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Re: AP1200 and TPoint
Yves Laroche
Hi Ray,
the weather here in Quebec is bad since 10 days so I can't do some test myself. Hope this will change tomorrow. Yves Ray Gralak wrote: Hi Yves,-- Yves Laroche, modérateur de la liste ASTRODIX. Les listes ASTRO et ASTRODIX travaillent en concertation Voir: http://www.globetrotter.net/astroccd/astro-l.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: AP1200 and TPoint
Ray Gralak <ray@...>
Hi Yves,
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No, I would always leave the camera attached. It was so long ago since I last tried using TPoint that it could have been a number of different things that caused the problem. When I finally get some decent weather here I will try it out again. The last two mornings have been clear (but cloudy the night before) so I'm hoping the weather will improve soon. -Ray
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From: Yves Laroche [mailto:yves.laroche@...] Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:48 PM To: ap-gto@... Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: AP1200 and TPoint Hi Ray! You said you have always to do a short mapping run. Did you disconnect the ccd camera from telescope at the end of session? Thank you, Yves Ray Gralak wrote: Hi Pat, To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gto Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: AP1200 and TPoint
Yves Laroche
Hi Ray!
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You said you have always to do a short mapping run. Did you disconnect the ccd camera from telescope at the end of session? Thank you, Yves Ray Gralak wrote:
Hi Pat,
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Re: Daylight Saving Question
Yves Laroche
Pat,
I forgot to mention than your GMT offset (DST) is displayed when you are in Telescope | Options | Initialize but a higher value will be send if you press Set GMT. If you have some problem as an alternative you can try to power on your mount with the keypad (DST set) , open TheSky and do initialisation process with only Set Time. In the last case, the keypad will send time, latitude, longitude and GMT offset to the servo controller but with TheSky, the Set Time will overwrite the time set by the keypad. BTW, would you check how many digit are displayed for latitude and longitude in Telescope | Options | Initialize and tell me? Thank you, Yves Hope this will help, Yves Yves Laroche wrote: Pat,-- Yves Laroche, modérateur de la liste ASTRODIX. Les listes ASTRO et ASTRODIX travaillent en concertation Voir: http://www.globetrotter.net/astroccd/astro-l.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Daylight Saving Question
Yves Laroche
Pat,
in your area, the time zone should be +06 (PST) so try +05 for DST. Type ":SG +05#" without quotes. This command is case sensitive and there is a space between :SG and +05# Hope this will help, Yves Patrick J. Madden wrote: Hello, Yves! I do not live in the Eastern Time Zone, but in the Central Time Zone. What should I type? Thanks!Pat-- Yves Laroche, modérateur de la liste ASTRODIX. Les listes ASTRO et ASTRODIX travaillent en concertation Voir: http://www.globetrotter.net/astroccd/astro-l.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Daylight Saving Question
Patrick J. Madden <unvat001@...>
Hello, Yves! I do not live in the Eastern Time Zone, but in the Central Time Zone. What should I type? Thanks!Pat
Yves Laroche <yves.laroche@...> wrote:Hi Pat, If you are using TheSky 5.00.100, there is a bug in the initialisation process with Set GMT. The Set GMT will set your mount to +5 (EST) instead of +4 (DST). In TkeSky terminal box (Telescope | Options | Terminal) try typing ":SG +04#" without quotes and check the telescope pointing. Hope this help, Yves Larioche Patrick J. Madden wrote: I have had nothing but grief since we changed to daylight saving time. Will someone give me a list of things I need to do, or change when the time changes, in addition to changing the clock on my computer? Last night I finally realized that my dome program, Digital Dome Works, has a DST setting that needs to be checked. It is behaving much better now. I also have the DST setting fixed on the keypad, which I normally do not use for startup anyway. My 1200 mount has not been flipping over at the meridian, whether used with the keypad or with TheSky. Something wants to put the telescope about 15 degrees too far "under" the polar axis before flipping it over to the east side. Also, I thought I had finally licked the TPoint question. Now I am way off on startup. And it occurs to be that "way off" might be 15 degrees, which is suspiciously like another DST button somewhere that needs pushed! Thanks for any help. Pat Madden To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gto Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
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Re: Pulse guider question (OT)
Mike J. Shade <mshade@...>
At 06:48 AM 4/26/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Hi Mike,OK, thanks, thought of doing yet another mapping run of 100 stars while it is 60 with 15% humidity tonight was a bit much....Yes, it was (last night) one of those Southern Arizona nights. -----Original Message-----Mike J. Shade: mshade@... Sonoita Hills Observatory, Sonoita Arizona See work done at the observatory: http://c3po.cochise.cc.az.us/astro under the "photographs and images" panel on the left of the screen. "I like the dark, it's cheap." E. B. Srooge
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Re: Daylight Saving Question
Ray Gralak <ray@...>
Hi Pat,
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If we EVER have any cloudless and rainless nights here again in San Jose I would actually be able to test this but I think you just need to adjust the Time Zone offset in the keypad and with PulseGuider. -Ray
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From: Patrick J. Madden [mailto:unvat001@...] Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 6:07 AM To: ap-gto@... Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Daylight Saving Question I have had nothing but grief since we changed to daylight saving time. Will someone give me a list of things I need to do, or change when the time changes, in addition to changing the clock on my computer? Last night I finally realized that my dome program, Digital Dome Works, has a DST setting that needs to be checked. It is behaving much better now. I also have the DST setting fixed on the keypad, which I normally do not use for startup anyway. My 1200 mount has not been flipping over at the meridian, whether used with the keypad or with TheSky. Something wants to put the telescope about 15 degrees too far "under" the polar axis before flipping it over to the east side. Also, I thought I had finally licked the TPoint question. Now I am way off on startup. And it occurs to be that "way off" might be 15 degrees, which is suspiciously like another DST button somewhere that needs pushed! Thanks for any help. Pat Madden --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gto Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: Daylight Saving Question
Yves Laroche
try typing ":SG +04#" without quotes and check the telescope pointing.
Yves Laroche wrote: Hi Pat,-- Yves Laroche, modérateur de la liste ASTRODIX. Les listes ASTRO et ASTRODIX travaillent en concertation Voir: http://www.globetrotter.net/astroccd/astro-l.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Pulse guider question (OT)
Ray Gralak <ray@...>
Hi Mike,
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You can send the time to the mount with Pulseguider but it won't do it automatically. It should not make any difference that it was still running after the mount was parked. -Ray
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From: Mike J. Shade [mailto:mshade@...] Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 1:43 AM To: ap-gto@... Subject: [ap-gto] Pulse guider question (OT) This is primarily for Ray, does your program work the same as the 1200 handpad in that it sends a time signal to the mount? Forgot to disconnect Pulse Guider PRIOR to parking with The Sky so mount ran for maybe 20 seconds after being parked...make any difference? I would think that when I send an accurate time Signal to the mount via The Sky it shouldn't make any difference but wonder if a mapping run is in my future tomorrow night... Thanks, Mike J. Shade: mshade@... Sonoita Hills Observatory, Sonoita Arizona See work done at the observatory: http://c3po.cochise.cc.az.us/astro under the "photographs and images" panel on the left of the screen. "I like the dark, it's cheap." E. B. Srooge To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gto Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: Daylight Saving Question
Yves Laroche
Hi Pat,
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If you are using TheSky 5.00.100, there is a bug in the initialisation process with Set GMT. The Set GMT will set your mount to +5 (EST) instead of +4 (DST). In TkeSky terminal box (Telescope | Options | Terminal) try typing ":SG +04#" without quotes and check the telescope pointing. Hope this help, Yves Larioche Patrick J. Madden wrote:
I have had nothing but grief since we changed to daylight saving time. Will someone give me a list of things I need to do, or change when the time changes, in addition to changing the clock on my computer? Last night I finally realized that my dome program, Digital Dome Works, has a DST setting that needs to be checked. It is behaving much better now. I also have the DST setting fixed on the keypad, which I normally do not use for startup anyway. My 1200 mount has not been flipping over at the meridian, whether used with the keypad or with TheSky. Something wants to put the telescope about 15 degrees too far "under" the polar axis before flipping it over to the east side. Also, I thought I had finally licked the TPoint question. Now I am way off on startup. And it occurs to be that "way off" might be 15 degrees, which is suspiciously like another DST button somewhere that needs pushed! Thanks for any help. Pat Madden
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Re: Daylight Saving Question
Patrick J. Madden <unvat001@...>
I have had nothing but grief since we changed to daylight saving time. Will someone give me a list of things I need to do, or change when the time changes, in addition to changing the clock on my computer? Last night I finally realized that my dome program, Digital Dome Works, has a DST setting that needs to be checked. It is behaving much better now. I also have the DST setting fixed on the keypad, which I normally do not use for startup anyway. My 1200 mount has not been flipping over at the meridian, whether used with the keypad or with TheSky. Something wants to put the telescope about 15 degrees too far "under" the polar axis before flipping it over to the east side. Also, I thought I had finally licked the TPoint question. Now I am way off on startup. And it occurs to be that "way off" might be 15 degrees, which is suspiciously like another DST button somewhere that needs pushed! Thanks for any help. Pat Madden
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Re: Daylight Saving Question
Bill Gardner <gardner.w@...>
I had similar behavior from my 900 after the time change for a couple of nights. Ray's Pulse Guider fixed the problem nicely I found. I set the keypad to the proper time zone and daylight savings settings over again, set the laptop time from the internet atomic clocks and then used Pulse Guider to reset the mount's time. Since then I have not had any strange 15 degree problems. Sorry can't help with tpoint though.
Bill At 06:07 AM 26/04/03 -0700, you wrote: I have had nothing but grief since we changed to daylight saving time. Will someone give me a list of things I need to do, or change when the time changes, in addition to changing the clock on my computer? Last night I finally realized that my dome program, Digital Dome Works, has a DST setting that needs to be checked. It is behaving much better now. I also have the DST setting fixed on the keypad, which I normally do not use for startup anyway. My 1200 mount has not been flipping over at the meridian, whether used with the keypad or with TheSky. Something wants to put the telescope about 15 degrees too far "under" the polar axis before flipping it over to the east side. Also, I thought I had finally licked the TPoint question. Now I am way off on startup. And it occurs to be that "way off" might be 15 degrees, which is suspiciously like another DST button somewhere that needs pushed! Thanks for any help. Pat Madden http://members.rogers.com/gardner.w/
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Pulse guider question (OT)
Mike J. Shade <mshade@...>
This is primarily for Ray, does your program work the same as the 1200 handpad in that it sends a time signal to the mount? Forgot to disconnect Pulse Guider PRIOR to parking with The Sky so mount ran for maybe 20 seconds after being parked...make any difference? I would think that when I send an accurate time Signal to the mount via The Sky it shouldn't make any difference but wonder if a mapping run is in my future tomorrow night...
Thanks, Mike J. Shade: mshade@... Sonoita Hills Observatory, Sonoita Arizona See work done at the observatory: http://c3po.cochise.cc.az.us/astro under the "photographs and images" panel on the left of the screen. "I like the dark, it's cheap." E. B. Srooge
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Re: Image: M97
Steve Reilly <sreilly@...>
Nice Owl Bill. I have always been very pleased with the tracking
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abilities of these mounts. I've seen the mount bent over backwards and still guiding like a champ. Steve
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From: Bill Gardner [mailto:gardner.w@...] Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 12:54 PM To: ap-gto@... Subject: [ap-gto] Image: M97 My taget last night was the Owl Nebula (M97). After a few false starts with computer problems I got the image going. The tracking was a little more finicky than previous images I have been working on, but then that is a result of the increase in focal length. I used some of the tips I have read here, with setting up the mount to image through the meridan in one large sweep. It always amazes me how stable the mount is with the scope in the strangest positions. The image can be found at: http://members.rogers.com/gardner.w/html/m97-april-23-2003.htm The image was captured, reduced, aligned and combined in CCDSoft v5. Processing was then done in PhotoShop 7. Other information regarding image and equipment can be found below the image. Bill Gardner To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gto Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Image: M97
Bill Gardner <gardner.w@...>
My taget last night was the Owl Nebula (M97). After a few false
starts with computer problems I got the image going. The tracking was a little more finicky than previous images I have been working on, but then that is a result of the increase in focal length. I used some of the tips I have read here, with setting up the mount to image through the meridan in one large sweep. It always amazes me how stable the mount is with the scope in the strangest positions. The image can be found at: http://members.rogers.com/gardner.w/html/m97-april-23-2003.htm The image was captured, reduced, aligned and combined in CCDSoft v5. Processing was then done in PhotoShop 7. Other information regarding image and equipment can be found below the image. Bill Gardner
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Re: Protocol command
Yves Laroche
Roland,
some protocol commands can be send as a STRING of characters. I tried sending ":V#" with Procomm (DOS) in Chat mode but this mode required than a string command (including ENTER) must be send via the COM port. The ":V#' must be send in terminal mode to work with Procomm With TheSky terminal box, the protocol command ":V#" will not work because this function has to send a STRING of characters instead of one caracter at the time but some command will work. Within TheSky terminal box, if I send a command like ":RC#" or "RC0#" or "RC1#" or "RC2#" or "RC3# or others changing states command" , those commands will work but not ":V#". It seems than all INPUT or CHANGING STATES MODE command can be send as STRING of characters so working with TheSky. The GETTING INFOS command (":V#", ":GG#", "Gg#", "Gt#", "GL#", ":GL#", "GR#", "GD#", "GA#", "GZ#") seem to work only like a GET_KEY protocol not as GET_STRING so they don't work with TheSky. It is possible to have a better understanding on how those commands must be send and why ? Roland, if you prefer, you can send me private e-mail if you don't what to disturb others in the list with my technical request. Thank you, Yves chris1011@... wrote: In a message dated 4/23/2003 1:47:32 PM Central Daylight Time,-- Yves Laroche, modérateur de la liste ASTRODIX. Les listes ASTRO et ASTRODIX travaillent en concertation Voir: http://www.globetrotter.net/astroccd/astro-l.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Protocol command
Yves Laroche
Hi Roland,
I checked the ":V#" command with Windows Hyper Terminal and it worked. The only thing I found strange was than this command don't have to be sent as a string caracters + ENTER. This command must be send by only three keystrokes : V # and the controller sent immediately the response D#. If an ENTER key was pressed after the :V# no response will be send by the controller and you must pressed # alone to clear the buffer before sending any other command. It's why this command doesn't woked in TheSky terminal box because it has not to be send as a string. Other command can be send via a string + ENTER. Would you explain this difference? Concerning my initialisation problem of my 1200GTO mount with TheSky, I found some bugs and people at Software Bisque are working on it. Thank you, Yves Laroche chris1011@... wrote: In a message dated 4/17/2003 1:59:21 PM Central Daylight Time,-- Yves Laroche, modérateur de la liste ASTRODIX. Les listes ASTRO et ASTRODIX travaillent en concertation Voir: http://www.globetrotter.net/astroccd/astro-l.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Protocol command
Roland Christen
In a message dated 4/23/2003 3:06:43 PM Central Daylight Time,
yves.laroche@... writes: I'm sorry, I don't know how The Sky works internally, so there is no way for me to know how to answer your questions. It may simply be that The Sky cannot display the results of your queery to the mount. Roland Christen
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Re: Protocol command
Roland Christen
In a message dated 4/23/2003 1:47:32 PM Central Daylight Time,
yves.laroche@... writes: I checked the ":V#" command with Windows Hyper Terminal and it worked. Yes, that is correct. No "enter" required with Hyperterminal. Any non- prototcol characters that are sent to the buffer will not be acted on and will stay in the buffer until they are cleared with a # sign. I'm not sure I understand this paragraph. Roland Christen
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