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Re: M42 from my future observatory site

Mark Ledbury
 

Absolutely stunning image - woo!  Thank you for sharing this!
Mark

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 11:37 AM Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


Re: Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

garyemc
 

Marj

If I have the older keypad with the 256k circuit board, can I send that in to AP and have the circuit board upgraded so I can take advantage of the new software??

gary


Re: Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO

Bill Long
 

Sharpcap works wonderfully. Why not just use that? I use that to Polar Align for unguided imaging all the time. The residual error I get reported in APCC Pro after a sky model run proves out how good it is. No need for a Polemaster and no need for a RAPAS.



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Micheal Fields Jr via groups.io <mpfjr@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 12:10 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO
 
@Woody

I am trying not to buy more stuff than I need.  An RAPAS is great but unless someone gives me one I have no intention of spending $500.00 on something I'll only use one time.   

For example I did not buy the hand controller.  The reason I am asking these questions is that I am trying to do this in my back yard just to play around and learn the software before I take it all out and put it up in my observatory 2 hours drive away.   Would be super handy to have a polemaster or RAPAS but it is not something I'll need more than once.


Re: Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO

Bill Long
 

AP mounts are incredibly easy to balance, easy to use, and easy to forget it is even there. 

Did you know: AP mounts can safely be used in the CW up position to image all night without the need for a Meridian flip? The more you know... 🙂 

Obviously, you would need to ensure clearance... but the gear supports it nicely both physically and in the software. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Micheal Fields Jr via groups.io <mpfjr@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 12:00 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO
 
No but there are still "good ideas" and those good ideas find themselves being used by everyone.

I very rarely use my mount's built in balance utility anyways so it isn't a big deal that there can't be one for the Mach2GTO.  I was just asking if I missed the feature hidden away somewhere.


Re: M42 from my future observatory site

Bill Long
 

Looks great!

I had nothing but problems with my 6200 mono, but the smaller chip seems to be doing well. 

The new 4/3 mono with two different effective pixel sizes is really interesting. I picked up the QHY 284M Pro to check it out.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Clement Elechi <celechi@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 11:51 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] M42 from my future observatory site
 
Hello Robert,

Wonderful shot.  Just curious about the subs you threw out because of high humidity.  In what way were they so much worse than the others?

I have been eyeing the ASI12600, so I need to remain on the CFO's good side for a while yetEmoji

Clem

============================

My flickr gallery:


On Saturday, December 19, 2020, 2:37:06 PM EST, Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...> wrote:


I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


Re: M42 from my future observatory site

Robert Chozick
 

Because of the high humidity there was a lot of moisture in the air. Must of the subs had high thin clouds making the brighter portions glow. I left in some that messed up the brightest stars.  If not it would have been only 10 subs. I threw out 20 subs. By the time I stopped the sky was full of moisture  The new land is high bortle 2 with a ranking of 21.99 on the light pollution map. 

Robert 


On Dec 19, 2020, at 1:51 PM, Clement Elechi <celechi@...> wrote:


Hello Robert,

Wonderful shot.  Just curious about the subs you threw out because of high humidity.  In what way were they so much worse than the others?

I have been eyeing the ASI12600, so I need to remain on the CFO's good side for a while yetEmoji

Clem

============================

My flickr gallery:


On Saturday, December 19, 2020, 2:37:06 PM EST, Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...> wrote:


I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


Re: Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO

Woody Schlom
 

Micheal,

 

Makes sense.  And I agree.  For a permanent installation, PEMPro would be sufficient.  And although I don’t know, it might have come bundled with your new mount.  And if not, a CCD Drift PA procedure is free and “should” only be necessary once or twice a year.  Here in So. Cal. we’ve got these things called earth quakes that can mess up permanent PA every now and then.

 

Have fun!

 

Woody

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Micheal Fields Jr via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 12:10 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO

 

@Woody

I am trying not to buy more stuff than I need.  An RAPAS is great but unless someone gives me one I have no intention of spending $500.00 on something I'll only use one time.   

For example I did not buy the hand controller.  The reason I am asking these questions is that I am trying to do this in my back yard just to play around and learn the software before I take it all out and put it up in my observatory 2 hours drive away.   Would be super handy to have a polemaster or RAPAS but it is not something I'll need more than once.


Re: Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO

Micheal Fields Jr
 

@Woody

I am trying not to buy more stuff than I need.  An RAPAS is great but unless someone gives me one I have no intention of spending $500.00 on something I'll only use one time.   

For example I did not buy the hand controller.  The reason I am asking these questions is that I am trying to do this in my back yard just to play around and learn the software before I take it all out and put it up in my observatory 2 hours drive away.   Would be super handy to have a polemaster or RAPAS but it is not something I'll need more than once.


Re: Balance helper by amp draw? #Mach2GTO

Micheal Fields Jr
 

No but there are still "good ideas" and those good ideas find themselves being used by everyone.

I very rarely use my mount's built in balance utility anyways so it isn't a big deal that there can't be one for the Mach2GTO.  I was just asking if I missed the feature hidden away somewhere.


Re: M42 from my future observatory site

Clement Elechi
 

Hello Robert,

Wonderful shot.  Just curious about the subs you threw out because of high humidity.  In what way were they so much worse than the others?

I have been eyeing the ASI12600, so I need to remain on the CFO's good side for a while yetEmoji

Clem

============================

My flickr gallery:


On Saturday, December 19, 2020, 2:37:06 PM EST, Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...> wrote:


I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


Re: M42 from my future observatory site

thefamily90 Phillips
 

Wowee!!!!!

Jim


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 2:36:51 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] M42 from my future observatory site
 
I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


M42 from my future observatory site

Robert Chozick
 

I am buying some property in West Texas and this is my first light.  I have not purchased yet and just went out there with my portable setup one night.  I lost most of my subs as the humidity was 90 percent but I managed to use about  an hours worth.  I did get shorter exposures for the various parts of the nebula.  I will redo this later with 4 or 5 hours of exposure.  I really love my 16 bit CMOS ASI2600.  It is a great camera.


Robert


Re: Can smog effect autoguiding?

Tom Blahovici
 

Oops.  Here you are:


Re: Can smog effect autoguiding?

 

Hi Tom

i need the guidelog, not the debug log thanks

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 9:13 AM Tom Blahovici <tom.va2fsq@...> wrote:
Hi Thanks for the offer.  You will some some of the shorter ones with the wild behavior.
Best regards, Tom



--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: Can smog effect autoguiding?

Tom Blahovici
 

#5 is particularly bad.


Re: Can smog effect autoguiding?

Tom Blahovici
 

Hi Thanks for the offer.  You will some some of the shorter ones with the wild behavior.
Best regards, Tom


Re: Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

Geert
 

Great, thanks Stacey.  Serial to serial is what I have, I’ll do the upgrade later this week then.

 

Geert

 

Van: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Namens Stacey Mills
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Aan: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [ap-gto] Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

 

I used straight serial to serial, not the USB->Serial converter.


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Re: Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

Stacey Mills
 

I used straight serial to serial, not the USB->Serial converter.


Re: AP1200 - Starting from Park5

Horia
 

Thank you George.

 

This is a roll-away shed and it has been designed such that we must use Park 5. Coming from another mount not having the issue, we were not aware of this problem. We will have to take care of it in the automation software. Will see …

 

Regards,

Horia

 

 

Von: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Im Auftrag von George
Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Dezember 2020 23:17
An: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [ap-gto] AP1200 - Starting from Park5

 

Horia,

 

To avoid the downward dip, it is also possible to use Park 4.    I assume that your facility will allow it.

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Horia
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 3:39 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP1200 - Starting from Park5

 

George,

 

yes this is a solution.

 

But this is supposed to be an automated system, starting in the evening and parking in the morning. Having to insert a GoTo Park 3 in front of the start-up procedure – this not being an ASCOM command – is not an elegant option. We might insert Polaris as a dummy target for the evening preparation but this is a kludge.

 

I would expect to have some option like „intelligen slew“ inside the driver to prevent this to happen.

 

Would APCC take care of this?

 

Kind regards,

Horia

 

 

 

Von: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Im Auftrag von George
Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Dezember 2020 22:12
An: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [ap-gto] AP1200 - Starting from Park5

 

Horia,

 

Unpark the mount from your Park 5 and go to Park 3.    From there you can slew around.    By doing the above you’ll avoid a downward dip.

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Horia
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 2:43 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] AP1200 - Starting from Park5

 

We have an AP-1200 mount carrying a 16“ f/5 Newton. The scope must be parked at Park5. As the system is installed at 50° North, the declination of the Park5 is 40°.

 

 

 

 

Now, every time the mount does a GoTo from the park position to a target on the East side and having a declination lower than 40° (and a lot of them targets are there) both axes start slewing at the same time. The net result is that the telescope first makes a sharp nosedive and only later starts pointing back to the stars. This is between bad (the mirror moves in the cell) and awfully bad (the scope makes a hard landing).

 

 

The Mount has a CP3 controller. For the firmware version I would have to check (the system is remote). The ASCOM driver is at 5.30.10 level. No APCC.

 

Is there an option to tell the mount to delay the DEC axis until it is safe to start it? Is this function only available in APCC? Would an upgrade to CP4 help?

 

Kind Regards,

Horia

 


Re: Version P02-08 now available for GTOCP4 and GTOCP5 control boxes

Geert
 

Stacey, so you did not use a USB/serial connector but straight serial to serial ports?

Geert

Op vr 18 dec. 2020 23:26 schreef Stacey Mills <w4sm@...>:

Thanks! I did it through the COM port and it was quick and painless!!!

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