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Re: Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

davidcfinch9
 

Thank you Rolando!

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roland Christen via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 4:34 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

 

Mike tends to talk computerese. I don't understand him a lot of the time either. I'll see if he can clear it up for you.

 

Rolando

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: davidcfinch9 via groups.io <DF121819@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

I hate to say it, but this is all "as clear as mud."

What do you mean when you say, "When you connect the GTOCP5 to a network"? Does that mean when I plug the CP5 into a power supply, with no ethernet connection? Everything works great when I am interacting with the ethernet. What factory default IP address are you referring to if I am not plugged into a network? I KNOW my GTOCP5 IP address, but when I put that in my browser, nothing works. None of the suggested URLs worked. Every one of the pings returned a "no known device" message. It is interesting that the APCC "auto-discovery" (when connected via ethernet) shows only one line that starts out with GTOCP4 (yes-four), then my known ip address and ends with GTOCP5_Net_85. When I plug that into the browser, I come up with some German text.

If there is no simple solution to all this I will just continue to use ethernet. It works great, but i was hoping to eliminate a cable connection.

Regards,

David

-----Original Message-----
From: michaeljhanson@...
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

Hi David,

When you connect the GTOCP5 to a network, your router assigns the IP address.  The factory default IP address will be active if you are not plugged into a network.  From the browser URL, just try the host name "GTOCP5_85", or "GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work try "http://GTOCP5_85"  or "http://GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work, open a command (DOS) window and ping to it, "ping GTOCP5_85" or "ping GTOCP5-85" and see if that will locate it.  If all else fails, there are a couple utilities available at https://astro-physics.info/index.htm?tech_support/tech_support.  You can use FindMounts (auto-discovery on the network), or you can run "WiFi Poll for GTOCP4 or GTOCP5 for Ethernet" to query for the IP address over serial.  If you use APCC, APCC also has auto-discovery.

Most DHCP servers in routers try to keep assigning the same IP address to the same equipment, so you should not need to discover the IP address each time.  If you still have trouble, please contact us directly, we'd be happy to help.  The advantage of putting the equipment on your network is that you don't need to give up your device/PC internet connectivity to interact with the mount.

Once you can interact with the GTOCP5 with serial, USB, or Ethernet, it will be easier to help you with the WiFi.



Regards,


Mike Hanson


--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

Roland Christen
 

Mike tends to talk computerese. I don't understand him a lot of the time either. I'll see if he can clear it up for you.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: davidcfinch9 via groups.io <DF121819@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

I hate to say it, but this is all "as clear as mud."
What do you mean when you say, "When you connect the GTOCP5 to a network"? Does that mean when I plug the CP5 into a power supply, with no ethernet connection? Everything works great when I am interacting with the ethernet. What factory default IP address are you referring to if I am not plugged into a network? I KNOW my GTOCP5 IP address, but when I put that in my browser, nothing works. None of the suggested URLs worked. Every one of the pings returned a "no known device" message. It is interesting that the APCC "auto-discovery" (when connected via ethernet) shows only one line that starts out with GTOCP4 (yes-four), then my known ip address and ends with GTOCP5_Net_85. When I plug that into the browser, I come up with some German text.
If there is no simple solution to all this I will just continue to use ethernet. It works great, but i was hoping to eliminate a cable connection.
Regards,
David


-----Original Message-----
From: michaeljhanson@...
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

Hi David,

When you connect the GTOCP5 to a network, your router assigns the IP address.  The factory default IP address will be active if you are not plugged into a network.  From the browser URL, just try the host name "GTOCP5_85", or "GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work try "http://GTOCP5_85"  or "http://GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work, open a command (DOS) window and ping to it, "ping GTOCP5_85" or "ping GTOCP5-85" and see if that will locate it.  If all else fails, there are a couple utilities available at https://astro-physics.info/index.htm?tech_support/tech_support.  You can use FindMounts (auto-discovery on the network), or you can run "WiFi Poll for GTOCP4 or GTOCP5 for Ethernet" to query for the IP address over serial.  If you use APCC, APCC also has auto-discovery.

Most DHCP servers in routers try to keep assigning the same IP address to the same equipment, so you should not need to discover the IP address each time.  If you still have trouble, please contact us directly, we'd be happy to help.  The advantage of putting the equipment on your network is that you don't need to give up your device/PC internet connectivity to interact with the mount.

Once you can interact with the GTOCP5 with serial, USB, or Ethernet, it will be easier to help you with the WiFi.


Regards,

Mike Hanson

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: 130 EDF Starfire Field Flatteners

Roland Christen
 

Sorry, but all the older 2.7" focuser versions have the Pentax attachment.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Ram <ramviswanathan@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 130 EDF Starfire Field Flatteners

I have a 67PF562 field flattener on my 130 EDF Starfire. I just read that this field flattener isn't ideal for this scope. 
I would definitely be interested in one that was optimized for this scope.
It would be nice to have a new one without the clunky Pentax 67 outer bayonet mount. 

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

davidcfinch9
 

I hate to say it, but this is all "as clear as mud."
What do you mean when you say, "When you connect the GTOCP5 to a network"? Does that mean when I plug the CP5 into a power supply, with no ethernet connection? Everything works great when I am interacting with the ethernet. What factory default IP address are you referring to if I am not plugged into a network? I KNOW my GTOCP5 IP address, but when I put that in my browser, nothing works. None of the suggested URLs worked. Every one of the pings returned a "no known device" message. It is interesting that the APCC "auto-discovery" (when connected via ethernet) shows only one line that starts out with GTOCP4 (yes-four), then my known ip address and ends with GTOCP5_Net_85. When I plug that into the browser, I come up with some German text.
If there is no simple solution to all this I will just continue to use ethernet. It works great, but i was hoping to eliminate a cable connection.
Regards,
David


-----Original Message-----
From: michaeljhanson@...
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2020 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

Hi David,

When you connect the GTOCP5 to a network, your router assigns the IP address.  The factory default IP address will be active if you are not plugged into a network.  From the browser URL, just try the host name "GTOCP5_85", or "GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work try "http://GTOCP5_85"  or "http://GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work, open a command (DOS) window and ping to it, "ping GTOCP5_85" or "ping GTOCP5-85" and see if that will locate it.  If all else fails, there are a couple utilities available at https://astro-physics.info/index.htm?tech_support/tech_support.  You can use FindMounts (auto-discovery on the network), or you can run "WiFi Poll for GTOCP4 or GTOCP5 for Ethernet" to query for the IP address over serial.  If you use APCC, APCC also has auto-discovery.

Most DHCP servers in routers try to keep assigning the same IP address to the same equipment, so you should not need to discover the IP address each time.  If you still have trouble, please contact us directly, we'd be happy to help.  The advantage of putting the equipment on your network is that you don't need to give up your device/PC internet connectivity to interact with the mount.

Once you can interact with the GTOCP5 with serial, USB, or Ethernet, it will be easier to help you with the WiFi.


Regards,

Mike Hanson


Re: [ap-ug] Hanging 10 at Waikiki

John
 

Aloha Rolando and all,

  Goofy foot means your right foot is up front (ie towards the nose of the board).  Your left foot is in the back (towards the tail).  With
a little more of your weight placed on the back foot (at least on a short board, not sure about that when using a long board)

  Regular footed means just the opposite.  Your left foot is forward (closest to the nose of the board).  That is how I used to surf (and now snowboard).
Unfortunately, I'm in my 60s also, and surfing seems to be more of a challenge as I can't get up quick enough (plus there's no waves here in Nevada)!

  I don't think it really matters much which stance you use just as long as you feel comfortable in your stance.  Just don't drop in on the locals (when they're
already on the wave), otherwise you might get the 'stink eye' !!  :)  In either case I hope you got some good waves and I'm sure you found out surfing is a great workout!!

    John


Re: 130 EDF Starfire Field Flatteners

Karen Christen
 

Thank you to all who have expressed an interest in a Field Flattener for your 130EDF Starfire.  We’re in the process of ordering materials for this product.  I’ve been keeping track of your responses and will let you know when it’s listed on our website. 

 

Karen

AP

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ram
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 130 EDF Starfire Field Flatteners

 

I have a 67PF562 field flattener on my 130 EDF Starfire. I just read that this field flattener isn't ideal for this scope. 
I would definitely be interested in one that was optimized for this scope.
It would be nice to have a new one without the clunky Pentax 67 outer bayonet mount. 


--
Karen Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: 130 EDF Starfire Field Flatteners

Ram
 

I have a 67PF562 field flattener on my 130 EDF Starfire. I just read that this field flattener isn't ideal for this scope. 
I would definitely be interested in one that was optimized for this scope.
It would be nice to have a new one without the clunky Pentax 67 outer bayonet mount. 


Re: Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

michaeljhanson@...
 

David,

The GTOCP5 wifi password is a factory default that is specific to your unit.  See the following, page 17:
https://astro-physics.info/tech_support/mounts/cp5/cp5-manual.pdf

Regards,
Mike Hanson




Re: Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

 

The password in the welcome letter is only to access the download website to access the new version of GTOCP4, GTOCP5 and keypad when they are released. It is not used for connection to your GTOCP5.

 

Clear Skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics

11250 Forest Hills Road

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of davidcfinch9 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:14 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

 

When I try to connect my laptop to my GTOCP5 via WIFI, I try to connect to the GTOCP5_Net_85 network and put in the password that I received in my welcome letter I get a “Can’t connect to this network” message.

When I try to connect to the 169.254.0.85 website when using my home LAN, I also get a can’t connect message.

What am I doing wrong?

Regards,

David


Re: Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

michaeljhanson@...
 

Hi David,

When you connect the GTOCP5 to a network, your router assigns the IP address.  The factory default IP address will be active if you are not plugged into a network.  From the browser URL, just try the host name "GTOCP5_85", or "GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work try "http://GTOCP5_85"  or "http://GTOCP5-85".  If that doesn't work, open a command (DOS) window and ping to it, "ping GTOCP5_85" or "ping GTOCP5-85" and see if that will locate it.  If all else fails, there are a couple utilities available at https://astro-physics.info/index.htm?tech_support/tech_support.  You can use FindMounts (auto-discovery on the network), or you can run "WiFi Poll for GTOCP4 or GTOCP5 for Ethernet" to query for the IP address over serial.  If you use APCC, APCC also has auto-discovery.

Most DHCP servers in routers try to keep assigning the same IP address to the same equipment, so you should not need to discover the IP address each time.  If you still have trouble, please contact us directly, we'd be happy to help.  The advantage of putting the equipment on your network is that you don't need to give up your device/PC internet connectivity to interact with the mount.

Once you can interact with the GTOCP5 with serial, USB, or Ethernet, it will be easier to help you with the WiFi.

Regards,
Mike Hanson


Connecting to GTOCP5 via WIFI

davidcfinch9
 

When I try to connect my laptop to my GTOCP5 via WIFI, I try to connect to the GTOCP5_Net_85 network and put in the password that I received in my welcome letter I get a “Can’t connect to this network” message.

When I try to connect to the 169.254.0.85 website when using my home LAN, I also get a can’t connect message.

What am I doing wrong?

Regards,

David


Re: Virtual Port change in #APPC pro #appc

Cygnus Hunter
 

Ray,
Thank you for that.  Sorry for the delayed response as I was offline for a couple of days.  

In the future, if there ever does become a conflict with other equipment, with those low port numbers that apcc is currently using, then what would the best practice be to assign higher number virtual ports that would be less likely to conflict?  I guess that I’d like to know a path to follow if this happens, and it is on a perfect night at midnight, which is when Murphy usually visits my observatory. It could save a wasted night. Only so many each year as you well know...lol

thank you!

Todd


Re: 130 EDF Starfire Field Flatteners

WMarton@...
 

I would be interested in one as well.

Bill


Re: 130 EDF Starfire Field Flatteners

Max Mirot
 

I need one for my 130 F6 EDF.
Please add me to the list
Thanks

Max Mirot


Re: Mach2 Wifi problems #Mach2GTO #WiFi

ernie.mastroianni@...
 

Hi, 130FeetDeep,
It is safe to say that SkySafari 6 Pro and Plus work properly with the Mach2 and the CP5 (given my setup) but certain conditions can create WiFi drop outs. However, I found no fault with the CP5 WiFi. That was what I tried to explain with that very long winded-post.

Also, you CANNOT run the Mach2 with just SkySafari. The mount needs first needs to be initialized (or started, woken up, unparked) via APCC or the keypad. And you CANNOT park the Mach2 with SkySafari.

But once the mount is up and running, SkySafari works nicely. I used it last night at my remote dark-sky and had no WiFi issues or dropouts at all. I keep just one Wifi connection (my phone) to the mount. I turn off my laptop Wifi so can't connect and interfere. My previous problems popped up when my iPhone's lock-screen kicked in, which disconnects it from the mount. If another device (like a laptop) is also talking to the mount, SkySafari would not let my iPhone back in. I've concluded that this is most likely a SkySafari issue, and not a CP5 issue.

I did see some talk about USB cables interfering with the WiFi, but I could not replicate that issue. During my imaging session last night, two USB cables ran guide and imaging cameras. The cables were quite close the the WiFi antenna. I had absolutely no WiFi communication issues for my 4-hour session.

Ernie

 


Re: A couple of questions about Mach2 balancing and modeling #Absolute_Encoders #Mach2GTO

Marcelo Figueroa
 

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:45 PM, Roland Christen wrote:
1) I know that the encoders always know where the mount is pointed, even if the clutch knobs 
 are released by hand. But, does the mount need to be on for that, can/must I balance it while it is on?
 
2) After balancing, is it necessary to redo the modeling?
No need for having the mount on during balancing. No need to redo the model after balancing either.
 
Rolando
 
Well, that was quick :-)
 
Thank you


Re: A couple of questions about Mach2 balancing and modeling #Absolute_Encoders #Mach2GTO

Roland Christen
 


1) I know that the encoders always know where the mount is pointed, even if the clutch knobs 
 are released by hand. But, does the mount need to be on for that, can/must I balance it while it is on?
 
2) After balancing, is it necessary to redo the modeling?
No need for having the mount on during balancing. No need to redo the model after balancing either.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Marcelo Figueroa via groups.io <marfig1970@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Dec 9, 2020 11:43 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] A couple of questions about Mach2 balancing and modeling #Absolute_Encoders #Mach2GTO

Soon I will need to make some minor changes to my equipment (basically remove the guide scope and replace it with the Pegasus Pocket Powerbox Advance). Obviously I will need to rebalance the mount and I have a couple of doubts:
 
1) I know that the encoders always know where the mount is pointed, even if the clutch knobs 
 are released by hand. But, does the mount need to be on for that, can/must I balance it while it is on?
 
2) After balancing, is it necessary to redo the modeling?
 
Thank you,
 

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


A couple of questions about Mach2 balancing and modeling #Absolute_Encoders #Mach2GTO

Marcelo Figueroa
 

Soon I will need to make some minor changes to my equipment (basically remove the guide scope and replace it with the Pegasus Pocket Powerbox Advance). Obviously I will need to rebalance the mount and I have a couple of doubts:
 
1) I know that the encoders always know where the mount is pointed, even if the clutch knobs 
 are released by hand. But, does the mount need to be on for that, can/must I balance it while it is on?
 
2) After balancing, is it necessary to redo the modeling?
 
Thank you,
 


Re: Sky Safari - iphone - GTO

 

I’ll have to check with our tech staff. I’m not sure.

 

Clear Skies,

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics

11250 Forest Hills Road

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of wxman4@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 7:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Sky Safari - iphone - GTO

 

Mary, that is excellent news! Do you have any rough time table for when it will at least work correctly with the Mach2? Thank you for such a quick reply.


Re: Sky Safari - iphone - GTO

@130FeetDeep
 

Mary, that is excellent news! Do you have any rough time table for when it will at least work correctly with the Mach2? Thank you for such a quick reply.

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