my future observatory site
 
Hello Robert,

Wonderful shot.  Just curious about the subs you threw out because of high humidity.  In what way were they so much worse than the others?

I have been eyeing the ASI12600, so I need to remain on the CFO's good side for a while yetEmoji

Clem

============================

My flickr gallery:


On Saturday, December 19, 2020, 2:37:06 PM EST, Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...> wrote:


I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


Re: M42 from my future observatory site

Robert Chozick
 

Because of the high humidity there was a lot of moisture in the air. Must of the subs had high thin clouds making the brighter portions glow. I left in some that messed up the brightest stars.  If not it would have been only 10 subs. I threw out 20 subs. By the time I stopped the sky was full of moisture  The new land is high bortle 2 with a ranking of 21.99 on the light pollution map. 

Robert 


On Dec 19, 2020, at 1:51 PM, Clement Elechi <celechi@...> wrote:


Hello Robert,

Wonderful shot.  Just curious about the subs you threw out because of high humidity.  In what way were they so much worse than the others?

I have been eyeing the ASI12600, so I need to remain on the CFO's good side for a while yetEmoji

Clem

============================

My flickr gallery:


On Saturday, December 19, 2020, 2:37:06 PM EST, Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...> wrote:


I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


Re: Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO

Woody Schlom
 

Micheal,

 

Makes sense.  And I agree.  For a permanent installation, PEMPro would be sufficient.  And although I don’t know, it might have come bundled with your new mount.  And if not, a CCD Drift PA procedure is free and “should” only be necessary once or twice a year.  Here in So. Cal. we’ve got these things called earth quakes that can mess up permanent PA every now and then.

 

Have fun!

 

Woody

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Micheal Fields Jr via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 12:10 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO

 

@Woody

I am trying not to buy more stuff than I need.  An RAPAS is great but unless someone gives me one I have no intention of spending $500.00 on something I'll only use one time.   

For example I did not buy the hand controller.  The reason I am asking these questions is that I am trying to do this in my back yard just to play around and learn the software before I take it all out and put it up in my observatory 2 hours drive away.   Would be super handy to have a polemaster or RAPAS but it is not something I'll need more than once.


Re: Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO

Micheal Fields Jr
 

@Woody

I am trying not to buy more stuff than I need.  An RAPAS is great but unless someone gives me one I have no intention of spending $500.00 on something I'll only use one time.   

For example I did not buy the hand controller.  The reason I am asking these questions is that I am trying to do this in my back yard just to play around and learn the software before I take it all out and put it up in my observatory 2 hours drive away.   Would be super handy to have a polemaster or RAPAS but it is not something I'll need more than once.


Re: Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO

Micheal Fields Jr
 

No but there are still "good ideas" and those good ideas find themselves being used by everyone.

I very rarely use my mount's built in balance utility anyways so it isn't a big deal that there can't be one for the Mach2GTO.  I was just asking if I missed the feature hidden away somewhere.


Re: M42 from my future observatory site

Clement Elechi
 

Hello Robert,

Wonderful shot.  Just curious about the subs you threw out because of high humidity.  In what way were they so much worse than the others?

I have been eyeing the ASI12600, so I need to remain on the CFO's good side for a while yetEmoji

Clem

============================

My flickr gallery:


On Saturday, December 19, 2020, 2:37:06 PM EST, Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...> wrote:


I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


Re: M42 from my future observatory site

thefamily90 Phillips
 

Wowee!!!!!

Jim


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 2:36:51 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] M42 from my future observatory site
 
I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


M42 from my future observatory site

Robert Chozick
 

I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


Re: Can smog effect autoguiding?

Tom Blahovici
 

Oops.  Here you are:


Re: Can smog effect autoguiding?

 

Hi Tom

i need the guidelog, not the debug log thanks

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 9:13 AM Tom Blahovici <tom.va2fsq@...> wrote:
Hi Thanks for the offer.  You will some some of the shorter ones with the wild behavior.
Best regards, Tom



--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: Can smog effect autoguiding?

Tom Blahovici
 

#5 is particularly bad.

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