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Re: APPM Models

Lee Dodge
 

I am at a loss to understand the details of the pressure required for the APPM model, and how some folks are getting that from the local weather report.  The APPM model asks for "pressure" in mbar.  My local weather station reports barometric pressure in inches of mercury (Hg).  So, for today, the barometric pressure 30.52 in. Hg., and using a conversion factor of 33.8639 mbar/in. Hg, I would get an absolute pressure of 1033.5 mbar, which sounds reasonable for a nice clear day.  However, my observatory is at 8565 ft. above sea level, or 2611 m.  Using this barometric pressure at my altitude would be nonsense, as I compute the absolute pressure at my altitude and a temperature of -11 C (today's temp.) to be 725.3 mbar.  The difference between the barometric pressure and the actual absolute pressure at my location is that the barometric pressure is always converted to some sea level equivalent, and regardless of how high you go, the barometric pressure is always around 1013 mbar.  If the model is looking for barometric pressure, then it must be labeled barometric pressure rather than pressure, and if it is really looking for pressure, then how are folks getting that from the local weather report.  Which pressure is it looking for?  

Lee


Re: Mach2GTO 6" Eagle Adjustable Folding Pier #Mach2GTO

Roland Christen
 

If you use it for imaging, then no extension is needed. If you want to use it visually then you will want to raise it up with an extension piece.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Mundhir <Mundhir@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Nov 29, 2020 5:55 am
Subject: [ap-gto] Mach2GTO 6" Eagle Adjustable Folding Pier #Mach2GTO

Hello Everyone,

Anyone using the 6" Eagle adjustable folding pier? What scope do you have? and whether you have a  4" or 8" extension? 

I'm expecting my Mach2GTO to arrive soon next month. and I need to order the extension part if required.  I currently own C11 and Televue NP101is Telescopes. I also plan to purchase C14 Edge HD in near future.

Thanks & Clear Skies,
Mundhir

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Mach2GTO 6" Eagle Adjustable Folding Pier #Mach2GTO

Terri Zittritsch
 

I am using the Eagle pier, very happy with it.   I use an 8" extension as well.      I have numerous scopes I use with it, the heaviest being either a TEC140 or Edge 11" scope, not sure which is heavier.   I suspect the Edge.    I originally purchased an Avalon T-Pod, but found that a normal tripod with fixed leg spread doesn't allow the same kind of dynamics and stability that the Eagle provides.    The Eagle, with its adjustable leg spread, allows for a pier-like functionality when used with an extension or not.   I use a maximum spread before leveling and an 8" extension to keep height.   I find it very stable no matter the scope size I've used.   I've also done a dual setup with TEC140 plus Stowaway, and it balances nicely and very stable.     What I found with the T-Pod, with its fixed leg spread, is that with an extension to get good clearance I had to shorten the legs else the tripod was far too high for me.   When the legs are shorter, the footprint is proportionally smaller and less stable.    To get the stability on a fixed leg spread tripod I had to extend the legs to the level where it isn't practical to use an extension (I'm tall but  not that tall).   I could not find a level that I was happy at with the T-POD.   Now I use the TPOD with a 6" discmount for visual.    For A-P, you can't beat the Eagle.    The other thing I found much easier with the Eagle is leveling.    By loosening one leg at a time and pushing against that side of the pier, I could easily provide fine adjustment to the level and the single knob tightens easily and solidly.    


Mach2GTO 6" Eagle Adjustable Folding Pier #Mach2GTO

Mundhir
 

Hello Everyone,

Anyone using the 6" Eagle adjustable folding pier? What scope do you have? and whether you have a  4" or 8" extension? 

I'm expecting my Mach2GTO to arrive soon next month. and I need to order the extension part if required.  I currently own C11 and Televue NP101is Telescopes. I also plan to purchase C14 Edge HD in near future.

Thanks & Clear Skies,
Mundhir


Re: Storage box for the Mach2 mount

Andrea Lucchetti
 

I use a Maxcase 540.
It is a Peli like case produced in Italy, very high quality and right price.
I have changed the original foam with the same material used by AP for shipping, very easy to cut.
I keep the dovetail and bar separated to limit the weight.
Andrea 
Don’t have a good picture for now, sorry


Re: APPM Models

KHursh
 

That is an interesting piece of kit. I would need to think a bit about where I would put it. 

On the other hand, I was successful in getting my run going with SGP as I have a license for that. I had trouble at first with my plate solves because I (stupidly) hadn't done an initial recal in SGP prior to running the model. I stared blankly at the screen of "failed" for two days before it dawned on me.


Re: APPM Models

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Dale,

I had an old license for TSX so I installed it to get APPM access
to a plate solver. After some problems with ActiveX errors being burped up by APPM when trying to solve an image
taken through my ASCOM-connected QHY600, it turned out I needed to run TSX as admin first so that its AcitveX
components could get registered, then APPM was able to talk to it. I expected it to just use TXS's API server but I
guess that isn't the case here.
The reason for using ActiveX is that it allows the same interface code in APPM to be used for CCDSoft V5 and TSX Camera Add-On. :-)

As for why TSX does not register its ActiveX components when SkyX is installed, you will have to ask Software Bisque about that.

-Ray Gralak
Author of PEMPro
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Ghent
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 7:46 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APPM Models


On Nov 28, 2020, at 20:30, KHursh via groups.io <khursh=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Thanks Marcelo,

I had the API key from years ago, but I set it wrong in APCC. I had to choose ASCOM.OCH.ObservingConditions
as the driver so I could select my PowerBox for temp and humidity, but use OpenWeather for the Pressure.
OpenWeather had bad data for the temperature. It is about 14C here. OWM said it was 26!! Now it is all set!
Teamwork!

For what it's worth, Evan@Pegasus just announced a more comprehensive sensor that plugs into the existing
PowerBox ecosystem:

https://pegasusastro.com/uranus-meteo-sensor/

Available Q1/2021. Pretty much everything you need for local info.

I upgrade to APPC Pro this week and ran my first model tonight using OCH+OWM for air pressure and temperature
and humidity from my UPBv2. It went swimmingly. I had an old license for TSX so I installed it to get APPM access
to a plate solver. After some problems with ActiveX errors being burped up by APPM when trying to solve an image
taken through my ASCOM-connected QHY600, it turned out I needed to run TSX as admin first so that its AcitveX
components could get registered, then APPM was able to talk to it. I expected it to just use TXS's API server but I
guess that isn't the case here.

/dale


Re: APPM Models

Dale Ghent
 

On Nov 28, 2020, at 20:30, KHursh via groups.io <khursh=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Thanks Marcelo,

I had the API key from years ago, but I set it wrong in APCC. I had to choose ASCOM.OCH.ObservingConditions as the driver so I could select my PowerBox for temp and humidity, but use OpenWeather for the Pressure. OpenWeather had bad data for the temperature. It is about 14C here. OWM said it was 26!! Now it is all set! Teamwork!
For what it's worth, Evan@Pegasus just announced a more comprehensive sensor that plugs into the existing PowerBox ecosystem:

https://pegasusastro.com/uranus-meteo-sensor/

Available Q1/2021. Pretty much everything you need for local info.

I upgrade to APPC Pro this week and ran my first model tonight using OCH+OWM for air pressure and temperature and humidity from my UPBv2. It went swimmingly. I had an old license for TSX so I installed it to get APPM access to a plate solver. After some problems with ActiveX errors being burped up by APPM when trying to solve an image taken through my ASCOM-connected QHY600, it turned out I needed to run TSX as admin first so that its AcitveX components could get registered, then APPM was able to talk to it. I expected it to just use TXS's API server but I guess that isn't the case here.

/dale


Re: APPM Models

KHursh
 

Thanks Marcelo,

I had the API key from years ago, but I set it wrong in APCC. I had to choose ASCOM.OCH.ObservingConditions as the driver so I could select my PowerBox for temp and humidity, but use OpenWeather for the Pressure. OpenWeather had bad data for the temperature. It is about 14C here. OWM said it was 26!! Now it is all set! Teamwork!

Kevin


Re: Storage box for the Mach2 mount

Wes Atchison
 

HI Harley,

I use the Ridgid tool box set to store  my AP900.  Really works great, nice sturdy rugged box set.  

FYI, Home Depot is running a sale of the 3 piece set till Christmas.

Wes
WA5TKU


Re: APPM Models

Marcelo Figueroa
 

Even though I have the Pegasus Powerbox Advance, I haven't installed it yet (waiting for the appropriate cables to arrive) so the details are missing, but look at the image 1 of the link, the pressure is selected in the Obeserving Condition HUB Configuration. Also note that it may take several hours for your OpenWeatherMap account to be activated.
 
At the moment this is what I do:
 
To get all the data via OpenWeatherMap (no device required, but internet connection):
 
1) In APCC Settings > Environmental Settings
2) Source > ASCOMObservingConditions
3) Select Driver > OpenWeatherMap.ObservingConditions
4) Properties :
 
- API Key: Enter the API Key number that was sent to you
- API URL: https://api.openweathermap.org/data/2.5/weather

5) Select Site: Enter your city name and select it from the list (be sure to select the correct city)
- Ok
 
 
 


Re: Storage box for the Mach2 mount

Jim Hawn
 

tony,
Thanks for posting the helpful video, especially the detailed Rubbermaid product information to facilitate ordering them.  Out of curiosity, what do you recommend for storing the GTOCP5 unit and cables?  How about the counterweight bar and the counterweights themselves?  Lastly, do you have a recommended storage solution for the RAPAS?  Thanks.
-  Jim


Re: APPM Models

KHursh
 
Edited

Thanks Marcelo,

I have OpenWeatherMap API key stored in my ASCOM settings, but the pressure still appears editable in APCC pro, so I do. Not sure if I am missing something somewhere.


Storage box for the Mach2 mount

Harley Davidson
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAkJfixIkEc

I am using a Ridgid tool box to protect my Mach2 mount.

tony


Re: APPM Models

Marcelo Figueroa
 


You don't need to enter the pressure manually, follow these steps and you can get it (along with temperature and humidity as well) from the internet:

https://ap-gto.groups.io/g/main/message/73588?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,openweathermap,20,2,0,77256891


Re: Do NOT use ASCOM Platform v. 6.5 with APCC Pro #APCC #ASCOM_V2_Driver

Michael 'Mikey' Mangieri
 

I have been using v6.5SP1 (RC1) with no issues thus far although I am still using a 197 point APPM model from a couple of weeks ago which was created with 6.4 installed.

On Nov 28, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com> wrote:

v6.5SP1 (RC1)


Re: APPM Models

KHursh
 

PS. I am using a Pegasus Astro Powerbox which has real-time temp and humidity monitoring. I enter the atmospheric pressure manually.


Re: Do NOT use ASCOM Platform v. 6.5 with APCC Pro #APCC #ASCOM_V2_Driver

Ray Gralak
 

Ray had noted that we should use v6.5SP1 but Karen’s email references v6.4SP1.

Should we not use any version of 6.5 at this time?
Some clarification:

1) ASCOM Platform v6.4SP1 is okay to still use.

2) ASCOM Platform v6.5 had a serious bug in the Transform class that would cause APPM to produce bad models.

3) You can now *optionally* upgrade to ASCOM Platform v6.5SP1 because it has been released.

However, I just noticed when hovering over the link for v6.5SP1 on the ASCOM web site that it is RC1 (release candidate 1). It is not the official release as I had thought, but it is the default choice now on the web site. That explains why I didn't see an announcement.

So, it is okay to stay with v6.4SP1. If you want to upgrade to v6.5SP1 (RC1), that is okay too. Here is the link:

https://www.ascom-standards.org (click the "Download" button on the right side of the web page)

I am sorry this has been so confusing. The ASCOM naming convention is not helping.

-Ray Gralak
Author of PEMPro
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Beyer
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 9:23 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Do NOT use ASCOM Platform v. 6.5 with APCC Pro #APCC #ASCOM_V2_Driver

Ray had noted that we should use v6.5SP1 but Karen’s email references v6.4SP1.

Should we not use any version of 6.5 at this time?


On Nov 27, 2020, at 1:51 PM, Karen Christen <karen@astro-physics.com> wrote:





I’ve also un-pinned this thread from the top of the Messages list on the ap-gto Groups.io group. That was
probably misleading, as well.

Karen

AP



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marj Christen
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Do NOT use ASCOM Platform v. 6.5 with APCC Pro #APCC #ASCOM_V2_Driver



The website is now updated. Thank you for this discussion.



Clear Skies,



Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 7:59 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Do NOT use ASCOM Platform v. 6.5 with APCC Pro #APCC #ASCOM_V2_Driver



Below is what is currently shown on the AP website (my goto when determining what version of ASCOM
Platform to use):




ASCOM V2 Driver & Platform


ASCOM V2 Driver current version <https://www.gralak.com/apdriver/>

ASCOM V6.4SP1 Platform <https://github.com/ASCOMInitiative/ASCOMPlatform/releases/tag/Build_2695>
for use with the V2 Driver and APCC - Thanks to the ASCOM Initiative <http://ascom-standards.org/index.htm> .
Do not use V6.5 at this time.




--
Karen Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Do NOT use ASCOM Platform v. 6.5 with APCC Pro #APCC #ASCOM_V2_Driver

Joseph Beyer
 

Ray had noted that we should use v6.5SP1 but Karen’s email references v6.4SP1. 

Should we not use any version of 6.5 at this time?

On Nov 27, 2020, at 1:51 PM, Karen Christen <karen@...> wrote:



I’ve also un-pinned this thread from the top of the Messages list on the ap-gto Groups.io group.  That was probably misleading, as well.

Karen

AP

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marj Christen
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Do NOT use ASCOM Platform v. 6.5 with APCC Pro #APCC #ASCOM_V2_Driver

 

The website is now updated. Thank you for this discussion.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 7:59 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Do NOT use ASCOM Platform v. 6.5 with APCC Pro #APCC #ASCOM_V2_Driver

 

Below is what is currently shown on the AP website (my goto when determining what version of ASCOM Platform to use):

ASCOM V2 Driver & Platform

ASCOM V2 Driver current version 

ASCOM V6.4SP1 Platform  for use with the V2 Driver and APCC - Thanks to the ASCOM Initiative.  Do not use V6.5 at this time. 


--
Karen Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: AP1100 GTO with AE installed today - but newbie question #Absolute_Encoders

Roland Christen
 

Please contact George on Monday and he will help you install the encoder personality into your CP4.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Shailesh Trivedi <strivedi@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Nov 28, 2020 1:18 am
Subject: [ap-gto] AP1100 GTO with AE installed today - but newbie question #Absolute_Encoders #Absolute_Encoders

Today I installed the Renishaw AEs on my AP1100GTO.

I am a newbie, what do I need to do to initialize them and turn them on?

Shailesh

--
Roland Christen
Astro-Physics

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