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Re: Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images

Roland Christen
 

Probably not.

Rolando



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Would it be possible for Quad TCC to work with Planewave 12.5 CDK?

Peter 


Re: Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images

Peter Nagy
 

Would it be possible for Quad TCC to work with Planewave 12.5 CDK?

Peter 


At-GTO Group can't shrink APV2 window after expamd in Maxim DL

Joseph Bianco
 

Using Maxim DL i connect to the telescope and when the APV2 Driver v5.30.10 appears I can press the EXPAND >>>>> button and after the expand I can not shrink back to the single window.  Am I missing some feature that should be turned on?

Joseph


Re: Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images

Bill Long
 

That is the same scope I have. I bought it for these reasons:
  1. Planewave doesn't sell a 10" model, and I set up each night and need something lighter than 48 lbs.
  2. The focal length of the Planewave is a bit too long for my skies and the smaller pixel CMOS cameras. My plate solved focal length is 1720mm on the AGO.
  3. The focal ratio of the scope is the same as my AP130 GTX with its field flattener, which keeps the image scale the same when I bin the camera on the AGO 2x2.
  4. While I have only used it on my AP1100, I suspect the Mach 1 will be able to handle it. Although that would be more of a nice to have... 😉 
You do need to get a focuser, which the options from AGO directly are the Optec Leo, Optec Gemini, and Optec TCF3-i. I had Moonlite make a flange and an AP2.7" adapter for the NiteCrawler which works great on the AGO and I still have plenty of backfocus available. I use a 2" AP2.7 extension on top of my existing imaging accessories, so there is plenty of room to add more stuff if I wanted to. 

As I mentioned, I have the AP27TVPH, since its a good reducer for my RCOS scope as well. I have yet to test it on the AGO iDK but based on what you shared I think it will work great. While I would prob have to crop on my big full frame camera, my 16200 and 8300 would work great I would imagine. I am in the middle of a project now (PacMan Nebula) on the AGO so no changes until that is over. I went with the AP2.7 interface on the NiteCrawler specifically because the extensions are easy to come by, the reducer is 2.7" threaded, and I have the adapters I need to convert all of my imaging equipment to use AP2.7 rather easily.



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Tony,

Have you considered AG Optical iDK scope? The focal ratio is 6.7 and no reducer or flattener necessary. Might give you less headaches than Planewave. Cost more than Planewave plus you need to buy a 3rd party focuser. Precise Parts don't even list AG Optical for building adapters which I find it strange. The back focus is pretty long which is good.

http://agoptical.com/10-imaging-dall-kirkham/

Send pictures of your new setup.

Peter 


Re: Pillars of M16

CurtisC
 

Thank you, Karen.  I noticed there was an "accept all cookies" button at the bottom of the page.  I think I'm set up now to receive notifications about the Mach2.  Roland has pretty much convinced me that it's a major upgrade from my Mach1.


Re: Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images

Peter Nagy
 

Tony,

Have you considered AG Optical iDK scope? The focal ratio is 6.7 and no reducer or flattener necessary. Might give you less headaches than Planewave. Cost more than Planewave plus you need to buy a 3rd party focuser. Precise Parts don't even list AG Optical for building adapters which I find it strange. The back focus is pretty long which is good.

http://agoptical.com/10-imaging-dall-kirkham/

Send pictures of your new setup.

Peter 


Re: Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images

Kent Kirkley
 

Unguided imaging?
As a virtually life long imager unguided imaging is a commendable goal.
Someday, when photon collection becomes short it might be possible,
but there are so many factors involved such as instrument flexure and atmospheric
disturbance that makes guiding a reality.





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Looks pretty solid to me.


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Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images
 
Found this Planewave 12.5 CDK using AP27TVPH:

http://www.compubuild.com/astro/planewave/AP27TVPH-PW.htm

Peter 


Re: Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images

Peter Nagy
 

Bill,

You are correct about the ridiculously short back focus of Planewave reducer:

https://www.planewave.eu/fileadmin/Daten/downloads/Reducer-Manual-20140102.pdf

Peter 


Re: Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images

Bill Long
 

Looks pretty solid to me.


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Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images
 
Found this Planewave 12.5 CDK using AP27TVPH:

http://www.compubuild.com/astro/planewave/AP27TVPH-PW.htm

Peter 


Re: Pillars of M16

Karen Christen
 

Hello Curtis (?),

 

You may have to search for “how to allow cookies” for the web browser you’re using.  For example, I tend to use Chrome, so here’s a link to the instructions I found for turning cookies off/on for Chrome:  https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/61416?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en

 

This is what a Notify Me button looks like.  It’s located on the product main page, on the right below the price and options, above the information tabs.

Karen

AP

 

 

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[Edited Message Follows]

Hmm.  I don't know where to go from here.  Thanks.  What does a "notify me" button look like?


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Re: Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images

Peter Nagy
 

Found this Planewave 12.5 CDK using AP27TVPH:

http://www.compubuild.com/astro/planewave/AP27TVPH-PW.htm

Peter 


Re: Pillars of M16

CurtisC
 
Edited

Hmm.  I don't know where to go from here.  Thanks.  What does a "notify me" button look like?


Re: Pillars of M16

Karen Christen
 

You have to allow cookies in order to see the Notify Me button.  This is because in order to notify you, we must collect some contact information, namely, your email address.  We cannot do that if you don’t allow cookies.  I hope this is helpful.

Karen C

AP

 

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Rolando: The Mach2GTO page says "Click the Notify Me button below if you are interested in this mount."  

What "Notify Me" button?  


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Karen Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Pillars of M16

CurtisC
 

Rolando: The Mach2GTO page says "Click the Notify Me button below if you are interested in this mount."  

What "Notify Me" button?  


Re: Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images

Bill Long
 

Doesn't have much backfocus spacing available. Something in the ballpark of 50mm. On my 10" I plan to test out the AP27TVPH once I have some expendable sky time...


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Bill, any elaboration on “useless” vs extraneous, vs optically ineffective, vs just not needed for a fine scope? Just curious as this scope is a distant dream scope for me, Tom Fischer

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The reducer is useless. Dont buy it. 










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Congrats on ordering Planewave scope. Be prepared to spend additional $2K or more on accessories like electronic focuser, reducer, Precise Parts adapters, etc.





It's only money. :-)





Peter 















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Re: Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images

DFisch
 

Bill, any elaboration on “useless” vs extraneous, vs optically ineffective, vs just not needed for a fine scope? Just curious as this scope is a distant dream scope for me, Tom Fischer

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 12:36 Bill Long <bill@...> wrote:










The reducer is useless. Dont buy it. 










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Congrats on ordering Planewave scope. Be prepared to spend additional $2K or more on accessories like electronic focuser, reducer, Precise Parts adapters, etc.





It's only money. :-)





Peter 















--
TJF MOBILE


Re: Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images

Bill Long
 

The reducer is useless. Dont buy it. 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Peter Nagy <topboxman@...>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 8:59 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images
 
Congrats on ordering Planewave scope. Be prepared to spend additional $2K or more on accessories like electronic focuser, reducer, Precise Parts adapters, etc.

It's only money. :-)

Peter 


Re: Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images

Peter Nagy
 

Congrats on ordering Planewave scope. Be prepared to spend additional $2K or more on accessories like electronic focuser, reducer, Precise Parts adapters, etc.

It's only money. :-)

Peter 


Re: Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images

Dominique Durand
 
Edited

Hi Tony,
With a C11HD obviously it's a little less simple. I am also in this perspective to be able to use my C11HD on my Mach2 with exposures of more than 1 'and everything depends on the possibility of making a good model.After trial and error, I ended up first improving my MES with Sharpcap, then I noticed in the models made that the orthogonality in DEC was really not good. Either Flip Mirror, or something else like tilt on the camera. As I have a motorized PO FT I have adjusted the MAP as well as possible with the mirror adjustment then blocked without forcing it and also modified the camera fixation. Yesterday evening the 29 point model then the 92 model, despite clouds coming to disturb the resolution of 10 points on the west, indicated better measurements in terms of orthogonality. I then made a test on a star low on the horizon (Near Jupiter) and near the meridian. After 5 'it was still positioned on the center of the crosshair (200%) on the image provided on Sharpcap. Then 6 'exposures on NGC6888 turned out to be quite successful.There are still areas for improvement to get a smoother tracking correction, but I think I can say that there is a possibility of modeling with a C11 and doing poses greater than 3 '.
The link with my post on the subject.
https://ap-gto.groups.io/g/main/topic/mach2_orthogonality/76392947?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,76392947


Re: Drift Alignment To Help With Unguided Images

Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
 

Sorry, should have typed the extra. It is a C11 Edge HD that I am replacing J

 

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I have gone ahead and ordered a Planewave 12.5” and will sell the C11.

Did you consider the EdgeHD 1100?

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