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Re: Multiple APCC Installations #APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Marty,

Question: is this going to cause a problem? Can I install one copy on each computer? Will I need to register a different
email address, or can the same email address have multiple licenses.
Having more than one license with the same email address will not be a problem. Each license is unique, so if you wish, you can use the same email address for both.

-Ray Gralak
Author of PEMPro
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of mjb87 via groups.io
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 6:02 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Multiple APCC Installations #APCC

[Edited Message Follows]

A quick question...

I operate an 1100GTO and years ago purchased APCC Pro, though I currently do not have it installed. I may very well
decide to install it in the future for that mount on a new computer dedicated to that mount. That new computer never
had APCC installed.

My Mach2GTO will (hopefully) arrive in a week or two and will come with another APCC Pro license. I plan to install it
on the existing computer that I will now use dedicated to this new mount. The existing computer previously had a copy
of APCC Pro on it but doesn't now.

So I have purchased two copies of APCC Pro and have two computers each dedicated to a mount. I have the same
email address registered in each case.

Question: is this going to cause a problem? Can I install one copy on each computer? Will I need to register a different
email address, or can the same email address have multiple licenses.



Thanks.

Marty


Re: Multi-star guiding

Roland Christen
 

I don't choose the stars when doing multi-star guiding. maxim looks at the entire frame and guides on all the bright stars in the frame. Other than that, I really don't know what their criteria are for which stars to guide on.

The only benefit that I see is during poor seeing when a single guide star is jumping around but an average of multiple stars seems to lead to a smoother guide graph. During good seeing I can't see any difference.

Roland



-----Original Message-----
From: M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Dec 11, 2020 7:31 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Multi-star guiding

Hi Roland

This looks interesting. When you do the multi-star guiding does MaxIm allow you to select which stars to guide on ?

I am trying to get a grasp on what benefits can be gained by multi-star guiding. I don't think that you can compensate for field rotation with multi star guiding, but Terri's comment about averaging out the seeing makes sense.

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Multiple APCC Installations #APCC

mjb87@...
 
Edited

A quick question...

I operate an 1100GTO and years ago purchased APCC Pro, though I currently do not have it installed. I may very well decide to install it in the future for that mount on a new computer dedicated to that mount. That new computer never had APCC installed.

My Mach2GTO will (hopefully) arrive in a week or two and will come with another APCC Pro license. I plan to install it on the existing computer that I will now use dedicated to this new mount. The existing computer previously had a copy of APCC Pro on it but doesn't now.

So I have purchased two copies of APCC Pro and have two computers each dedicated to a mount. I have the same email address registered in each case.

Question: is this going to cause a problem? Can I install one copy on each computer? Will I need to register a different email address, or can the same email address have multiple licenses.

Thanks.

Marty


Re: [ap-ug] Snapshots - Sugar Sprinkle Galaxy

James Stone
 

Spectacular image. Really captures the essence of this object.

 

From: <main@ap-ug.groups.io> on behalf of "Roland Christen via groups.io" <chris1011@...>
Reply-To: "main@ap-ug.groups.io" <main@ap-ug.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 9:13 PM
To: "main@ap-gto.groups.io" <main@ap-gto.groups.io>, "main@ap-ug.groups.io" <main@ap-ug.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-ug] Snapshots - Sugar Sprinkle Galaxy

 

Hello Astronuts,

 

Had a couple of clear nights with reasonable seeing and decided to shoot a couple of objects that are well placed right now. First one is M33, which resembles sugar sprinkles tossed on black velvet.

 

https://www.astrobin.com/full/bovv9h/0/?nc=Uncarollo

 

I've been working with the Mach2 mount now for almost 2 years and I cannot be more pleased with the way it has worked out as a premium product. It really is a fun mount to work with, starts right up every clear night, points quite accurately even without modeling, tracks beautifully down to the sub-arc second level with nary a burp or hiccup. I have done unguided and guided imaging, both of which are a snap. The Lodestar guider is essentially foolproof, very sensitive in the off-axis guider on the QSI camera. MaximDL6Pro has a few quirks that I haven't figured out yet, but as far as imaging and guiding, it is unbeatable.

 

Bottom line - I would rate the Mach2 as the perfect beginner mount for the simple reason that it will do exactly what you want and you won't have to mess around with it trying to hyper-tune it, or adjust it. Just point and shoot and it will carry you down that 6 lane Milky way like a turbo-charged Veyron Super Sport.

 

Rolando


Re: Multi-star guiding

M Hambrick
 

Hi Roland

This looks interesting. When you do the multi-star guiding does MaxIm allow you to select which stars to guide on ?

I am trying to get a grasp on what benefits can be gained by multi-star guiding. I don't think that you can compensate for field rotation with multi star guiding, but Terri's comment about averaging out the seeing makes sense.


Re: Snapshots - Sugar Sprinkle Galaxy

Roland Christen
 

Heart Eyes



-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Jacobsen <deanjacobsen@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 9:06 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Snapshots - Sugar Sprinkle Galaxy

The Mach2 is definitely something you can be very proud of.

I love the one you guys made for me.
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin Image Gallery - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 
Amateur Radio Call Sign - W6DBJ

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Snapshots - Sugar Sprinkle Galaxy

Xentex
 

Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow creeps in this petty pace.

That's when UPS says I'm getting mine.


Re: [ap-ug] [ap-gto] Snapshots - Spider Man Spider Man ...

KHursh
 

I guess not all of us were watching cartoons in the 60s/70s


Re: [ap-ug] [ap-gto] Snapshots - Spider Man Spider Man ...

Karen Christen
 

… Does whatever a spider can…  🙄  😆

 

The Kid

 

From: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roland Christen via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 9:03 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io; main@ap-ug.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] [ap-gto] Snapshots - Spider Man Spider Man ...

 

.. Can do anything a spider can.  Notes

Smile

During the same night I captured this faint H-a region in Auriga:

 

 

Rolando

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>; main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 8:13 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Snapshots - Sugar Sprinkle Galaxy

Hello Astronuts,

 

Had a couple of clear nights with reasonable seeing and decided to shoot a couple of objects that are well placed right now. First one is M33, which resembles sugar sprinkles tossed on black velvet.

 

 

I've been working with the Mach2 mount now for almost 2 years and I cannot be more pleased with the way it has worked out as a premium product. It really is a fun mount to work with, starts right up every clear night, points quite accurately even without modeling, tracks beautifully down to the sub-arc second level with nary a burp or hiccup. I have done unguided and guided imaging, both of which are a snap. The Lodestar guider is essentially foolproof, very sensitive in the off-axis guider on the QSI camera. MaximDL6Pro has a few quirks that I haven't figured out yet, but as far as imaging and guiding, it is unbeatable.

 

Bottom line - I would rate the Mach2 as the perfect beginner mount for the simple reason that it will do exactly what you want and you won't have to mess around with it trying to hyper-tune it, or adjust it. Just point and shoot and it will carry you down that 6 lane Milky way like a turbo-charged Veyron Super Sport.

 

Rolando


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


--
Karen Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Snapshots - Sugar Sprinkle Galaxy

Dean Jacobsen
 

The Mach2 is definitely something you can be very proud of.

I love the one you guys made for me.
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin Image Gallery - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 
Amateur Radio Call Sign - W6DBJ


Re: Snapshots - Spider Man Spider Man ...

Roland Christen
 

.. Can do anything a spider can.  Notes
Smile
During the same night I captured this faint H-a region in Auriga:

https://www.astrobin.com/full/xdl8z0/0/

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>; main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 8:13 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Snapshots - Sugar Sprinkle Galaxy

Hello Astronuts,

Had a couple of clear nights with reasonable seeing and decided to shoot a couple of objects that are well placed right now. First one is M33, which resembles sugar sprinkles tossed on black velvet.

https://www.astrobin.com/full/bovv9h/0/?nc=Uncarollo

I've been working with the Mach2 mount now for almost 2 years and I cannot be more pleased with the way it has worked out as a premium product. It really is a fun mount to work with, starts right up every clear night, points quite accurately even without modeling, tracks beautifully down to the sub-arc second level with nary a burp or hiccup. I have done unguided and guided imaging, both of which are a snap. The Lodestar guider is essentially foolproof, very sensitive in the off-axis guider on the QSI camera. MaximDL6Pro has a few quirks that I haven't figured out yet, but as far as imaging and guiding, it is unbeatable.

Bottom line - I would rate the Mach2 as the perfect beginner mount for the simple reason that it will do exactly what you want and you won't have to mess around with it trying to hyper-tune it, or adjust it. Just point and shoot and it will carry you down that 6 lane Milky way like a turbo-charged Veyron Super Sport.

Rolando

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: [ap-ug] Snapshots - Sugar Sprinkle Galaxy

thefamily90 Phillips
 

Simply amazing...

JimP


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Pete Lardizabal <p14@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 9:21:25 PM
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>
Cc: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] [ap-ug] Snapshots - Sugar Sprinkle Galaxy
 

Spectacular results Roland!

A dream system to be sure. 

😎

Pete



On Dec 10, 2020, at 9:13 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Hello Astronuts,

Had a couple of clear nights with reasonable seeing and decided to shoot a couple of objects that are well placed right now. First one is M33, which resembles sugar sprinkles tossed on black velvet.

https://www.astrobin.com/full/bovv9h/0/?nc=Uncarollo

I've been working with the Mach2 mount now for almost 2 years and I cannot be more pleased with the way it has worked out as a premium product. It really is a fun mount to work with, starts right up every clear night, points quite accurately even without modeling, tracks beautifully down to the sub-arc second level with nary a burp or hiccup. I have done unguided and guided imaging, both of which are a snap. The Lodestar guider is essentially foolproof, very sensitive in the off-axis guider on the QSI camera. MaximDL6Pro has a few quirks that I haven't figured out yet, but as far as imaging and guiding, it is unbeatable.

Bottom line - I would rate the Mach2 as the perfect beginner mount for the simple reason that it will do exactly what you want and you won't have to mess around with it trying to hyper-tune it, or adjust it. Just point and shoot and it will carry you down that 6 lane Milky way like a turbo-charged Veyron Super Sport.

Rolando


Re: [ap-ug] Snapshots - Sugar Sprinkle Galaxy

Pete Lardizabal
 


Spectacular results Roland!

A dream system to be sure. 

😎

Pete



On Dec 10, 2020, at 9:13 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


Hello Astronuts,

Had a couple of clear nights with reasonable seeing and decided to shoot a couple of objects that are well placed right now. First one is M33, which resembles sugar sprinkles tossed on black velvet.

https://www.astrobin.com/full/bovv9h/0/?nc=Uncarollo

I've been working with the Mach2 mount now for almost 2 years and I cannot be more pleased with the way it has worked out as a premium product. It really is a fun mount to work with, starts right up every clear night, points quite accurately even without modeling, tracks beautifully down to the sub-arc second level with nary a burp or hiccup. I have done unguided and guided imaging, both of which are a snap. The Lodestar guider is essentially foolproof, very sensitive in the off-axis guider on the QSI camera. MaximDL6Pro has a few quirks that I haven't figured out yet, but as far as imaging and guiding, it is unbeatable.

Bottom line - I would rate the Mach2 as the perfect beginner mount for the simple reason that it will do exactly what you want and you won't have to mess around with it trying to hyper-tune it, or adjust it. Just point and shoot and it will carry you down that 6 lane Milky way like a turbo-charged Veyron Super Sport.

Rolando


Snapshots - Sugar Sprinkle Galaxy

Roland Christen
 

Hello Astronuts,

Had a couple of clear nights with reasonable seeing and decided to shoot a couple of objects that are well placed right now. First one is M33, which resembles sugar sprinkles tossed on black velvet.

https://www.astrobin.com/full/bovv9h/0/?nc=Uncarollo

I've been working with the Mach2 mount now for almost 2 years and I cannot be more pleased with the way it has worked out as a premium product. It really is a fun mount to work with, starts right up every clear night, points quite accurately even without modeling, tracks beautifully down to the sub-arc second level with nary a burp or hiccup. I have done unguided and guided imaging, both of which are a snap. The Lodestar guider is essentially foolproof, very sensitive in the off-axis guider on the QSI camera. MaximDL6Pro has a few quirks that I haven't figured out yet, but as far as imaging and guiding, it is unbeatable.

Bottom line - I would rate the Mach2 as the perfect beginner mount for the simple reason that it will do exactly what you want and you won't have to mess around with it trying to hyper-tune it, or adjust it. Just point and shoot and it will carry you down that 6 lane Milky way like a turbo-charged Veyron Super Sport.

Rolando

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Sky Safari - iphone - GTO

 

Update, of sorts.  We know they are working on it, but have no commitment regarding release. We’ll let you know when we have more news and hope to be testing a version soon. Stay tuned.

 

Clear Skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics

11250 Forest Hills Road

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marj Christen
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 8:35 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Sky Safari - iphone - GTO

 

I’ll have to check with our tech staff. I’m not sure.

 

Clear Skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics

11250 Forest Hills Road

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of wxman4@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 7:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Sky Safari - iphone - GTO

 

Mary, that is excellent news! Do you have any rough time table for when it will at least work correctly with the Mach2? Thank you for such a quick reply.


Re: Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

 

David, 


Please let me help you. Send me an email at liam@... .


Liam

Astro-Physics


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of davidcfinch9 via groups.io <DF121819@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 5:06 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI
 

Hello Rick,

When I click “connect” (your step 3), I get a dialog box that says enter network security key. That’s where I get stuck.

David

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 5:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

 

Hi David,

I’m somewhat new to this forum (a lurker) but may be able to help.  I just upgraded

the software for my GTOCP5 and checked all communication functionality (serial, ethernet, wifi)

both with the laptop (Windows 10) and through APCC-pro.  Here’s what worked for me for the wifi.

  1. Power up laptop and GTOCP5

  2. On my laptop, double click on the wireless icon.

     This brings up the available networks.  I find one network GTOCP5_NET_xx (xx is a number)

  3. I then select the GTOCP5_NET_xx  I click “connect” which connects to the GTOCP5_NET_xx network

     with the statement “No Internet, secured”

     NB:  I do not find the mount until I perform the 3rd step.

  4. I can then run the application FindMounts_VFM-01-03 (comes with the new software from the AP site).

     The application returns the above network and the IP address for GTOCP5 via wireless (note that the

     wireless IP address is different than the ethernet IP address).

  5. Run APCC-pro, type in the above wireless IP address, connect the mount and I’m off to the races.

Hope this helps,

Rick

 



On Dec 10, 2020, at 15:15, davidcfinch9 via groups.io <DF121819@...> wrote:

 

I hate to say it, but this is all "as clear as mud."

What do you mean when you say, "When you connect the GTOCP5 to a network"? Does that mean when I plug the CP5 into a power supply, with no ethernet connection? Everything works great when I am interacting with the ethernet. What factory default IP address are you referring to if I am not plugged into a network? I KNOW my GTOCP5 IP address, but when I put that in my browser, nothing works. None of the suggested URLs worked. Every one of the pings returned a "no known device" message. It is interesting that the APCC "auto-discovery" (when connected via ethernet) shows only one line that starts out with GTOCP4 (yes-four), then my known ip address and ends with GTOCP5_Net_85. When I plug that into the browser, I come up with some German text.

If there is no simple solution to all this I will just continue to use ethernet. It works great, but i was hoping to eliminate a cable connection.

Regards,

David

-----Original Message-----
From:
michaeljhanson@...
To:
main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

Hi David,

When you connect the GTOCP5 to a network, your router assigns the IP address.  The factory default IP address will be active if you are not plugged into a network.  From the browser URL, just try the host name "GTOCP5_85", or "GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work try "
http://GTOCP5_85"  or "http://GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work, open a command (DOS) window and ping to it, "ping GTOCP5_85" or "ping GTOCP5-85" and see if that will locate it.  If all else fails, there are a couple utilities available at https://astro-physics.info/index.htm?tech_support/tech_support.  You can use FindMounts (auto-discovery on the network), or you can run "WiFi Poll for GTOCP4 or GTOCP5 for Ethernet" to query for the IP address over serial.  If you use APCC, APCC also has auto-discovery.

Most DHCP servers in routers try to keep assigning the same IP address to the same equipment, so you should not need to discover the IP address each time.  If you still have trouble, please contact us directly, we'd be happy to help.  The advantage of putting the equipment on your network is that you don't need to give up your device/PC internet connectivity to interact with the mount.

Once you can interact with the GTOCP5 with serial, USB, or Ethernet, it will be easier to help you with the WiFi.



Regards,


Mike Hanson

 

Dr. Richard J. Tesarek
Sr. Scientist
Particle Physics Division, Fermilab
Office:  BEG Bridge

Phone:   630.840.8609
Email:   tesarek@...

 


Re: Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

davidcfinch9
 

Hello Rick,

When I click “connect” (your step 3), I get a dialog box that says enter network security key. That’s where I get stuck.

David

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 5:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

 

Hi David,

I’m somewhat new to this forum (a lurker) but may be able to help.  I just upgraded

the software for my GTOCP5 and checked all communication functionality (serial, ethernet, wifi)

both with the laptop (Windows 10) and through APCC-pro.  Here’s what worked for me for the wifi.

  1. Power up laptop and GTOCP5

  2. On my laptop, double click on the wireless icon.

     This brings up the available networks.  I find one network GTOCP5_NET_xx (xx is a number)

  3. I then select the GTOCP5_NET_xx  I click “connect” which connects to the GTOCP5_NET_xx network

     with the statement “No Internet, secured”

     NB:  I do not find the mount until I perform the 3rd step.

  4. I can then run the application FindMounts_VFM-01-03 (comes with the new software from the AP site).

     The application returns the above network and the IP address for GTOCP5 via wireless (note that the

     wireless IP address is different than the ethernet IP address).

  5. Run APCC-pro, type in the above wireless IP address, connect the mount and I’m off to the races.

Hope this helps,

Rick

 



On Dec 10, 2020, at 15:15, davidcfinch9 via groups.io <DF121819@...> wrote:

 

I hate to say it, but this is all "as clear as mud."

What do you mean when you say, "When you connect the GTOCP5 to a network"? Does that mean when I plug the CP5 into a power supply, with no ethernet connection? Everything works great when I am interacting with the ethernet. What factory default IP address are you referring to if I am not plugged into a network? I KNOW my GTOCP5 IP address, but when I put that in my browser, nothing works. None of the suggested URLs worked. Every one of the pings returned a "no known device" message. It is interesting that the APCC "auto-discovery" (when connected via ethernet) shows only one line that starts out with GTOCP4 (yes-four), then my known ip address and ends with GTOCP5_Net_85. When I plug that into the browser, I come up with some German text.

If there is no simple solution to all this I will just continue to use ethernet. It works great, but i was hoping to eliminate a cable connection.

Regards,

David

-----Original Message-----
From:
michaeljhanson@...
To:
main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

Hi David,

When you connect the GTOCP5 to a network, your router assigns the IP address.  The factory default IP address will be active if you are not plugged into a network.  From the browser URL, just try the host name "GTOCP5_85", or "GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work try "
http://GTOCP5_85"  or "http://GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work, open a command (DOS) window and ping to it, "ping GTOCP5_85" or "ping GTOCP5-85" and see if that will locate it.  If all else fails, there are a couple utilities available at https://astro-physics.info/index.htm?tech_support/tech_support.  You can use FindMounts (auto-discovery on the network), or you can run "WiFi Poll for GTOCP4 or GTOCP5 for Ethernet" to query for the IP address over serial.  If you use APCC, APCC also has auto-discovery.

Most DHCP servers in routers try to keep assigning the same IP address to the same equipment, so you should not need to discover the IP address each time.  If you still have trouble, please contact us directly, we'd be happy to help.  The advantage of putting the equipment on your network is that you don't need to give up your device/PC internet connectivity to interact with the mount.

Once you can interact with the GTOCP5 with serial, USB, or Ethernet, it will be easier to help you with the WiFi.



Regards,


Mike Hanson

 

Dr. Richard J. Tesarek
Sr. Scientist
Particle Physics Division, Fermilab
Office:  BEG Bridge

Phone:   630.840.8609
Email:   tesarek@...

 


Re: Virtual Port change in #APPC pro #appc

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Todd,

In the future, if there ever does become a conflict with other equipment, with those low port numbers that apcc is
currently using, then what would the best practice be to assign higher number virtual ports that would be less likely to
APCC allocates virtual ports at runtime, not at system boot. Devices like a USB to Serial converters usually allocate their virtual COM port at system startup, well before APCC runs. APCC will also never use an existing (true) serial port as a virtual port.

When you run APCC, if it finds a virtual port in use that was previously configured for APCC to use, APCC will choose a different virtual port and reconfigure the driver to use that port. So there should not be a problem if you have all of your devices that use COM ports allocated before starting APCC.

-Ray Gralak
Author of PEMPro
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cygnus Hunter
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:12 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Virtual Port change in #APPC pro

Ray,
Thank you for that. Sorry for the delayed response as I was offline for a couple of days.

In the future, if there ever does become a conflict with other equipment, with those low port numbers that apcc is
currently using, then what would the best practice be to assign higher number virtual ports that would be less likely to
conflict? I guess that I’d like to know a path to follow if this happens, and it is on a perfect night at midnight, which is
when Murphy usually visits my observatory. It could save a wasted night. Only so many each year as you well
know...lol

thank you!

Todd


Re: Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

Richard
 

Hi David,
I’m somewhat new to this forum (a lurker) but may be able to help.  I just upgraded
the software for my GTOCP5 and checked all communication functionality (serial, ethernet, wifi)
both with the laptop (Windows 10) and through APCC-pro.  Here’s what worked for me for the wifi.
  1. Power up laptop and GTOCP5
  2. On my laptop, double click on the wireless icon.
     This brings up the available networks.  I find one network GTOCP5_NET_xx (xx is a number)
  3. I then select the GTOCP5_NET_xx  I click “connect” which connects to the GTOCP5_NET_xx network
     with the statement “No Internet, secured”
     NB:  I do not find the mount until I perform the 3rd step.
  4. I can then run the application FindMounts_VFM-01-03 (comes with the new software from the AP site).
     The application returns the above network and the IP address for GTOCP5 via wireless (note that the
     wireless IP address is different than the ethernet IP address).
  5. Run APCC-pro, type in the above wireless IP address, connect the mount and I’m off to the races.
Hope this helps,
Rick


On Dec 10, 2020, at 15:15, davidcfinch9 via groups.io <DF121819@...> wrote:

I hate to say it, but this is all "as clear as mud."
What do you mean when you say, "When you connect the GTOCP5 to a network"? Does that mean when I plug the CP5 into a power supply, with no ethernet connection? Everything works great when I am interacting with the ethernet. What factory default IP address are you referring to if I am not plugged into a network? I KNOW my GTOCP5 IP address, but when I put that in my browser, nothing works. None of the suggested URLs worked. Every one of the pings returned a "no known device" message. It is interesting that the APCC "auto-discovery" (when connected via ethernet) shows only one line that starts out with GTOCP4 (yes-four), then my known ip address and ends with GTOCP5_Net_85. When I plug that into the browser, I come up with some German text.
If there is no simple solution to all this I will just continue to use ethernet. It works great, but i was hoping to eliminate a cable connection.
Regards,
David


-----Original Message-----
From: michaeljhanson@...
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

Hi David,

When you connect the GTOCP5 to a network, your router assigns the IP address.  The factory default IP address will be active if you are not plugged into a network.  From the browser URL, just try the host name "GTOCP5_85", or "GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work try "http://GTOCP5_85"  or "http://GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work, open a command (DOS) window and ping to it, "ping GTOCP5_85" or "ping GTOCP5-85" and see if that will locate it.  If all else fails, there are a couple utilities available at https://astro-physics.info/index.htm?tech_support/tech_support.  You can use FindMounts (auto-discovery on the network), or you can run "WiFi Poll for GTOCP4 or GTOCP5 for Ethernet" to query for the IP address over serial.  If you use APCC, APCC also has auto-discovery.

Most DHCP servers in routers try to keep assigning the same IP address to the same equipment, so you should not need to discover the IP address each time.  If you still have trouble, please contact us directly, we'd be happy to help.  The advantage of putting the equipment on your network is that you don't need to give up your device/PC internet connectivity to interact with the mount.

Once you can interact with the GTOCP5 with serial, USB, or Ethernet, it will be easier to help you with the WiFi.


Regards,

Mike Hanson

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Particle Physics Division, Fermilab
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Re: Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

 

David,

 

I can give you a call and we can work this out. I think I know what your issue is, and I can walk you through setting up your system. Email me at liam@....

 

Liam

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of davidcfinch9 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

 

Thank you Rolando!

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roland Christen via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 4:34 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

 

Mike tends to talk computerese. I don't understand him a lot of the time either. I'll see if he can clear it up for you.

 

Rolando

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: davidcfinch9 via groups.io <DF121819@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

I hate to say it, but this is all "as clear as mud."

What do you mean when you say, "When you connect the GTOCP5 to a network"? Does that mean when I plug the CP5 into a power supply, with no ethernet connection? Everything works great when I am interacting with the ethernet. What factory default IP address are you referring to if I am not plugged into a network? I KNOW my GTOCP5 IP address, but when I put that in my browser, nothing works. None of the suggested URLs worked. Every one of the pings returned a "no known device" message. It is interesting that the APCC "auto-discovery" (when connected via ethernet) shows only one line that starts out with GTOCP4 (yes-four), then my known ip address and ends with GTOCP5_Net_85. When I plug that into the browser, I come up with some German text.

If there is no simple solution to all this I will just continue to use ethernet. It works great, but i was hoping to eliminate a cable connection.

Regards,

David

-----Original Message-----
From: michaeljhanson@...
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

Hi David,

When you connect the GTOCP5 to a network, your router assigns the IP address.  The factory default IP address will be active if you are not plugged into a network.  From the browser URL, just try the host name "GTOCP5_85", or "GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work try "http://GTOCP5_85"  or "http://GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work, open a command (DOS) window and ping to it, "ping GTOCP5_85" or "ping GTOCP5-85" and see if that will locate it.  If all else fails, there are a couple utilities available at https://astro-physics.info/index.htm?tech_support/tech_support.  You can use FindMounts (auto-discovery on the network), or you can run "WiFi Poll for GTOCP4 or GTOCP5 for Ethernet" to query for the IP address over serial.  If you use APCC, APCC also has auto-discovery.

Most DHCP servers in routers try to keep assigning the same IP address to the same equipment, so you should not need to discover the IP address each time.  If you still have trouble, please contact us directly, we'd be happy to help.  The advantage of putting the equipment on your network is that you don't need to give up your device/PC internet connectivity to interact with the mount.

Once you can interact with the GTOCP5 with serial, USB, or Ethernet, it will be easier to help you with the WiFi.



Regards,


Mike Hanson


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