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Re: Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging

George LaBelle
 

Why not lock the mirror and add an Optec or Starlight Instruments focuser on the back?
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George
Prineville, Oregon


Re: New Solvers for APPM?

George LaBelle
 

Excellent. ASTAP has become much more popular because of its speed and reliability.
--
George
Prineville, Oregon


Re: Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging

Bruce Donzanti
 

Thanks for your input, Gary.....appreciate the suggestion.  I will check it out.

Bruce

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 10:47 PM Gary Steffens via groups.io <gwsteffens=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bruce, another suggestion would be the Astro-Tech/TPO/GSO 14" RC OTA. I have the 16" version. It has excellent optics and the truss design is very stable and strong. The focuser that comes with it is only good for visual use so you would need to get a better one for imaging. I have the Feather Touch focuser which works great.
Yes, it isn't a Planewave and I can't speak to its advantages, but I'm very happy with my setup and I get great images. 
Cheers,
Gary


Re: Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging

Gary Steffens
 

Bruce, another suggestion would be the Astro-Tech/TPO/GSO 14" RC OTA. I have the 16" version. It has excellent optics and the truss design is very stable and strong. The focuser that comes with it is only good for visual use so you would need to get a better one for imaging. I have the Feather Touch focuser which works great.
Yes, it isn't a Planewave and I can't speak to its advantages, but I'm very happy with my setup and I get great images. 
Cheers,
Gary


Re: Capacity check on AP 1100

Astrobob
 

You’d need another Ford F150 for a counterweight…..

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Change Mount COM Port

Mike Dodd
 

On 12/6/2020 4:16 PM, dang.astro wrote:
Heya Mike,

Finally got a chance to try this. The first time I connected the solar
guider it wouldn't show up as any port and was throwing an error.
Unplugged and replugged back in and it came up as its own separate COM
port from the CP4. Not sure what was going on but it seems to be working
now.

Greatly appreciate your time and help!
Glad to hear it's working. Windows is picky about USB drivers. The fundamental rule of thumb is, install the driver software BEFORE plugging in the equipment. Maybe if finally figured out what driver to us for your solar guider.

--- Mike
http;//astronomy.mdodd.com


Re: Change Mount COM Port

dang.astro
 

Heya Mike,

Finally got a chance to try this. The first time I connected the solar guider it wouldn't show up as any port and was throwing an error. Unplugged and replugged back in and it came up as its own separate COM port from the CP4. Not sure what was going on but it seems to be working now. 

Greatly appreciate your time and help!
Dan


Mach2 Wifi problems #Mach2GTO #WiFi

ernie.mastroianni@...
 

Hello all,
I recently did some more extensive tests to isolate the Mach2 WiFi issues I've had and got some interesting results.

First, my field setup:
A PC with APCC Pro runs the mount.
My MacBook Pro runs my ZWO guide camera and my QHY imaging camera.
My iPhone SE connects to the mount after APCC Pro initializes it. The phone, using SkySafariPlus, operates and direct the mount. This was my standard field setup, backyard or dark sky site.

My problem:
The WiFi phone connection with the mount would repeatedly drop (due to auto-lock, I found out later). Reconnecting failed unless I'd power the mount off and on. I could not figure out why a power recycle was necessary.

The test in my basement home office and workshop (See the attached photo):
I set up the Mach2 powered by AC.
The PC, connected via ethernet to the CP5, was running APCC Pro. The WiFi was disabled.
My Macbook was running SkySafari Pro, with the WiFi also disabled.
My iPhone SE, also running Sky Safari, connected cleanly to the mount AFTER it was initialized by APCC Pro. The phone was set to NEVER auto-lock.
In this setup, I was able to control the mount with no dropouts at all. I ran the mount from 2 feet away. I went upstairs to a different room and the phone still ran the mount. I went out to my back yard, the mount still in the basement, the WiFi ran the mount perfectly. No dropouts.

Adding the laptops:
I connected my Macbook Pro to the mount via WiFi, and watched it track via SkySafari as I moved the mount with the phone. No problems, near or far. The phone maintained its connection to the mount, even with the Macbook connected. I could also see the mount's movement displayed in real time on the APCC program too. So three connections to the mount, no dropouts from WiFi, and clean data moving to all three in real time. 

Adding two cameras via cheap USB cords (see attached photo)
To see if USB data somehow affects the WiFi signal, I connected a ZWO ASI290 planetary camera and a QHY l68c large sensor camera to the laptop, and started both camera programs running image data to the laptop in steady, repeating loops. The iPhone remained connected to the Wifi, no matter where I went with in the house or outside. I could control the mount regardless of my proximity, even two floors up or 50 feet away outside. the WiFi ran the mount perfectly. No dropouts.

The problem returns:
I then disconnected my phone from the mount and the CP5 WiFi. When I tried to reconnect, SkySafari informed me that it could not make a wireless connection to the scope, even though the phone was once again linked to the CP5 WiFi.  See attached photo

Here was my field problem repeated. It seems that the CP5 WiFi can handle multiple connections, but the SkySafari program cannot reconnect when other traffic is present. Kind of like a no re-entry rule at a rock concert. After learning this, i tried another imaging session. Wifi on both laptops was disabled. The iPhone was the only device occupying the CP5 Wifi. I had no dropouts. I was also able to disconnect and reconnect at will. 

With the recent arrival of the keypad/hand controller, I can eliminate the PC laptop. During a backyard test a couple nights ago, the iPhone SkySafari worked seamlessly with the keypad.

Conclusion: My Mach2 Wifi issues seemed to be caused when multiple devices were sharing the Wifi, and when one exits, it somehow is prevented from reconnecting.  My initial perception of problem was not complete and I did not fully understand how the entire system was working and communicating. At this time, I don't see an inherent issue that I can definitively trace to the CP5 Wifi on my Mach2.

Ernie Mastroianni



Re: Possible to install the RAPAS + RAPM2 on the left side of the #Mach2GTO RA axis ? #Mach2GTO

KHursh
 

It looks like it would place the eyepiece upside down if you mounted on the left.


Possible to install the RAPAS + RAPM2 on the left side of the #Mach2GTO RA axis ? #Mach2GTO

Sébastien Doré
 

Hello everyone,

I was watching Tony's (aka Harley Davidson) latest and much useful videos about his new Mach2 (lucky guy, mine is scheduled for delivery in January) and one of them (ref. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-Ltoqabn8k) made me wonder if it was possible to install the RAPAS+RAPM2 on the left side of the RA axis with the same adapter or say a left-sided version of the RAPM2.

I would find it more practical and comfortable to use my right eye when polar aligning (me being right-handed as well). I therfore wouldn't have to rotate the scope 90 degrees prior to PA, saving a few seconds / minutes more while I setup (I'm mobile most of the time).

Anyway, I think it would be a nice additional feature to be able to choose which side suits you best if it isn't already possible...

CS!
Sébastien


Re: Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging

Bruce Donzanti
 

Thanks for the suggestion.  I'll check it out.



On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 2:10 PM Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:
The Planewave 12.5 is right up your alley then. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Donzanti <donza2735@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 10:56 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging
 
At least 2500mm

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:31 PM Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:
What focal length are you looking for? The 12.5 Planewave is likely something to look at. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Donzanti <donza2735@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 10:06 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging
 
I currently use a C11" EdgeHD with an 80mm Stellarvue APO triplet piggybacked onto it in my observatory.  The C11 sits on an AP1100 mount which is on an adjustable Pier Tech steel pier sitting on a cement pier which runs several feet underground up to the observatory.  So, the C11 is essentially 10 feet above the observatory floor.  However, I have grown weary of constant mirror shifting and flopping issues.  While I intend to keep it and fix the problem, I want to explore possible scope upgrades from the C11" EdgeHD despite it being very popular and producing great images.  My skies are Bortle 6 with average seeing.  I'd appreciate any suggestions, not going above $10k.


Re: Meridian management

KHursh
 

Thanks for chiming in Dale. This is exactly what I am looking for. I am in need of understanding 1.11 builds of NINA as I am still using 1.10. Getting the astrophotography capture software to interact with APCC is my holy grail.


Re: Another Mach2 video

thefamily90 Phillips
 

👍


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Jeff B <mnebula946@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 12:54:12 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Cc: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Another Mach2 video
 
Love it.  Great sounds.  

Thanks.

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 12:42 PM Harley Davidson <astrocnc@...> wrote:
I had a guy on my YouTube channel, Tim Morrill request a video of how
the motors sound on the Mach2. He was still waiting for his to be delivered.

I set it up in my garage to reduce all the sounds I get from living in
the country. Also, I'm not using a high end camera for my videos. It's a
small Nikon. The "slapping" sound while the motors were running is the
keypad cord hitting the tripod leg [I didn't catch it at the time,
oops]. The motors have a very nice hum to them.

Astro-Physics Mach2 mount - How the Motors Sound:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPG4b1onndk

tony







Re: Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging

Bill Long
 

I see $12,500. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Valente <bvalente@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 11:04 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging
 
Planewave cdk14 is about 10k right now

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 10:56 AM Bruce Donzanti <donza2735@...> wrote:
At least 2500mm

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:31 PM Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:
What focal length are you looking for? The 12.5 Planewave is likely something to look at. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Donzanti <donza2735@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 10:06 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging
 
I currently use a C11" EdgeHD with an 80mm Stellarvue APO triplet piggybacked onto it in my observatory.  The C11 sits on an AP1100 mount which is on an adjustable Pier Tech steel pier sitting on a cement pier which runs several feet underground up to the observatory.  So, the C11 is essentially 10 feet above the observatory floor.  However, I have grown weary of constant mirror shifting and flopping issues.  While I intend to keep it and fix the problem, I want to explore possible scope upgrades from the C11" EdgeHD despite it being very popular and producing great images.  My skies are Bortle 6 with average seeing.  I'd appreciate any suggestions, not going above $10k.

--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging

Bill Long
 

The Planewave 12.5 is right up your alley then. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Donzanti <donza2735@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 10:56 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging
 
At least 2500mm

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:31 PM Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:
What focal length are you looking for? The 12.5 Planewave is likely something to look at. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Donzanti <donza2735@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 10:06 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging
 
I currently use a C11" EdgeHD with an 80mm Stellarvue APO triplet piggybacked onto it in my observatory.  The C11 sits on an AP1100 mount which is on an adjustable Pier Tech steel pier sitting on a cement pier which runs several feet underground up to the observatory.  So, the C11 is essentially 10 feet above the observatory floor.  However, I have grown weary of constant mirror shifting and flopping issues.  While I intend to keep it and fix the problem, I want to explore possible scope upgrades from the C11" EdgeHD despite it being very popular and producing great images.  My skies are Bortle 6 with average seeing.  I'd appreciate any suggestions, not going above $10k.


Re: New Solvers for APPM?

Marcelo Figueroa
 

Does that mean that it will no longer be necessary to use an external program such as SGP to capture images for modeling? 
 
Not a problem for me, I use SGP with ASTAP as my imaging program and also with APPM without any problem so far. But it would be a good way to simplify things.


Re: APPM Plate Solving Alternatives (again)

Dale Ghent
 

On Dec 6, 2020, at 13:10, Xentex <michael@...> wrote:

That made me think, if the REST API is how APPM is doing plate solves through SG Pro, I don't actually need SG Pro. I can just create a REST wrapper for ASTAP that uses the same protocol (which SG Pro documents well enough).

Has anyone else ever looked down this path?

Going a step further, given that NINA is open source the thought occurred to me to cobble something together for NINA. That might be more trouble than it's worth since my understanding is I'd probably have no other reason to run APPM and NINA at the same time. But to the extent anyone else wanted to benefit from this approach, they wouldn't have to install a separate wrapper written by some random dude on the internet.
Hey, a NINA dev here :)

I've considered the same - just making a wrapper program that listens on the SGPro API server TCP port and speaks the commands needed to solve an image via ASTAP (or other solver). This plus ASCOM Camera in APPM itself would decouple APPM from requiring a large surrogate app like SGPro or TSX (which is what I've been using to build models).

Users of 10um mounts are in a similar situation, only their modeling program can call ASTAP directly, it does not talk to cameras in any way - it also relies on having SGPro available to it to operate a camera. One NINA dev has such a mount and he has implemented a subset of the SGPro API in NINA to service this purpose. I am in the process of adding the API endpoints that APPM needs (the solving parts) to it. But....

But with Ray's announcement here that direct ASTAP support will be in the next major release of APPM, that makes APPM a self-suffiicient app that doesn't rely on "heavy" external software to do any part of its imaging or solving, and we can now just have APPM and ASTAP installed, and that's it! Good news. Not sure if this means I'll finish my SGPro endpoint work or not, as the NINA devs are unanimous in that we would rather put such API energies into our own design.

/dale


Re: Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging

 

Planewave cdk14 is about 10k right now

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 10:56 AM Bruce Donzanti <donza2735@...> wrote:
At least 2500mm

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:31 PM Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:
What focal length are you looking for? The 12.5 Planewave is likely something to look at. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Donzanti <donza2735@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 10:06 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging
 
I currently use a C11" EdgeHD with an 80mm Stellarvue APO triplet piggybacked onto it in my observatory.  The C11 sits on an AP1100 mount which is on an adjustable Pier Tech steel pier sitting on a cement pier which runs several feet underground up to the observatory.  So, the C11 is essentially 10 feet above the observatory floor.  However, I have grown weary of constant mirror shifting and flopping issues.  While I intend to keep it and fix the problem, I want to explore possible scope upgrades from the C11" EdgeHD despite it being very popular and producing great images.  My skies are Bortle 6 with average seeing.  I'd appreciate any suggestions, not going above $10k.

--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: APPM Plate Solving Alternatives (again)

Xentex
 

Well, I see that 5 minutes after I posted this that Ray says ASTAP will be supported in the next version of APPM.  So I guess for all practical purposes my question is moot.

Although I do think it would be nice for ASCOM to eventually have a plate solving interface.


Re: Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging

Bruce Donzanti
 

At least 2500mm

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:31 PM Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:
What focal length are you looking for? The 12.5 Planewave is likely something to look at. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Donzanti <donza2735@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 10:06 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Upgrade Scope Suggestions for Imaging
 
I currently use a C11" EdgeHD with an 80mm Stellarvue APO triplet piggybacked onto it in my observatory.  The C11 sits on an AP1100 mount which is on an adjustable Pier Tech steel pier sitting on a cement pier which runs several feet underground up to the observatory.  So, the C11 is essentially 10 feet above the observatory floor.  However, I have grown weary of constant mirror shifting and flopping issues.  While I intend to keep it and fix the problem, I want to explore possible scope upgrades from the C11" EdgeHD despite it being very popular and producing great images.  My skies are Bortle 6 with average seeing.  I'd appreciate any suggestions, not going above $10k.

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